I love your reviews because you give the most realistic expectation towards these IEM reviews. You understand that sound is subjective which is why I feel more informed watching your videos as opposed to analyzing graphs. Yes I agree that the name Obsidian should be used in lieu of the OH10. It’s kind of like calling someone human 7251A instead of Dan lol
This one is still my favorite. I feel like the bass is so well integrated with the mids and the highs. Excellent for electronic music, and I’m not talking EDM, I’m talking techno, house, Richie Hawtin, Luke Slater, UR, Jazzanova, Atjazz, Chateau Flight, I:cube.
So let first start by saying thank you for recommending these sound masterpieces from Heaven. I ordered these at the end of 2021 and received them today 1/21/22, yes it took a month! I'm going to start by saying that I have a few different IEM'S and none of them give me the Bass, Soundstage, and presence that come across so incredibly dynamic as these. They are tiny pieces of musical Bliss, I can't stop listening to the music in my Library and thinking Wow this is what it's supposed to sound like. Thanks Dan for the awesome Sound Demos, it definitely helped me make a decision to purchase these Obsidian dynamos! Cheers to You! I would also like to say that with all the other headphones I have, I had to use Viper4android to get this type of Sound!!! Thanks again bro. Subbed Now I need a decent pair of over ears, I'm sure your sound demos will Help me. 🥰
@Rodney Moody . I'm on the opposite of your situation, I just ordered the OH10 to pair them with my over ears. If I have to give you a recomendation, look at the Fidelio H2/HR. Those are the end game for me. Warm balanced over hear. Really fun to listen to music with them, enough detail, amazing bass. There are some audio samples on Z-reviews channel I guess. You should try to check it out
Great review…there’s something about the Obsidians’ mass that adds to the isolation and sensuality of the bass and it translates over the spectrum. Still the top dog in my IEM’s stable. As for an album that has great range , vocals and bass that’s deep and clean: Zaba by Glass Animals 😎
I ended finding a brand new pair of Obsidian OH10 on ebay for $150.00 shipped so I jumped on them ! .......You spoke great about them so they have to be good...... I currently use the Moondrop Variations and for on the road I use The Mele .......
Just got this from drop. I don't hear any shrill on the highs nor thin vocal. This OH10 sounds very similar to T3+ with more bass rumble and details, but the difference is not large. I am liking what I am hearing so far as I love my T3+.
@@crankiisago well the T3+ is smoother in the treble while the OH10 is a bit edgier on the treble. It can get fatiguing after awhile. The weight of the IEM itself can be a factor in making your ears fatigue. The OH10 overall sound is like you boost the subbass and treble on the T3+.
would love it if you can compare it to others around the same price range (hana 2021, kato, oxygen, timeless, etc). compare it in all aspects (bass, midrange, treble, soundstage, imagining ,etc)
1) The Timeless was a bad fit for me, but even when I 'ensured' the fit to ensure a good seal, I disliked the tonality. There was bass but it lacked realism, the mids were detailed but had no soul, the high end was OK but grainy. 2) The Kato was better, beautifully built and a decent sound - but came over as thinner and less emotionally involving than the OH10 Obsidian. 3) The OH10 Obsidian was a surprise. I was expecting bass-heavy, warm and maybe 'cloying' from some reviewers descriptions. But no. They have a bottom end that can gum-up, but mostly they are simply lovely. What's your word? - euphonious, I think. They have plenty of detail and resolution but, unlike the other two here, they don't shove it in your face. I love these IEMs. They fit well (heavy but I don't feel them) and sonically they remind me of my Sennheisser HD600s - a staggering achievement I think for a $200 in-ear device. I'm still re-listening to all my favorite jazz and acoustic tracks - that's a what a music reproduction device should achieve. It may not be rapture, but it's close enough. Btw, I'm playing them through a little FIIO BTR5 and it's clean, bright and powerful. The OH10s sound even nicer through my Schiit Asgard 3, so they really scale. I'm still grinning!!
Great first impressions Dan. Love the Obsidian's as well. It's weight makes it feel premium and the bass is very nice. Top 5 in my collection. Perhaps 6 when I get the Timeless. 😎🤙 Can't wait to get my Melaleuca Plus. Instead of model number I decided to give it a name. 😂
I bought these and Variations at the same time - I always go for the Obsidian between the two - UNLESS I Want a more tame sound - Variations is like being punched with a thick boxing glove - Obsidian is like being punched with no glove at all - The shrill treble with Obsidian can be a little too much, which is when i reach for the Variations - the Obsidian gets a pleasing bit of tamed down with the i-Planet foam tips
@VinnyUnion volume doesn't really have as much to do with the hardware like this as your audio source. If you want to be able to control volume as fully as possible and get louder than your ears can handle I'd recommend getting a good amp/dac combo. Might make your iems sound better too.
I actually like brighter treble in general but I noticed the 400 series comply foam tips dampened that quite a bit too. Not my preference but for those who have an issue foam tips would be my first recommendation to help with that.
Great video. I now tested the t3+ and the ikko oh10 obsidian and I got to say that I kinda would rank them the same. The Ikko has more base impact but the t3+ is a bit more balanced but v shaped too. to be honest the oh10 lacks a little bit to much body for me. Maybe i am just to used to my dt 1990 but rock and metal doesnt sound that good on the ikko to me. Still oth good IEM, I guess the timeless is a bether fit for me :)
Update. I'm on my third set - they last 6 months and then the clam shell splits clean in two. They are luscious and detailed (enough). The dynamics are very good. I have Hifi man RE800, Timeless and Moondrop Kato. Despite the QA problems I will keep replacing them - they are so comfortable and so musical. Spintips are recommended
@@Lucas_Stradeus maybe superglue. They come apart cleanly and I’m sure it’s just epoxy or superglue used by Ikko. I’ve replaced the two that failed within warranty. But it’s a hassle. Third pair is over a year and holding up. I give the. A lot of use / abuse - and sleep in them often. Try not to go drop them on hard surfaces and they should be ok. Like I say, it’s hard to find anything better without going to $500.
