How People Pushed 3D Movie Maker To Its Limits

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  • 3D Movie Maker is part of the Microsoft Kids series of software from the mid-90s.
    Despite being from 1995, this game is still being used to make movies today.
    You won't believe what some people are capable of this with this children's game, pushing it to its absolute limits.
    The community is still active, making tools and mods, and somebody has even been working on an open source remake for a few years.
    And whilst I was working on this, the full source code for 3D Movie Maker was released.
    Music is mostly from the 3dmm soundtrack:
    archive.org/details/3dmm-comp...
    Also featuring MiNdS oThEr by ICK FX:
    ickfx.bandcamp.com/album/abho...
    And Yes, You Can Pet The Cat by Richard Kerry:
    doubleheadrecords.bandcamp.co...
    Useful links:
    3dmm forums:
    3dmm.com/
    3dmm Studio:
    www.3dmmstudio.co.uk/
    3D Movie Maker source code:
    github.com/microsoft/Microsof...
    PyQ:
    github.com/foone/PyQ
    Twitter links about the game going open source:
    shanselman/status...
    / 1521904206197653504
    The movies I found on an old hard disk:
    Crap:
    • "Crap" - a 3D Movie Ma...
    Modified Rover Thing:
    • "Modified Rover Thing"...
    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro/Memories
    1:33 Movies I Made
    3:55 3D Movie Maker and Alternatives
    4:25 What 3DMM Can Do
    6:06 3DMM Characters
    7:29 Backstage
    8:40 3DMM Community
    9:39 Official Expansions
    10:38 Unofficial Mods
    11:07 3DMM Tools and Utilities
    14:16 Open Source
    15:58 The Movies Made with 3DMM
    17:20 Outro
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ความคิดเห็น • 93

  • @BlazeHeartPanther
    @BlazeHeartPanther 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    Kind of surprised you didn't mention some of the modern classics like Rats: The Movie and Blue Shell Incident.

    • @Thoroughly_Wet
      @Thoroughly_Wet 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Or "Grandpa found the car keys"

    • @bigplosion
      @bigplosion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ermm... it's actually the Rat Movie.

    • @BlazeHeartPanther
      @BlazeHeartPanther 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bigplosion(Looks it up) Huh, you're right. My mistake ^^!

    • @requisbarfington
      @requisbarfington 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      they aint real movies

  • @AaronBowley
    @AaronBowley 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    when i was a kid we won a spanish version of this at a silent auction and i swear it was one of the most impactful “moments” of my life. the way it makes you think of things along these dynamic 3d spaces impacted me a lot

  • @3dmmarchive151
    @3dmmarchive151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    What an incredible and thoughtful retrospective I see so many people brush 3dmm off as some crappy program that can’t really do anything good but make dumb memes. Seeing you mention those movies which are some of the greats really put a smile on my face as well as the custom scenery which is honestly better than most of other new peoples movies I would honestly welcome seeing a movie release from you on the board think you show some real promise.

    • @ClassicEd
      @ClassicEd  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honestly some of the stuff I've seen made with it is amazing, a lot of it kind of stupid or comedy but there's all the potential for some aspiring movie makers. The dumb meme videos are pretty funny too.
      Was going to make a little short for the end of the video but making this vid took way longer than I intended. One of my friends keeps talking about wanting to make a 3dmm musical so I might have a project to get involved with

    • @3dmmarchive151
      @3dmmarchive151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ClassicEd music stuff in 3dmm has always been somewhat tricky but if you end up doing it I look forward. And if you wanna see peak 3dmming this is it th-cam.com/video/tGXvJP7R8CI/w-d-xo.html

  • @awrx
    @awrx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    nice retrospective! i feel when comparing 3dmm to utilities like Source Filmmaker, Blender, etc. i think what gave 3dmm its uniqueness (besides the fact that it was early - 3d polygonal characters in PC games were novel for the time, quake wasn't yet released by the time 3dmm came out) was the low barrier of entry. you could push the medium to certain limits, but it was built in mind to be "so easy even a kid could make a movie."
    i wish i had my 3dmm movies that i had made with my sister from when i was a kid. i'm sure it's on some (probably dead) hard drive somewhere.

