Just to add a little additional supporting information:- The performance you hear in the video is given by an amateur youth theatre company based here in the UK. All of the actors on stage are in or around their late teens. The orchestra comprises a mix of music students, semi-professional musicians and professional musicians. You will notice that the 'signature' organ, drums and electric guitar are missing from the ensemble. This is a requirement of the license and not the choice of the company. These instruments are covered using click tracks which are provided by the licence owner. My guess is that this is intended to ensure consistency in reproduction of the famous and instantly recognisable theme tune......or it might be simply to avoid booking an extra couple of musicians who would otherwise be sat doing nothing for the rest of the show. Either way - it's an amazing show and these kids did an amazing job every night for what turned out to be a sell-out run.
I always thought the "organ" was a synth and almost never real except maybe when it was at Royal Albert. It sure never seemed real as it sounded Korg and such. But it may also explain why when they perform in a large place with a really nice organ, it is usually not used except maybe as a prop. I think the ultimate Phantom performance some day will be at Atlantic City Boardwalk Hall in a few years when Midmer-Losh is finally finished with its decades long restoration. (Disclaimer: Scientific obs ahead) 武汉-利伯-N1H1-SARS-COV-2 had not became known at this time in 2017. But at Harvard, Dr. Charles Lieber had already started getting $50,000 per month from nation of China and they also provided a Captain Zheng of People's Army plus Lt. Ye who ferried biologicals between Wuhan and Boston. DOJ arrested Zheng and Lieber and charged them with felonies for their scheme. www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related Lt. Ye of People's Army got away, making a final run back to China with a box of biologicals. www.fbi.gov/wanted/counterintelligence/yanqing-ye Ye is on the top 10 FBI most wanted. In just a couple years of this production, we would have 武汉-利伯-N1H1-SARS-COV-2 and nothing like this would ever be produced again like it going forward.
@@ngck You can seen the conductor give the (very obvious) cue to the keyboard player on the right when title song starts. She then pushes the click-track or sample. I suspect it's uploaded in her keyboard because I don't see anything else there. What's also very obvious is that nobody else is playing their instrument at that particular moment.
Mad respect for these people. They sit in a cramped place for a long while, making music, with no break until intermission. Look how close all those instruments are on eachother. I would spontaniously get claustrophobic.
It's really fun and different every time you do it. I did one pit where we had Screens as the conductor was in the pit and we were in another room for Hello, Dolly! and then we did Cabaret and the pit for that is ON that state so we had to dress up and it was really really interesting what we do and I enjoy it so much. I've had people come up after and say the enjoy the music more then the show sometimes and it really means a lot :)
For an amateur youth production this performance is amazing. Given a few more years, the minor pitch issues that pop up will be obsolete, and those singers will have a bright future ahead of them in future professional productions. As a brass musician, the pit sounded superb with a good balance between all the instruments. Can't blame them for reading and looking at their phones, as long as they hit their entrances and it's not a distraction to other players around them. Nice job everyone.
@@thatwgigeek Reminds me of the orchestra over here when my choir has a rehearsal and the orchestra's on stage. Checking emails, reading a magazine.... and then: on time. Right on time.
I work professionally in theatre and opening ceremonies and I’ve never a heard an amateur orchestra sound this good along with the two leads. Christine’s soprano voice is absolutely brilliant and rivals characters who have played that role around the world. She just needs to work on her lower range. Phantom is also very good!
You mean the flat and wavering notes he was hitting? He had good moments, but... Nah. He was better than the Christine who was all over the place and could not figure out how to navigate her vibrato in any way throwing her off pitch constantly. It seems like she was constantly fighting her voice rather than just letting it out.
😂 As much as I would love that to be true.... There’s actually a large TV screen hung directly above me that allows the conductor to see the stage. Anyone in the orchestra looking back towards me is actually keeping an eye on the show. Does nothing for my ego, I’ll admit.