There is a good reason why people keep talking about the OH10 despite being 2+ years old by now. The only person that doesn't like the OH10 is Crinacle and he tends to have pretty unpopular opinions on cult IEMs like the Xenns UP
These seem to teeter on the edge of flamboyance in a way that smooth operators may find either de trop or exciting, and party people could appreciate as energetic but well refined. Interesting, for sure.
Got them today and am loving the way they sound! Thanks for the videos on these that made me make up my mind to upgrade from my recent first IEM which was Moondrop Aria. Gonna stick with these for sometime till am ready to jump to something like Xenns Up. :) I tried Spinfit CP100 (itchy in my ears!) and eventually went back to default black ones.
I’m pretty sure that It’s a string bass on that svensson trio. Not a cello. That said, I just got through 3 way comparison with Timeless and Kato. And you are right these won hands down for me. The cable and the folder carrying case are pretty poor. But the IEM itself is very nicely built. These have a warm sound but are balanced out with a fair amount of detail and top-end. The mids seem a little recessed on some material. I used them on a FIIO BTR5 and they are open and well powered. Also, they responded well to EQ. I found that lifting the mid-range and (less-so) the high frequency was good on most material. I agree with Dan, on jazz these are terrific. Try "Art Pepper meets the Jazz Messengers".
Well, though they don’t have a full review dedicated to themselves, I do share demos of them in the Blessing 2 Dusk video. You can check out how good they sound there :)
yup, I'm totally on the same boat as you are bro, for the unique name. Peoples needed to acknowledge IEM by their unique names, only use model number if & only if the name are similar as I think most decent IEM doesn't have similar name 🤓👍🏻
Hi Dan! Love your videos, keep them coming! Can you compare the Obsidian (see what I did there) with Hana 2021 / Oxygen and the Mele in your full review? Thank you!
YES, the OH10 is amazing! I tried comparing auditioning it with Thieaudio Legacy 4 in store and I looked at the guy in the store and like "Can you please bag the IKKO, I heard enough you can put the L4 away, thank you." it might just be a really subjective matter but I don't find the treble to be too shrill, and I also listen to EDM and rock.
Totally subjective indeed. I could see how people could enjoy these on practically anything, including that rock I preferred other gear on. So personal.
@@nuthinbutnikk17 I don’t mod much these days, personally. If someone wants to mod though, and it takes out the high end, it may be a good way to go. Often what happens though when people try to reduce a hot spot, is that the hot spot actually helps give some unique and fun traits to the gear. So I would wonder if some tracks would lose some of their good qualities with the treble reduction. I think classical and jazz actually seem to benefit from it. Not really sure if anything here. But ya, I don’t mod these days. All the power though to people who do!
Hi Dan! Love the videos - keep it up :) Just wondering if you're going to check out the FiiO Eclipse coming out. If so, can you please compare them to these? I noticed that they seem to measure pretty similarly, so I wonder how they stack up
@@dansaudioreviews I just tried it today in a headphone store. the OH10 is way better for my personal taste. I compare my own Dunu SA6 (which I know you like it too), to the OH10, to the OH1S, to the See Yume, to the BGVP DM8, and even to the QDC Anole(Which worth around 3000USD). The Dunu SA6 still my favorite out of all the earphones I've tried so far, and the OH10 is a pretty close second. The snare, and the brightness of the kick drum, is disappeared with the See Yume, same with the BGVP DM8. I don't consider that flat or even sounding, everything just sound very "covered up". And the OH1S is too bright and lack the low punch of the OH10. And for the 3000$ QDC Anole, man, that thing sounds grand and wide and open, but I really don't like the top end on the Anole. Some may say that's "detail", but for me it's very fatiguing. If I'm check a mix of a song with my mixing engineer with the Anole, I would ask him to roll off the top end of the Hi-Hat and the cymbals. But with the SA6, everything sounds more "accurate". Like if I take off the SA6 and listen back with my studio monitor, they sound much more similar. I think the Dunu SA6 deserve much more popularities, I use it on everything now, tracking, live performance, checking my mix, it handles everything so well, that it makes my old UE custom sound like junk. I think I'm too off topic here LOL!! Sorry!! OH10 and See Yume, get the OH10!! And QDC Anole and Dunu SA6? Get the SA6 and the Unique Melody MEST mkii, and you will still have couple hundred dollars left.
Have you done a review comparing this to the OH10S? Reviewers I've read seem to think this has better bass. But, it can no longer be bought on Amazon, at lwast as far as I can see.
Thank you! And yes. I feel like being unmonetized is a better approach, at least early on. Heck, if my patreon support grows well enough, I won’t ever use monetizeable music.
Does a strong impact bass with fairly thick and deep bass quantity can be called a basshead IEM? My perception is that a called basshead IEM if there is more dominant bass emphasize than the mids and treble, a fairly boomy bass, recessed vocals, and boosted the treble extension. I think the T3+ not in the basshead category. It still v shape balance categories, I was checked on some squiglinks and another reviews. But everyone have a different perception and taste.
