13:00 mark Panzer I 15:00 mark Panzer II 17:25 mark Panzer III 20:35 mark Panzer 35t / 38t 22:00 mark Panzer IV 23:00 mark Self-Propelled guns including StuG Life 24:05 mark Antitank guns including the Flak 88mm 27:10 mark FRENCH ARMOUR BEGINS 28:15 mark French armoured support vehicles 28:40 mark French armoured recon/recce/scout vehicles 29:40 mark French equivalent to Panzer I (AMR-1 / AMR-35) 31:05 mark Hotchkiss H-35 and H-39 and one-man turret critique 33:55 mark Somua S-35 36:10 mark Renault FT (left over from WWI) 37:15 mark Renault D1 ("Super FT") 38:35 mark Renault D2 medium tank, unreliable, DeGaulle's tank of 1940 40:20 mark Renault R35 / R40 ("Godawful" - The Chieftain's verdict) 41:45 mark FCM 36 tank ("least worst of the two man tanks") 42:50 mark FCM Char 2C 43:10 mark Char B1 and B1 bis Heavy Tank , B1 vs Matilda II 46:00 mark French armoured doctrine commentary, "myth of penny packets", (See also Captain Billot's Wild Ride) 47:45 mark BRITISH ARMOUR BEGINS (spoiler alert - almost* all were destroyed in combat or abandoned at Dunkirk) 48:00 mark British armoured cars, two man tanks, and Universal ("Bren Gun") Carriers with warp drive, 110,000 built! 50:40 mark Matilda I, Mark VI tanks 51:55 mark Matilda II tank, 2-pounder anti-tank gun was effective for its time 53:30 mark First Armoured Division (UK) and British doctrine 53:45 mark The Cruisers - A-9, A-10, and A-13 tanks ("Good designs, poorly executed", the Liberty engine)
@@cissuperdroid th-cam.com/video/tFXZcC1xZnI/w-d-xo.html Be sure to check out Military History Visualized. He explains that the difference between Thug Life and StuG Life is "organization."
Not all British armour were destroyed as the 1st Armoured Division was shipped to France in late May and fought around Abbeville, thereby not getting caught in the "Flanders pocket". It was later evacuated in mid-June, most of its equipment intact, during Operation Ariel.
@@thexalon problem is C&Rsenal is still not finished with their run of WWI weapons which I believe they would really like to finish completely before they move on, but maybe when they're done
@@darthcalanil5333 Ah I haven't seen that series so this is the first I've personally seen of it so hearing that makes me even more excited! Thank you for letting me know this exists as well
@@---qg6nq You weren't listening! In the beginning Chieftain told you to go to the playlist hardware of WW2 for this channel ! Has all the Chieftain collabs!
The British Army in Hong Kong during the early 1950's really liked the Bren-gun carriers. They were all over the place, scooting around. Since there wasn't much of anything else around, just a few Comets and Crusaders, it looked like this was what an armored force looked like. In retrospect they might have been decent scout, or scoot vehicles (which is what you'd call them if you had Scottish accent).
"Whatever the paper specifications say about [quantitative number] values, real life tends not to care" This should be posted in every college classroom
I would love to hear your opinion about the Belgian armoured vehicles of 1940: the ACG-1 cavalry tank (8 in use), T-15 light tank (42 in use) and T-13 self-propelled anti-tankgun (254 in use + more in production).
The video is great! thank you for taking the time to make it. I do wish that the pictures could stay up longer while you talked about the vehicles though.
Yes, great information but would be worth going back and re-editing to keep the picture up while talking. I got tired of staring at the toy on the shelf and closed out the video.
42:42 Even with its extremely long boiler, a Union Pacific Big Boy still had better forward visibility than most French tanks. On the other hand, the Southern Pacific Cab Forward had excellent forward visibility and there was lots of room on top of its tender to mount a tank gun. Both engines were too heavy for European railway tracks so these potential super weapons were never tried.
The Europeans didn't have Mallets, but they did have some Garratts, a more versatile type of giant articulated locomotive which could handle steep grades and corners better than than Mallets.
I can't get enough of how most of my favorite youtube historians are coming together for this project. I hope Lindybeige and TIK come in at some point.
Both are overrated. Lindy however is a laugh with his 'The Bren beats the 'MG 1942' and 'the Sten beats the 'Schmeiser' crap which no one takes seriously while TIK is anohter story all together. One year ago I too would have recommended him to others (he is very good on technical arguments) and indeed I did but after his UTTER BS about 'Hitler was a Socialist' he went far further than merely being ill informed, which is forgivable, he reacted to those of us who gave him detailed arguments proving he was wrong by arguing against things WE DID NOT SAY. (The 'Strawman Argument'; proof you are dealing with someone intellectually dishonest). He is pushing a political agenda and yes he is a Jordan Peterson cultist!
@@vladdrakul7851 Lindybeige is a homer, but those points aren't invalid. Like he said, German weapons tend to get an inordinate about of respect among the allies despite the allies weapons withstanding the test of time better than the Germans for the most part. Ill give them some early war points. The 109 was the best fighter of the early war and the Panzer III was the best tank of the early war. Late war stuff though? Incredibly overrated. Actually I thought he most absurd homer video was when he was talking about the most effective weapon of the war. Also Hitler was a socialist.
