Great machine. I want one to replace my Chinese benchtop anchor. I have a 1924 Van Norman mill with a Bridgeport head and it runs fantastic. The old ones aren’t good for productivity but for precision and prototype work they’re a joy to run.
I love watching old videos like this. Very informative. I also find it amusing to see that in 1941 safety glasses were of no concern in a trade where there is flying metal bits.
A machinist and his lathe is a terrifying force to be reckoned with. One of those early nuclear research reactors had a guy and a lathe supporting operations, and they apparently needed something like an Ion chamber, and he was like I had no idea what a plasma chamber was but once they showed me what it looked like I made em one and they were able to get the reactor built.
Love the guy oiling with that thumb-powered can. Look at how fast he can go! Of course the fact that no oil is actually coming out (because he isn't actually depressing the can bottom) tends to simplify matters too...lol.
The lathe is said to be the only machine tool that can reproduce itself. That’s a ‘stretch’. Sure, there are a lot of round parts on a lathe, but how is a lathe used to produce the bed or the carriage, just to name two major parts that come to mind. These require milling and perhaps grinding.
It's possible to mill on a lathe with an accessory to add vertical movement to the cross-slide and indeed many a model engineer has done this, I personally have held small parts in the tool holder to mill slots before I had a mill. Reproduce no, but producing a lathe on a lathe is certainly possible. But indeed it is a bit of a nonsense statement just used to describe the machines versatility which can certainly go well beyond basic turning with milling, broaching, jig boring, ID and OD grinding etc etc.
The lubrication instructions that I have for my 9" South Bend lathe call for 3 different lubricants for different points. This video shows one lube used all over the place. Spindle and carriage have their own lube (light). Gearbox has its own (medium). Most of the rest uses one (more viscous). There's actually a fourth for the shaft inside the back gear shaft ( a grease), but I haven't followed instructions on that. What are others doing?
It's quite possible they are faking the oiling to avoid complication swapping oilers for the film. Any oil is better than no oil and regular oil is probably best of all. On my Feeler/Hardinge a way oil is specified for the ways, a spindle oil for the spindle and an ATF for the gearbox plus some grease in the threading gearbox and I bought what was recommended but doubt it matters much for light use especially.
Your lathe came with instructions? 🙂 Mine predates this film, and I was told - by the previous owner - to add 90w gear oil for everything. But, he told me he was a farmer, not a machinist . . . . Hmmm.
I bet this is the 13 inch model. Mines the 16 and almost exactly the same. mine does not have the underbelt drive in the cabinet though and I think its a early model because of this but not sure.
I like this video, it has let me know how these work and what to look for on one I'm interested in. I run a cnc lathe at work but I've never ran one of these. We do have a DoAll lathe.
Sou fã desta marca (Southbend), tenho uma furadeira de bancada (drill press) gostaria de poder ter um manual original. Um pouco difícil, não é? Mas esta marca é uma perfeição!!! Ronaldo, São Paulo/Brasil
Lathe: The only machine that can reproduce itself. That's a bit of a stretch. I can think of a lot of components of the lathe that would be a real challenge to recreate. And I'm not going to cheat and say, what about the motors and belts? How about the bed ways? The chuck jaws? How about, "A machine that can almost reproduce itself." Or, "A shop with and lathe and its brother the milling machine can almost reproduce themselves." It almost sounds like a challenge.
I purchased the DVD set from someone that must have had the original movie mine looks much better than yours. I reference these videos all the time for my South Bend 10K commonly called a light ten. Please let me know littlestworkshop if you would like a copy of my DVDs. They also, sent with the DVD All the South Bend documents on running a lathe in PDF.
still around to "play with?" Manual Lathes are still in use every single day by Tool & Die makers and General Machinists. Just because much of the industry has gone to be Button Pushers, doesn't mean real Machinists still aren't around. I'm proud to be one.
@@MaineMachinist And let`s not forget the hundreds of millions of people living in the Third World or in the middle of nowhere at a mining operation in the Andes or something. Parts are insanely expensive and have to be flown in. And a broken part can shut down an entire operation.
What about this is against PC? Also, manual lathes are still very common. They still make brand new em and I still use them. I’d hate to rely on my cnc machines for every tiny job in my shop.