Yeah, you can tell these singers are trained and have accomplished a lot, but this show is JUST a hard one I guess; for them to do perfectly.. or it's hell week and they're tired lol
I've never played in a pit but I can see it has a few upsides over a traditional orchestral performance, which I've done countless times over the years. You don't have to worry about attire nearly as much, you can use your phone during rests and you can bring drinks with you That said it looks like it is often pretty cramped and the lighting doesn't seem to be too good either.
Yeah. It really boils down to the type of set up the theater has. Some/most are in front below the floors (that smog machine is awful). This is more amateur so looks like they’re backstage which has limited space, hence looking cramped. Attire depends on conductors. Some, like this isn’t concerned about folks’ outfits. Some require concert dress the first night. Some require black only. The stand light is sufficient. Phones, not so much and are distracting but a book, magazine, newspaper, crossword is fine. Having played the violin book far too many times to count, I get more satisfaction than a regular orchestra. Highly advise folks play at least once in a pit.
If you are still answering questions, may I ask you what that *Velcro* (I think) sound was at 11:46 ? and thanks for the video it shows how much work has to be put into a performance like this
@@davedrums4fun WOW! I didn't know Phantom was released for amateur productions. And if at all, I never though it would happen in the UK with the West End production never ending.
I had my best shorts on!! :) For this show, the orchestra is positioned in the theatre wings and not visible to the public at any time resulting in no dress code.
If you don’t mind me asking, which person plays the organ part of the phantom of the opera? I see there are multiple pianos, so I assume one of you plays that part, but I can’t tell.
TheZombieWolf94 Hi! It’s on a track. The licensing company provide official click tracks for some key elements of the score and it’s a condition of the license that they’re used. It’s to ensure consistency of the main theme - especially since the professional show is as popular as ever. It only happens a couple of times during the entire show, mind you. Cheers.
@@davedrums4fun that is just so sad. I've heard that before. So the entire synthesizer, guitar, bass and drums are not even sequenced but a whole pre-recorded track. That is kind of pathetic (and not directed at you)
The pre-recorded track is there mainly to cover the noises made by the stage mechanics powering the boat prop the Phantom and Christine are traveling in..Since it's the only "rock" song in the show,it wouldn't be feasible to have Guitar players,a Bass player and a Drummer in the pit for just one song...Though honesty given the advances in show technology since the 80s when this show first came out,you'd think the backing track would no be necessary 🤷@@roberthollander4522
I thought that the E above top C at the end of POTO was a prerecord as well, I’m sure I read that in a copy of the score/lib that I came across many years ago... Is that one optional? Please tell me the overture is played live!?
The last note (E6) is usually recorded so that the actress playing Christine doesn't damage her voice (it gets quite tiring for the voice to perform that at least 8 time a week). I believe that they can decide to sing it at there own risk but they usually don't. They might decide to sing it if it's a special occasion (opening night, closing night, ect). If I am not mistaken this should be the Phantom of the Opera UK Tour meaning they have several "closing nights" (when they finish in one location and move to the next) and I saw a comment saying that this was their final show in Derby so maybe the Christine wanted to do something special for her last show there. Regarding the overture (when the chandelier rises from the stage): it, unfortunately, is pre-recorded. The orchestra merges into it at a certain point (like half way through). Apparently it is pre-recorded because of: "The Overture is taped because of technical aspects with the chandelier.". I don't really know what the technical aspects would be but there you go, hope I helped :)
@@harrygreatorex2180 Thanks! Do you know what production this is from? Possibly an older UK Tour? (I refer to the UK Tour because it's what the description of the video says). Thanks
@@harrygreatorex2180 Was this you by chance? Surprisingly though I may be a bastard and therefore making enemies in places so I'll never work there again - probably - I really do miss the place now I've grown up.
Аналитический центр при Правительстве РФ I'll take that as a compliment! :) The orchestra is live as you see it with the audio taken from the front of house mix.
I've just pinned a post with a little more info as it's a common question, but in short - no. The drums and guitar are on a click track as dictated by the license owner.
P.A.D normally, materials (ie Music) are rented and must be returned with no markings. (Erasure marks are fine). Instead of waiting until after the final performance to erase an entire set of music, they do it as time allows while performing during the last show.