@@jimland4359 You people are pushing a myth that no one believed in the past because they lived then and knew better. Only now when those who lived then are gone and the present generation of young live in a world of their own liking (Warhammer 40000; see 'Arch' ) that complete reality denial fantasies like yours become a meme that others confuse with reality. I am old enough to remember my family talking about life in England and Germany in World War ONE. I have a copy of a 1936 Mein Kampf given to my grandparents on their wedding day: You don't know anything about this while I am Oxbridge educated historian who does. I just finished writing an article on Swedish German connections in WW II and the main point is how Hitler needed MONEY from the Industrialists and aristocrats and got it for one reason only.The same one that made even Churchill positive about Hitler at the beginning. His movement was seen for what it was the ultimate Right wing movement made to CRUSH Socialism and unions completely. This is why the Americans got so involved like Henry Ford. And the more leftist Nazis (SA Röhm, Strassers) had all been eliminated in the Night of the Long knives in exchange for The Wehrmachts loyalty based on Hitler totalitarian destruction of all socialists and unions.They were the first into the camps. Which explains why today's racist and Nazis and fascists are on the RIGHT. Shit is so fucked up today that the PC 'Left' is also of the Right (now McCarthyist pro Imperial war Trans right advocate BS and for censorship imposed by the Oligarch's CORPORATE and Military Industrial Complex Based power while the real democratic socialist movement is under attack by our MSM (see Assange, Corbyn, Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard). The Right are the oligarch class Imperialist capitalists and they play identity games (racists vs PC). The real left are NOT PC or identity clones but are for HUMANITY, the many vs the very few. I am for liberty from government and Capital slavery as in the American Constitution and I even support Ron Paul even though he is right wing and might wrongly think everything in Europe was socialist when this understanding is a post 1950s American right wing one (Ie long after WW II) against a modern society that FDR had built with taxes they did not like. This has noting to do with what was going on in Germany after World War One and its very different culture and concerns. You understand none of these things as the Elite want you to be a tool and a mental serf which is what you are. Only you can change that. Free your mind and think and learn!
@@vladdrakul7851 " I have a copy of a 1936 Mein Kampf given to my grandparents on their wedding day: You don't know anything about this while I am Oxbridge educated historian who does. Weird flex, but okay.
@@jimland4359 Sorry If I was harsh but as someone dedicated to saving our dying democracy in an age of PC BS and Rightwing BS I need to use my knowledge to fight the ignorance being put out by liars who either are too stupid to know they are wrong or more likely know what they are doing because all this Race BS is the prefect tool of the Right just as the fake Left use their PC 'humanism' as an argument for censorship and their identity political anti nature (No genders anti family) BS.They are BOTH tools of the oligarchs to prevent any REAL opposition to the global Police state of lies and surveillance. See Assange, Snowdon, Manning, Greenwald, Tucker Carlsson, Pilger, Chomsky, Sanders, Corbyn. Tulsi Gabbard, Jimmy Dore, Ron Paul etc, Some left some right but all like myself united against the Elite who see us as cattle. Having a younger generation that think HITLER was a leftie completely prevents ANY understanding of either politics OR history, as is intended! It was not TIK's getting it wrong that enraged me against him (everyone makes mistakes; me too) but his DISHONEST cowardly response which PROVED he was insincere and full of shit. I was VERY disappointed because I had liked much of his work. He could have argued with us, or perhaps learned from us just as we learned from him on those thing he knows more. But no. He made up fake critiques we had NOT made to make it look like he was right and we ignorant. He clearly had no intention of being honest or open just like a politician. Then AFTERWARDS I find out he is Jordan Peterson fanatic and then I understood he is another oligarch backed propagandist pushing confusion and ignorance even while doing ace analysis of technical non political issues. I am being very fair here- I care about THE TRUTH. The same Truth that the Elite are killing real journalism and Julian Assange for telling. You should hate this too because it is in service of an elite who see ALL Of us as cattle to be milked and slaughtered as the solution to socialism that might strip them of their oligarchic power and solve the resource, environmental and over population problems in one 'final solution'.
Matilda I always looks like it has spent a night at a rough neighborhood in Detroit. Edit: Never realized it was Gruber giving me briefings all those years ago when playing Tie Fighter. :)
This format is a nice addition to the whole channel. However, if it were me, I'd work on improving delivery (no need for meta discourse, introductory pauses, arguing with themselves, repetition of the point already made) and inclusion of additional graphical material. I hope this feedback helps.
They were the most modern army in theory. Their air force was huge but in bad shape . The mechanized and tank division were "well equipped" aka a shit load of trucks. The navy was in good shape. The battle of France was lost due to political reasons like the France fascist fascinated by the idea of racial crusade against the bolsceviki and the crack in the front popule between Socialist and comunist all of this combined with the British idea of a moderate intervention contribute to the defeat of France in 1940.
@@giovannifontana1433 shut up, they got ran over by germany as usual...they were so scared they had to built a "maginot line" and still didnt save their asses from most embarasing military defeat of all time lol
@@belayzenica The maginot line was built to hold the germans at bay for 40 days to give France time to mobilize and fully turn their country to a war economy. It gave the French far longer than that, but political issues and several members of its high command intentionally making mistakes (I.E. the one in charge of the maginot/ardennes region having his troops near the ardennes and at the rivers abandon their fortified defensive positions and instead holding a line in the open fields 20 kilometers back instead of holding on a few more hours in current positions untill the armoured re-enforcements arrive to stabilize the line) in addition to limited use of available radio's caused the French defeat.
@@belayzenica also exactly how is it 'as usual' when of the dozens of wars the French have had with the germans, and their precursors the Austrians and Prussians, they lost (even counting WW2 which they eventually win) 4 and won all the other ones... which mentions nothing yet of all the other wars France had won throughout its history... Exactly what are you referring to here besides your own incapability of reading past the first page of a history book?
One interesting example of Germany's failed attempt to mechanize it's force was the simple cheap Krupp KFZ.70 light truck. It used a simple flat air cooled 6 cylinder engine powering the rear 4 wheels. I was small in that it could only carry two in a open cab and 4 more in back. Much of the uupper body was wood, which saved steel.And it was just large enough to tow a small gun such as 37mm. But it's air cooled engine like the Volkswagen used a lot of fuel for it's size, and the increase of size of German guns, basically ended Krupp's attempt to standardize a light German truck. But in Poland and France these trucks worked great.
So I'm listening to the stats on these "light tanks" and I'm thinking "that sounds awfully familiar--that sounds like the humvee I rolled around Iraq in." Which begs the question, how does an early WW2 light tank stack up against a modern M1151 or similar up-armored humvee? The way it's described, it sounds like the armor will stop about the same caliber of weapons, and they're both armed with a medium or heavy machinegun. The humvee has less offroad capability in mud and mire, but more speed on open terrain or roads. The humvee has better communications and better visibility. Seems like they'd be an even match??? Along the same lines, how would an early WW2 medium tank stack up against a modern AFV like the Bradley? How does a 2 pounder gun or a 37mm cannon from 1940 stack up against a 25mm Bushmaster?
