@Azrael Cinder Would've been a great covenant, you join and forevermore can be summoned by him for bossfights. Like an upgraded version of mirror knight. Your character meets the Ivory King and is like "You are badass, I am also badass, shall we be badass together?" So he hands you a ring and a Sword and now you help him clap uppity undead.
If we’re counting unused content, then the sounds of Ocelotte being crushed by Oceiros is hands down the most disturbing thing I’ve ever heard. I don’t know what fucking maniac thought the sounds of a baby crying as it’s skull and face are caved in by its deranged father was a good idea
Otz used to be one of my favorite souls people; I never understood why he suddenly just decided to start playing bad games like pubg and shit by shitlight, much less how he still maintains a following playing those games... Good for him and his handsome face though i suppose
I, too, love the primordial source of hate and suffering of old, kept at bay but always writhing against its shackles, seeking to spread its roots across the world
Chose the wrong world, already enough hate for ds2 Now I keep getting notifications about deep and meaningful replies towards the concept of chaos in dark souls and I honestly don't care
I think its just pure potentiality, and all that entails, not necessary hate or suffering. I interpret it as feeding the world, which is why the roots of presumably an archtree are right above it. But hey, its dark souls. You interpret how ya want :)
@@shayposting Both a fantastic moment, and the single thing that made me feel most like a dumbass. Did I expect the entire writhing nightmare of Izalith underneath Eleum Loyce? No. But on the other hand, figuring out that the Old Chaos was... literally, the old Chaos from DS1, shouldn't have taken me so long.
Tried to farm them. It was miserable. Even with your knight buddies it was still bad. Without them you just get overwhelmed. 0/10 rewards aren't worth it
I swear instead of here some creepy ambience sounds...I'm just hearing some gargantuan creature constantly roaring...Imagine what could live down there.
Well, Chaos is the home and birth place of all Chaos Demons, so it's not exactly a welcoming place to humans, probably. I wonder how a baby Chaos Demon would look like :D
Probably this creepy creature is Chaos itself - multiple souls, mangled by false flame of chaos, screaming in the depths below Eleum Loyce, awaiting full fading of Ivory King's power, holding them underground.
@@wasf8569 I spent I don't know how many hundred of hours 100% the base game. Yeah, between the horrendous drop rates and the uniques enemies meaning you have to burn an ascetic every time to fight them again, this was long, ve~ry long. (Oh hello Ancient Dragon that I had to do 40 times in a row on NG+7 to farm someone in your area :^) )
Never noticed how similar the fall into this place is to the slide into Bed of Chaos. Apparently the slide in the Bed is supposed to symbolize an "unbirthing", a journey back through the cervix of the mother of all demons... what a weird boss that turned out to be, and little surprise given Miyazaki's direction and hands-off management of that zone until the last minute
Given that the wiki doesn't say who posted it, I would be wary. There was one guy that got banned from the Bloodborne wiki for spamming his theories everywhere he could without explicitly stating they were theories, so this could be him.
@@garbouwdeark9103 Indeed, it coming from the wiki is why I put in that mild "for what it's worth" warning. However, the official concept art is pretty damning, in my opinion, especially when paired with the heavy emphasis on all aspects of the female reproductive system in Bloodborne. Miyazaki's head was clearly working that area at the time. I wish I could find that quote I remember hearing about the boss being difficult to design to Miyazaki's directions, but I'm afraid I can't remember where that was, so I suppose take that with a grain of salt too. But it jives very much with what we know as common knowledge about Miyazaki's misgivings regarding Izalith. Overall, it fits, really. It makes sense to me, and lacking an official admission from the devs, I think the concept art is pretty close to an official confirmation of the "theory". It also provides an answer to the question many have asked: _"What the hell were they thinking when they designed this boss?"_ It seems they went in with an idea based on a theme that they ultimately found difficult to execute in a fun way from a gameplay perspective, not least of all because of their time constraints. It's a pretty interesting idea though, I reckon
The problems of ds2 is not so much the maps, but the way the game feels. The gameplay is clunky, some boss fight feels like they comes out of nowhere. What is to blame are The issues during development and with the editors, from what I read and saw. Would it have been a better game? Maybe. Would the gameplay have been better without having to reboot the development mid-way? Absolutely.