OP wrote in their pinned comment that the license states they can't use the 'signature' organ, drums or electric guitar so those bits do have to be prerecorded yeh
Hey! It’s normal practice to lightly mark the score with changes or highlights or reminders etc. All marks must be removed prior to returning the music to the hiring company when the show run finishes. This video is taken from the final performance so many of the orchestra are taking the opportunity to clean the score as they go rather than leave it until the end. 👍
Where does the cymbal crash at 03:32 and 03:39 come from? The percussionist is playing the timpani and does not hit the cymbals, yet there are two crashes and I can't see another percussionist. Is it from one of the keyboard players?
Yes. There are various bits of percussion written into the keys pad. If you look closely, you can see the keyboard closest to the percussion playing the clash cymbals. In most cases it makes sense due to the percussion part already being busy, but there are a couple of instances where that wasn’t the case which is a little odd. I can only imagine there was some logic to it at the point at which it was orchestrated.
Katie Hough Hi Katie. The synths, guitar and drum kit are on a track. It’s a condition of the license that the official tracks are used to ensure consistency for the title song. It’s also the only time those specific instruments feature in the show so it makes sense practically.
Thanks! That's very interesting! I had always imagined the organ synth would just be a patch for one of the keys - I guess it's so unrelenting it doesn't matter that it's not conducted!
Yes, the main theme and some other small parts are pre-recorded to ensure consistency. Not sure if that’s in the description as the other guy so helpfully mentioned, but the creator said that in a few comments
everyone does that. it gets really boring sitting through 5+ practices, 6-10 hours a day, where most of the time is spent with the director just telling people what to do on the stage. eventually, people memorize the cues, so there is little chance of actually missing the start of a song to texting or playing games on a phone.
Really Useful should have never made the rights for this show available for high schools and amdram groups. The show is too good to be done half ass. This is a fine musical performance but there’s no way they would have had $50,000 to pump into costumes and staging to do it justice.
It's a performance to a full house. The sound is taken directly from the mixing desk and the orchestra is positioned in the rear of the theatre wings, so quite a distance from the audience. As a result there is almost no spill into the mics.
You're right. I was wincing the whole time. Christine's high note at 15:10 was more than a bit under too, enough so that I wondered if she was comping by singing a step low. I saw Dave Shipley's response to one of the other commenters and learned that these were teens. Not bad for teens. I guess we could take into consideration that this was closing night and their voices were probably wore slap out after some nights of singing this. Most teens don't have the training to care for their voices for singing this score days on end. I know I didn't when I was a teen, and I was pretty doggone good back in the day.
Does anyone happen to know if this is an amateur or a professional production? The orchestra is rather good! - But the singing personnel... Well, I just hope they are amateurs. Otherwise they wouldn't justify the expensive entrance fees for a professional production. I hate to say it, but especially the actress playing Christine is certainly not up to professional standards. Her final high E at the end of the title song! My own shrieking at that sound could easily have been as asthmatic as hers! For amateur standards the singing would be fine but not for a professional performance!
Carsten Lorentz Thanks for the question. It might have been better to wait for the answer (or read the existing comments) before passing judgement though. This is a youth theatre performance. Everyone on stage is under 18 and they’re all incredible. The orchestra is a mixture of music students, semi-pros and pros.
WOW!!!! Intonation problems GALOR! From the singers to the pit. OMG! It's really so bad it's unlistenable! Every member of the pit should have tuned beforehand with their own individual tuners. Professionals are expected to play IN TUNE. I would rather hear a mistake than hear a score played out of tune. And for us woodwind players who have cold horns...get plastic reeds, for one thing, and then find your own solutions to tune your various horns accordingly. Tune them COLD! Know how to adjust DURING play and always USE YOUR EARS!
Keith Dunn-Fernandez Hope you feel better now. I’m sure this amateur youth theatre group will benefit massively from your constructive, kindly spoken feedback.
Just to add a little additional supporting information:-
The performance you hear in the video is given by an amateur youth theatre company based here in the UK. All of the actors on stage are in or around their late teens.