    • @ClassicEd
      @ClassicEd  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's true, I played this game for the first time in 15 years and knew exactly what to do. In Blender it took me about a week to make a donut. Excited for the future of 3dmm. Sorry about your movies, I think most of mine have met a similar fate 😕

  • @DoctorMario606
    @DoctorMario606 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This game will always hold a special place in my heart. Coming home from school to watch 3dmm movies on youtube was always the highlight of my day

  • @3percentmilk
    @3percentmilk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We had the demo of this when i was about 5, amd I genuinely thought it was just a crazy fever dream. So glad its real

  • @thetruegoldenknight
    @thetruegoldenknight 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I would LOVE to mess around with the "open source" or even the "original" 3DMM because there's a series I'm writing which is set in the 1990s so I totally want to capture the essence of that period of time, with all the jank that it entails.

    • @ClassicEd
      @ClassicEd  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not much work has been done on the open source version I don't think, last time I checked Foone was working on reverse engineering Ski Free. Here's the github page, github.com/foone/3DMMForever. If you check out the 3DMM forums there should be a pre-setup virtual Windows XP Machine you can download for playing with some 3DMM, that's what I used for this video.

  • @Gemquist
    @Gemquist หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OMG! The castle scene with someone running away!
    I remembering having this black haired woman running away from a skeleton that was chasing her. XD

  • @shartstudios
    @shartstudios หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never thought I would play this game again but I'm so happy all these years later to play it. So many good memories and more to come

  • @Shimamon27
    @Shimamon27 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think I know why I create animations today.
    I grew up loving to create insane stuff in 3DMM and the other one with Ren and Stimpy.
    I barely remember anything... Except that it was just sheer fun!

  • @Karmy.
    @Karmy. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    EACH TOTEM ON THE POLE

  • @nakfoor1846
    @nakfoor1846 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good job on the retrospective. While I haven’t been active in the community since the mid 2000s, I also used the program in 99 to 01 as a child and was a member of the forum. You nailed the recounting of the history of the community. It certainly is a unique piece of software. What I appreciate is the developers had their minds in the right place. They didn’t just make a child’s game where you pick pre-made assets and smashed them together with finite combinations. The developers really emphasized unlimited control in the user interface, and it shows and has been essential in the longevity of the game. The player really has no constraints on his or her imagination.

    • @ClassicEd
      @ClassicEd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The "unlimited control" thing was hugely important to me. I remember being so excited for The Movies from Lionhead Studios and the immennse disappointment when I realised how little control you had over making the movies in the game. I went back to 3dmm.

  • @Da.Liar-Pig
    @Da.Liar-Pig 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    10:31 "nooo how did you not know Doraemon"

  • @justwallgames
    @justwallgames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Amazing video as always my dude. Im into those old movies. ❤ that ick fx

  • @chaplaincadet
    @chaplaincadet 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I made a Resident Evil hour long film and it was pretty amazing, but lost it to a house fire unfortunately. I'll have to see about remaking it, since I heard 3DMM is open source now and you can play it without the CDROM now.

  • @moonwolfv671
    @moonwolfv671 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That new version what that guy is developing sounds good. I was never able to get my hands on a copy of it back in the day. If he can put it up on Steam, even better, he'd definitely have me buying it.

  • @yuriythebest
    @yuriythebest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just discovered your channel - you have a very good way of reviewing/narrating things! I remember seeing ads for 3D Movie Maker from inside another game as a kid (it also had that blue picasso-esque guy), and remember really wanting it and thinking that it's the coolest thing and imagining what I'd be able to do with it. I never did up getting it, but I did end up learning to use macromedia flash later on for cartoons and simple games, and later 3ds max as a kid which started off my self-taught education which culminated in being a unity dev. I can only imagine how many people started off with this and transitioned to something more professional.

  • @thegodwiwi6316
    @thegodwiwi6316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great, loved how almost all the video is made in the software itself lol

  • @theFriendlyGhst
    @theFriendlyGhst ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This game was my whole childhood. I was massively obsessed with 3dmm.

  • @KojiKazama
    @KojiKazama 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I first played this is 1997 making stupid movies. I remember I didn't have a microphone so all dialogue was similar to McZee's Terror movie (just text). By the 2000s, I was using 3D text to build my own props and scenes and mainly used the black-only scene. I remember my brother and I making a montage of horror movies and replacing the villains/ghosts/zombies with the cat. I wonder if I still have it on one of the old PATA HDDs. Also I never used the Nickelodeon stuff because it was on a separate demo disc from the the main movie maker app. I didn't know how to combine it.

  • @Dalekzilla54
    @Dalekzilla54 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I need to get back into 3dmm again. I remember getting it to work on my laptop no problems, but it was permanently stuck in a window and couldn't get it fullscreen.

    • @ClassicEd
      @ClassicEd  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There's a 3dmm virtual machine on the 3dmm forums I used, it's preset up with extensions and extra content and works out the box.

  • @boonooboonoob
    @boonooboonoob ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video!

