Depends a lot on how much AOE your raid group does, the only 2 full st bosses are sikran and nexus princess. And so you can technically run full aoe talents on all the rest of the bosses, but if the pad gets destroyed youre better off taking ray with coldest snap in replacement of frozen touch.
great vid! would love an arcane Video, especially with the cleave build. I can't seem to figure out how to use arcing cleave in certain fights. or is there a site or something that can show you these things?
How do you know when to Flurry and also to use Glacial Spike effectively outside of the Ice Lance spam is what I'm not understanding? Is Splinterstoem a dot we put on him or a buff were gettinf?
I'm messing up my use of the Spymaster's web i think. About what stacks should i be looking to use it at, AOE and single target if they differ in stack count/use?
in raid generally you should just use it in the last 20s of your last icy veins. In m+ I'd just use it with over 20 stacks on a great pull, or 40 in lust.
I watched your video 3 times and still can't understand when to do what. And what's the new WA for and how to use it? You seems to proc the orb so often. Why can't I do it :(
I thought arcane was a bit on the complicated side, but I have no idea how you would play spellslinger without weakauras, I don't see how the base game could support this in any way and even then its finicky at best. Great vid Good luck in your prog!
Huge overview and gz on kill, but what actually means what u say on 12:20 about flurrying there, and why we are not using cms on st anymore in almost any situation
At 12:20 I had 5 icicles and then I flurried into GS. The correct thing in that situation is to GS -> Flurry -> ice lance consumes. Cms usage is heavily limited because we want to prioritize ice lance when winters chill is up because of the frequency of splinterstorms, so we never use it right after flurry, and only do it when splinterstorm is in flight and winters chill is down. But we are commonly casting GS there as well.
so at 3 stack of icicle... i normally forst bolt into flurry and the GC we dont do that anymore if we have 2 finger of frost ??? .... just fill it for 5 icicle and GC into flurry or BF ?
Its not, its good but you can 100% play frost. Does arcane provide some pretty valuable things? Yes. But frost is good enough. One of the things I dont think I highlighted enough is the only reason my dps was so high this fight is because of how geared I am, there was significant room for higher performance. Also worth noting I have 4 set and the other mage only has 2 set, though we both have heroic spymasters. 4 set isnt massive for arcane tho only like 1%.
if my WA isnt purple yet and all I have is fof. If the WA is purple then splinterstorm is coming and I would prefer to comet storm. Really its just following the priority list. Winters chill ice lance > Orb > shifting power > comet storm (if splinterstorm in flight) > GS
bro seriusly, im 606 ilvl with 4 pieces, i can do like 1.4m dmg single target as arcane, but as frost the max i can do on single target is like 700k, and i cant understand how i can get it to hit like you
@@Manather word yea mythic felt so far for me so i thought i wouldnt be able to relate but ill focus on the roations and try to learn from it appreciate it :)!
Feet is a good option for sure. Eventually you want your crafts to be on wrist/oh, but as we start the tier you want to balance that with slots that give higher value since they will be myth track earlier. Personally I probably will craft boots 2nd, because I have some nice hero track bracers.
How do you know when a splinterstorm is up? I can't keep track of anything related to spellslinger - It feels like a gamble on if you're pressing the right thing at the right time.
I'm 600 ilvl but only doing 550K on every boss fight. I don't understand How I'm so low.. I watched all your vids, my conclusion I'm not using my CDs right and abilities correctly?
same here, changed to arcane and goes from 500-600k as frost to 1.3m without efort as arcane, seriusly dont understand how this guy does so much dmg as frost
I acknowledge ur work but it's really hard to understand sometimes what you're saying cause ure swallowing ur own words and me not being native English speaker isn't helping at that point either...
Not sure why it got so much quieter like 80% in.
Bar Splinter WA: wago.io/8CtqknBAF/8
That bar splinter WA will be so useful, thank you great vid!
I have watxhed all the vids so far and guides on this spec and i still have no idea whats going on but it looks really really fun played well
Thanks, these guides and commentaries are really helpful as a new mage.
Love these kind of videos, Please keep em coming for mythic!
Oh yeah the return of my favorite frost mage who destroys raid bosses
Depends a lot on how much AOE your raid group does, the only 2 full st bosses are sikran and nexus princess. And so you can technically run full aoe talents on all the rest of the bosses, but if the pad gets destroyed youre better off taking ray with coldest snap in replacement of frozen touch.
great vid! would love an arcane Video, especially with the cleave build. I can't seem to figure out how to use arcing cleave in certain fights. or is there a site or something that can show you these things?
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How do you know when to Flurry and also to use Glacial Spike effectively outside of the Ice Lance spam is what I'm not understanding? Is Splinterstoem a dot we put on him or a buff were gettinf?
Like around 5:40 you said that was a bad flurry? I don't understand why it was "bad"?
I'm messing up my use of the Spymaster's web i think. About what stacks should i be looking to use it at, AOE and single target if they differ in stack count/use?
in raid generally you should just use it in the last 20s of your last icy veins. In m+ I'd just use it with over 20 stacks on a great pull, or 40 in lust.
Do you have any video on your rotation? Thanks!
