Hell yeah I’m subscribing. This guy is sitting inside of a motor room of a submarine with a quality microphone telling it like it is. On top of that I’ve never heard Bob’s your uncle before. So I just learned a new phrase, this guy is the best!
What a great Podcast voice! Just listened to this while walking the baby and am excited to go to your channel to see what other nuggets of wisdom you're throwing out.
Well thank you! I live in northern Portugal and our painted pool is a pain as it constantly flakes. We decided to go for the small mosaic type tiles. Long story short, with Covid the pool company have now told us we have to wait until...autumn/October as they can’t get the workmen as it’s now tourist season.. and they are busy with contracts! I’m very cross! Anyhow another company told us about a type of liner that I believe to be the vinyl liner..with various thickness and prices. On watching another of your great videos telling me that I can never really empty it...plus watching how it’s put in, and seeing how folk have bubbles etc etc....You have convinced me I was right first time! Tiles it will be. First a thin painted on coating that will help stop moisture in either direction, then the tiles will be put on with the usual waterproof glue and the grouting will be epoxy which is more expensive but should last longer! How does that sound? And I’m glad I’m in Portugal...our quotes are much lower here! (So is our wine and coffee btw! ) Thanks for any more advice Swimming Pool Steve?! 🇵🇹
I live in Portugal too and own a (thick) liner pool. So how did it go? Are you happy with the tiles? The part of Portugal I live (Algarve) has quite a lot of small earthquakes the whole year. I thought a liner could possibly take that better than tiles although I see a lot of tile pools overhere that seem to be ok.
This is great info. I’m a newbie pool owner. It’s from the days of bomb shelters. How do I know what on the surface to clean it up. It’s solid but discolored
Great advice. I have a pebble mix finish which is sound but has lost it's shine and is very difficult to keep clean. My plan is to tile over the top but would you recommend waterproofing with a cementitious sealer beforehand or will the tile adhesive have waterproofing qualities?
hi Steve, I just tiled my swimming pool with glass tiles. You said the grouting needs to be redone once in a few years. I did use epoxy grout. the only problem i had is sometimes there is a pinhole in the grout - I tried to patch them all but what if I missed a few? hopefully it will not create problems down the road. the pool is concrete pool and I did the waterproofing (Mapelastic 315) as well. thanks
This is awesome information. I’m researching, and will put in a concrete plunge pool. Since it’s smaller, I may be able to use tile. What is your view on plunge pools - any particular problems?
Terminology can change depending on who you are speaking with, but yes marcite is a pool plaster. White sand and white cement is plaster. But it could be marble dust or dolomite or silica or quartz crystal and called many names interchangeably
It does not because adding salt to your pool will not harm it, only if you do not balance your water chemistry...and if you dont do that then it does not matter what kind of pool you have because poor water chemistry destroys all of them.
Unless the shell was brand new as in pool just built would not recommend lining the pool If your referring to putting a liner cover over a shell of course as long as its sealed up completely
I’m having a problem with a couple of my pebble tech pools. They are getting a turquoise tent to them. All my levels are within range. Have you ever heard of this? Ps it’s not algae.
Prior to applying sidercrete, would it be best to apply a 1/2" portland + sand + acrylic coat over the CMU'S with fiberglass lath (fiberlath) Would the acrylic admix be a good or bad idea?
You can use pigments in thr plaster for limited color selection. You can also add colored aggregates but then you need to do a reveal immediately following the plaster which I am not a huge fan of. Some contractors don't like pigment plaster as it is streaky and inconsistent for coloation
I don't ever hear about anyone placing HDPE welded liners under the RC concrete and using a waterproof and chemical resistant concrete. Does anyone know why this is? Sounds like it would simplify a lot of the challenges that people experience.
Hi Steve. We have a concrete pool that has paint that is slowing chipping off from a previous resurface. What do you think about the ecofinish products?
Great input! I am a DIY guy exploring all options & appreciate the comments about using a product like Pebbletec and Wet Edge pebble lines when it comes to future resurfacing cons. Can u recommend any products that could be theoretically applied by a knowledgeable homeowner?
