I'll still die on the hill that Peter being so cringe is because he thinks that's what a cool badass guy is supposed to be and he's wrong because he's just a nerd with a big head
I'm a huge fan of Bad Boys. I've seen it multiple times and would quite happily watch it again. I turned off Bad Boys 2 during that freeway sequence cause I was bored. It's absolutely overstuffed.
Is that kind of an irony? I know guys who like this movie as it was like the first action comedy they were allowed to watch when they were boys, but as an Bad Boys fan from the very first one, I need to say although the second one is not a bad movie, it's probably the worst of the four, especially as the lengh was based on unnessecary and mediocre funny side plots.
I watched it for the first time last week. It dragged like a dog with worms. It seemed that...... ..... there was too many..... .....dramatic pauses for effect. Probably the worst Batman movie I have ever seen. (I won't lower myself to watch the one with Clooney)
@@Frink108 Probably could have cut out Catwoman as well. Actress did a fine job, but she could have been cut out entirely and wouldn't have lost much of the story.
"I don't want to explore core themes or listen to mesmerizing monologues! The first one was good because we like bang bang durrr shooty shooty dumb dumb stuff!" -morons who don't like the Matrix sequels
_Bad Boys 2_ was probably Michael Bay's therapy session after the disappointing _Pearl Habor_ . On the behind the scenes on the DVD, Bay even jokes "This is better than blowing up a battleship".
Calling out The Batman. It wasn't bad, but it would've been leagues better if it had ended an hour earlier. Nigma had a great plan and it was resolved. Then, hey, water scenes. Even when watching we were like, "why hasn't this stopped?" It was needlessly padded because they wanted more set pieces, the actual point of the villain be damned. Arin was right; the villain is good but the bomb supercedes it.
The plot lines that "Spiderman 3" would have had if they removed Venom and Gwen Stacy still suck. Who cares about Sandman and it sucks that Raimi retconned the source material and had Sandman kill Ben (when the Canon was that the theif at the wrestling arena did it). This reveal undoes the whole point of Peter's greatest lesson ("with power comes responsibility") as Peter blamed himself as he let the thief get away because the wrestling promoter wouldn't pay him and the same thief stole Ben's car and killed him. But if Sandman did it, it does that lesson, pisses on canon and also, Spiderman let the thief die, but if the thief didn't kill Ben, then Spidey let an innocent man die. Then Sandman does some sob story and Peter just forgives him? Just like that? He killed a thief for killing Ben but when Sandman reveals he did it, Peter forgives him? WTF! If Sandman revealed that to me, I would beat him to death. This wasn't studio interference. This was Sam Raimi's story idea and proof that the studio needed to step in because Raimi didn't have a clue what he was doing.
And to think Matrix Reloaded and Resurrection were meant to be just one movie but they decided to split it into 2, maybe they should have stuck with the original plan
No mention of Avatar on a list about bloat? Criminal. You could easily cut an hour out of either of those movies and they would still be okay. The movies are disgustingly filled with so much bloat of just purely scenic shots of the environment and not really much else. If you are at the theaters and watching it in IMAX 3D, its no problem because everything is so amazing to look at. But if you watch this movie anywhere else or in any other form, its just purely a waste and unnecessary.
I was once taught by my tutor that humans had about a two hour attention span and after that you need a break for a few minutes or your mind wonders and you don't focus as well. After two hours of a movie, your mind tends to drift elsewhere and it is no longer enjoyable and you think of other things instead. Most movies do not need to be any more than 2.5 hrs maximum. I could go through a lot of three hour movies and easily cut it back to two hours, and it not affect the plot whatsoever. A lot of time is wasted focusing on set pieces and useless subplots. Very few films NEED to be three hours or more.
For the most part true. That's why longer films used to have an intermission. A total exception to the rule would be Fellowship of the Ring as at the end of the 3 hours my reaction was, "It's over already?" even though I'd reread the books not long before the movie came out.
There's no such thing as a movie being too long in an era of binge watching shows and watching streamers talk for 5+ consecutive hours. Your patience and attention span are fried.
Both are certainly too much filler. But in (extreme) fairness, The Hobbit was mostly extended with material that already existed, minus Evangeline Lily's character of course. Granted, I only watched the 4 hour fan cut of the whole thing and even that had a decent amount of excess material.