Fair way of describing the term. I guess, to me, these have a lot of bass psychoacoustically compared to the rest of the response. Even though the graph may show other areas being lifted (though I haven’t looked yet, just going by your description here), the bass is so audibly strong that I can’t describe them another way but having string bass. Maybe one could say bass head. Whatever people use the term for, these have a unique and sultry base :p
Accurate and neutral, and the Blessing 2 is probably it. Musical…maybe not. At least, not for me. The obsidian sounds pretty musical, but definitely not neutral. The best thing I could suggest might be the Tinhifi T3+ for a balance between sounding accurate and sounding fun and engaging. Or, going up in price, the DUNU SA6. That’s perhaps my most favorite balanced or neutral sounding earphone, while still being engaging and enjoyable. Or, for actual utter neutrality, the etymotic brand pretty much strives to be the pinnacle of neutrality.
Hi Dan! Could you please suggest an iem around 200 dollars for listening to Beethoven Symphonies and classical orchestral music in general. I really like your channel by the way. Thanks!!
Hi, I don't know if you'll end up reading this comment but it would be nice to get review on the durability of iem and also on good cable vs bad one, etc.
I see this comment 👀 For cable reviews, or other accessory talk, I want to make more videos about the side topics. It just won’t happen any time soon. My focus is just not there right now.
@@dansaudioreviews maybe not full review (who want to spend tons of time on this ?) but more a focus when for exemple you say "the cable is not really good",etc. I was like "ok....but why ?" since I had no explanations but a statement and no obvious flaws to judge about it. : )
So are you not recommending this for techno, electronica, melodic techno, house, progressive house? Which would be the best for those genres? Dealing with atmospherics, deep bass and synthezisers? Fyi i currently own tin t2 t2plus, blon 01, kz zx10pro, but looking to step up my game. My amp is the fiio btr3k. Thanks!
Oh gosh…good question. I think I would actually recommend the Obsidian just fine for electronic. They have a good thump to them and play the textures of the synthetic sounds quite well. Depending on the electronic music you have though, the forwardness of the Obsidian (OH10) could be too bombastic for you. But generally I think they play most electronic with a lot of excitement without much fatigue. But again, it depends on your library. It’s also so great for so many other genres anyway that you would enjoy it regardless.
@@dansaudioreviews thank you for your answer! Ok so maybe I should go for this? Unless you think the Dunu you like would be a better fit? Great channel by the way you got a new Subscriber 🙂
@@paulallen9518 Well Dunu's SA6 is just so buttery smooth and clean to listen to for every single track in my library. It's top of class for what it does well. It's just different though than the Obsidian's thumpy and punchy presentation. I could own both and be so so pleased. If I had to guess, and I really don't want to steer you wrong for your tastes here, but I would speculate that the Obsidian is better for most people who prefer electronic music - the reason being that the Obsidian delivers impact that electronic tracks often try to engage the listener with. The SA6 isn't really trying to be so impactful. Then again, the SA6 is so pleasing and easy to listen to, that it's a terrific choice anyway too.
@@dansaudioreviews thank you for the input! Just for context this is a typical song; th-cam.com/video/0BH4bRRyihI/w-d-xo.html in my library, a lot in that "essence"..I am a DJ so I need IEMs comfortable there. I will think about these two options. 🙂 Many thanks you rock man keep doing these quality videos.
@@paulallen9518 Pretty nicely mastered track! Love how crisp everything is. That dynamic between the high hat sound and the thumps is great. I would say that the Obsidian will sound very very fun here, while the SA6 would be easier on the ears for long listening sessions. In terms of what that means if you were to DJ with these IEM's in your ears while performing... not sure. I'd probably guess to seek a pair that matches the speaker system as best as possible. But, I'm not a DJ, nor do I know your exact objectives and situation with owning these IEM's with respect to your work. If I had to guess, since speakers at concerts and so on like to ensure the bass is dialed up, I would think that the Obsidian might be a closer match to what your audience may get. But idk 🤷🏻♂️
Bought them last week. Sounded great but were painful to wear. They appeared to be larger than other iem's. Tried to like them but couldnt handle it. Still looking. Love your reviews.
After many months of research, It looks like if i finaly founded the iem i need to listen the kind of musicale i like (classical ans jazz) thanks to you !!! But, do you have another good iem for classical, jazz, acoustic instruments ans vocals under 1000$ ?
Oh absolutely. I love the ThieAudio Clairvoyanace or the DUNU SA6 for well under $1000. They are extremely smooth and listenable for classical. I remember taking drives with the Clairvoyance in my ears, classical playing, and just loving every minute of the pleasing drive.
Have tried it 2 times, and literally thinking about getting it for the 3rd time now😂 But I am torn up between it and between the Mangird tea. Thoughts? I loved everything about the Ikko, but I feel like I need an upgrade, something for rock and modern mixes, indie pop.
If you tried it twice already, I would probably suggest trying something new. I’ve felt mixed about things too, like the UP. Even though I could appreciate its merits, I couldn’t bring myself to put them on as my daily driver when I wasn’t personally getting what I wanted out of them with the male vocals. If you tried the Obsidian twice already, I imagine you’re feeling unsure about how they feel for you in actual daily use. The Tea is a pretty big departure in tuning, being a brighter set. I think that is a great idea if you’re looking to try something new. It’ll give you something far removed from the Obsidian’s tastes to try. If you’re going for something big and full sounding though, like the Obsidian, then I would easily and strongly recommend the Timeless. Exceptional detail and heft.
@@dansaudioreviews I actually lost it for those 2 times lol. But yea, I think it's time for a change. What do you think would be better for rock, and the Trap- remixes kind of music? Like things that you listen to at the gym, walking etc? Mangird tea, or the timeless?
@@XhMOod12345 very personal preference there. I can see both satisfying people with those genres but for different reasons. Personally, I would say the Timeless. With the great resolution and hefty bass, it satisfies for intense music well. Stuff that has strong bass does very well there.
@@dansaudioreviews i just watched your video with the B2D vs MEST vs IKKO vs ARIA Man, that video was freaking amazing! Especially with including the demos! completely killed away any urge in me to get the B2D, as I like some fun in my IEM. But you need to make one with the Mangird tea and timeless ASAP! I can't think of any better way to compare earphones than you did!