The orchestra comprises a mix of music students, semi-professional musicians and professional musicians.
You will notice that the 'signature' organ, drums and electric guitar are missing from the ensemble. This is a requirement of the license and not the choice of the company. These instruments are covered using click tracks which are provided by the licence owner. My guess is that this is intended to ensure consistency in reproduction of the famous and instantly recognisable theme tune......or it might be simply to avoid booking an extra couple of musicians who would otherwise be sat doing nothing for the rest of the show.
Either way - it's an amazing show and these kids did an amazing job every night for what turned out to be a sell-out run.
I came here to make the observation about the sampled pieces. Your explanation makes perfect sense.
I always thought the "organ" was a synth and almost never real except maybe when it was at Royal Albert. It sure never seemed real as it sounded Korg and such. But it may also explain why when they perform in a large place with a really nice organ, it is usually not used except maybe as a prop. I think the ultimate Phantom performance some day will be at Atlantic City Boardwalk Hall in a few years when Midmer-Losh is finally finished with its decades long restoration. (Disclaimer: Scientific obs ahead) 武汉-利伯-N1H1-SARS-COV-2 had not became known at this time in 2017. But at Harvard, Dr. Charles Lieber had already started getting $50,000 per month from nation of China and they also provided a Captain Zheng of People's Army plus Lt. Ye who ferried biologicals between Wuhan and Boston. DOJ arrested Zheng and Lieber and charged them with felonies for their scheme. www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related Lt. Ye of People's Army got away, making a final run back to China with a box of biologicals. www.fbi.gov/wanted/counterintelligence/yanqing-ye Ye is on the top 10 FBI most wanted. In just a couple years of this production, we would have 武汉-利伯-N1H1-SARS-COV-2 and nothing like this would ever be produced again like it going forward.
Ah, I was wondering who is playing the famous organ + bass intro of Phantom of the Opera!
@@ngck You can seen the conductor give the (very obvious) cue to the keyboard player on the right when title song starts. She then pushes the click-track or sample. I suspect it's uploaded in her keyboard because I don't see anything else there. What's also very obvious is that nobody else is playing their instrument at that particular moment.
Thanks, I was also wondering what the logic behind the choices of when to use tracks or live musicians.
Mad respect for these people. They sit in a cramped place for a long while, making music, with no break until intermission. Look how close all those instruments are on eachother. I would spontaniously get claustrophobic.
This is a very big pit. Normally a musical pit is extremly small. :D
It's really fun and different every time you do it. I did one pit where we had Screens as the conductor was in the pit and we were in another room for Hello, Dolly! and then we did Cabaret and the pit for that is ON that state so we had to dress up and it was really really interesting what we do and I enjoy it so much. I've had people come up after and say the enjoy the music more then the show sometimes and it really means a lot :)
This is not that small a pit - although it does appear the bassist doesn't have a double bass in there!
This must be a finale performance as many of the players are erasing markings while not playing. Good use of time.
And the conductor is pulling off post-it notes.
It’s sad to think abt 🥺
For an amateur youth production this performance is amazing. Given a few more years, the minor pitch issues that pop up will be obsolete, and those singers will have a bright future ahead of them in future professional productions. As a brass musician, the pit sounded superb with a good balance between all the instruments. Can't blame them for reading and looking at their phones, as long as they hit their entrances and it's not a distraction to other players around them. Nice job everyone.
Apparently the reading or looking at their phones is a thing even in the pro buisness for brass players…
This is in no way an amateur production. Duh!!
I come here after TwoSetViolin telling us about what musician do when they are in the pit. Is anyone as same as me? :)
Axzelvonze Herzaroychelx ya me
no im here for band at home
same. not a musician so I searched for this because I got genuinely curious when twoset did that vid
Same
I know I’m a little late, but SAMEEEE
Oop, gotta play now *sets down book* *stops texting* *wakes up*
aight done playing *picks up book* *goes back to phone* *leans back for a nap*
@@thatwgigeek Reminds me of the orchestra over here when my choir has a rehearsal and the orchestra's on stage. Checking emails, reading a magazine.... and then: on time. Right on time.
