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- Sharing a simple technique that is preeeeeetty much necessary to play most first person shooters well.
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Quite in interesting and thorough analysis of your own gameplay, I really like these videos you make when you overview your play. They are quite educational as well as entertaining, this is why I subbed as well as for your general opinion on 'Better Gaming'.
+Alexander Eriksen Glad you enjoy them! Self-analysis is pretty important to player growth, and even though most of it is kind of happening on the fly, when I actually sit down and dissect clips like this, I can sometimes find new things that I wouldn't have noticed otherwise.
not "as well"... "as wrel" badum tsss
+Wrel Wrel, I'm a dedicated Planetside 2 player on the PS4, a member of RaTL (disbanded now, although that's aside from the point), but recently, the player base for the PS4 version of the game has been sort of...dying out. Myself and a few other former members of the outfit have been trying to brainstorm ways of getting the game a bit more publicity, but we haven't quite been able to think of anything that would really work. So, would you be able to think of anything, and/or promote it on your channel? My apologies if that last bit sounds a tad too forward.
+JJ Flame look up ely auxaris on TH-cam. It is an awesome video which can help recruit more players
+JJ Flame Thats why I gave up on consoles years ago. Communities dont stick around. Console players generally play whatever new game is out. The only place to find active communities to your old favorite games is on PC.
These techniques and tactics videos are INCREDIBLY useful for those of us who are new to Planetside 2 and looking to improve - thank you so much!
+TheRefudiator Glad it's useful in some way!
I love your near frame by frame analysis. It is incredible to witness that almost calculated instinct. I think that there is a lot I can learn from more videos like this.
I love using fast paced and aggressive techniques like this. Just so satisfying when it pays off.
Hey wrel folks here
great video
Killing someone who is chasing you after doubling back on them has to be one of the best feelings.
You feel like you 100% outplayed them, it's definitely a favourite tactic of mine when the situation is right.
I've been playing for a long time now, using this tactic for quite a while to great success! I reluctantly accept that we should inform the noobies of new tactics, thanks for levelling the playing field wrel!
The Last kill streak was amazing.
+Chris G lol, Butcher is a pretty nasty toy.
+Wrel strongest directive lmg.
You've done the TR proud today!
+Wrel Haha I was literally going to ask what weapon that was before I saw this. Thanks ;)
+dracokev nununu... betelgeuse
Walking slowly when you can run but don't really need to is one of the coolest feelings in the game.
wrel thanx for this vid. I hope you can do these more often. In the 50% of us who actually use tactics rather than the 50% who go into a base guns blazing, these are pretty smart tips. Another form of doubling back is going the opposite direction, where your target does the same. You either catch them with their back towards you (because they followed yu and you made a loop) or you catch them head on, and they don't anticipate you. Its really satistfying :3
Ah I just have to say that you have one of the nicest voices I've ever heard. Sounds so smooth it's amazing haha. I could listen to you all day.
Its amazing how this concepts take a huge part in melee combat based games, feinting, for example, forces you to adapt to every milisecond if you want to be reliable.
*cough* chivalry medieval warfare *cough*
M&B, cough, WoTR, cough, Exanima, cough, cough, cough
COUGH!
TTK versus Lag Compensation is one of your best videos.
Resto nades are so awesome, they're a really under-rated force multiplier that can easily break stalemates when used correctly.
A really nice, but tricky to pull off variant of this is what I like to call a figure-6. You essentially run away past some piece of cover that you run around in a complete, then you circle around it. Timed correctly, you can bait them into chasing, and then ambush them from behind a few moments later. Harder to setup but man does it payoff when well executed.
I still remember when this tactic was first introduced to me, back when I first got Halo 3.
"If someone shoots you, run around a corner and then double back on them. They'll be reloading, and you'll get the kill."
I still fall for it.
at 3:32 he thought all that in a fraction of a second.. MIND BLOWN
+Wrel Re: Latency Advantage,
Nope you're using it 100% correct, but I think you're also rolling the concept of "Reaction Time Delay" into it rather than treating it as its own thing. Not only do they have to mechanically see you, they have to cognitively recognize this and that effect is exaggerated by the unexpected nature of the action.
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This game looks like so much fun when watching you play but damn it's frustrating for me as a BR10 player.
+Jamal Tillett I know that feel. I've been in since launch and am BR 37 (I haven't played for months at a time and I'm not big into online gaming but still) I feel stuck. Having a computer that hardly runs the game doesn't help either.
+TheVapour's Place you been in since launch and your BR 37?????
I don't play very often :)
+Skarmx2 I like to play rock music and stuff, anything to get me hyped into an NC berserker rage. It can work wonders.
I quiet don't agree with you statement at 3:44
You can finish your reload by running behind the second box in front of you. Note that the enemy had to slow down to open fire AND has his shield up which means he is critically slowed while you are sprinting, which gives you the time to get behind the second box in front of you. There you can finish the reload, wait a second and jump him the same way you did here with the sidearm.