God I'm such a sucker for IEMs with anime girls and good artwork on boxes. Guess I'm buying a new IEM. *Shut up mom I only have 11 IEMs, there's room for more*
Looking to pick up an Obsidian (not OH10😁) and saw that they were going for $150 on Drop, which seems like a great deal! I'm not sure how affiliations work, but wish I had a link with you that I can click through!
I do like the cooler names more. OH10 is obsidian, and the OH1 is the meteor if I recall. EDIT: Also, respect, but I listen to rock on these and just love it.
There are different types of electronic music.. and accordingto your description.. these are not that good for house/EDM tracks... but they would sound awesomewith some Techno/trance/some Traps/Future house/Bass house.. hmm my type of music... im gonma buy one
I would still prefer the Timeless. Though these play some music more enjoyable, the Timeless plays more music to my taste. Electronic, busier metal/rock, maybe vocalists too, for example, are more enjoyable to me with the Timeless. More of my library goes that way. But if you love jazz more than anything, or classical too, then you may want the Obsidian. Maybe. Full review coming!
I have recently discovered you and like the commentary , but… It seems you repeatedly refer to playing the upright acoustical bass (more formerly “double bass”) as “plucking the cello” (?)
Goo question. I haven’t actually tried either on films yet. Though I might speculate the Timeless. The Tea doesn’t have a whole lot of bass, and in films bass can be fairly important to feel immersed. I can’t say for sure, unfortunately. I don’t have the tea with me anymore. Plus the Timeless has greater detail retrieval and technicals, it seems to me. But hey, I could be wrong. The Tea could be great and I wouldn’t be able to confirm.
Are you telepathic, man? These were one of my top considerations a few weeks back before I bought my Hana 2021!!! Ultimately swayed away from it due to my bassy IEMs BTW which case are you using for your earphones, could you link me to them please? Sure could use one with my collection slowly expanding
I use this one to carry multiple at a time with me. www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002610408546.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.31bb2e31o073fu&algo_pvid=0b7b95d4-1a97-4aaf-adde-aae2b077379e&algo_exp_id=0b7b95d4-1a97-4aaf-adde-aae2b077379e-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000021380974568%22%7D
I agree, the bass and midrange are wery good. But the treble is too much and shrill and fatiguing, to bad because otherwise it would be almost unbeatable... Keep up the exelent work and give us more soundclips, I would like a soundclip of all the stuff you test. Because l don't have the money to test myself....
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I love your reviews because you give the most realistic expectation towards these IEM reviews. You understand that sound is subjective which is why I feel more informed watching your videos as opposed to analyzing graphs. Yes I agree that the name Obsidian should be used in lieu of the OH10. It’s kind of like calling someone human 7251A instead of Dan lol
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Bro the way you explain yourself is amazing...I love your reviews because I know you are really giving an honest expression
This one is still my favorite. I feel like the bass is so well integrated with the mids and the highs. Excellent for electronic music, and I’m not talking EDM, I’m talking techno, house, Richie Hawtin, Luke Slater, UR, Jazzanova, Atjazz, Chateau Flight, I:cube.
So let first start by saying thank you for recommending these sound masterpieces from Heaven. I ordered these at the end of 2021 and received them today 1/21/22, yes it took a month! I'm going to start by saying that I have a few different IEM'S and none of them give me the Bass, Soundstage, and presence that come across so incredibly dynamic as these. They are tiny pieces of musical Bliss, I can't stop listening to the music in my Library and thinking Wow this is what it's supposed to sound like. Thanks Dan for the awesome Sound Demos, it definitely helped me make a decision to purchase these Obsidian dynamos! Cheers to You! I would also like to say that with all the other headphones I have, I had to use Viper4android to get this type of Sound!!! Thanks again bro. Subbed
Now I need a decent pair of over ears, I'm sure your sound demos will Help me. 🥰
I’m very glad I could help you find gear that sounds so good for you :)
I agree entirely about how great the Obsidians “OH10” are!
@Rodney Moody . I'm on the opposite of your situation, I just ordered the OH10 to pair them with my over ears. If I have to give you a recomendation, look at the Fidelio H2/HR. Those are the end game for me. Warm balanced over hear. Really fun to listen to music with them, enough detail, amazing bass. There are some audio samples on Z-reviews channel I guess. You should try to check it out
Just my Ikko obsidian and I am blown away, wish I bought em sooner.
Thanks for the rec and great review
Great review…there’s something about the Obsidians’ mass that adds to the isolation and sensuality of the bass and it translates over the spectrum.
Still the top dog in my IEM’s stable.
As for an album that has great range , vocals and bass that’s deep and clean: Zaba by Glass Animals 😎
I ended finding a brand new pair of Obsidian OH10 on ebay for $150.00 shipped so I jumped on them ! .......You spoke great about them so they have to be good...... I currently use the Moondrop Variations and for on the road I use The Mele .......
They are amazing and I'm selling the Moondrop Variations........
@@MannyScoot wow, is the obsidian THAT good?
@@MannyScootare they that good?
Just got this from drop. I don't hear any shrill on the highs nor thin vocal. This OH10 sounds very similar to T3+ with more bass rumble and details, but the difference is not large. I am liking what I am hearing so far as I love my T3+.
do u think it's worth an upgrade from t3+ to oh10 if the difference is just little?
@@crankiisago well the T3+ is smoother in the treble while the OH10 is a bit edgier on the treble. It can get fatiguing after awhile. The weight of the IEM itself can be a factor in making your ears fatigue. The OH10 overall sound is like you boost the subbass and treble on the T3+.
would love it if you can compare it to others around the same price range (hana 2021, kato, oxygen, timeless, etc). compare it in all aspects (bass, midrange, treble, soundstage, imagining ,etc)
+1
Totally into this idea!