Kudos to this production for attempting Christine’s high note live! They don’t even do that live on broadway!
wait really?
@@777arc2 Yes. The entire thing is prerecorded. Some Christines still opt to sing it live but to preserve their voices there's always a backing track
Who was playing The Phantom? He sounds amazing!
I work professionally in theatre and opening ceremonies and I’ve never a heard an amateur orchestra sound this good along with the two leads. Christine’s soprano voice is absolutely brilliant and rivals characters who have played that role around the world. She just needs to work on her lower range. Phantom is also very good!
let's take a minute for the phantom's voice😍
Yea, he was good but Christine was a bit.....shall we say "pitchy".
You mean the flat and wavering notes he was hitting? He had good moments, but... Nah. He was better than the Christine who was all over the place and could not figure out how to navigate her vibrato in any way throwing her off pitch constantly. It seems like she was constantly fighting her voice rather than just letting it out.
The harpist and the percussionist have a thing going on, it appears....
😂 As much as I would love that to be true....
There’s actually a large TV screen hung directly above me that allows the conductor to see the stage. Anyone in the orchestra looking back towards me is actually keeping an eye on the show. Does nothing for my ego, I’ll admit.
@@davedrums4fun Oh, that was you playing the drums? Thank you for sharing.
I'm really glad I'm not the only one who thought that as well. As a percussionist myself I was thinking "atta kid!" 😂
@@trentonboston8994 yup..same here lol
This is beautiful I’d pay to watch the pit live if possible
I was just thinking the same. Failing that, is there a full recording of the pit cam?
I have to say, this is pretty impressive for an amateur production (no offense intended). Well done!
Agreed totally !!!
Absolutely
Amazing! But the Christine treble note at the end of Phantom... damn girl😖
That shriek oh gosh
Yeah, you can tell these singers are trained and have accomplished a lot, but this show is JUST a hard one I guess; for them to do perfectly.. or it's hell week and they're tired lol
they are teenagers to be fair
They don't even do that note live in the West End, fair play to her for having a go
Absolutely amazing - very one, musicians and cast alike are just superb. You would not hear better on the professional stage. Bravo
But can you fit it one more keyboard?
12:19 top left guy in white shirt 🤣
With four keyboards visible it took a while for me to see who was playing at the start. Wow
i only see 3 😭
@@yuhwhut1460 Either you missed the one in front of the percussionist, or the one in the corner behind keyboard 2
yeah same i couldn’t tell for a while
That looks really cramped but lots of fun! Thanks for sharing! :)
Sounds fab! Where is the guitar located?
Its on record, as the poster spoke of below
magnificent!
Wow! Who’s the phantom here his amazing
I've never played in a pit but I can see it has a few upsides over a traditional orchestral performance, which I've done countless times over the years. You don't have to worry about attire nearly as much, you can use your phone during rests and you can bring drinks with you That said it looks like it is often pretty cramped and the lighting doesn't seem to be too good either.
Yeah. It really boils down to the type of set up the theater has. Some/most are in front below the floors (that smog machine is awful). This is more amateur so looks like they’re backstage which has limited space, hence looking cramped. Attire depends on conductors. Some, like this isn’t concerned about folks’ outfits. Some require concert dress the first night. Some require black only. The stand light is sufficient. Phones, not so much and are distracting but a book, magazine, newspaper, crossword is fine.
Having played the violin book far too many times to count, I get more satisfaction than a regular orchestra. Highly advise folks play at least once in a pit.
THE PHANTOM omggg
This is great! Do you have the Overture?
If you are still answering questions, may I ask you what that *Velcro* (I think) sound was at 11:46 ?
and thanks for the video it shows how much work has to be put into a performance like this
I believe it was a cape being removed by the phantom. Nice close proximity to the mic! 😂
This from London/New York or the US Tour?
most likely the US Tour. London and Broadway's orchestra pits aren't as cramped as this is.
Very generous comments.
This is actually an amateur youth production in the UK. The cast you can hear are all late teens and superb with it.