@@ducdantalion2317 I agree, the game could've been as good as ds1 but they messed up the gameplay and introduced very bad mechanics that made the game not enjoyable.
@@ducdantalion2317 my only real problem with the gameplay is that so many enemies could hit you at the very start of the attack animation before their weapon would even physically connect to you.
Oh me too, I got inspired by 1 of zulli DS2 video so I start up sotfs again for nostalgia sake while finally tempting to do "no bonfire" achievement, I get hook for 4 hours straight, currently in shaded wood.
This was such a cool fight. It feels really badass fighting the ivory king with the loyce knights by your side. This was actually my favorite dlc among the 3. Story of alsanna and Ivory king was very touching.
@@andryuu_2000 Those co-op areas were hell for me because o didn't knew I wasn't suppose to solo them. It's too bad because i love the smelter demon fight. Cave of the dead and frigid outskirts can just piss off though.
@@andryuu_2000 Agreed. I liked the puzzle oriented level designs in the dlcs. Ds2 was such a cool game, makes me wanna go back for another playthrough.
Hey Zullie, i have a question, like 5 years ago i looked to a video that shows that these branches on the old chaos are the exact same ones on somewhere on Lost Izalith, even the Bed of Chaos but i cant find that video and its been on my head ever since because when the time passes, and without that video to reconfirm that, i feel that i jsut imagine all that btu im sure ive seen that before thanks for this videos, theyre so interesting
@@alexepic3255 seeing how different DS2 is from the first one, it would be strange to find reused assets (especially if they are, you know, just models of branches, of all things that could have been reused instead)
@@thuropendragon7498 Also the stairs should be broken so you can't cheese the boss Plus the second Capra should be on top of the stairs and use a catalyst to cast the fire explosions of demon firesage
The Capra fight is really a lesson. The arena and boss is teaching you how to use the environment to your advantage against multiple enemies. It’s frustrating but makes sense in the end.
The whole fight actually feels surreal and very epic. With the froggy knights starting to sacrifice themselves and you being in this infinite ocean of pure destruction.
I like how the fall seamlessly transports you to, what seems to be, an entirely different dimension. You're supposed to be underground, far, far underground but when you look up.. you see the stars.. The fire around is more like a plasma.. or an energy. The sounds are unrecognizable and otherworldly.. It's like H.P Lovecraft..
Burnt Ivory King is my favorite multiplayer boss. Dropping down with three knights and two summons is just epic and then the fight against the burnt knights just turns into a hughe battle, until suddendly Burnt Ivory King swaggers in with one of THE best entrences.
Eleum Loyce was one of the most fascinating places and presented one of the more fascinating story elements I've seen in any of the Souls games, or any story at all really. I am reminded of World of Warcraft's Wrath of the Litch king in many ways and it was done splendidly.
@@chompythebeast It's probably the other way around. After all, we can all agree Bed of Chaos is really poopy, specially compared to the Burnt Ivory King
Reminds me of a less somber Ash Lake. A primordial land so ancient and steeped in myth that you hardly even know what you're looking at. And you never will, since it's beyond the scope of human comprehension. I love imagery of people gazing upon something they will never understand. It's hauntingly beautiful, and strangely serene.
I liked how the writers of Dark Souls 2 were trying to say that the Old Chaos was all that was left of Lost Izalith. Then, in Dark Souls 3, Miyazaki had to retcon almost everything that Dark Souls 2 had done storywise and made the Smouldering Lake and Demon Ruins what was left of Lost Izalith
Well, you could argue that the dark souls 2 old chaos is it without the chackles of Mother Izalith. The Dark Souls 3 version is after, when the old chaos was defeated, its last remnant dying under the catacombs of a great conqueror, only inhabited by the old demon king, the last of its kind. But that’s my theory.