1) The Timeless was a bad fit for me, but even when I 'ensured' the fit to ensure a good seal, I disliked the tonality. There was bass but it lacked realism, the mids were detailed but had no soul, the high end was OK but grainy.
2) The Kato was better, beautifully built and a decent sound - but came over as thinner and less emotionally involving than the OH10 Obsidian.
3) The OH10 Obsidian was a surprise. I was expecting bass-heavy, warm and maybe 'cloying' from some reviewers descriptions. But no. They have a bottom end that can gum-up, but mostly they are simply lovely. What's your word? - euphonious, I think. They have plenty of detail and resolution but, unlike the other two here, they don't shove it in your face.
I love these IEMs. They fit well (heavy but I don't feel them) and sonically they remind me of my Sennheisser HD600s - a staggering achievement I think for a $200 in-ear device.
I'm still re-listening to all my favorite jazz and acoustic tracks - that's a what a music reproduction device should achieve. It may not be rapture, but it's close enough.
Btw, I'm playing them through a little FIIO BTR5 and it's clean, bright and powerful. The OH10s sound even nicer through my Schiit Asgard 3, so they really scale. I'm still grinning!!
@@michaelknibbs do you have olina to campare with Oh10
@@dileepmonk8656 nope
Great first impressions Dan. Love the Obsidian's as well. It's weight makes it feel premium and the bass is very nice. Top 5 in my collection. Perhaps 6 when I get the Timeless. 😎🤙
Can't wait to get my Melaleuca Plus. Instead of model number I decided to give it a name. 😂
Obsidian is On sale for 140 Ali and Amazon. Few dealers will price match til end of the year! Great incentive!
Good to know! I only saw a $170 or $180 or something…
I bought these and Variations at the same time - I always go for the Obsidian between the two - UNLESS I Want a more tame sound - Variations is like being punched with a thick boxing glove - Obsidian is like being punched with no glove at all - The shrill treble with Obsidian can be a little too much, which is when i reach for the Variations - the Obsidian gets a pleasing bit of tamed down with the i-Planet foam tips
Is it really that good? Does it get loud? The sound can be great and all but as long as the volume doesn't reach the heavens, i certainly do not enjoy
@VinnyUnion volume doesn't really have as much to do with the hardware like this as your audio source. If you want to be able to control volume as fully as possible and get louder than your ears can handle I'd recommend getting a good amp/dac combo. Might make your iems sound better too.
I actually like brighter treble in general but I noticed the 400 series comply foam tips dampened that quite a bit too. Not my preference but for those who have an issue foam tips would be my first recommendation to help with that.
Great video. I now tested the t3+ and the ikko oh10 obsidian and I got to say that I kinda would rank them the same. The Ikko has more base impact but the t3+ is a bit more balanced but v shaped too. to be honest the oh10 lacks a little bit to much body for me. Maybe i am just to used to my dt 1990 but rock and metal doesnt sound that good on the ikko to me. Still oth good IEM, I guess the timeless is a bether fit for me :)
Update. I'm on my third set - they last 6 months and then the clam shell splits clean in two. They are luscious and detailed (enough). The dynamics are very good. I have Hifi man RE800, Timeless and Moondrop Kato. Despite the QA problems I will keep replacing them - they are so comfortable and so musical. Spintips are recommended
Wow. I’m sorry they are breaking on you. But I’m happy they’re making you happy.
But wow.
I was going to buy one, but not anymore 😂
@@ThiagoCP I’d still buy it. They are better than anything twice the price
@@michaelknibbsIs there no way to glue the two parts back together?
@@Lucas_Stradeus maybe superglue. They come apart cleanly and I’m sure it’s just epoxy or superglue used by Ikko. I’ve replaced the two that failed within warranty. But it’s a hassle. Third pair is over a year and holding up. I give the. A lot of use / abuse - and sleep in them often. Try not to go drop them on hard surfaces and they should be ok. Like I say, it’s hard to find anything better without going to $500.
Looking forward to the full review!
I second that ✋
There is a good reason why people keep talking about the OH10 despite being 2+ years old by now.
The only person that doesn't like the OH10 is Crinacle and he tends to have pretty unpopular opinions on cult IEMs like the Xenns UP
Cirnacle also gave the Mangird tea a C rating lmao.
This product also has pretty character on the package
how does the sound compared to kato ? im having hard time deciding either buying ikko o̶h̶1̶0̶ i mean obsidian, kato , or shuoer s12
looking forward to the demo video even though im not really into iems atm
These seem to teeter on the edge of flamboyance in a way that smooth operators may find either de trop or exciting, and party people could appreciate as energetic but well refined. Interesting, for sure.
Got them today and am loving the way they sound! Thanks for the videos on these that made me make up my mind to upgrade from my recent first IEM which was Moondrop Aria. Gonna stick with these for sometime till am ready to jump to something like Xenns Up. :)
I tried Spinfit CP100 (itchy in my ears!) and eventually went back to default black ones.
Yea the 100 isn’t as comfortable as the 145. I go for the 145 myself
@@dansaudioreviews So you saying I should go for CP145, better than default; or JVC Spiral Dot?
@@VicharB can’t speak to whether you may prefer spiral dot or 145, but yes I would say 145 over 100 for the ear feel.
Hey Dan :) my oh10 and T3+ just arrived. They are both awesome. Which tips do you prefer on the obsidians, the darker or the lighter ones?
I preferred the ones that came on my version: grey with red nozzle grips.
Have you tried listening to Jazz and Classical on the Tripowin MELE ? .......Amazing !