  • @KRAFTWERK2K6
    @KRAFTWERK2K6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be honest, i was giggling my ass off to the videos. Because i love the random silliness and funny ideas and such things will never not be funny :D

  • @Virtual_Citizens_Gaming
    @Virtual_Citizens_Gaming 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this Nostalgia trip.

  • @commenceun
    @commenceun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is not awful. This is culture!

  • @edwizard1
    @edwizard1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I could never figure out how to increase the speed of an object. So my movies always had comically slow-moving cars, etc

    • @rallyxfan1448
      @rallyxfan1448 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Frame by frame

  • @MBXfilms3D
    @MBXfilms3D ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Frame by frame. Frame by frame.....yes...

  • @CYON4D
    @CYON4D ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff.

  • @shockafter7
    @shockafter7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro, I could not figure out how to remove the text to simulate conversation without refreshing it to a new scene. Did it once, and all the example films had it. Bothers me till this day. The movies i made could of been more epic. Not really, but would of been nice xD at least i had fun with the microphone i guess.

  • @ColonelHess
    @ColonelHess 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good god, I thought I dreamed this

  • @Radiobush
    @Radiobush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also Future Ed is amazing

  • @SilentKnightBR
    @SilentKnightBR ปีที่แล้ว

    That's my childhoood. I play a lot, but i had only demo unfortunately

  • @azizabdul8914
    @azizabdul8914 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    grandpa already found the car keys

  • @Drew..0
    @Drew..0 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey Ed, this video has become one of my favourites here on the site. I was also wondering where to watch Burger Chase since i can’t seem to find it on youtube

    • @ClassicEd
      @ClassicEd  ปีที่แล้ว

      3dmm.com/showthread.php?t=56536
      It's too nsfw for TH-cam lol. Also looks like they're having trouble finding a video host that'll allow it at all

  • @Gugernoot
    @Gugernoot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    each totem on the pole is a representation of one family

  • @fracturedfingers
    @fracturedfingers ปีที่แล้ว

    God damn, I spent so many hours with this when I was a kid. That shit was wild. WTF

  • @Bruh-gw4jm
    @Bruh-gw4jm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice rat movie reference in the outro

  • @tedjammers
    @tedjammers 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "That was excellent" - great call back.

  • @SageGilbert191
    @SageGilbert191 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine if toy story was made on 3dmm

  • @heroinlover9000
    @heroinlover9000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ahaha diabolical delightment is fucking awesome. non stop (deafening) action those 19 minutes felt like a full 1hr movie

    • @heroinlover9000
      @heroinlover9000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh yeah and it's also incredibly fucking well-made. i went into it thinking it'd just be some dumb shitposty video and by the end i felt like standing up and clapping with how skilled the creator(s?) was(/were?)

  • @Radiobush
    @Radiobush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So 3d movie maker is an explosion simulator?

    • @ClassicEd
      @ClassicEd  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’m a one trick pony

    • @Radiobush
      @Radiobush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ClassicEd at least you have a pony

  • @ClassicEd
    @ClassicEd  ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What's your favourite 3D Movie Maker Movie? I think it's still got to be Diabolical Delightment for me. Watched it more times than I like to admit 😎
    Here's a few recommendations:
    Diabolical Delightment: th-cam.com/video/yGT2hlZJQL0/w-d-xo.html
    Litterbug 2: th-cam.com/video/tGXvJP7R8CI/w-d-xo.html
    Sgt. Steve: The Movie: th-cam.com/video/MYuRRgWY5b0/w-d-xo.html
    10-34: th-cam.com/video/6Iv4aknVaRs/w-d-xo.html
    Grandpa Stole the Car Keys: th-cam.com/video/PGJKeESLBpQ/w-d-xo.html
    Burger Chase: th-cam.com/video/BmeKMJXivbQ/w-d-xo.html
    Aaarnishoz: th-cam.com/video/bIKTc2RXXp4/w-d-xo.html
    Aaarnishoz 2 (unfinished): th-cam.com/video/RuOmcZhGup0/w-d-xo.html

    • @boneiy
      @boneiy ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn, burger chase is gone (account terminated) and I can't find it on the wayback machine or anywhere at all online.
      Edit: I managed to find the video eventually thru going thru the 3dmm forums with wayback, though it looks like the author may have intentionally deleted it off the 3dmm forums.