But I think the old chaos is actually not the same place as lost izalith, it's the original place where she made the chaos flame in an attempt to make an eternal age of fire or a much longer lasting one, but it backfires completely. Lost izalith I thought was just the final resting place of the chaos witches and it turned into demon infested areas not too different from the old chaos. Idk maybe not
DS2 had better ideas for me, the fact that the Undead Curse spread to even further kingdoms, the Daughters of the Dark, Old Chaos turning into hell and Ivory King being Doomguy, Vendrick regretting what he did but accepts his fate, Aldia's testing you one last time and granting you freedom in the end. But no.. Meeyahzuhki had to retcon these cool things. Gameplay change was alright in DS3 but I will never forgive the developers for making DS2 things turn into cameos and retconning a lot of great ideas that were in DS2. Weak ass Link Fire/Dark Lord bullshit ending.
What if Dark Souls 3 is chronologically the second one, while Dark Souls 2 is set in a very distant future? A sort of gaiden/sidestory where the world resets itself and moves on even after the end in DS3.
I think all of frozen eleum loyce is pretty cool. The ominous, melancholic sounding introduction you get at the start, the design of the place. Conceptually, I even like the friget outskirts. Having a wide open plane instead of cramped corridors was a really cool look when I first got there. It's a shame that the enemies and bosses in that area are such a pain and ruin any enjoyment.
One shudders to imagine what the Flame of Chaos could have become if the Ivory King and his dear Child of Dark failed to put a stop to it. Izalith’s fire embodies all things aberrant, and what is more unnatural then a flame that never fades?
@@WhompingWalrus i gotta disagree, if all of dark souls 2 was a good as the dlcs it would potentially be the best one, but unfortunately the main game can be pretty damn weak, especially the first half. It’s a shame, given the proper time and development cycle it would’ve likely have been amazing.
DS2 is tied for my favorite souls game with 1. It's funny how mad people get when you don't share the same sentiment as them. Enjoy what you enjoy, and don't get pissy when others don't share your preference.
My guy, it's a meme. People that prefer 2 talk endless shit on 3, people that prefer 3 talk endless shit on 2 (me included), but in the end we've all played them all and enjoyed the world. It's not real. It's funny. It's fake tribalism. Have a laugh sometime.
@@chrismanuel9768 Most of the time its a meme but there are plenty out there who show genuine aggression when you like a DS game they dont or dislike one they do.
Yeah, I agree. This is especially true in this game's DLC areas, where the team got to build everything from scratch instead of working with the scraps of the previous team. If only we had seen what the final DS2 team could have done had they been there from the beginning
What buggers me off is The ds1 fans who criticize DS2 for it's bad boss fight but at the same time praise ds1 who literally has one of the worst bosses in the entire series (excluding the dlcs) Capra demon. That butter fly boss. The entire izalith sucks. Recycled asylum demon bosses. Gwyn who can literally be cheesed by parrying him. AND DON'T EVER FORGET PINWHEEL. Ds1 is such an overrated piece of a an average game. In comparison with DS2. DS2 is easily a better game at least it doesn't have an entire part where the game becomes a shitty tour to hell
@@thelustyargonianmaidhalalv5284 and dark souls 2 has coveteus demon which is a mid game boss that dies in 5 hits and can barely attack you. you can say the same for pinwheel, but atleast pinwheel has an intersesting lore while coveteus demon is just a simp. also shrine of amana is 10 times worse than lost izalith if you're a strenght or dex player, there's no denying that.