I’m pretty sure that It’s a string bass on that svensson trio. Not a cello. That said, I just got through 3 way comparison with Timeless and Kato. And you are right these won hands down for me. The cable and the folder carrying case are pretty poor. But the IEM itself is very nicely built. These have a warm sound but are balanced out with a fair amount of detail and top-end. The mids seem a little recessed on some material. I used them on a FIIO BTR5 and they are open and well powered. Also, they responded well to EQ. I found that lifting the mid-range and (less-so) the high frequency was good on most material. I agree with Dan, on jazz these are terrific. Try "Art Pepper meets the Jazz Messengers".
Waiting on the full review. Also waiting on these in the mail 🤞hope this works out
Well, though they don’t have a full review dedicated to themselves, I do share demos of them in the Blessing 2 Dusk video. You can check out how good they sound there :)
Can confirm, these are great!
yup, I'm totally on the same boat as you are bro, for the unique name. Peoples needed to acknowledge IEM by their unique names, only use model number if & only if the name are similar as I think most decent IEM doesn't have similar name 🤓👍🏻
my man you are really really tempting me geeeezz.....
Hi Dan! Love your videos, keep them coming! Can you compare the Obsidian (see what I did there) with Hana 2021 / Oxygen and the Mele in your full review? Thank you!
Oh I’m planning on it!
YES, the OH10 is amazing!
I tried comparing auditioning it with Thieaudio Legacy 4 in store and I looked at the guy in the store and like "Can you please bag the IKKO, I heard enough you can put the L4 away, thank you."
it might just be a really subjective matter but I don't find the treble to be too shrill, and I also listen to EDM and rock.
Totally subjective indeed. I could see how people could enjoy these on practically anything, including that rock I preferred other gear on.
So personal.
@@dansaudioreviews But do you think that you'd do some mod on these pair? Maybe the foam mod to get the top end suppressed
@@nuthinbutnikk17 I don’t mod much these days, personally. If someone wants to mod though, and it takes out the high end, it may be a good way to go. Often what happens though when people try to reduce a hot spot, is that the hot spot actually helps give some unique and fun traits to the gear. So I would wonder if some tracks would lose some of their good qualities with the treble reduction.
I think classical and jazz actually seem to benefit from it. Not really sure if anything here.
But ya, I don’t mod these days. All the power though to people who do!
Hi Dan! Love the videos - keep it up :) Just wondering if you're going to check out the FiiO Eclipse coming out. If so, can you please compare them to these? I noticed that they seem to measure pretty similarly, so I wonder how they stack up
I would like to try them, ya. We’ll see what comes next though. So much in the lineup!
If you can do a comparison, I wonder how is it compare to the See Yume.
There’s a good chance I could be getting sent the Yume for loan. I hope it gets to me!
@@dansaudioreviews I just tried it today in a headphone store. the OH10 is way better for my personal taste. I compare my own Dunu SA6 (which I know you like it too), to the OH10, to the OH1S, to the See Yume, to the BGVP DM8, and even to the QDC Anole(Which worth around 3000USD). The Dunu SA6 still my favorite out of all the earphones I've tried so far, and the OH10 is a pretty close second. The snare, and the brightness of the kick drum, is disappeared with the See Yume, same with the BGVP DM8. I don't consider that flat or even sounding, everything just sound very "covered up". And the OH1S is too bright and lack the low punch of the OH10. And for the 3000$ QDC Anole, man, that thing sounds grand and wide and open, but I really don't like the top end on the Anole. Some may say that's "detail", but for me it's very fatiguing. If I'm check a mix of a song with my mixing engineer with the Anole, I would ask him to roll off the top end of the Hi-Hat and the cymbals. But with the SA6, everything sounds more "accurate". Like if I take off the SA6 and listen back with my studio monitor, they sound much more similar.
I think the Dunu SA6 deserve much more popularities, I use it on everything now, tracking, live performance, checking my mix, it handles everything so well, that it makes my old UE custom sound like junk. I think I'm too off topic here LOL!! Sorry!! OH10 and See Yume, get the OH10!! And QDC Anole and Dunu SA6? Get the SA6 and the Unique Melody MEST mkii, and you will still have couple hundred dollars left.
Have you done a review comparing this to the OH10S? Reviewers I've read seem to think this has better bass. But, it can no longer be bought on Amazon, at lwast as far as I can see.
Your taste in music selection is leagues ahead of any other audio channels. Likely unmonetized channel at this stage in your TH-cam career. Smart.
Thank you! And yes. I feel like being unmonetized is a better approach, at least early on. Heck, if my patreon support grows well enough, I won’t ever use monetizeable music.
help me please should i get these or Sennheiser IE 200 or Kinera Idun Golden 2.0 for everyday listening? :))) thank you so much in advance :))
I already own moondrop Kato..is this still worth buying ?!
Good job right there 👍. Quick one how does this set compare to yanyin Aladdin in terms of sub-bass, mid-bass and soundstage? I'm just about to get one
No idea 🤷🏻♂️ I’ve never tried the Aladdin. Not yet anyway
@@dansaudioreviews Oops! Thanks anyways
Does a strong impact bass with fairly thick and deep bass quantity can be called a basshead IEM? My perception is that a called basshead IEM if there is more dominant bass emphasize than the mids and treble, a fairly boomy bass, recessed vocals, and boosted the treble extension. I think the T3+ not in the basshead category. It still v shape balance categories, I was checked on some squiglinks and another reviews. But everyone have a different perception and taste.
Fair way of describing the term. I guess, to me, these have a lot of bass psychoacoustically compared to the rest of the response. Even though the graph may show other areas being lifted (though I haven’t looked yet, just going by your description here), the bass is so audibly strong that I can’t describe them another way but having string bass. Maybe one could say bass head.