BUT
The problems with these sidearm switches is that in general sidearms do less damage, and unlike most main weapons, they are not automatic. So you have a bigger chance to miss a couple of critical shots which are crucial on taking that kind of opponent down. This is just an statement for regular players that are not really able to quick react like you did here, you landed each shot on the head which is amazing by the way.
+Intreducor to be fair though, part of the advantage of doubling back immediately there is that the other guy does not expect it, and he does not have time to properly consider the situation.
if Wrel instead break off temporarily to finish reloading, the other guy would realize when he round the corner and not find him there that he is missing... and there's a chance there that he might become more guarded when he tries to find him on the next corner...
ppl tend to be careless when they see a chance and rushed to snap it...
when they don't see it anymore however or when they see unexpected things then they tend to start thinking which is bad...
+Iono Sama (IonoTheFanatic) usualy people would turn the other way expecting the enemy will go around and intercept them, happened to me countless times and I am doing the same. Wrel did a great job, its just we know that the avarage PS 2 player has 20% accuracy, and most likely not so fast reflexes.
well if the other guy turned the other way, you catch him not looking at you, which is great... rip his head off...
if he is not and is chasing you then you still get the advantage in that it takes him longer to ready his weapon and aim compared to you so you still stand a pretty good chance to kill him as long as he is predictable ie: you can pre aim where he should be as you round the corner...
if he is not chasing you either and instead was waiting with his gun ready... well then you are kinda screwed either way...
what i usually find is that more ppl will fall into the 2nd category in the short amount of time following the start of an encounter, which i suspect is because ppl (including experienced players) tend to follow their impulse initially...
then the longer the encounter drags... ppl start acting differently... the idiots continue chasing like headless chicken relying on pure reflex basically...
but the one with a bit more experience usually start thinking and assessing situations especially when things didn't go so well... and their impulse start winding down... and this is the kind of players that usually becomes troublesome so i find that usually springing the trap before they get the chance to think gives me a safer outcome overall... since you get a more predictable enemy.
well said :)
Dat Butcher killstreak at the end doe.
Very excited to try this out in my games. I am almost hopelessly bad at combat in this game
Technique and Tactics! This is AMAZING. I have always been curious about crouching, can you make a video explaining how to and when to use it ? Thanks :)
thanks for the awesome tips wrel! I'd love to see more of tactical tips and tricks like this. maby you could do some tactics for specific classes! idk just an idea :)
^ this.
+EcNiV Gaming Worth looking into, I'll keep it in mind. Thanks much!
Doubling back is an LA's dream. Either hit them first, or surprise them second! (Also, latency was used correctly, since you have network latency buying additional time.)
i been gone for a few months, ill be playing planetside 2 around christmastime.. c: im excited and i know i have missed a lot
I'm not a very good player, but this is a strategy i use all the time and it works... to a surprising degree.
(ie: i get confused as to how i'm getting kills)
thx for the tip on why it's been working so well, ah i've been catching them sprinting!
You should make a video on peaking around corners when you got time. One mistake I notice rather often is that people turn around a corner too fast, exposing themselves to multiple targets. Not only that they're going to be exposed for some time.
While its not useful in every situation to slowly go around corners its very good for securing point rooms and buildings.
EDIT: Nevermind, you already made a video regarding this :P
+ZillerSplat :P
"So this guy dies...whatever." 😂😂 i laughed harder than i should have.
Been a while since this video, but what i would like to add is latency could be a big problem, one of the times i was playing ps2, suddenly people start freezing and/or teleporting, so what i did is i walked up to one of the enemies, looked at them dead in the eye without them reacting, and shot them, after 30/40 seconds it counted as a kill without me resulting in a death, the game imo has to remove client side hit detection.
You know what would be a great idea for a new continent? A water continent where islands had bases on them and there could be naval combat.
+wrel Definitely keep doing these Tips and tricks videos they really help, btw whats your thoughts on noobs in the game?
I have been burned so many times by chasing people I refuse to follow anyone who is retreating away from where I am going now. Either I attack, or they come into my sights. Offcourse, If I am defending a sunderer I run towards them as an idiot, just to let them focus at me instead of doing something clever.
Oh how many times have I not been dancing in front/on top of enemy tanks with no AV weapons just to make them shoot at me instead of the sundy.. BTW the Archer is a good distraction tool. "pling! pling! look at me!"
just spray the corner as you follow them. avoid sprinting at all costs. and also either crouch or aim at knee level if you can because sometimes the more crafty ones like myself will be crouched. you will miss every shot on such a person if you aim straight.