There's a feeling that always comes back to me when I remember this place. I didn't recruit loyce knights and plummeted into the arena with 3 summons. The sight of 3 strength builds perfectly covering eachother was beautiful. I had a hybrid sword+spear caster so I would engage at a bit more range compared to my team. Once the king stepped on to the field I sent as many orbs as I could to gain the attention. And it was glorious. Everyone fighting in tandem to my attacks when the charred knights had been temporarily cleared, one mistimed dodge and I took the spinning sweep attack to the face and then boom. 3 running attacks. He used his close range ice aoe and I sent another volley of dark orbs. And as soon as his health dropped to a quarter... We no longer focused on the charred coming in. We just swarmed. And once he fell. We all jumped into a group and cheered. Single best experience on dark souls
0:46 A magma utero with fallopian tubes and all? Good grief they sealed that, I wonder what monstrousities would have been born from that hellish place
I just finished this area recently had to git gud and summon like a puss for this fight because that gank sequence was giving me an aneurysm Still farming their souls
you got the order wrong then, first you get summoned to farm the souls, then when youre at around 30 you start doing the boss yourself and summon others to get them farming. once you get the 50 souls you just dont dismiss the bros and sis's and instead point at the enemy. i had a jolly good time doing that last week.
@@NooobLP Its also a good thing that i had a ring that decreases poise so 1 murakumo hit staggered them its also best to avoid the caster's fire whip because that thing will oblitirate your health The set i had are Symbol of avarice Havel armor Tseldora gloves Vengarl legs Murakumo
This thing is probably related to the concept of "Qliphoth" from Kabbalah, specifically the ideas around the source of evil and the qliphot tree/dark tree, hence the roots, I guess.
It's a great game, has similar problems to DS1 but spattered everywhere instead of concentrated in the last few areas like DS1. If it wasn't called dark souls 2 and was a 'spinoff' or something I feel like people would be much less mad about it, DS3 is the true sequel to the first game - then again people call it endless references in DS3 so I guess you can't win with everyone.
@@TheMirksta Yeah it's a good game, but not a great souls game is how most people put it. I think most people just hate how odd the game feels when in combat. Adaptability being a stat was... weird... Certain enemies being able to cancel their own animations and do jank shit wasn't too good. Some parts feel cheap in the challenge that they offer. There's like.... 3 different poison levels... Still has great aesthetic and has dope ass weapons and armor. DLC was great. Despite the whole "geographical" consistency issue, the zones are pretty fuckin cool. The misty forest with invisible assassins always makes my butthole pucker up. And most importantly... GAVLIN WHEEL GAVLIN DEAL
This is among my favorite areas too, and tied with Fume Knight for my favorite boss in 2. I always beat the king right away on NG and immediately ascetic so that I get double souls while I farm Loyce Souls lol. Thanks for showing us around Zullie, such a cool arena!
i wonder if it has something to do with the age of fire though, maybe the chaos flame and the first flame are in some sort of competition, and since dark souls 2 is in an age of dark the chaos flame can spread easier?
In 2 many of the entities perpetuate chaos, in 3 many of the entities perpetuate entropy, finality and ending. The series goes a lot like the lifespan of a mortal life. In infancy, it is adorable, loveable and likeable by nearly all, a promise of the future and a bright example of what can be. In its mid life, it made decisions and took actions we wouldn't have expected from looking st its infancy. Some were good, some great, other bad, and some horrible. Nearing the end if its life it came full circle. The realization of the end in sight, time ticking away, lapping at the waters of life that yet remain within, drying them up. An appreciation of finality and the ultimate result of entropy, the inevitable return to dark.
I've read somewhere that it got weaker between 2 and 3 because the Ivory King managed to get Alsanna to guard the chaos flame, weakening it with the power of dark. Which is a nice explanation to why the demons are going extinct in Dark Souls 3.
A person with great training (the Witch of Izalith) still screwed up and let Chaos Fire get out of control. It was likely also contained from spreading by the dome around Izalith. DS2 is what happens when a novice (The Lost Sinner, heavily implied to be a former Head Priestess of Eleum Loyce) messes with forces she doesn't understand and starts a raging fire that can't be contained. It's akin to those fires that start in coal mines that will burn uncontrollably underground feeding off the coal veins for decades or centuries.