Whatever people use the term for, these have a unique and sultry base :p
What do you recommend for edm. I was hoping to buy these for edm but now idk.
now i'm a bit worried, i was sure these were going to be my next IEM's, but i mostly listen to Synth.
how about the ikko oh1 , do they sound the same or atleast closer?
Dan (or others) - any opinion on which sound better between the Blessing 2 and the Obsidian? Looking for something neutral, accurate, musical. Thanks.
Accurate and neutral, and the Blessing 2 is probably it. Musical…maybe not. At least, not for me.
The obsidian sounds pretty musical, but definitely not neutral. The best thing I could suggest might be the Tinhifi T3+ for a balance between sounding accurate and sounding fun and engaging.
Or, going up in price, the DUNU SA6. That’s perhaps my most favorite balanced or neutral sounding earphone, while still being engaging and enjoyable.
Or, for actual utter neutrality, the etymotic brand pretty much strives to be the pinnacle of neutrality.
Hi Dan!
Could you please suggest an iem around 200 dollars for listening to Beethoven Symphonies and classical orchestral music in general. I really like your channel by the way.
Thanks!!
You should try the oh10 with their double dac wireless band that attached to these units incredible sound
Hi, I don't know if you'll end up reading this comment but it would be nice to get review on the durability of iem and also on good cable vs bad one, etc.
I see this comment 👀
For cable reviews, or other accessory talk, I want to make more videos about the side topics. It just won’t happen any time soon. My focus is just not there right now.
@@dansaudioreviews maybe not full review (who want to spend tons of time on this ?) but more a focus when for exemple you say "the cable is not really good",etc. I was like "ok....but why ?" since I had no explanations but a statement and no obvious flaws to judge about it. : )
So are you not recommending this for techno, electronica, melodic techno, house, progressive house?
Which would be the best for those genres? Dealing with atmospherics, deep bass and synthezisers?
Fyi i currently own tin t2 t2plus, blon 01, kz zx10pro, but looking to step up my game. My amp is the fiio btr3k.
Thanks!
Oh gosh…good question.
I think I would actually recommend the Obsidian just fine for electronic. They have a good thump to them and play the textures of the synthetic sounds quite well.
Depending on the electronic music you have though, the forwardness of the Obsidian (OH10) could be too bombastic for you. But generally I think they play most electronic with a lot of excitement without much fatigue. But again, it depends on your library.
It’s also so great for so many other genres anyway that you would enjoy it regardless.
@@dansaudioreviews thank you for your answer! Ok so maybe I should go for this? Unless you think the Dunu you like would be a better fit? Great channel by the way you got a new Subscriber 🙂
@@paulallen9518 Well Dunu's SA6 is just so buttery smooth and clean to listen to for every single track in my library. It's top of class for what it does well. It's just different though than the Obsidian's thumpy and punchy presentation. I could own both and be so so pleased.
If I had to guess, and I really don't want to steer you wrong for your tastes here, but I would speculate that the Obsidian is better for most people who prefer electronic music - the reason being that the Obsidian delivers impact that electronic tracks often try to engage the listener with. The SA6 isn't really trying to be so impactful. Then again, the SA6 is so pleasing and easy to listen to, that it's a terrific choice anyway too.
@@dansaudioreviews thank you for the input! Just for context this is a typical song; th-cam.com/video/0BH4bRRyihI/w-d-xo.html in my library, a lot in that "essence"..I am a DJ so I need IEMs comfortable there. I will think about these two options. 🙂 Many thanks you rock man keep doing these quality videos.
@@paulallen9518 Pretty nicely mastered track! Love how crisp everything is. That dynamic between the high hat sound and the thumps is great. I would say that the Obsidian will sound very very fun here, while the SA6 would be easier on the ears for long listening sessions.
In terms of what that means if you were to DJ with these IEM's in your ears while performing... not sure. I'd probably guess to seek a pair that matches the speaker system as best as possible. But, I'm not a DJ, nor do I know your exact objectives and situation with owning these IEM's with respect to your work. If I had to guess, since speakers at concerts and so on like to ensure the bass is dialed up, I would think that the Obsidian might be a closer match to what your audience may get. But idk 🤷🏻♂️
How does it compare to legato
Bought them last week. Sounded great but were painful to wear. They appeared to be larger than other iem's. Tried to like them but couldnt handle it. Still looking. Love your reviews.
After many months of research, It looks like if i finaly founded the iem i need to listen the kind of musicale i like (classical ans jazz) thanks to you !!! But, do you have another good iem for classical, jazz, acoustic instruments ans vocals under 1000$ ?
Oh absolutely. I love the ThieAudio Clairvoyanace or the DUNU SA6 for well under $1000. They are extremely smooth and listenable for classical. I remember taking drives with the Clairvoyance in my ears, classical playing, and just loving every minute of the pleasing drive.
Have tried it 2 times, and literally thinking about getting it for the 3rd time now😂
But I am torn up between it and between the Mangird tea. Thoughts?
I loved everything about the Ikko, but I feel like I need an upgrade, something for rock and modern mixes, indie pop.
If you tried it twice already, I would probably suggest trying something new. I’ve felt mixed about things too, like the UP. Even though I could appreciate its merits, I couldn’t bring myself to put them on as my daily driver when I wasn’t personally getting what I wanted out of them with the male vocals.
If you tried the Obsidian twice already, I imagine you’re feeling unsure about how they feel for you in actual daily use.
The Tea is a pretty big departure in tuning, being a brighter set. I think that is a great idea if you’re looking to try something new. It’ll give you something far removed from the Obsidian’s tastes to try.
If you’re going for something big and full sounding though, like the Obsidian, then I would easily and strongly recommend the Timeless. Exceptional detail and heft.