    • @ClassicEd
      @ClassicEd  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@boneiy Glad you managed to find it, it's a fairly unforgettable movie

    • @boneiy
      @boneiy ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ClassicEd yeah, it was certainly interesting, although I felt it would've been improved by being faster (leaves less time for jokes that don't land for a viewer to linger).
      Also, really liking your channel, discovered it thru this video and I love the topics and what you reflect upon. Couldn't be happier to have found it, really scratches a certain itch for me.

    • @NunofYerbizness
      @NunofYerbizness ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dunno if you've watched it yet, but I think my favorite 3D Movie Maker movie so far has to be _Blue_ _Shell_ _Incident._ While I can't deny Diabolical Delightment (and other 3DMM movies by Will and Chris) is a classic epic, Blue Shell Incident is one I'd say is a modern epic.
      th-cam.com/video/sUT2kKZeUpo/w-d-xo.html
      It may not be the most visually ambitious, it may not be the most gory, and it may not be over-the-top raunchy, but it makes up for it with a memorable cast of characters, quotable dialogue, well-executed visual gags, and an engaging plot inspired by the Metal Gear games. Made across 15 livestreams in the span of 15~ months, the overall quality of the animation and movement starts off pretty basic at the start, but it improves more and more as the film goes on.

    • @accordionskunk9710
      @accordionskunk9710 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rat Movie: Mystery of the Mayan Treasure

  • @trustycrusty1773
    @trustycrusty1773 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the movies is the closest we've come to this in recent years

  • @charlyholehouse-eyre8729
    @charlyholehouse-eyre8729 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah.... As a kid I made 'movies' in Microsoft PowerPoint... They were much worse than this and often involved sharks eating larger sharks.

    • @ClassicEd
      @ClassicEd  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sounds epic

    • @charlyholehouse-eyre8729
      @charlyholehouse-eyre8729 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ClassicEd at the time it really was, I just came up with the idea and me and my bro just made stupid things on it.

  • @CollynPlayz
    @CollynPlayz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can’t get 3dmm to install on w11 but it works fine on w10

  • @cash5627
    @cash5627 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I spent much of 1996 with my friend making movies on a 500mhz pentium computer. They where all every bit as asinine as you would expect.

  • @TallTapper
    @TallTapper หลายเดือนก่อน

    i agree

  • @Bruh-gw4jm
    @Bruh-gw4jm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    #mczeeforsmash

  • @CharlieTulip-xc6hp
    @CharlieTulip-xc6hp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:41 Nah I’m dead 😂

  • @dasarath5779
    @dasarath5779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good wabble gabble good video good fun

    • @dasarath5779
      @dasarath5779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      also i suggest you check simply confused and moderately confused. plus also check out some oldies on the forums themselves. some are not on youtube

  • @epicjava
    @epicjava 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can wait went hole video will be age restricted 1000x times

  • @Quaitdiwies
    @Quaitdiwies 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hungry Baby…

  • @dustingdustin
    @dustingdustin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you seen 10-34?

    • @ClassicEd
      @ClassicEd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I started watching it ages ago and never finished for some reason, and wow it doesn't even look like 3d movie maker anymore

    • @dustingdustin
      @dustingdustin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ClassicEd yeah, I threw pretty much every trick I could think of at that movie. I wish I knew how to do stuff like this at the height of the 3dmm community. Then again, no way in hell computers back then could handle it.

    • @ClassicEd
      @ClassicEd  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dustingdustin oh wow I didn't know you made it. Honestly one of the most impressive things anyone has ever made. Every time I think I've found the most impressive 3dmm movie something else comes along and blows it away. Kind of hoping 3dmm gets some renewed interest with the open source work going on.
      Sorry I didn't mention it in the video, I just hadn't come across it at the time. I was just watching things that popped up on TH-cam recommended feed as I worked on it.

    • @dustingdustin
      @dustingdustin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ClassicEd thanks, man! I’m hoping they’re able to add new functionality to the program at some point. It’s insane that there’s nothing quite like 3dmm out there. The learning curve compared to everything else is incredibly small.

  • @SammyNail
    @SammyNail 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You didnt mentions Rats by Jerma958 or The Blue Shell Incident by VineSauce Joel? booooo :P

    • @ClassicEd
      @ClassicEd  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sorry, I'm 31 years old and I don't know what's cool anymore

    • @rallyxfan1448
      @rallyxfan1448 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ClassicEdwhat does that have to do?

  • @CeilingCatMSM
    @CeilingCatMSM 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hungry hungry baby

  • @chatora3094
    @chatora3094 ปีที่แล้ว

    ヤク中の脳内。

  • @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
    @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sam Gay

  • @USDS_TikTok_Mike
    @USDS_TikTok_Mike 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This just unlocked memories long forgotten. I spent so much time playing this as a child.