Hey Steve - love your brutally honest videos. What do you think of resurfacing concrete pools with fiberglass? We're considering it 'cos the old concrete shell has a dozen vertical cracks and the fiberglass lining makes it waterproof and supposedly has some flex. But it's not as attractive as plaster with glass beads... Would love your thoughts!
so f you have a concrete block pool rendered wall/screed floor and its painted it will leak ,is there anything that you can put on top of the screed and render to make it leak proof before painting it
A render does not make a concrete pool waterproof. Concrete is porous. The parge render is porous...if you want to make a concrete vessel waterproof then you need to waterproof it with something like redgard, hydroban or basecrete. Further to this a block wall pool with a render finish was a poor and cheap design from the 60's and 70's. Only really suitable for hanging a liner in. A block wall pool with a poured floor is NOT a concrete pool.
I had a pool guy tell me I don't need tile around the upper part of my concrete pool. We just bought this property and don't know the whole history of the pool. It was built around 1962. It has a crack/leak, which has been repaired in the past. There is tile along the upper margin now and of course, he's trying to talk me into a more expensive proprietary coating there instead. What do you think?
Plaster is not suitable for dry sometimes / wet sometimes areas. This is why tile is used in this location. Any plaster render or parge coat will fail here. It s pretty common to find concrete pools with this done...very rare to find one where the concrete is not all failing along the waterline.
Do you think I could plaster my pool myself? I also considered tiling the pool myself. If you have proper techniques for tiling pool video?I also have some gouges when I dug up my pool up with backhoe. Someone filled with gravel which I removed. I got a hold of stairs with backhoe which I will have to patch rounded edges flattened. Any help appreciated. I have researched recommended hydraulic cement maybe with acrylic to patch gouges. Any help appreciated 👍 Its a 9 foot deep pool which is rounded belly in deep end. I have also co sided liner but its concrete and I hear some issues can come out of that. Thanks
Resurfacing yourself can be done but its a lot of work Draining Pulling hydrostatic main drain plug Juking the pool Identifying, removing and blocking in hollow spots Acid wash Applying a bonding agent All of this has to be done before a new surface can be put on
I am thinking of ICF pool. can I tile on top of the foam? or do I need to page it first then let it dry then tile on top of the parge surface with tile glue?
cheers for the reply! Im building an ICF house actually, pool seemed like a natural expansion and i like the monopour option to remove cold joints. I would think a redgard water barrier on inside and then tile over that would be ok BUT i would prefer to learn from other peoples experience good or bad first! thanks again!
I'm rendering my pool with sand cement on blue glass beads mix with a sponge smooth finish💪, think it will look cool grey cement blue glass shimmer 🙅♂️
For tiles for a 1000m³ surface the square-meter would need to cost 30bucks to have 30.000usd costs and 1000 square-meter seems to be quite much for a pool. I looked for that small mosaik-tiles made from glass and the Square-Meter is 12€....so it seems not to be SO expensive.
There are loads of tiles on the market which are not suitable for use in pools. The correct tiles which are paper faced, not mesh backed, and has passed thermal shock tests, frost resistance etc. are around $30 per square foot. This would put glass tile costs at 60k for a 20x40' pool. Yes there are many cheap tiles on the market, but you should not be using those in pools. Large format porcelain if you want cheap square footage coverage, but if you want glass tiles you have to pay, big time, and that includes buying tiles that meet the technical specifications for use in pools.
Hahaha tile is DEFINITELY NOT THE BEST SURFACE/FINISH for your concrete swimming pool. Not sure where Steve is from but he missed by A MILE ON THIS ONE! Research more people..
If installed properly you have gotten EXTREMELY LUCKY if you get 50 years out of your tile..especially if you’re in a cold climate and it’s not an indoor facility . Build (or renovate) an all concrete pool with PVC is very tough to beat (if installed properly like you said). Don’t have to worry about all the little maintenance along the way that comes attached/along with tile like you mentioned. Cut, weld, bond, on site and your concrete pool is ready for 30+ years EASY with 40-50 years probably being a more realistic number. Tough to beat German Engineering 💪
Hell yeah I’m subscribing. This guy is sitting inside of a motor room of a submarine with a quality microphone telling it like it is. On top of that I’ve never heard Bob’s your uncle before. So I just learned a new phrase, this guy is the best!