I watched your video 3 times and still can't understand when to do what. And what's the new WA for and how to use it? You seems to proc the orb so often. Why can't I do it :(
same here! still does not make sense to me lol
I thought arcane was a bit on the complicated side, but I have no idea how you would play spellslinger without weakauras, I don't see how the base game could support this in any way and even then its finicky at best. Great vid Good luck in your prog!
Huge overview and gz on kill, but what actually means what u say on 12:20 about flurrying there, and why we are not using cms on st anymore in almost any situation
At 12:20 I had 5 icicles and then I flurried into GS. The correct thing in that situation is to GS -> Flurry -> ice lance consumes. Cms usage is heavily limited because we want to prioritize ice lance when winters chill is up because of the frequency of splinterstorms, so we never use it right after flurry, and only do it when splinterstorm is in flight and winters chill is down. But we are commonly casting GS there as well.
Can u share the predictive splinterstorm WA please? Very nice vid!
wago.io/8CtqknBAF/8
so at 3 stack of icicle... i normally forst bolt into flurry and the GC
we dont do that anymore if we have 2 finger of frost ??? .... just fill it for 5 icicle and GC into flurry or BF ?
keep the good work mate
Frost is literally dead last on the latest logs I saw..Do you think they'll get buffed within the next week?
4p spymasters web, ok dude.
im 4pc spymasters from heroic ansurek 616 ilvl, what u sayin bruv
It’s crazy that arcane sunfury seems like the only viable mage build
Its not, its good but you can 100% play frost. Does arcane provide some pretty valuable things? Yes. But frost is good enough. One of the things I dont think I highlighted enough is the only reason my dps was so high this fight is because of how geared I am, there was significant room for higher performance. Also worth noting I have 4 set and the other mage only has 2 set, though we both have heroic spymasters. 4 set isnt massive for arcane tho only like 1%.
Problem is how hard it's to play well compared to arcane trying to preshot cast into splinterstorm is hard
@@benjaminblace5459 sunfury is not that easy to play. Frost is literally Icelance spam with unlimited movement
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So how do you decide “ hey I’ll throw a glacial spike in here?”? When you know you don’t have a splinterstorm coming or?
if my WA isnt purple yet and all I have is fof. If the WA is purple then splinterstorm is coming and I would prefer to comet storm.
Really its just following the priority list.
Winters chill ice lance > Orb > shifting power > comet storm (if splinterstorm in flight) > GS
@@Manather alright appreciate it mate. I’m so used to the DF play style so need to get rid of those habits.
Amazing job mate. Can you go over that weakaura that is a bar right over your character. Thanks for all the info!
wago.io/8CtqknBAF
Predicts splinters, also shows estimated travel time of splinterstorm, but had it covered in this vid
bro seriusly, im 606 ilvl with 4 pieces, i can do like 1.4m dmg single target as arcane, but as frost the max i can do on single target is like 700k, and i cant understand how i can get it to hit like you
Has been ~3 weeks since the video have you changed up anything significant from rotations shown in this video?
My ability to play the rotation has improved, can see the sikran video for that
@@Manather word yea mythic felt so far for me so i thought i wouldnt be able to relate but ill focus on the roations and try to learn from it appreciate it :)!
When is the best time to use spymasters web genrelally?
what do you think is second craft item for frost? maybe feet with double embelishment power?
Feet is a good option for sure. Eventually you want your crafts to be on wrist/oh, but as we start the tier you want to balance that with slots that give higher value since they will be myth track earlier. Personally I probably will craft boots 2nd, because I have some nice hero track bracers.
is the purple splinter tracking bar included in the all buffs weakaura set? i've used the set but i don't have that one
It is not, mine isnt up to date and its still a little buggy.
@@Manather link it if it's possbile, i have no other way to see if the chill from splinters will proc
How do you know when a splinterstorm is up? I can't keep track of anything related to spellslinger - It feels like a gamble on if you're pressing the right thing at the right time.
When my snowflakes turn purple it is about to be in flight.
Can we also get some sunfury arcane recaps and commentaries please
I don't see this green-> purple bar anywhere mentioned, but It seems like it's tracking splinterstrom right ? Where to get it ?
Yeah didn't see that in the packages mentioned
just got one question , isnt it better to get something else then glacial spike?
Theres nothing else to take, the only options are frostbolt talents or freeze talents, neither of which do anything for spellslinger.
Amazing
is there any video you explain what the combo WA show and how to make use of it?
the combo WA is just an accurate depiction of when you get fof with multiple orbs out.
I'm 600 ilvl but only doing 550K on every boss fight. I don't understand How I'm so low.. I watched all your vids, my conclusion I'm not using my CDs right and abilities correctly?
same here, changed to arcane and goes from 500-600k as frost to 1.3m without efort as arcane, seriusly dont understand how this guy does so much dmg as frost
hiii cant see the last wa for the splinterstorm where i can find it ?
wago.io/8CtqknBAF/8
what is the wa for the splinterstorm proc?
the one with green bar that turns purple
is it possible to do this kind of damg with frost/fire ?
no
@@Manather okay thank you :)
manather > choechoi
How come you were able to cast Glacial spike while moving at 5:46
I'm talented into ice floes, its a choice node with shimmer
that Guap guy is really bad lol
I acknowledge ur work but it's really hard to understand sometimes what you're saying cause ure swallowing ur own words and me not being native English speaker isn't helping at that point either...