The Old Chao's inclusion brings this dlc from a pretty great one to a stellar one. Its sad to see people not talk about the things Dark Souls 2 did, which one of those was the dlc. Like you said the pacing was great, the calm before the giant storm that awaits at the bottom. Eleum Loyce is great.
Unpopular opinion: Dks2 was the best of the series even with it's flaws. Every souls games has flaws, so... Dks3 felt pale in comparison to the other two games and the fact that it looked a lot like Bloodborne in terms of texture bothered me a lot.
3 used a lot of assets from bloodborne and it's also the most linear of all the games, 3 also buried its self in the fan service of one where as 2 expanded on the concept.
Fun fact, the original release of DS3 had a big chunk of Central Yharnam / the Cathedral Ward in the game files. So it might very well not just LOOK LIKE BB, but straight-up reuse stuff. (It's been patched out now, sadly. At least the chalice dungeon known as the Demon Ruins is still there)
I love DS2 with a passion def my favorite of the 3. The 3rd one is my least favorite, it feels incomplete and I don't have much fun playing it. The first is ok, I like the locations alot
@@Ghost-Mom the fanservice really killed it for me. All sense of grand time Is lost with how everyone seems to know place forgotten in just the last game
I like to imagine that you aren’t a real human, and that you’re just a spirit traveling through the internet that can manifest as video game characters and can record TH-cam videos, so you calling this your favorite place is very literal.
Honestly, I think after Dark souls 1, dark souls 2 has the most fun looking areas, obviously they have a bunch of issues like ugly textures but I just love their vibe. Dark Souls 3 is a good game but I find the areas pretty boring. It doesn't have a Dragon Aerie, a Majula, ect
Majula was good but dragon aerie was a pretty bad area tbh, design and flow-wise. It's even got a freaking statue at the end of a rope bridge for literally zero reason, and the dragon's purpose in lore and in game mechanics is pretty bland. The castle itself has one single hidden/interesting path and is extremely difficult to do anything besides simply run to Ancient Dragon over and over. I think the Bastille, Heide, Forest of Fallen giants fort, and Tseldora areas are some of the most fun to traverse and play around in, with some of the most interesting visuals. (not counting DLC areas because obviously those are S-tier designs)
Ds2 is helped a lot by it's art direction, and especially his usage of colors. A lot of ruined areas, with dull colors contrasted with bright and colorful colors, lovely.
Lately I've been farming Loyce souls, and I was curious- Does increasing item drop rate actually affect Loyce souls? Sounds like common sense but theres a lot of inconsitency online and personally I see no real difference.
Eleum Loyce and the Old Chaos fight is easily my favorite experience in ALL of Dark Souls. I loved that you had to go around and rally a crew of old knights together, then you got to show up as a whole squad and fight side by side to take on the Old Chaos.
Honestly I feel like dark souls 2 could have been one of the best games if it wasn't for the soul memory thing and the fact a elevator takes you up to a lava kingdom in the sky lol
@@DarkChibiWeebie Mimics can grab you if you are behind them. This one is clunky enough, and that's without mentioning the ADP mechanic which is super weird. Dark Souls 2 was my first Souls game and I love it, but some elements are too strange to fit with the level of work Dark Souls 1 offers. It makes a frustrating contrast.
Honestly the moment when THE OLD CHAOS pops up as you fall and you just see the sheer scale of the whole area might be my favorite visual in the whole Dark Souls franchise
Most things about the game aspect of Dark Souls 2 are excruciatingly mediocre or downright awful but i just can't hate on the art design and music it has, they are genuinely beautiful for the most part.