@@davedrums4fun WOW! I didn't know Phantom was released for amateur productions. And if at all, I never though it would happen in the UK with the West End production never ending.
@@justinm2697 Still they did an amazing job.
@@justinm2697 There are a few amateur productions here on TH-cam! Actually got me into Phantom!
I doubt this is a Broadway performance because even the orchestra is usually very well dressed at those performances
derby, uk says so in the description
I had my best shorts on!! :) For this show, the orchestra is positioned in the theatre wings and not visible to the public at any time resulting in no dress code.
Dave Shipley 😂
Oh, my favourite musical...
How cool to see a different perspective on the music. Thx for posting!
Do you happen to have a live performance of the title song without the vocals?
Davira Kuy I may
@@harrygreatorex2180 Would you be able to send it to me?
If you don’t mind me asking, which person plays the organ part of the phantom of the opera? I see there are multiple pianos, so I assume one of you plays that part, but I can’t tell.
TheZombieWolf94 Hi! It’s on a track. The licensing company provide official click tracks for some key elements of the score and it’s a condition of the license that they’re used. It’s to ensure consistency of the main theme - especially since the professional show is as popular as ever. It only happens a couple of times during the entire show, mind you. Cheers.
@@davedrums4fun that is just so sad. I've heard that before. So the entire synthesizer, guitar, bass and drums are not even sequenced but a whole pre-recorded track. That is kind of pathetic (and not directed at you)
The pre-recorded track is there mainly to cover the noises made by the stage mechanics powering the boat prop the Phantom and Christine are traveling in..Since it's the only "rock" song in the show,it wouldn't be feasible to have Guitar players,a Bass player and a Drummer in the pit for just one song...Though honesty given the advances in show technology since the 80s when this show first came out,you'd think the backing track would no be necessary 🤷@@roberthollander4522
HI! can i use this video to make a cover?
Greetings! fantastic job!
Hi Diego. Happy for you to use it. Please link to this original on anything you post! Many thanks.
@@davedrums4fun for sure, thnx!
Massive props to the orchestra! But can anyone tell me the name of the lady playing Christine?
That's probably a bit awkward.
They make a very good sound, the singers are good for amateurs too,
Fantastic!!!!
12:15 I love that part so much with the Timpani
Just realised you can see the actors coming off stage on the left. Wait are they?
Sounds great! What production is this from?
The title. Phanthom of the opera
@@yourlocalcoward8128 i think he means what specific production of phantom
I saw this production!! Please tell me it was recorded, I’d LOVE to see it again!
I thought that the E above top C at the end of POTO was a prerecord as well, I’m sure I read that in a copy of the score/lib that I came across many years ago... Is that one optional?
Please tell me the overture is played live!?
Everything is played live, im quite sure
The last note (E6) is usually recorded so that the actress playing Christine doesn't damage her voice (it gets quite tiring for the voice to perform that at least 8 time a week). I believe that they can decide to sing it at there own risk but they usually don't. They might decide to sing it if it's a special occasion (opening night, closing night, ect). If I am not mistaken this should be the Phantom of the Opera UK Tour meaning they have several "closing nights" (when they finish in one location and move to the next) and I saw a comment saying that this was their final show in Derby so maybe the Christine wanted to do something special for her last show there.
Regarding the overture (when the chandelier rises from the stage): it, unfortunately, is pre-recorded. The orchestra merges into it at a certain point (like half way through). Apparently it is pre-recorded because of: "The Overture is taped because of technical aspects with the chandelier.". I don't really know what the technical aspects would be but there you go, hope I helped :)
I can confirm that none of these vocals were pre recorded and this was most definately not the UK tour that has just started!
@@harrygreatorex2180 Thanks! Do you know what production this is from? Possibly an older UK Tour? (I refer to the UK Tour because it's what the description of the video says). Thanks
@@federicoperi6806 It is an amateur youth production in Derby UK that I had the pleasure of sound designing.
God I miss being at Derby Theatre.
haha! Words i thought you'd never say!