I'll voluntarily watch the extended editions of LoTR (except for the scenes with Radagast) but good god, never again with The Hobbit trilogy unless someone puts together a fan edit that cuts out everything that wasn't in the book. I lost the will to live during the final Hobbit film and there was still 45 mins to go.
Also, LOTR: ROTK and it's seven endings sucked the life and excitement out of the movies/trilogy. The Batman also needed to be shortened to no more than two hours. I agree that the first hour of King Kong could have and should have been shortened to no more than a half hour. Once they finally made it to the island, it was good. I also agree about Pirates 3. The whole series really became too bloated for its own good and lost a lot of its charm. Having said that, I still like these movies but about 2 hours and 15 minutes should be the limit, regardless of one's attention span.
The Godfather Part 2 The Robert DeNiro Vito Corleone flashback segments were well done but the Present day Michael Corleone scenes didn't do It for me and I'm not a Godfather Fan In the slightest but what I'm In for with The Godfather Coda The Death Of Michael Corleone I'd be happy to wash my hands of Mario Puzo IP's but If I do catch 20th Century Fox's The Sicilian It's only for Christopher Lambert's Connor McLeod schtick In Italian face don't know the term for It
And the same again with Superman legacy. Mr terrific, green lantern, krypto and so much more Charakters which are just get thrown in without explanation and world building
@@Dastvi83 That doesn't explain how you can make a judgment about a movie that hasn't even been released yet. You said the characters are thrown in without explanation. The Suicide Squad is not Superman. Also, the characters in The Suicide Squad did get explanations. Maybe you weren't paying attention.
@@owie4070 whats the back story of all the charackters dying in the beginning? yes i didnt pay much attention because i got bored of the movie, which is not a good sign. Also we are speculating about a trailer. everyone says this movie looks great, are you commenting them too?
@Dastvi83 Why would you need back stories for characters who die immediately at the beginning of a movie? Doesn't the fact that they die right away tell you something? Ok, you didn't get back stories for those, but you did get back stories for the ones who carried the rest of the movie, right? Do you see the difference? Use your brain. Why would I need to respond to all of the other comments? Who does that? Is this your first time on the internet?
Directors have too much power these days and make longer films because it is self-masturbation of their greatness. It is almost like they want to stuff in all the things they want, alongside actually trying to make a coherent story.
I'll still die on the hill that Peter being so cringe is because he thinks that's what a cool badass guy is supposed to be and he's wrong because he's just a nerd with a big head
I love “Bad Boys 2”. It’s a ridiculous good time.
Honorable mention: Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
Totally agree on Kingsmen 2 and Bad Boys 2. They could've made them 30 minutes shorter each and still be the same movies, possibly even better ones.
What about the 4 hour Snyder cut of "Justice League"?
The child in iron man 2 was never retconned into Peter parker. That was always just a fan theory.
He was, the mask he’s wearing is even in Tony Starks office in DeadPool and Wolverine 🤷🏻♂️
Ivan Vanko was a superfluous villain. He doesn't have a strong backstory.
I have NEVER heard ANYONE have ANY complaints about Bad Boys 2.
Spend a lot of time in coma wards, eh?
@@joesjoeysive never heard it either
Sorry to say but yup, I felt Bad Boys 2 was way too long and awful, especially when compared to the first one, which was pretty much ground breaking
I'm a huge fan of Bad Boys. I've seen it multiple times and would quite happily watch it again. I turned off Bad Boys 2 during that freeway sequence cause I was bored. It's absolutely overstuffed.
Is that kind of an irony? I know guys who like this movie as it was like the first action comedy they were allowed to watch when they were boys, but as an Bad Boys fan from the very first one, I need to say although the second one is not a bad movie, it's probably the worst of the four, especially as the lengh was based on unnessecary and mediocre funny side plots.
The Batman should have been on this list. The movie ended and the film kept going for an extra 30 minutes.
I watched it for the first time last week.
It dragged like a dog with worms.
It seemed that...... ..... there was too many..... .....dramatic pauses for effect.
Probably the worst Batman movie I have ever seen. (I won't lower myself to watch the one with Clooney)
I agree. I enjoyed it, but it just wouldn't end.