When I look at early WWII tank specifications, I'm often struck by sizes similar to a modern Chevrolet Suburban. If you just look at the PzKpfw I and II tanks, Germany knocked over a lot of countries in 1939-40 with uparmored Humvee/Suburban equivalents.
When I look at early WWII tank specifications, I'm often struck by sizes similar to a modern Chevrolet Suburban. If you just look at the PzKpfw I and II tanks, Germany knocked over a lot of countries in 1939-40 with uparmored Humvee/Suburban equivalents.
@@utkarshchoudhary3870 Most of my historical reading is either from online sources with citations or the local library as either physical books or ebooks. Chasing dien and reading sources used s Wikipedia citations is a great place to start. Old books from Osprey Press and Ballantine's Illustrated History of the Violent Century are usually inexpensive finds, used.
Gruber's little tank. Fantastic. Although we never did get to see his driver Clarence.
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(The manager of the factory said) "He could make three SdKfz-8's *or five Panthers* ". Exclamation point! Exclamation point! I will never again ask why full tracked vehicles are universally used.
Yes! I'm old enough to know what you mean. And thank you. I was kind of wondering that. I don't remember it realy shown in the series that "my little tank" was actualy an armoured car.
This video is great, however, as a tall fella myself, nothing beats watching the chieftain getting in tanks.........and then trying to get back out again.
File transfers failed, Joram came down with the flu, The Chieftain had to go to the Army, everyone else was busy with the invasion of France itself... and so this video was three days late.
at 50:45 iirc arent british tank "regiments" more battalion/company strength units when compared to other nations which are sent out and banded together into brigades, EG the british having 50-60 tanks per regiment, while the Germans have 150-300 depending on when you are talking in the war.
51:39 Nine of the BEF Matilda II contingent were CS versions armed with the 3 Inch howitzer, capable of only firing WP & HE. At that time, only 12 CS Matilda II tanks had been produced.
Hey will you do an Inside the cheiftan's hatch for the Renault FT17 the museum of the american G.I. recently (about 4 months ago) finnished restoring one of the only ones in north america
Question chieftain is the auto focus, focusing on your monitor it is it my eyes lol. Absently love all the information as a model Wargames gives a lot of content. Keep up great work.
Chieftain is working with other equipment than we are, so things might look a little different than usual. We're working on improving his quality. And thanks, we will!
Great video as usual. Although I must say I was counting that you will cover armored vehicles of the invasion of Poland. I guess we can't get everything...
The only thing missing from this video to make it perfect would be a little Chieftain meets Sofilien flirting. I too can lay it on *thicc* but I love to see how they empower each other with flashing eyes and attraction energy.
I wish my grandpa and Cheftan could talk taks. Gramps was an Armoured NCO field promoted to Major in Korea commanding Shermans and then moved on to Centurions and West Germany.
I have seen "Allo, allo" multiple times, both in my native language and in english, and I must say that some of the jokes in the original didn't translate well. As a result it was like watching a whole new episodes of this great show :)
The little tank!!! Finally a puzzle piece clicks into the long existing gap of my WW2 German armor knowledge (not the only gap, to be sure, but still).😃
Hey, Nick. Is it possible to use the 221 with the 20mm cannon to loot famous Renaissance masterpieces? (Does the Fallen Madonna with the Big Boobies fit into the fighting compartment of Lt Grueber's "Little Tank")
I was looking at an article (tanks-encyclopedia.com) for the Char B1/B1 bis which indicated it had an ER53 radio telegraphy set which utilized Morse code only. I would think that Morse code (vs. voice) communications would have an impact on command and control. If this article is correct, were there other AFV during this period that also used Morse code radio sets instead of voice sets? Great set of articles btw. I'm learning a lot.
I'm 38 years old watching this I think 4 years after it was released. I think that's what it said. And I'm remembering growing up loving the history Channel as well as the military Channel and discovery wings and so on. Why were none of those Channels with all their resources able to create anything as good as a single tank enthusiast with his computer? Seriously lol. Of course there were a few good shows and series, wings of the luftwaffe is still one of my favorite series to watch or listen to before bedtime but for the most part TH-cam created content is better than anything I remember watching on multi million dollar funded Channels whose entire reason for existing was to create that content lol.
Thanks for the kind words, I suppose it comes down to the fact that we really don't have anyone to answer too. It is made by enthusiasts for enthusiasts, we don't answer to any sponsors or networks. It is purely passion driven. With the format of TH-cam and web 2.0 we are also able to directly engage with the community and learn what our viewers and members of the TimeGhost army enjoy and what they dislike allowing us to quickly shift gears should it call for it. It's more of a mutual creation between us and our TimeGhost members helping directly drive what is created over a strict TV schedule or appeasing any executives. Thanks for watching!
The radio setup for Germany was not as simple as “radio cars have radios and others don’t” First we have to differentiate whether a vehicle had a receiver only, or a receiver and a transmitter, sometimes called a transceiver. Next we need to recognize which type of radio, since some were used for broadcast orders to the team, some for messages up the chain of command, and others for communications with the Luftwaffe. A large percentage of vehices had at least a receiver, with transceivers becoming more common as the war progressed. “Wireless Communications of the German Army in World War II” on wikipedia has a lot of information on this. The dedicated radio vehicles were generally for long range communications. Short range radio units were used for intercommunication of individual vehicles and squads. The early radio armored cars were the SdKfz 223 (4 Rad), the SdKfz 232 (6 Rad), and the SdKfz 232 (8 Rad). In addition, armored units were equiped with soft skinned radio vehicles, such as the Kfz 2, 15, 17, and 19 for infantry comms. Then there were upper eschalon radio command trucks and buses, such as the Kfz 61, 68, 72, and 77. The SdKfz 223 had a FuG 10 transceiver early on, and a FuG 12 later in the war. The SdKfz 232 (6 and 8 Rad) had a FuG 11 transceiver, used for regimental comms. It all gets very complicated. One day I should put together a graph of all the inter-communications. It would end up looking like an internet WAN heat map.
To the basic armoured requirements of communicate, move and shoot I would add an obvious fourth: SURVIVE. It's the main reason why armour was armoured.