Daniel Cannata Perhaps when I play TR, but as VS main I usually do not have enough bullets in a mag to spare unless I use a lasher. And I am not big on everyone knowing where I am and getting unwanted attention on me either. Offcourse, unless lasher, but then I am a big noisy flashy target no matter what.
I'm interested in your usage of resto kits as opposed to medkits and healing grenades. Any chance of talking a little bit about that in a future video Wrel?
+John D A It's really only good for cover fighting, when you're peeking in and out. 500 health pool just goes by too quickly to be useful, so probably won't cover it in a video until Restos and/or Healing Grenades receive some sort of buff.
+Wrel That makes sense. But it's still interesting to see alternatives to the usual medkit tanking.
You used to describe yourself as a low-aim player but I don't think that is being fair to yourself at this point.
Damn your aim is on point!
I'm Jelly of you :)
if only I wasn't in school, then I would love to make my version of an improved Planetside 2.
Great video Wrel, but what are your plans for branching off to other games when Planetside wont suffice?
omg for once you got Latency right! Good job Wrel :P
The only "tactic" now in this game is to stack two platoons against no resistance all the way to the enemy warpgates. The only thing that matters is stacking as many players as a team can against 0 resistance for hours on end. This is the best this game can get now, and it's the way that the game is built to be played. You don't need to know lag compensation, peek, leading, or any of that. You need to know how to pull sundies, shoot HE weapons at spawn rooms, and stand on points. That's it, that's the penultimate of planetside now.
If you run into any resistance you just need to tell your platoons to redeploy and get on a lattice on an unpopulated continent so you can "win" the game the way it is intended to be played.
I'm glad someone else acknowledges the problems with the games core design. I love the game, but winning for the sake of winning is just no fun.
True, that's why I usually just completely ignore all that and go to more fun medium sized fights or whatever. And occasionally there will be a fun fight with a ton of tanks in each side over a large area
We were even able to hold a point against 70% enemy pop.
And today we got the Crater on Indar against 60% pop, and they even acknoliged that they were more than us.
So with a team that can work together you can stop a bigger force to a certain degree.
+vmlinuxz Sorry, but if you honestly think that that's the way to play this game, then the joke's on you.
Another Quality pro tips video by Wrel.
There is a large audience for shooter tips'n tricks. If you want to broaden your audience this sortta stuff might be the way.
this guys dies "whatever"
Made me lol
Could this technique be used for counter sniping (ducking behind a corner then peaking around to quick scope a scarecrow), and do the same principles apply to peaking out of cover from a crouch to a stand?
In the army it's called slicing the pie.
creampie
isn't that for going in doorways?
Lol no its for every situation... fyi stay away from door ways - how far back can you be with the same potency.
Yeeeeaaah 1:05. [PHX] mah boi!
Yo Wrel, how come that your game still looks so great? I cant seem to get these "true ultra" settings to work anymore :/ Haven't played for a year now, so many things may have changed, would be cool if you could tell me how you got your game to look this good :)
Great video wrel!
hey Wrel, what camp were you using on the carnage ar / gd22 during the second clip?
Good video, but I think the latency advantage statement is wrong. If both use the same gun, and the latency is equal to the time between rounds, the enemy will see you one round later in "real time". However the opponents client will also delay the character death by one round after the moment the character got hit at your client, allowing the opponent to fire another round after the character should be dead. This shouldn't strictly give either side an advantage if one side is peeking out. However, both characters being awarded a death and a kill is usually better for the less good player, who is more likely to die first and get the last dead mans shot.
Great video wrel !! thanks for everyvideo
Swinging your knife is the fastest combat action? It seems incredibly slow and awkward to me. Anyways, thanks for the tip!
hmmm....I will have to incorporate this into my PWB vids...
Doubling back is a technique that I always use as an infiltrator. I even expand this techniques with the cloak. I time my double back plus I uncloak and with both coupled together I already have the enemy zeroed in and I fire usually ending with an instant kill with a CQC bolt action rifle. Unfortunately from the other side it looks like I'm abusing lag and from the inexperienced player's it looks like an aim-bot. At the end of the day it comes down to reducing your own reaction times by milliseconds and once you've reached a point where you can't really reduce your reaction times, the alternative is to increase the reaction time of your opponents.
+DarSin Well said.
+DarSin I used the noob version of that when i was stil playing basicaly I just cloak and crouch after breaking line of sight wait for the dude to pass by and shoot him in the back it was surprisingly effective.
That's still works haha! Though against better players that have a keen eye its much more difficult a crouched infil isn't invisible.
DarSin it's close enouf to it that it's more a matter of luck than skill.
I thought they changed knife hit detection a while back when they implemented wield-able knives? I thought that it used to be instant, but now did damage a quarter/half second later?
Or was that only for actually wielding it instead of quick-knifing?