@@dansaudioreviews
I actually lost it for those 2 times lol. But yea, I think it's time for a change.
What do you think would be better for rock, and the Trap- remixes kind of music? Like things that you listen to at the gym, walking etc?
Mangird tea, or the timeless?
@@XhMOod12345 very personal preference there. I can see both satisfying people with those genres but for different reasons.
Personally, I would say the Timeless. With the great resolution and hefty bass, it satisfies for intense music well. Stuff that has strong bass does very well there.
@@dansaudioreviews i just watched your video with the B2D vs MEST vs IKKO vs ARIA
Man, that video was freaking amazing! Especially with including the demos!
completely killed away any urge in me to get the B2D, as I like some fun in my IEM.
But you need to make one with the Mangird tea and timeless ASAP!
I can't think of any better way to compare earphones than you did!
God I'm such a sucker for IEMs with anime girls and good artwork on boxes. Guess I'm buying a new IEM.
*Shut up mom I only have 11 IEMs, there's room for more*
Lol!
Looking to pick up an Obsidian (not OH10😁) and saw that they were going for $150 on Drop, which seems like a great deal!
I'm not sure how affiliations work, but wish I had a link with you that I can click through!
Oh! If you haven’t already bought, I can make a link for Drop (given they have a deal going on). BRB
Feel free to use this:
massdrop.7eer.net/yRL2eV
@@dansaudioreviews Perfect 👍. Thanks and can't wait to hear your thoughts on this against the Olina, as I have that on the way as well. Cheers!
@@pilsberry thank YOU. Those commissions seriously help me buy more gear for the channel. And thank you for your support by watching and commenting 🤘🏻
I do like the cooler names more. OH10 is obsidian, and the OH1 is the meteor if I recall.
EDIT: Also, respect, but I listen to rock on these and just love it.
Haha. All good! Everyone has their personal preferences.
“vo-loo-meh-nous” 😂 👍
😂
I bet snake jazz must sound awesome in these. :D
The sibilance
There are different types of electronic music.. and accordingto your description.. these are not that good for house/EDM tracks... but they would sound awesomewith some Techno/trance/some Traps/Future house/Bass house.. hmm my type of music... im gonma buy one
I already decided to buy Timeless and now this??? Uffff what to do?
I would still prefer the Timeless. Though these play some music more enjoyable, the Timeless plays more music to my taste. Electronic, busier metal/rock, maybe vocalists too, for example, are more enjoyable to me with the Timeless. More of my library goes that way.
But if you love jazz more than anything, or classical too, then you may want the Obsidian. Maybe.
Full review coming!
I have recently discovered you and like the commentary , but… It seems you repeatedly refer to playing the upright acoustical bass (more formerly “double bass”) as “plucking the cello” (?)
For films, timeless or mangird tea?
Goo question. I haven’t actually tried either on films yet.
Though I might speculate the Timeless. The Tea doesn’t have a whole lot of bass, and in films bass can be fairly important to feel immersed. I can’t say for sure, unfortunately. I don’t have the tea with me anymore.
Plus the Timeless has greater detail retrieval and technicals, it seems to me.
But hey, I could be wrong. The Tea could be great and I wouldn’t be able to confirm.
How heavy Obsidians are ?
Pretty heavy! But not so much that it feels unwelcome in the ear. They feel very nice.
Just a suggestion, why not put with your rankings charts what genre's you think each iem/headphone is best suited to...
Having a column in my chart for genre recommendations might be a nice idea actually
ObsidH10n? Mnemonic device for OH10?
🤯Totally makes sense! I still prefer “Obsidian” 😜
Are you telepathic, man? These were one of my top considerations a few weeks back before I bought my Hana 2021!!! Ultimately swayed away from it due to my bassy IEMs
BTW which case are you using for your earphones, could you link me to them please? Sure could use one with my collection slowly expanding
I use this one to carry multiple at a time with me.
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002610408546.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.31bb2e31o073fu&algo_pvid=0b7b95d4-1a97-4aaf-adde-aae2b077379e&algo_exp_id=0b7b95d4-1a97-4aaf-adde-aae2b077379e-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000021380974568%22%7D
I agree, the bass and midrange are wery good.
But the treble is too much and shrill and fatiguing, to bad because otherwise it would be almost unbeatable...
Keep up the exelent work and give us more soundclips, I would like a soundclip of all the stuff you test.
Because l don't have the money to test myself....
Treble is really not too much nor fatiguing.
Did you come up with that conclusion from listening the demos on this video or do you own them?
Just got Crin’s Midnight IEM’s…OMG.
They’re giving the OH10’s a hard run for the top dog in my IEM’s stable..just wow!🍻
Gotta check them out!
obsidian's treble on FR graph looks harsh
I didn’t look but that makes sense with what I hear
Got the OH10 and found it to be average. I prefer my kato over it.
Better than timeless? They are same price!
Better for me on my classical and jazz favorites yea. But I still prefer the Timeless overall across multiple genres.
@@dansaudioreviews rank please.
@@onlyspace9813 I’m feeling a solid A at this time. It may go up or down with more listening.
@@dansaudioreviews ohhh! Maybe as Mangird tea. Thanks.
Then you like the fh3 from fiio. Close tone
bro you are out here making me sick with the motion
Sorry, that was an old method of camera work. Now I stick to third person with a stationary camera. ✌🏻
@@dansaudioreviews nice i was really interested in the title
So.. for something that is called Obsidian, it's not that good to play 'rock' and 'metal' lol
Not as preferable for me on my tracks tested, compared to others I’ve tried, but still not bad overall.
The masculine urge to name your products with an unintelligible string of letters and numbers.
The masculine urge to turn your products into waifus
that "case" is dogshit hahahaha. I do love the obsidians though.