@Long Sub I think DS2 has a solid soundtrack, out of the trilogy I'd put it below DS3 but above DS1 in terms of music. And I think the areas are more visually appealing than they are in DS3 since alot of DS3 has a washed out, greyish look. But DS1 has more visually appealing and fun to play through areas than DS2 and DS3 imo. DS3 by far has the best bosses and enemy design in the series.
@Long Sub Oh absolutely. I've played all Soulsborne games many times and agree with everything you just said 100%, i just wanted to be a little more positive towards my most hated game probably ever lol.
@Long Sub I think DS2 has some good boss themes like Sir Alonne, Majula, Old Dragonslayer, Fume Knight, Darklurker and Aldia although I do think Gwyn's theme is the best of the series, I just like more of DS2's boss themes I guess, shame the bosses that came with them weren't always up to par with the music.
My favorite message in this place: "destroy ring" at the edge of the platform.
Lol, that's amazing.
Gotta try this one.
Destroyed, by someone, or something
OOOOOoooohhhhhhh
DESTROY IT!!
CAST IT INTO THE FIRE!!
@@harryli6151 No..
Reminder that Ivory King the hyperchad decided to build his throne directly above this to personally keep an eye on it
Absolute unit
Why thank you. I find these comments lovely. Hope you have a good day too chads.
@@burntivoryking6236 stay safe and don't forget your sunscreen next time
@@burntivoryking6236 hello there best boss in the game
@Azrael Cinder Would've been a great covenant, you join and forevermore can be summoned by him for bossfights. Like an upgraded version of mirror knight. Your character meets the Ivory King and is like "You are badass, I am also badass, shall we be badass together?" So he hands you a ring and a Sword and now you help him clap uppity undead.
The noises going down are some of the most unsettling noises I've heard in darksouls
And then silence as you mindlessly grinding those loyce souls.
Reminds me a bit of the fire temple in Ocarina of Time
After the scraming at the Irythril Dungeon
If we’re counting unused content, then the sounds of Ocelotte being crushed by Oceiros is hands down the most disturbing thing I’ve ever heard. I don’t know what fucking maniac thought the sounds of a baby crying as it’s skull and face are caved in by its deranged father was a good idea
Give in to Jesus while you still can.
Heard Otzdarva really likes this place.
Lmao.
Zozzled
Loved it so much he came back to it over and over again.
"This is it, guys". Still rings in my ears
Otz used to be one of my favorite souls people; I never understood why he suddenly just decided to start playing bad games like pubg and shit by shitlight, much less how he still maintains a following playing those games... Good for him and his handsome face though i suppose
Interesting to hear the ambient sounds there for once.
Constant roaring is kinda weird honestly
@@benpage5088 probably supposed to be chaos demons?
oooOOO
@@benpage5088 To each their own, I love it, it feels like the old chaos screaming and tearing against its restraints.
It's horror and spooky
I, too, love the primordial source of hate and suffering of old, kept at bay but always writhing against its shackles, seeking to spread its roots across the world
Chose the wrong world, already enough hate for ds2
Now I keep getting notifications about deep and meaningful replies towards the concept of chaos in dark souls and I honestly don't care
Lava awesome.
Why the primordial source of hate and suffering?
I think its just pure potentiality, and all that entails, not necessary hate or suffering. I interpret it as feeding the world, which is why the roots of presumably an archtree are right above it. But hey, its dark souls. You interpret how ya want :)
Yes, I, too
I will say the fall into the old chaos has one of the coolest visuals I’ve seen in ds2
Yes! The moment the place name pops up, the sound effect, and the soundtrack perfectly syncs!!!
In all of souls really
It's pretty impressive because you're used to just nothing but cold blue and ice. And then...
It's that holy shit moment of realising what the Old Chaos really is.
@@shayposting Both a fantastic moment, and the single thing that made me feel most like a dumbass. Did I expect the entire writhing nightmare of Izalith underneath Eleum Loyce? No. But on the other hand, figuring out that the Old Chaos was... literally, the old Chaos from DS1, shouldn't have taken me so long.