@@harrygreatorex2180 Was this you by chance?
Surprisingly though I may be a bastard and therefore making enemies in places so I'll never work there again - probably - I really do miss the place now I've grown up.
@@danclarkson3468 haha yeah man. I'm missing it too. Can't wait to get stuck into a show.
@@harrygreatorex2180 I no longer remember what a theatre is
This was at Derby? Was this what use to be the Derby Playhouse in the Eagle Market?
Excellent 👏👏👏
Fantastic point of view! So interesting for musical theatre lovers!
Virtual orchestra in keycomp using, i think
Аналитический центр при Правительстве РФ
I'll take that as a compliment! :)
The orchestra is live as you see it with the audio taken from the front of house mix.
Is there a drum kit in it
I've just pinned a post with a little more info as it's a common question, but in short - no. The drums and guitar are on a click track as dictated by the license owner.
Is that a original production?
My lifelong dream
I would not have known this was an amateur production if I hadn't read the comments
I recognize that furious erasing. Last performance.
what do you mean
P.A.D normally, materials (ie Music) are rented and must be returned with no markings. (Erasure marks are fine). Instead of waiting until after the final performance to erase an entire set of music, they do it as time allows while performing during the last show.
@@celinedionfan ah makes sense thank you
I have one word for this.... FLAWLESS!!!!!!!
Search for “pit” because of Twoset. Respect...
Who are the singers?
Artie Skurdandiri Hi. They are a youth theatre company. The singers you hear are in and around their late teens.
@@davedrums4fun whoaa that's insane
the part you are looking for is at 10:57
too bad you couldnt upload the entire show ...... that was pretty awesome
Is the organ pre-recorded? I can't see anyone playing it.
OP wrote in their pinned comment that the license states they can't use the 'signature' organ, drums or electric guitar so those bits do have to be prerecorded yeh
@@kjeike thanks!
I notice a lot of the musicians seem to erase marks on their music. Can someone tell me why or what they're doing?
Hey! It’s normal practice to lightly mark the score with changes or highlights or reminders etc. All marks must be removed prior to returning the music to the hiring company when the show run finishes. This video is taken from the final performance so many of the orchestra are taking the opportunity to clean the score as they go rather than leave it until the end. 👍
@@davedrums4fun Oh, very interesting! Thank you for replying!
Where does the cymbal crash at 03:32 and 03:39 come from? The percussionist is playing the timpani and does not hit the cymbals, yet there are two crashes and I can't see another percussionist. Is it from one of the keyboard players?
Yes. There are various bits of percussion written into the keys pad. If you look closely, you can see the keyboard closest to the percussion playing the clash cymbals. In most cases it makes sense due to the percussion part already being busy, but there are a couple of instances where that wasn’t the case which is a little odd. I can only imagine there was some logic to it at the point at which it was orchestrated.
@@davedrums4fun Thank you for the explanation :) Makes a lot of sense now!
15:16-- did the note get missed?
more crowded than pooldeck on a cruiseship... How is it possible to play music in such conditions?
Lol I love how at the beginning of Think of Me, that trumpet player on the far right is just surfing social media.
In the intro to the title song, I don't see any instruments actually playing, are they somewhere else or are certain parts prerecorded?
Katie Hough Hi Katie. The synths, guitar and drum kit are on a track. It’s a condition of the license that the official tracks are used to ensure consistency for the title song. It’s also the only time those specific instruments feature in the show so it makes sense practically.
Thanks! That's very interesting! I had always imagined the organ synth would just be a patch for one of the keys - I guess it's so unrelenting it doesn't matter that it's not conducted!
didn't realise there were 3 keys players on this show!
what kind of keyboards is down there
0:52 are they supposed to play like that? or just out of pitch..?
Yeah, that space checks out
OMG this Is a musical dream the ochestra Is perfect.
there patches notes of phantom of the opera
Youth theatre group? Huh? Holy crap.
Is some of the music for the song “Phantom of the Opera” pre-recorded? I can't see who’s playing the organ sound
try reading the description
@@martinbenson5423am I missing something? Cause I don't see anything that would answer my question in the description.