It's British slang
What a great Podcast voice! Just listened to this while walking the baby and am excited to go to your channel to see what other nuggets of wisdom you're throwing out.
Well thank you! I live in northern Portugal and our painted pool is a pain as it constantly flakes. We decided to go for the small mosaic type tiles. Long story short, with Covid the pool company have now told us we have to wait until...autumn/October as they can’t get the workmen as it’s now tourist season.. and they are busy with contracts! I’m very cross! Anyhow another company told us about a type of liner that I believe to be the vinyl liner..with various thickness and prices. On watching another of your great videos telling me that I can never really empty it...plus watching how it’s put in, and seeing how folk have bubbles etc etc....You have convinced me I was right first time! Tiles it will be. First a thin painted on coating that will help stop moisture in either direction, then the tiles will be put on with the usual waterproof glue and the grouting will be epoxy which is more expensive but should last longer! How does that sound? And I’m glad I’m in Portugal...our quotes are much lower here! (So is our wine and coffee btw! ) Thanks for any more advice Swimming Pool Steve?! 🇵🇹
I live in Portugal too and own a (thick) liner pool. So how did it go? Are you happy with the tiles? The part of Portugal I live (Algarve) has quite a lot of small earthquakes the whole year. I thought a liner could possibly take that better than tiles although I see a lot of tile pools overhere that seem to be ok.
I enjoy your considered science based opinion about all things pool related. Keep doing the good work.
What do think about products like Pebble Tec?
This is great info. I’m a newbie pool owner. It’s from the days of bomb shelters. How do I know what on the surface to clean it up. It’s solid but discolored
Finally someone that talks straight about pool maintenance
I sure try!
Hi sir. I’m building my swimming and I’m going to think of what surface should I get so maybe tile? But I have to work more to be able to afford it
Great advice. I have a pebble mix finish which is sound but has lost it's shine and is very difficult to keep clean. My plan is to tile over the top but would you recommend waterproofing with a cementitious sealer beforehand or will the tile adhesive have waterproofing qualities?
Good information , thank you Steve . What do you think of quartz over regular plaster ?
Great job! thoroughly covering pool plaster, paint, or tile. Thank you🙏
Wow I was literally wondering this after watching your other video lol you’re a blessing thank you 🙏
Hey I'm looking to buy a house that has a concrete pool any suggestions what to look for and how to maintain the pool?
Thank you, Steve. This was EXACTLY the guidance I was looking for!!
hi Steve, I just tiled my swimming pool with glass tiles. You said the grouting needs to be redone once in a few years. I did use epoxy grout. the only problem i had is sometimes there is a pinhole in the grout - I tried to patch them all but what if I missed a few? hopefully it will not create problems down the road. the pool is concrete pool and I did the waterproofing (Mapelastic 315) as well. thanks
Hello!
What store you buy cement for put tiles and waterproof seal ?
@@elenakurus2010 Prosol in Burnaby
At last, no bullshit, I've subscribed. How do you work out the amount of acrylic ? and is colouring the white cement a good idea ?
I’m thinking of Renovating my pool surface and Tiling the pool. I’m worried about the grouting , is there a waterproof grout that should be used ?
What is the best seal before applying tile ?
This is awesome information. I’m researching, and will put in a concrete plunge pool. Since it’s smaller, I may be able to use tile. What is your view on plunge pools - any particular problems?
Thanks, When you say regular pool plaster is that considered to be Marcite?
Terminology can change depending on who you are speaking with, but yes marcite is a pool plaster. White sand and white cement is plaster. But it could be marble dust or dolomite or silica or quartz crystal and called many names interchangeably
@@Swimmingpoolsteve thanks!
Does a saltwater pool tip the balance of considerations on surface choice?
It does not because adding salt to your pool will not harm it, only if you do not balance your water chemistry...and if you dont do that then it does not matter what kind of pool you have because poor water chemistry destroys all of them.