+Zac C Yeah, quick-knifing with default knives is instant. But ANY wielded knife as well as a quick-knife with a Power Knife always has a delay before damage hits. Did a review of Power Knives a while back, and it talks about the differences between standard knives as well, if you're interested in giving that a look.
wow I should consider using this. I wonder how this will work with stalker.
Great vid as always. Happy subscriber :)
What was the hit-reg stuff in the chat box? I've never seen that before; some kinda add-on/mod?
+Giles Rafol My account has some admin flags so that I can use the Observer Cam, but it shows the error messages as well. The ones about weapon refire times don't actually impact your play, at least according to the folks I've asked.
Hey wrel and anyone else that has had this problem frequently and knows a way to deal with them but i have a really hard time fighting heavy assaults they are the class that makes me the most pissed off when i die to them especially when they use their over shields and stuff but my question is is their any special tactic you guys use to deal with them? cuz i always seem to meet my end to them and cant figure out a way i can fight them and win cuz they always shield too quick unless you snipe them in the head...but the problem with snipers is that they aren't fit for every engagement.
Quick question wrel.
Why do you always jump before you initiate a revive/heal?
Ive noticed this in a couple of your vids and was curious as to whether it was a personal twitch or a purposeful action and if the latter why?
Most likely because it's rather unpredictable, making it a bit harder for enemies to land shots on him, particularly for headshotting snipers.
Axel Westberg
Hmmmmmm..........makes sense
+devilrv89 When you jump, you can start a revive while maintaining your momentum. If you just walk up to a target, then you're going to be at walking speed until they revive. So by jumping, you're spending less time at walking speed, which makes you a more difficult target to hit. It also lets you start a revive and get into a better position at the same. Lastly, it's more amusing than standing there.
That may explain why sometimes ppl runs away and I'm the now dumbass who chases them who dies lol thanks wrel
Could u update your shotgun roundup and make an mkv suppressed video.
After watching this I decided to fuck all those MLG super insta kill 360 no scope techniques and play for fun.
What weapon are you using?
I'm confused. So the person rounding the corner see's someone first? Why?
For the last clip what gun were u using
+Ethan Hamto TR Directive LMG, IIRC.
Anyone who plays on PS4 have the issue of their jetpack not working properly? The horizontal movement seems be ok but the vertical movement isnt, like I just float a foot or two of the ground and that's it. If I hold it down and go straight up, I can only go about 10 ft of the ground. I can't even get over base walls which is what the class was designed for and I'm really getting frustrated to the point I don't even use light assault anymore. I thought that new patch would fix it but nope, it didnt.
+The Puncakian You probably have Drifter Jump Jets equipped on that loadout. Drifters are really only good for horizontal movement.
Wrel But are they really THAT bad for vertical movement? I don't see why anyone would want to use them, and you don't even go that fast...
+The Puncakian Yeah, they're that bad. Used to be worse, and granted no vertical thrust at all. The point of Drifters are to be used at certain bases that give you a vertical advantage, or with jump pads. Max rank lets you fly for about THIRTY SECONDS, which is a long time to be airborne. They're best for C-4ing vehicles from a long way away. But again, very specific in their use.
Wrel drifters would probably be better if you didn't hold it down and just pressed it and you would boost a direction a short distance really quickly, like if you're in a fight and you hit it and boost backward really fast to get out of there, that would be practical.
Wrel like advanced warfare sorta, but farther
If you throw a revive nade and then die will the nade revive you or nah?
+Robert Marshall Nah.
usefull little strategy.... unfortunately i run planetside on a 2012 toaster and most of the time doubling back kills my framerate instead of my opponent and then me :(
is that the auraxium special knife ??? i have one ;P
+Smarackto LP Nah, just the standard one.
Wrel I am asking my self every day why they do not put your gaming ideas in the game
darkelfdruid did a pretty good video over this, though he wasn't quite as nice about it. LOL! it was funny though
What if theres 3 or 2 guy chasing me?
This guy reminds me the one player who always kills me while i chaning my gun
Hi Wrel
Or, as us spies like to call it...
The Matador!
I nevar chase like that! :D
what LMG was he using?
+ZenithVI Gaming Butcher.
Planetside 4 Life
Insta +1 like for shadow war
Love you
No homo
A-TROSS OR REAPER???
+jason li (gunfyre212) Reaper is a monster on medium range, but low bullet speed, recoil and drop compensation make it really hard to use on longer ranges. Tross is the way to go on longer ranges because of higher bullet velocity and lower RPM that will benefit you by making that recoil a little more controllable at the expense of raw DPS advantage reaper has.
+Tooth PasteEater jesus christ you must be at least BR 90 to know all that xD
or he is just a BR 20 who plays medic the most.
+jason li (gunfyre212) combat medics are unappreciated, if not for us,you'd be in the fight for 2 minutes then die and get back to the fight in 5 minutes.
MLG style
:D
Pretty sure this is a war crime
so, basically cornerstabs from tf2?