In the end it was useful The French did seem to have massive issues with their command Watch the latest WW2 episode for more detail (it is 20 minutes long)
Has anyone ever checked decibel levels on random tank rounds hitting a tank? If love to know the amount of a " significant event" each size of round is?
Does anyone know where to get an official history of the French cavalry during the Battle of France? The French cavalry divisions were partly mechanized/motorized, much like the US Cavalry between the wars. Where the US cavalry used light tanks and called them "combat cars" to avoid the NDA of 1920, the French cavalry actually used lightly armored and armed tracked vehicles, called "Auto-mitrailleuses de reconnaissance" (AMR) and "Auto-mitrailleuses de combat" (AMC). These AFVs were pretty equivalent to a Pz.I in mobility, firepower and protection. AMR 33 5 tonnes, 13mm max armor, 40mph, 1 x 7.5mm Mle 1931 MG (107 built) AMR 35 6.5 tonnes, 13mm max armor, 34 mph, 1 x 7.5mm Mle 1931 MG, or 1 x 13.2mm Mle 1932 MG, or 1 x 25mm CaC L/45 Mle 35 (200 built) AMC 34 10.8 tonnes, 20mm max armor, 25mph, 1 x 25mm CAC L/30 + 1 x 7.5mm Mle 1931 MG (100 built)
251 would stop most grape shot from an 18pndr 75mm so it was to a degree immune to direct fire anti personnel munitions machine guns to HE fragments 75mm>larger and deflect blast effects away from the men inside a .50 BMG or larger cannon it's done but low velocity shell fragments etc was fine
13:00 mark Panzer I
15:00 mark Panzer II
17:25 mark Panzer III
20:35 mark Panzer 35t / 38t
22:00 mark Panzer IV
23:00 mark Self-Propelled guns including StuG Life
24:05 mark Antitank guns including the Flak 88mm
27:10 mark FRENCH ARMOUR BEGINS
28:15 mark French armoured support vehicles
28:40 mark French armoured recon/recce/scout vehicles
29:40 mark French equivalent to Panzer I (AMR-1 / AMR-35)
31:05 mark Hotchkiss H-35 and H-39 and one-man turret critique
33:55 mark Somua S-35
36:10 mark Renault FT (left over from WWI)
37:15 mark Renault D1 ("Super FT")
38:35 mark Renault D2 medium tank, unreliable, DeGaulle's tank of 1940
40:20 mark Renault R35 / R40 ("Godawful" - The Chieftain's verdict)
41:45 mark FCM 36 tank ("least worst of the two man tanks")
42:50 mark FCM Char 2C
43:10 mark Char B1 and B1 bis Heavy Tank , B1 vs Matilda II
46:00 mark French armoured doctrine commentary, "myth of penny packets", (See also Captain Billot's Wild Ride)
47:45 mark BRITISH ARMOUR BEGINS (spoiler alert - almost* all were destroyed in combat or abandoned at Dunkirk)
48:00 mark British armoured cars, two man tanks, and Universal ("Bren Gun") Carriers with warp drive, 110,000 built!
50:40 mark Matilda I, Mark VI tanks
51:55 mark Matilda II tank, 2-pounder anti-tank gun was effective for its time
53:30 mark First Armoured Division (UK) and British doctrine
53:45 mark The Cruisers - A-9, A-10, and A-13 tanks ("Good designs, poorly executed", the Liberty engine)
Thanks for the StuG Life timestamp- the best one ;)
@@cissuperdroid th-cam.com/video/tFXZcC1xZnI/w-d-xo.html Be sure to check out Military History Visualized. He explains that the difference between Thug Life and StuG Life is "organization."
Not all British armour were destroyed as the 1st Armoured Division was shipped to France in late May and fought around Abbeville, thereby not getting caught in the "Flanders pocket". It was later evacuated in mid-June, most of its equipment intact, during Operation Ariel.
@@K_Kara Modified to "*almost". Thank you. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aerial
Thanks for the hard work, doing what most lazy websurfers wouldn't do for themselves.
wow indy looks really different this episode
Traded his phone collection for a desktop computer and a new accent.
Weird!
Doesn’t have his glasses on.
Its Dr. Indy's second iteration.....the Chair of Knowledge is a Tardis in disguise.
@Skodaman2 posh?
Indy? This is Not one of his videos guy
This video is gold, it should be put into a museum if only it was phisically possible
Lupo Astronomico put a usb containing this video in a museum
Why should this be impossible? I have seen many videos in many museums. A obvious candidate for this one would be the tank museum...
The History of The History of World War 2.
Library of congress?
Just focus on facts not soy decisions.... who cares about clothes judgement? You are the only 1
Now we need hour long ww2 special with Drachinifel to cover all sorts of naval shenanigans
I am sure drach would be up for that.
I would watch that instantly.
And air shenanigans
NO
YES THIS!!!
Darjeeling on the shelf never fails to make me smile.
"Gruber's little tank" - made me LOL , its been a long time since I have heard the Panzerwaffe's Campest officer mentioned.
they dont call them kampf wagens for nothing
Lt. Gruber: "I think I might shoot someone today in my little tank!"
'Allo 'Allo fans look out for 'Allo 'Allo fans.
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"Ze flashing bed knobs!" 😂 🤣 😲
Who remembers name of Gruber's driver?
Oh, and "It is I, Leclerc"
"Aight cool, an hour-long video about early war tanks from World War Two."
*Chieftain pops up*
"OH SHI-"
That's a good "OH SHIT", I know.
My reaction exactly.
I love this comment
I was like.. wait.. Chieftan? cool cool.
I love your cooperation with Chieftan, too bad that you didnt/couldnt cooperate with some gun channel (like forgotten weapons) or airplane channel
Comrade Sam There’s always time for them to do more collaborations in the future, hopefully they do more because this was good.
You know that this almost definitely will happen at some point, right? :D
For an airplane channel ask to Bismarck on Military Aviation History. That would be Mignificient.
Back in The Great War, there was a longstanding collaboration with C&Arsenal where they would go over the guns commonly used by the infantry.