I think they could have cut the whole drug storyline and just focus on the Riddler.
@@Frink108 Probably could have cut out Catwoman as well. Actress did a fine job, but she could have been cut out entirely and wouldn't have lost much of the story.
@@nivenfres agreed. I think they should have saved her for the second movie.
"Yeah, but World's End" brings it the whole overlong time.
The movie isn't too long; your attention span has been destroyed by the internet.
Welcome to editing.
Yes and no; pacing is a deal breaker.
No its not, like the other comment said pacing is also part of the movie n a part that many movies now a days are not that great at.
Weird take since movies have factually gotten longer on average.
Sorry, I got to 'The movie...' then wandered off to make a sandwich...😊
"I don't want to explore core themes or listen to mesmerizing monologues! The first one was good because we like bang bang durrr shooty shooty dumb dumb stuff!"
-morons who don't like the Matrix sequels
_Bad Boys 2_ was probably Michael Bay's therapy session after the disappointing _Pearl Habor_ . On the behind the scenes on the DVD, Bay even jokes "This is better than blowing up a battleship".
Calling out The Batman. It wasn't bad, but it would've been leagues better if it had ended an hour earlier. Nigma had a great plan and it was resolved. Then, hey, water scenes. Even when watching we were like, "why hasn't this stopped?" It was needlessly padded because they wanted more set pieces, the actual point of the villain be damned. Arin was right; the villain is good but the bomb supercedes it.
Because the ultimate point of the movie was how Batman was changed by the events in the story.
Yeah I think the whole drug storyline made it drag on. It could have just focused on the Riddler.
Bad boys 2 is great🤷♂️
For a few short seconds I thought The Mummy referred to - well - The Mummy!
I love Spiderman 3
Me too. I will never understand the hate it gets
Although not much of a DC fan, I really, really hope, James Gun watches this video as a warning...
The Batman with pattinson is better than I thought it would be however NOT a kid movie. Parental guidance suggested
Hollywood : `It works for our food, so why not for our movies ?` 😁
I wanted the dark universe to work so bad :(
The plot lines that "Spiderman 3" would have had if they removed Venom and Gwen Stacy still suck.
Who cares about Sandman and it sucks that Raimi retconned the source material and had Sandman kill Ben (when the Canon was that the theif at the wrestling arena did it).
This reveal undoes the whole point of Peter's greatest lesson ("with power comes responsibility") as Peter blamed himself as he let the thief get away because the wrestling promoter wouldn't pay him and the same thief stole Ben's car and killed him.
But if Sandman did it, it does that lesson, pisses on canon and also, Spiderman let the thief die, but if the thief didn't kill Ben, then Spidey let an innocent man die.
Then Sandman does some sob story and Peter just forgives him? Just like that? He killed a thief for killing Ben but when Sandman reveals he did it, Peter forgives him? WTF!
If Sandman revealed that to me, I would beat him to death.
This wasn't studio interference. This was Sam Raimi's story idea and proof that the studio needed to step in because Raimi didn't have a clue what he was doing.
Sorry, but I still think Iron Man 2 was a pretty good movie. Compared to Iron Man 3 it was a masterpiece.
Nah I like King Kong Long
All the Matrix films are equally whatever.
ring a ding a dong a king kong long - I think I heard that in a Chili Peppers song
I sometimes have nightmares and wake up screaming thinking about the rave in Zion
The Last Knight and Bad Boy 2 - were a fun time at the cinemas. 🙄
Leave them wanting more, not glad it's finally over!
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice should have been on this list
And to think Matrix Reloaded and Resurrection were meant to be just one movie but they decided to split it into 2, maybe they should have stuck with the original plan
Revolution not resurrection, resurrection is the 4th movie that no one remembers exist.
Lots of unneccesary sequels
Iron Man 2 was great 🤟🏻
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice and Frozen Empire suffered this problem. They had an assortment of characters and subplots, but couldn't fit them all in.
One of the "Lord Of The Rings" movies has FOUR endings when it only needed one and it could have cut the film by forty minutes.