Yes, the main theme and some other small parts are pre-recorded to ensure consistency.
Not sure if that’s in the description as the other guy so helpfully mentioned, but the creator said that in a few comments
Would love to sit in the pit and just watch the musicians play this
As a trumpet player we are considered egotistical and seeing the 2nd trumpet on his phone smh.
Why didn't they add a Hammond B3
15:08 OOooFf
Sad they should be seen as well
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Poor conductor, they're waving their arms for hours.
You think that is rough try playing a trumpet for 2 hours the first time your upper lip gets red on top like you got a little punch on the lip
Raoul soundin pretty rough tbh
8:15
That trumpeter texting before the title song, very professional
everyone does that. it gets really boring sitting through 5+ practices, 6-10 hours a day, where most of the time is spent with the director just telling people what to do on the stage. eventually, people memorize the cues, so there is little chance of actually missing the start of a song to texting or playing games on a phone.
Yeah, there's no issue with texting - just don't miss a cue! I play in a heap if shows and I'm always reading a book when I'm not playing.
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10:58
Really Useful should have never made the rights for this show available for high schools and amdram groups. The show is too good to be done half ass. This is a fine musical performance but there’s no way they would have had $50,000 to pump into costumes and staging to do it justice.
Is this a dress rehearsal? Didn’t hear a clap, a cough, nothing.
And as a clarinetist, I would be farting like an old lady
It's a performance to a full house. The sound is taken directly from the mixing desk and the orchestra is positioned in the rear of the theatre wings, so quite a distance from the audience. As a result there is almost no spill into the mics.
Dave Shipley interesting.
In actual fact - if you listen closely around 3:40 you can hear the audience spill into the onstage mics just before they are faded out. 👍
Man that tenor has a beautiful tone, but man... he really likes to sit under the pitch lol
You're right. I was wincing the whole time. Christine's high note at 15:10 was more than a bit under too, enough so that I wondered if she was comping by singing a step low. I saw Dave Shipley's response to one of the other commenters and learned that these were teens. Not bad for teens. I guess we could take into consideration that this was closing night and their voices were probably wore slap out after some nights of singing this. Most teens don't have the training to care for their voices for singing this score days on end. I know I didn't when I was a teen, and I was pretty doggone good back in the day.
lmao someone is scrolling through his phone
12:43 trumpet player, picking his nose lol
wtf this is very bad conditions for the instruments! nooo :(
How is this bad conditions?
Where the hell is Hadley Fraser and Ramin Karimloo when you need them? #ijs
Whre is the Drummer? xD
Great recording and orchestra, a shame its such a poor cast.
Does anyone happen to know if this is an amateur or a professional production?
The orchestra is rather good! - But the singing personnel... Well, I just hope they are amateurs. Otherwise they wouldn't justify the expensive entrance fees for a professional production. I hate to say it, but especially the actress playing Christine is certainly not up to professional standards. Her final high E at the end of the title song! My own shrieking at that sound could easily have been as asthmatic as hers!
For amateur standards the singing would be fine but not for a professional performance!
Carsten Lorentz Thanks for the question. It might have been better to wait for the answer (or read the existing comments) before passing judgement though. This is a youth theatre performance. Everyone on stage is under 18 and they’re all incredible.
The orchestra is a mixture of music students, semi-pros and pros.
What’s the youth theatre called? They’re amazing for late teens
You’re a dickhead lol
WOW!!!! Intonation problems GALOR! From the singers to the pit. OMG! It's really so bad it's unlistenable! Every member of the pit should have tuned beforehand with their own individual tuners. Professionals are expected to play IN TUNE. I would rather hear a mistake than hear a score played out of tune. And for us woodwind players who have cold horns...get plastic reeds, for one thing, and then find your own solutions to tune your various horns accordingly. Tune them COLD! Know how to adjust DURING play and always USE YOUR EARS!
Keith Dunn-Fernandez Hope you feel better now. I’m sure this amateur youth theatre group will benefit massively from your constructive, kindly spoken feedback.