@@thexalon problem is C&Rsenal is still not finished with their run of WWI weapons which I believe they would really like to finish completely before they move on, but maybe when they're done
French wouldn't be wortied about the Germans eavesdropping on their radio comms if they used Nord VPN.
Evilsamar this comment aged like milk.
Evilsamar nice 🔌 plug but is it compatible?
@@niksatt4843 Why? Nord VPN is still one of the best VPN services out there.
I'll stick with Thunder VPN this one's free and reliable
now they could play raid without worrying about being raided
"Since the Germans elected to serve, let's start with them" one of the best Chieftain lines yet!
"Soft and Squishy things that sometimes undergo significant emotional events" LOOOOOOL .....my word that's ALWAYS funny.
i am a simple man , isee a warhammer profile , i like
What is this a crossover episode?? Thechieftan collab with another of my fav channels??? this is amazing!!!!
He already did detailed videos about the different tank development history pre war for the different nations.
@@darthcalanil5333 Ah I haven't seen that series so this is the first I've personally seen of it so hearing that makes me even more excited! Thank you for letting me know this exists as well
@@---qg6nq You weren't listening! In the beginning Chieftain told you to go to the playlist hardware of WW2 for this channel ! Has all the Chieftain collabs!
OMG this must be dream! I come home from work and find almost 1 hour episode of this gold, thank you!
You're probably still watching, so enjoy the rest!
Just finished, had to pause and reverse couple of times that big fan I am for this content. Thank you so much!
This kind of documentary is awesome. To spend an hour on a specific topic like this is great. I so look forward to the Chief's videos.
Fascinating and nice to listen to, as always.
Thanks for this meal, Tank Jesus.
THIS IS AWESOME Chieftain is an excellent partner for any WWII armored warfare series!
The quality of these episodes is top fucking notch.
Not to be confused with the 1959/66 Chieftain MBT
This one is more reliable.
As is a rusted out Trabant
@@mpetersen6 Trabants dont rust. They are made with cotton and resin.
(Yes I know they can rust. I live in Zwickau)
The Allies wished they had the 1966 Chieftain MBT at the start of WW1
15 Million people do not die and WW2 does not happen
@@christiandauz3742 except that it would have broken down and then get stuck in the mud
The British Army in Hong Kong during the early 1950's really liked the Bren-gun carriers. They were all over the place, scooting around. Since there wasn't much of anything else around, just a few Comets and Crusaders, it looked like this was what an armored force looked like. In retrospect they might have been decent scout, or scoot vehicles (which is what you'd call them if you had Scottish accent).
"Whatever the paper specifications say about [quantitative number] values, real life tends not to care"
This should be posted in every college classroom
Meanwhile in northern France in the small town of Nouvion local café owner, René Artois, is busy getting ready to open...
@@tertommy "The fallen Madonna with the big boobs" by van Klomp!
@@TheCimbrianBull Dont forget the vase with the big daisys.
@@thunberbolttwo3953
ROFL! 🤣 😂 😅
@@TheCimbrianBull Club!
This is really an excellent summary. Hope Chieftain does something similar for every major theater/era of the war.
holy shit a whole hour of Chieftan on WWII channel. YUSSSS
I would love to hear your opinion about the Belgian armoured vehicles of 1940: the ACG-1 cavalry tank (8 in use), T-15 light tank (42 in use) and T-13 self-propelled anti-tankgun (254 in use + more in production).
The video is great! thank you for taking the time to make it. I do wish that the pictures could stay up longer while you talked about the vehicles though.
*As you talk about a vehicle, keep the picture up for longer than 1 second*
Yes that would a big help as you talk.
Yes, great information but would be worth going back and re-editing to keep the picture up while talking.
I got tired of staring at the toy on the shelf and closed out the video.
Super Quality Video for Clearly explaining all characteristics of Armored Vehicles of Germany & France in 1941
Glad you liked it
An hour long informative Chieftain video, great stuff.
Glad you like it! Just trying new things here.
I've been waiting for this for a LONG time.
Is it maxed at 360p for you guys too?
yep
That’s our reward for being early.
Good video. I've read that many German crews preferred the Pzkw 3 to the Pzkw 4. It was just more comfortable and easier to care for.
Great stuff. Thank you very much. I'm eager to watch as many of these as you can put together. Really enjoy it
Excellent talk, always happy to learn about tanks from the Chieftain!!
42:42 Even with its extremely long boiler, a Union Pacific Big Boy still had better forward visibility than most French tanks. On the other hand, the Southern Pacific Cab Forward had excellent forward visibility and there was lots of room on top of its tender to mount a tank gun. Both engines were too heavy for European railway tracks so these potential super weapons were never tried.
The Europeans didn't have Mallets, but they did have some Garratts, a more versatile type of giant articulated locomotive which could handle steep grades and corners better than than Mallets.
The cab forward were, unless my memory fails me, an Italian idea, so there may be less advantage to that than one might think.
Didn't expect a mention of the Big Boy in this video. I had the pleasure of seeing it in action a week ago.
I can't get enough of how most of my favorite youtube historians are coming together for this project. I hope Lindybeige and TIK come in at some point.
Both are overrated. Lindy however is a laugh with his 'The Bren beats the 'MG 1942' and 'the Sten beats the 'Schmeiser' crap which no one takes seriously while TIK is anohter story all together. One year ago I too would have recommended him to others (he is very good on technical arguments) and indeed I did but after his UTTER BS about 'Hitler was a Socialist' he went far further than merely being ill informed, which is forgivable, he reacted to those of us who gave him detailed arguments proving he was wrong by arguing against things WE DID NOT SAY. (The 'Strawman Argument'; proof you are dealing with someone intellectually dishonest). He is pushing a political agenda and yes he is a Jordan Peterson cultist!
@@vladdrakul7851 Lindybeige is a homer, but those points aren't invalid. Like he said, German weapons tend to get an inordinate about of respect among the allies despite the allies weapons withstanding the test of time better than the Germans for the most part. Ill give them some early war points. The 109 was the best fighter of the early war and the Panzer III was the best tank of the early war. Late war stuff though? Incredibly overrated. Actually I thought he most absurd homer video was when he was talking about the most effective weapon of the war. Also Hitler was a socialist.