@@littlestworkshop You're welcome. I was born and raised in South Bend, Indiana, and my dad even worked at South Bend Lathe Works in the late 40s or early 50s! This company and its products were a source of pride in the community because of their high quality products, sales success, great reputation all over the world. Excuse my pickiness, LOL!
And now I got myself a South Bend 9A from the 40s here in Germany of all places. Cool video
I have one of these my Dad got in 1947. Still runs great to this day!
just bought one from 1936, I'm getting into machining, and this was the most inexpensive tool I could find, such a cool piece and of such quality.
Great machine. I want one to replace my Chinese benchtop anchor. I have a 1924 Van Norman mill with a Bridgeport head and it runs fantastic. The old ones aren’t good for productivity but for precision and prototype work they’re a joy to run.
Makes me love America even more. Thank you for posting this
This classic film will never die! Nor will lathes until everything is eventually burned up!
Thank you for this video. I just bought a SB 10L Heavy. This video answered a lot of questions I had.
This may also help: www.vintagemachinery.org/pubs/1617/3789.pdf print copies are still available.
That's a beautiful lathe
Thank you for posting this! I've got a heavy ten south bend but I need to learn to thread with it
There is a book by the same name, still available which might be worth getting. Here is an OK pdf of it: www.vintagemachinery.org/pubs/1617/3789.pdf
I just bought a south bend from the late teens early 20's. this helped a lot because I didnt receive info just the machine.
Google "how to run a lathe". It's a good book by Southbend covering a lot of things, really handy even now. There are a pdfs available online.
Nice to see a video from the archives of South Bend Lathe Works. Have to put this with our documentation of our 9 inch SBLW
I love watching old videos like this. Very informative. I also find it amusing to see that in 1941 safety glasses were of no concern in a trade where there is flying metal bits.
No need, they had the good old-fashioned safety squints! Lol
A machinist and his lathe is a terrifying force to be reckoned with. One of those early nuclear research reactors had a guy and a lathe supporting operations, and they apparently needed something like an Ion chamber, and he was like I had no idea what a plasma chamber was but once they showed me what it looked like I made em one and they were able to get the reactor built.
This video, in spite of it's age...still applies...
Except safety. No goggles.
Thanks for sharing. Timeless and inspiring.
Back then a mechanist came to work in a tie! We could learn a lot from looking back
Sure he did, and his chauffeur dropped him off at the main gate.
La máquinas herramientas americanas son consideradas las mejores del mundo.❤
Love the guy oiling with that thumb-powered can. Look at how fast he can go! Of course the fact that no oil is actually coming out (because he isn't actually depressing the can bottom) tends to simplify matters too...lol.
For demonstration purposes only... I noticed that as well... I was waiting for the budunk budunk of the can bottom... His thumb never pushed it.
Just found your channel and Subscribed. Very nice video
Would Love to have the original as well. Thanks for posting it.
The lathe is said to be the only machine tool that can reproduce itself. That’s a ‘stretch’. Sure, there are a lot of round parts on a lathe, but how is a lathe used to produce the bed or the carriage, just to name two major parts that come to mind. These require milling and perhaps grinding.
It's possible to mill on a lathe with an accessory to add vertical movement to the cross-slide and indeed many a model engineer has done this, I personally have held small parts in the tool holder to mill slots before I had a mill. Reproduce no, but producing a lathe on a lathe is certainly possible. But indeed it is a bit of a nonsense statement just used to describe the machines versatility which can certainly go well beyond basic turning with milling, broaching, jig boring, ID and OD grinding etc etc.
A mill is a lathe. Lathe ways were originally flattened by scraping and eventually, by the Whitworth 3 plate lapping method.
The lubrication instructions that I have for my 9" South Bend lathe call for 3 different lubricants for different points. This video shows one lube used all over the place. Spindle and carriage have their own lube (light). Gearbox has its own (medium). Most of the rest uses one (more viscous). There's actually a fourth for the shaft inside the back gear shaft ( a grease), but I haven't followed instructions on that. What are others doing?