No mention of Avatar on a list about bloat? Criminal. You could easily cut an hour out of either of those movies and they would still be okay. The movies are disgustingly filled with so much bloat of just purely scenic shots of the environment and not really much else. If you are at the theaters and watching it in IMAX 3D, its no problem because everything is so amazing to look at. But if you watch this movie anywhere else or in any other form, its just purely a waste and unnecessary.
Bruh you posted this like 5 years ago.
I was once taught by my tutor that humans had about a two hour attention span and after that you need a break for a few minutes or your mind wonders and you don't focus as well.
After two hours of a movie, your mind tends to drift elsewhere and it is no longer enjoyable and you think of other things instead.
Most movies do not need to be any more than 2.5 hrs maximum.
I could go through a lot of three hour movies and easily cut it back to two hours, and it not affect the plot whatsoever. A lot of time is wasted focusing on set pieces and useless subplots.
Very few films NEED to be three hours or more.
For the most part true. That's why longer films used to have an intermission. A total exception to the rule would be Fellowship of the Ring as at the end of the 3 hours my reaction was, "It's over already?" even though I'd reread the books not long before the movie came out.
Bro fell off
there are three supervillains in Spider-Man 3. it's not too complicated.
There's no such thing as a movie being too long in an era of binge watching shows and watching streamers talk for 5+ consecutive hours.
Your patience and attention span are fried.
Seriously, King Kong over The Hobbit trilogy? 🤔🙄
Both are certainly too much filler. But in (extreme) fairness, The Hobbit was mostly extended with material that already existed, minus Evangeline Lily's character of course.
Granted, I only watched the 4 hour fan cut of the whole thing and even that had a decent amount of excess material.
LotR was the only movie(s) worth being over 2 hours
I'll voluntarily watch the extended editions of LoTR (except for the scenes with Radagast) but good god, never again with The Hobbit trilogy unless someone puts together a fan edit that cuts out everything that wasn't in the book. I lost the will to live during the final Hobbit film and there was still 45 mins to go.
Also, LOTR: ROTK and it's seven endings sucked the life and excitement out of the movies/trilogy. The Batman also needed to be shortened to no more than two hours. I agree that the first hour of King Kong could have and should have been shortened to no more than a half hour. Once they finally made it to the island, it was good. I also agree about Pirates 3. The whole series really became too bloated for its own good and lost a lot of its charm. Having said that, I still like these movies but about 2 hours and 15 minutes should be the limit, regardless of one's attention span.
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The Godfather Part 2 The Robert DeNiro Vito Corleone flashback segments were well done but the Present day Michael Corleone scenes didn't do It for me and I'm not a Godfather Fan In the slightest but what I'm In for with The Godfather Coda The Death Of Michael Corleone I'd be happy to wash my hands of Mario Puzo IP's but If I do catch 20th Century Fox's The Sicilian It's only for Christopher Lambert's Connor McLeod schtick In Italian face don't know the term for It
"didn't do it for me" ... was it supposed to be made just for you?
And the same again with Superman legacy. Mr terrific, green lantern, krypto and so much more Charakters which are just get thrown in without explanation and world building
If you haven't seen the movie yet, how do you know they've been thrown in without explanation?
@@owie4070 because its too many charackters and he also did it in the suicide squad
@@Dastvi83 That doesn't explain how you can make a judgment about a movie that hasn't even been released yet. You said the characters are thrown in without explanation. The Suicide Squad is not Superman. Also, the characters in The Suicide Squad did get explanations. Maybe you weren't paying attention.
@@owie4070 whats the back story of all the charackters dying in the beginning? yes i didnt pay much attention because i got bored of the movie, which is not a good sign. Also we are speculating about a trailer. everyone says this movie looks great, are you commenting them too?
@Dastvi83 Why would you need back stories for characters who die immediately at the beginning of a movie? Doesn't the fact that they die right away tell you something? Ok, you didn't get back stories for those, but you did get back stories for the ones who carried the rest of the movie, right? Do you see the difference? Use your brain. Why would I need to respond to all of the other comments? Who does that? Is this your first time on the internet?
Every Jules video is too bloated for its own good.
And by too bloated, I mean any amount of Jules time.
Directors have too much power these days and make longer films because it is self-masturbation of their greatness.
It is almost like they want to stuff in all the things they want, alongside actually trying to make a coherent story.
How dare directors put things they want in THIER OWN CREATION 😡😡😡