@@jimland4359 You people are pushing a myth that no one believed in the past because they lived then and knew better. Only now when those who lived then are gone and the present generation of young live in a world of their own liking (Warhammer 40000; see 'Arch' ) that complete reality denial fantasies like yours become a meme that others confuse with reality. I am old enough to remember my family talking about life in England and Germany in World War ONE. I have a copy of a 1936 Mein Kampf given to my grandparents on their wedding day: You don't know anything about this while I am Oxbridge educated historian who does.
I just finished writing an article on Swedish German connections in WW II and the main point is how Hitler needed MONEY from the Industrialists and aristocrats and got it for one reason only.The same one that made even Churchill positive about Hitler at the beginning. His movement was seen for what it was the ultimate Right wing movement made to CRUSH Socialism and unions completely. This is why the Americans got so involved like Henry Ford. And the more leftist Nazis (SA Röhm, Strassers) had all been eliminated in the Night of the Long knives in exchange for The Wehrmachts loyalty based on Hitler totalitarian destruction of all socialists and unions.They were the first into the camps. Which explains why today's racist and Nazis and fascists are on the RIGHT. Shit is so fucked up today that the PC 'Left' is also of the Right (now McCarthyist pro Imperial war Trans right advocate BS and for censorship imposed by the Oligarch's CORPORATE and Military Industrial Complex Based power while the real democratic socialist movement is under attack by our MSM (see Assange, Corbyn, Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard). The Right are the oligarch class Imperialist capitalists and they play identity games (racists vs PC). The real left are NOT PC or identity clones but are for HUMANITY, the many vs the very few. I am for liberty from government and Capital slavery as in the American Constitution and I even support Ron Paul even though he is right wing and might wrongly think everything in Europe was socialist when this understanding is a post 1950s American right wing one (Ie long after WW II) against a modern society that FDR had built with taxes they did not like. This has noting to do with what was going on in Germany after World War One and its very different culture and concerns. You understand none of these things as the Elite want you to be a tool and a mental serf which is what you are. Only you can change that. Free your mind and think and learn!
@@vladdrakul7851 " I have a copy of a 1936 Mein Kampf given to my grandparents on their wedding day: You don't know anything about this while I am Oxbridge educated historian who does.
Weird flex, but okay.
@@jimland4359 Sorry If I was harsh but as someone dedicated to saving our dying democracy in an age of PC BS and Rightwing BS I need to use my knowledge to fight the ignorance being put out by liars who either are too stupid to know they are wrong or more likely know what they are doing because all this Race BS is the prefect tool of the Right just as the fake Left use their PC 'humanism' as an argument for censorship and their identity political anti nature (No genders anti family) BS.They are BOTH tools of the oligarchs to prevent any REAL opposition to the global Police state of lies and surveillance. See Assange, Snowdon, Manning, Greenwald, Tucker Carlsson, Pilger, Chomsky, Sanders, Corbyn. Tulsi Gabbard, Jimmy Dore, Ron Paul etc, Some left some right but all like myself united against the Elite who see us as cattle. Having a younger generation that think HITLER was a leftie completely prevents ANY understanding of either politics OR history, as is intended! It was not TIK's getting it wrong that enraged me against him (everyone makes mistakes; me too) but his DISHONEST cowardly response which PROVED he was insincere and full of shit. I was VERY disappointed because I had liked much of his work. He could have argued with us, or perhaps learned from us just as we learned from him on those thing he knows more. But no. He made up fake critiques we had NOT made to make it look like he was right and we ignorant. He clearly had no intention of being honest or open just like a politician. Then AFTERWARDS I find out he is Jordan Peterson fanatic and then I understood he is another oligarch backed propagandist pushing confusion and ignorance even while doing ace analysis of technical non political issues. I am being very fair here- I care about THE TRUTH. The same Truth that the Elite are killing real journalism and Julian Assange for telling. You should hate this too because it is in service of an elite who see ALL Of us as cattle to be milked and slaughtered as the solution to socialism that might strip them of their oligarchic power and solve the resource, environmental and over population problems in one 'final solution'.
Matilda I always looks like it has spent a night at a rough neighborhood in Detroit.
Edit: Never realized it was Gruber giving me briefings all those years ago when playing Tie Fighter. :)
Guy Siner was the voice actor?
@@TheChieftainsHatch Indeed. Didn't connect at the time, but certainly sounds like a more imperial (British), competent Gruber.
This format is a nice addition to the whole channel. However, if it were me, I'd work on improving delivery (no need for meta discourse, introductory pauses, arguing with themselves, repetition of the point already made) and inclusion of additional graphical material. I hope this feedback helps.
in the UK its Communicate,Colonise,Boil Tea
Who would win?
The combined millitary might of the most capable army in the world
or
Some speedy bois?
Why most capable army?French also lacked in so many things while they had huge surplus of tanks and field guns.
They were the most modern army in theory.
Their air force was huge but in bad shape .
The mechanized and tank division were "well equipped" aka a shit load of trucks.
The navy was in good shape.
The battle of France was lost due to political reasons like the France fascist fascinated by the idea of racial crusade against the bolsceviki and the crack in the front popule between Socialist and comunist all of this combined with the British idea of a moderate intervention contribute to the defeat of France in 1940.
@@giovannifontana1433 shut up, they got ran over by germany as usual...they were so scared they had to built a "maginot line" and still didnt save their asses from most embarasing military defeat of all time lol
@@belayzenica The maginot line was built to hold the germans at bay for 40 days to give France time to mobilize and fully turn their country to a war economy. It gave the French far longer than that, but political issues and several members of its high command intentionally making mistakes (I.E. the one in charge of the maginot/ardennes region having his troops near the ardennes and at the rivers abandon their fortified defensive positions and instead holding a line in the open fields 20 kilometers back instead of holding on a few more hours in current positions untill the armoured re-enforcements arrive to stabilize the line) in addition to limited use of available radio's caused the French defeat.
@@belayzenica also exactly how is it 'as usual' when of the dozens of wars the French have had with the germans, and their precursors the Austrians and Prussians, they lost (even counting WW2 which they eventually win) 4 and won all the other ones... which mentions nothing yet of all the other wars France had won throughout its history... Exactly what are you referring to here besides your own incapability of reading past the first page of a history book?