Would be your suggestion on SGM diamond Brite steve
Thanks for the information. Can you put a liner on a concrete shell?
Unless the shell was brand new as in pool just built would not recommend lining the pool
If your referring to putting a liner cover over a shell of course as long as its sealed up completely
Here is a video about putting a liner into a concrete pool: th-cam.com/video/HhjIA0Xl6HA/w-d-xo.html
Can you add "Mortar Coloring" to the Portland mix? Tell us more about the Liquid Acrylic additive.
Yes integral pigment is used in some colored plasters
I’m having a problem with a couple of my pebble tech pools. They are getting a turquoise tent to them. All my levels are within range. Have you ever heard of this? Ps it’s not algae.
For a DIY CMU block pool.
Would you suggest roll on Sidercrete?
Prior to applying sidercrete, would it be best to apply a 1/2" portland + sand + acrylic coat over the CMU'S with fiberglass lath (fiberlath)
Would the acrylic admix be a good or bad idea?
I saw the speciffication on the pool finish it say "crystal" . Does it means it a combination of quarts or glass beads?
Can the plaster be tinted when mixed? If not, is it ok to paint over plaster?
You can use pigments in thr plaster for limited color selection. You can also add colored aggregates but then you need to do a reveal immediately following the plaster which I am not a huge fan of. Some contractors don't like pigment plaster as it is streaky and inconsistent for coloation
Hello!
Can I use regular porcelain for pool and what cement I should use ?
This guy knows his stuff
Wouls this be an acceptable coating?
concrete-cement-masonry/bagged-concrete-cement-mortar/akona-reg-heavy-duty-waterproofing-base-coat
I don't ever hear about anyone placing HDPE welded liners under the RC concrete and using a waterproof and chemical resistant concrete. Does anyone know why this is?
Sounds like it would simplify a lot of the challenges that people experience.
Which is a better option Pebble crete or glass crete
I was looking for pool ideas and stayed for your voice!
So basically, I was looking for copper and found gold
@Darius Nicholas But do the movies have Steve's voice though...?
@James Curtis You can watch a movie anytime but Steve's voice is 1 in a million.
Hi Steve. We have a concrete pool that has paint that is slowing chipping off from a previous resurface. What do you think about the ecofinish products?
Great presentation on helpful information. Thank you.
Great input! I am a DIY guy exploring all options & appreciate the comments about using a product like Pebbletec and Wet Edge pebble lines when it comes to future resurfacing cons. Can u recommend any products that could be theoretically applied by a knowledgeable homeowner?
Hey Steve - love your brutally honest videos. What do you think of resurfacing concrete pools with fiberglass? We're considering it 'cos the old concrete shell has a dozen vertical cracks and the fiberglass lining makes it waterproof and supposedly has some flex. But it's not as attractive as plaster with glass beads... Would love your thoughts!
What did you end up doing? I have cracking issues myself
so f you have a concrete block pool rendered wall/screed floor and its painted it will leak ,is there anything that you can put on top of the screed and render to make it leak proof before painting it
A render does not make a concrete pool waterproof. Concrete is porous. The parge render is porous...if you want to make a concrete vessel waterproof then you need to waterproof it with something like redgard, hydroban or basecrete. Further to this a block wall pool with a render finish was a poor and cheap design from the 60's and 70's. Only really suitable for hanging a liner in. A block wall pool with a poured floor is NOT a concrete pool.
What about aligners?
Great info. Thanks!
I had a pool guy tell me I don't need tile around the upper part of my concrete pool. We just bought this property and don't know the whole history of the pool. It was built around 1962. It has a crack/leak, which has been repaired in the past. There is tile along the upper margin now and of course, he's trying to talk me into a more expensive proprietary coating there instead. What do you think?
Plaster is not suitable for dry sometimes / wet sometimes areas. This is why tile is used in this location. Any plaster render or parge coat will fail here. It s pretty common to find concrete pools with this done...very rare to find one where the concrete is not all failing along the waterline.
@@Swimmingpoolsteve Thank you!!!!!