It's quite possible they are faking the oiling to avoid complication swapping oilers for the film. Any oil is better than no oil and regular oil is probably best of all. On my Feeler/Hardinge a way oil is specified for the ways, a spindle oil for the spindle and an ATF for the gearbox plus some grease in the threading gearbox and I bought what was recommended but doubt it matters much for light use especially.
Your lathe came with instructions? 🙂 Mine predates this film, and I was told - by the previous owner - to add 90w gear oil for everything. But, he told me he was a farmer, not a machinist . . . . Hmmm.
Hola me recomendaron un torno South b tipo a 31/2, es buena opción como primer torno ?
I don't know.
I bet this is the 13 inch model. Mines the 16 and almost exactly the same. mine does not have the underbelt drive in the cabinet though and I think its a early model because of this but not sure.
I like this video, it has let me know how these work and what to look for on one I'm interested in. I run a cnc lathe at work but I've never ran one of these. We do have a DoAll lathe.
So, how did it go?
People forget that these craftsmen used inferior tools to create superior tools..no computers to do it for them
Damn good point saw bone
They actually had to do math equations e.g. how to cut gear teeth to the exact TPI and make the whole think come out even.
Mesin bubut klasik 👍
Sou fã desta marca (Southbend), tenho uma furadeira de bancada (drill press) gostaria de poder ter um manual original. Um pouco difícil, não é? Mas esta marca é uma perfeição!!! Ronaldo, São Paulo/Brasil
vintagemachinery.org/pubs/1617/2004.pdf
Gee thanks :-)
Obrigado pelo manual. Fico muito grato mesmo. Que Deus abençoe você meu amigo. Ronaldo
He is applying the same oil everywhere which in incorrect according to southbend, should have 4 different oil cans...
It's probably empty anyway :)
so much for using 4 different types of oil...
Lastima que no tiene subtitulos en español
Turning between centers , hehee
Lathe: The only machine that can reproduce itself.
That's a bit of a stretch. I can think of a lot of components of the lathe that would be a real challenge to recreate. And I'm not going to cheat and say, what about the motors and belts? How about the bed ways? The chuck jaws?
How about, "A machine that can almost reproduce itself." Or, "A shop with and lathe and its brother the milling machine can almost reproduce themselves."
It almost sounds like a challenge.
You can make a lathe on a lathe but not the same lathe. It's a nonsense saying but they are very versatile and you can mill on them.
What type of lathe is this ???
Thanks for posting! Where did you find that footage?
The interweb somewhere. I'd love to get the original to digitize
Why are you using TH-cam video stabilization on this? Making me sick lol
The original (which I have also uploaded) jumps around a lot this is better despite the odd weird bit.
I purchased the DVD set from someone that must have had the original movie mine looks much better than yours. I reference these videos all the time for my South Bend 10K commonly called a light ten. Please let me know littlestworkshop if you would like a copy of my DVDs. They also, sent with the DVD All the South Bend documents on running a lathe in PDF.
Thank You!!!
God, don't let the P.C. police get hold of this one! LOL. Glad we still have conventional lathes to play with in spite of the CNC revolution.
still around to "play with?"
Manual Lathes are still in use every single day by Tool & Die makers and General Machinists. Just because much of the industry has gone to be Button Pushers, doesn't mean real Machinists still aren't around. I'm proud to be one.
First and last manual machinist is the source of this revolution am one of them
@@MaineMachinist And let`s not forget the hundreds of millions of people living in the Third World or in the middle of nowhere at a mining operation in the Andes or something. Parts are insanely expensive and have to be flown in. And a broken part can shut down an entire operation.
What about this is against PC? Also, manual lathes are still very common. They still make brand new em and I still use them. I’d hate to rely on my cnc machines for every tiny job in my shop.
@@ivankoran - There are still hand machinists around but not very many of 'em anymore.
I think I watched this video at my maturation assembly ........
Title should be South Bend Lathe....not Southbend as one word.
8 years late but now fixed, thanks.
@@littlestworkshop You're welcome. I was born and raised in South Bend, Indiana, and my dad even worked at South Bend Lathe Works in the late 40s or early 50s! This company and its products were a source of pride in the community because of their high quality products, sales success, great reputation all over the world. Excuse my pickiness, LOL!
Just bought one and refurbishing it! Do you guys know where to find the year on the machine?