Love it when an Irishman says: Tanks! You're welcome!
I rly can't get over the fact that he's not American... xD
He is American. He just started out in Ireland.
One interesting example of Germany's failed attempt to mechanize it's force was the simple cheap Krupp KFZ.70 light truck. It used a simple flat air cooled 6 cylinder engine powering the rear 4 wheels. I was small in that it could only carry two in a open cab and 4 more in back. Much of the uupper body was wood, which saved steel.And it was just large enough to tow a small gun such as 37mm. But it's air cooled engine like the Volkswagen used a lot of fuel for it's size, and the increase of size of German guns, basically ended Krupp's attempt to standardize a light German truck. But in Poland and France these trucks worked great.
51:38 Fuente Estienne is the name of the rotating binocular fitted contraption, that the French used on some of their tank turrets.
Significant and emotional that is how I feel about this..... nice work.
I think the Matilda 2 was the best Allied Tank in the French campaign of 1940!
So I'm listening to the stats on these "light tanks" and I'm thinking "that sounds awfully familiar--that sounds like the humvee I rolled around Iraq in." Which begs the question, how does an early WW2 light tank stack up against a modern M1151 or similar up-armored humvee? The way it's described, it sounds like the armor will stop about the same caliber of weapons, and they're both armed with a medium or heavy machinegun. The humvee has less offroad capability in mud and mire, but more speed on open terrain or roads. The humvee has better communications and better visibility. Seems like they'd be an even match???
Along the same lines, how would an early WW2 medium tank stack up against a modern AFV like the Bradley? How does a 2 pounder gun or a 37mm cannon from 1940 stack up against a 25mm Bushmaster?
When I look at early WWII tank specifications, I'm often struck by sizes similar to a modern Chevrolet Suburban. If you just look at the PzKpfw I and II tanks, Germany knocked over a lot of countries in 1939-40 with uparmored Humvee/Suburban equivalents.
When I look at early WWII tank specifications, I'm often struck by sizes similar to a modern Chevrolet Suburban. If you just look at the PzKpfw I and II tanks, Germany knocked over a lot of countries in 1939-40 with uparmored Humvee/Suburban equivalents.
@@amerigo88 are you a historian?
If you are. Can you suggest some "affordable" readings in book form?
@@utkarshchoudhary3870 Most of my historical reading is either from online sources with citations or the local library as either physical books or ebooks. Chasing dien and reading sources used s Wikipedia citations is a great place to start. Old books from Osprey Press and Ballantine's Illustrated History of the Violent Century are usually inexpensive finds, used.
6:50 What did he said? "Five Panthers"?
Yep
I'm a simple man I see Cheiftain I like video.
Gruber's little tank. Fantastic. Although we never did get to see his driver Clarence.
(The manager of the factory said) "He could make three SdKfz-8's *or five Panthers* ". Exclamation point! Exclamation point!
I will never again ask why full tracked vehicles are universally used.
Fantastic video. Thank you.
Yes! I'm old enough to know what you mean. And thank you. I was kind of wondering that. I don't remember it realy shown in the series that "my little tank" was actualy an armoured car.
This video is great, however, as a tall fella myself, nothing beats watching the chieftain getting in tanks.........and then trying to get back out again.
Excellent accompanying to the weekly show 😎 splendid work team
thx
Chieftain the battle of France has already begun
File transfers failed, Joram came down with the flu, The Chieftain had to go to the Army, everyone else was busy with the invasion of France itself... and so this video was three days late.
World War Two Bit like French intelligence. Or German supplies.
@@WorldWarTwo Good old Allied Command!
Love this Upload, thank you so much!
Hearing Chieftain reference Allo Allo just made me so happy.
at 50:45 iirc arent british tank "regiments" more battalion/company strength units when compared to other nations which are sent out and banded together into brigades, EG the british having 50-60 tanks per regiment, while the Germans have 150-300 depending on when you are talking in the war.
51:39 Nine of the BEF Matilda II contingent were CS versions armed with the 3 Inch howitzer, capable of only firing WP & HE.
At that time, only 12 CS Matilda II tanks had been produced.
I wish you would leave the pic of the vehicle up during the whole time you are talking about it.
Cracking video
Glade your back
Glad you are back
Hey will you do an Inside the cheiftan's hatch for the Renault FT17 the museum of the american G.I. recently (about 4 months ago) finnished restoring one of the only ones in north america
Question chieftain is the auto focus, focusing on your monitor it is it my eyes lol. Absently love all the information as a model Wargames gives a lot of content. Keep up great work.
Chieftain is working with other equipment than we are, so things might look a little different than usual. We're working on improving his quality. And thanks, we will!
World War Two thanks for the quick response. Loving the content as avid history buff give me ww2 for 500 plz
Wonderful
What ausf’s of the Panzer II were involved?
Thanks, great video.
i heard a saying some time ago:
The Wehrmacht lost their best tankers in their worst tanks.
Great video as usual. Although I must say I was counting that you will cover armored vehicles of the invasion of Poland. I guess we can't get everything...
The only thing missing from this video to make it perfect would be a little Chieftain meets Sofilien flirting. I too can lay it on *thicc* but I love to see how they empower each other with flashing eyes and attraction energy.
I wish my grandpa and Cheftan could talk taks. Gramps was an Armoured NCO field promoted to Major in Korea commanding Shermans and then moved on to Centurions and West Germany.
"Listen carefully, I'm only going to say this once!"
I'm not even from Britain, and I saw those series dubbed, not in English original. XD
I have seen "Allo, allo" multiple times, both in my native language and in english, and I must say that some of the jokes in the original didn't translate well. As a result it was like watching a whole new episodes of this great show :)
ok boomer
@@druisteen Wrong.
I guess, you are usually wrong, judging by my previous encounters with this phrase.
@@TotalRookie_LV Boomer you are because you think like one
@@druisteen So you proceeded to persuade me, you are even dumber than I thought initially? OK, your goal has been achieved.
Is that the Fiersome White Rabbit top-left on the bookshelf?
M3 light tank Stewart. If memory serves... The is one at the American Legion post in Pe El, Washington State.