Do you think I could plaster my pool myself? I also considered tiling the pool myself. If you have proper techniques for tiling pool video?I also have some gouges when I dug up my pool up with backhoe. Someone filled with gravel which I removed. I got a hold of stairs with backhoe which I will have to patch rounded edges flattened. Any help appreciated. I have researched recommended hydraulic cement maybe with acrylic to patch gouges. Any help appreciated 👍 Its a 9 foot deep pool which is rounded belly in deep end. I have also co sided liner but its concrete and I hear some issues can come out of that. Thanks
Resurfacing yourself can be done but its a lot of work
Draining
Pulling hydrostatic main drain plug
Juking the pool
Identifying, removing and blocking in hollow spots
Acid wash
Applying a bonding agent
All of this has to be done before a new surface can be put on
Here is a video about this question: th-cam.com/video/eLZ5FAii8kY/w-d-xo.html
Wow! Thank you. Great honest share.
Glad it was helpful!
You are amazing!!!
Thanks Steve, very helpful
What are you thoughts about ICF pools? Insulated concrete forms.
Damnnn ... 30-100k for pool tiling? Sounds like the same cost to install a new pool or replace the pool? Lol
I am thinking of ICF pool. can I tile on top of the foam? or do I need to page it first then let it dry then tile on top of the parge surface with tile glue?
did you get an answer to your question from other sources? i am scourging the youtube comment sections for this exact thing....thx
@@mimimoras8342 NO, but I think you should do a pool like foundation wall of a house and spray foam the outer wall
cheers for the reply! Im building an ICF house actually, pool seemed like a natural expansion and i like the monopour option to remove cold joints. I would think a redgard water barrier on inside and then tile over that would be ok BUT i would prefer to learn from other peoples experience good or bad first! thanks again!
@@mimimoras8342 what city?
I'm rendering my pool with sand cement on blue glass beads mix with a sponge smooth finish💪, think it will look cool grey cement blue glass shimmer 🙅♂️
For tiles for a 1000m³ surface the square-meter would need to cost 30bucks to have 30.000usd costs and 1000 square-meter seems to be quite much for a pool.
I looked for that small mosaik-tiles made from glass and the Square-Meter is 12€....so it seems not to be SO expensive.
There are loads of tiles on the market which are not suitable for use in pools. The correct tiles which are paper faced, not mesh backed, and has passed thermal shock tests, frost resistance etc. are around $30 per square foot. This would put glass tile costs at 60k for a 20x40' pool. Yes there are many cheap tiles on the market, but you should not be using those in pools. Large format porcelain if you want cheap square footage coverage, but if you want glass tiles you have to pay, big time, and that includes buying tiles that meet the technical specifications for use in pools.
You rock Steve ty
Not a mention of peeble.
Well, you are a Debbie Downer! Thanks for the information 😊
I wish I could ask him questions directly !! I need help. lol .... help ? anyone?
shoot
Thanks again.
Fibreglass coating the concrete pool is the most common technique in Australia.
acrylic paint on a budget, re-paint every 5 years or so, seems the easiest
Great video. Mostly cause you said "bobs your uncle!"
Canada, “second generation swimming pool and spa specialist”. Smh. I can’t.
Yes, this is precisely what I am. Even won an industry leadership award for my work in this industry in 2018.
Hahaha tile is DEFINITELY NOT THE BEST SURFACE/FINISH for your concrete swimming pool. Not sure where Steve is from but he missed by A MILE ON THIS ONE! Research more people..
So what is better than tile? When installed properly it has a service life of over 50 years. So which interior surface are you claiming is better?
If installed properly you have gotten EXTREMELY LUCKY if you get 50 years out of your tile..especially if you’re in a cold climate and it’s not an indoor facility . Build (or renovate) an all concrete pool with PVC is very tough to beat (if installed properly like you said). Don’t have to worry about all the little maintenance along the way that comes attached/along with tile like you mentioned. Cut, weld, bond, on site and your concrete pool is ready for 30+ years EASY with 40-50 years probably being a more realistic number. Tough to beat German Engineering 💪