I'd like to see similar video about aircraft. There are a lot of forgotten aircraft from that era.
A great, great video history lesson!
Some Mark 1 did have a 20 mm in the turnet it was based on the Mark 2 frame
Great video, one point though No sdkfz 250 were in the invasion of France.
53:01 - oh bugger, that tank is on fire.
The little tank!!! Finally a puzzle piece clicks into the long existing gap of my WW2 German armor knowledge (not the only gap, to be sure, but still).😃
Indi sould do a top 10 at the tank museum, that would be a great youtube collaboration!
Already did.
@@t.w.a.i.n. sure? This is not indi (or is it indy?)
@@hetspook666 (Well it's a top 5 actually) th-cam.com/video/tp0e825grhM/w-d-xo.html
He did a top five.
You are right we need Indi!
Hey, Nick. Is it possible to use the 221 with the 20mm cannon to loot famous Renaissance masterpieces? (Does the Fallen Madonna with the Big Boobies fit into the fighting compartment of Lt Grueber's "Little Tank")
I was looking at an article (tanks-encyclopedia.com) for the Char B1/B1 bis which indicated it had an ER53 radio telegraphy set which utilized Morse code only. I would think that Morse code (vs. voice) communications would have an impact on command and control. If this article is correct, were there other AFV during this period that also used Morse code radio sets instead of voice sets? Great set of articles btw. I'm learning a lot.
It seems to me that these radioq allowed vocal eexchange on short range.
I'm 38 years old watching this I think 4 years after it was released. I think that's what it said. And I'm remembering growing up loving the history Channel as well as the military Channel and discovery wings and so on. Why were none of those Channels with all their resources able to create anything as good as a single tank enthusiast with his computer? Seriously lol.
Of course there were a few good shows and series, wings of the luftwaffe is still one of my favorite series to watch or listen to before bedtime but for the most part TH-cam created content is better than anything I remember watching on multi million dollar funded Channels whose entire reason for existing was to create that content lol.
Thanks for the kind words, I suppose it comes down to the fact that we really don't have anyone to answer too. It is made by enthusiasts for enthusiasts, we don't answer to any sponsors or networks. It is purely passion driven.
With the format of TH-cam and web 2.0 we are also able to directly engage with the community and learn what our viewers and members of the TimeGhost army enjoy and what they dislike allowing us to quickly shift gears should it call for it. It's more of a mutual creation between us and our TimeGhost members helping directly drive what is created over a strict TV schedule or appeasing any executives.
Thanks for watching!
Loved this crossover
The radio setup for Germany was not as simple as “radio cars have radios and others don’t” First we have to differentiate whether a vehicle had a receiver only, or a receiver and a transmitter, sometimes called a transceiver. Next we need to recognize which type of radio, since some were used for broadcast orders to the team, some for messages up the chain of command, and others for communications with the Luftwaffe. A large percentage of vehices had at least a receiver, with transceivers becoming more common as the war progressed. “Wireless Communications of the German Army in World War II” on wikipedia has a lot of information on this.
The dedicated radio vehicles were generally for long range communications. Short range radio units were used for intercommunication of individual vehicles and squads. The early radio armored cars were the SdKfz 223 (4 Rad), the SdKfz 232 (6 Rad), and the SdKfz 232 (8 Rad). In addition, armored units were equiped with soft skinned radio vehicles, such as the Kfz 2, 15, 17, and 19 for infantry comms. Then there were upper eschalon radio command trucks and buses, such as the Kfz 61, 68, 72, and 77.
The SdKfz 223 had a FuG 10 transceiver early on, and a FuG 12 later in the war. The SdKfz 232 (6 and 8 Rad) had a FuG 11 transceiver, used for regimental comms.
It all gets very complicated. One day I should put together a graph of all the inter-communications. It would end up looking like an internet WAN heat map.
great video
To the basic armoured requirements of communicate, move and shoot I would add an obvious fourth: SURVIVE.
It's the main reason why armour was armoured.
I'm first
I can now die in peace
Like France's expectations of the Maginot Line being useful.
RIP
In the end it was useful
The French did seem to have massive issues with their command
Watch the latest WW2 episode for more detail (it is 20 minutes long)
No I was first
the maginot line did its job the french command is the one thats broken
Not to me.
The focus on that monitor corner is stellar!
And now, sit down for the long lection from uncle chieftain. Good.
Any chance of covering the notorious German halftrack? They don't get much more iconic than that
9:09 that reference! 11/10 this whole video! :)
Has anyone ever checked decibel levels on random tank rounds hitting a tank? If love to know the amount of a " significant event" each size of round is?
In answer to the question, 3.7cm. L.46 PzGr.40 APCR = up to 79mm. of RHA @ 0 degrees @ 100 metres, according to the German Kummersdorf range tests.
ITS CHIEFTAIN *happiness noises*
360p squad
yaaaay chieftain video!
Does anyone know where to get an official history of the French cavalry during the Battle of France? The French cavalry divisions were partly mechanized/motorized, much like the US Cavalry between the wars. Where the US cavalry used light tanks and called them "combat cars" to avoid the NDA of 1920, the French cavalry actually used lightly armored and armed tracked vehicles, called "Auto-mitrailleuses de reconnaissance" (AMR) and "Auto-mitrailleuses de combat" (AMC). These AFVs were pretty equivalent to a Pz.I in mobility, firepower and protection.
AMR 33 5 tonnes, 13mm max armor, 40mph, 1 x 7.5mm Mle 1931 MG (107 built)
AMR 35 6.5 tonnes, 13mm max armor, 34 mph, 1 x 7.5mm Mle 1931 MG, or 1 x 13.2mm Mle 1932 MG, or 1 x 25mm CaC L/45 Mle 35 (200 built)
AMC 34 10.8 tonnes, 20mm max armor, 25mph, 1 x 25mm CAC L/30 + 1 x 7.5mm Mle 1931 MG (100 built)
251 would stop most grape shot from an 18pndr 75mm so it was to a degree immune to direct fire anti personnel munitions machine guns to HE fragments 75mm>larger and deflect blast effects away from the men inside a .50 BMG or larger cannon it's done but low velocity shell fragments etc was fine
+1 for the Gruber reference ! ;-)