If you pay attention, it's still possible to hear the screams of players who lost their lives farming loyce souls in the old caos.
Tried to farm them. It was miserable. Even with your knight buddies it was still bad. Without them you just get overwhelmed. 0/10 rewards aren't worth it
I spent a whole day farming for those damn souls that I leveled up my character over 50 times.
You can also hear the souls of the players who raged from trying to beat the bullshit Bed of Chaos boss.
At least there are pretty things to look at while dying here.
I never die there. I just cheat. Lmao git gud.
@@CallMeMimi27 wtf
@@CallMeMimi27 Your entire comment is a contradiction?
I really like the ring noise that plays as "The Old Chaos" area message appears
Reminds me of Hollow Knight
@@jackle7896 eh. such a trashy game
@@thelustyargonianmaidhalalv5284 lol, such a beautiful game with an incredible soundtrack, made by just 3 people
@@ask_0 was it really made by just 3 ppl?
@@thelustyargonianmaidhalalv5284 someone's a salty sailor
best thing at this arena/bossfight is that Sauron like entry of Ivory king
No other boss in Soulsborne tops this awesome entrance
Love moments like these that are really epic or intimidating without the need of a cutscene
'visions of ring,
therefore,
try destroy,'
@@walter1383 cue "And I say..." in the background afterwards.
The entrance is pure bad ass incarnate. Fitting for the most bad ass king in souls.
One of the best moments in the series. After Izalith and Old Iron King, at least this time they did something right with lava.
Oh, Izalith... my eyes are still bleeding...
@@autisticbraindamagedmoron Such a cool place it could've(or should've) been too :(
Izalith and its lasagna lakes
@@metalmonster9536 if Izalith was good, it wouldn't be Izalith
I swear instead of here some creepy ambience sounds...I'm just hearing some gargantuan creature constantly roaring...Imagine what could live down there.
aldia
Well, Chaos is the home and birth place of all Chaos Demons, so it's not exactly a welcoming place to humans, probably. I wonder how a baby Chaos Demon would look like :D
Ceaseless discharge is taking a massive dump
Probably this creepy creature is Chaos itself - multiple souls, mangled by false flame of chaos, screaming in the depths below Eleum Loyce, awaiting full fading of Ivory King's power, holding them underground.
A soup of all demons
I probably spent more time there farming Loyce souls with randoms than it took average player to beat whole series
I had a blast with my bois the knights. Several hours, naked, Avarice Helm. Great memories.
@@desplanchesstevan1418 yeah same. its just sad when the summon sign of who you used to hang out with stops appearing :(
Finished my Eleum Loyce Sorcerer Knight build yesterday, and oh boy, I hate the drop rate in ds2
@@NooobLP Oh I did it alone, with the NPC's.. Couldn't think of draggin' someone along this grindfest, this would be cruel
@@wasf8569 I spent I don't know how many hundred of hours 100% the base game. Yeah, between the horrendous drop rates and the uniques enemies meaning you have to burn an ascetic every time to fight them again, this was long, ve~ry long.
(Oh hello Ancient Dragon that I had to do 40 times in a row on NG+7 to farm someone in your area :^) )
"Whelp. Looks like the pipes in Old Izalith got backed up, again."
"There's a blockage further down the way in Eleum Loyce."
“If I’m not back by Thursday, go and do what need’st be done…. thou’st.”
@@VardrunCRidleyKnight "Oh why yes yes of coarse. Finally he's gone. Eleum Loyce ice Rink opens today!"
Never noticed how similar the fall into this place is to the slide into Bed of Chaos. Apparently the slide in the Bed is supposed to symbolize an "unbirthing", a journey back through the cervix of the mother of all demons... what a weird boss that turned out to be, and little surprise given Miyazaki's direction and hands-off management of that zone until the last minute
That sounds very interesting! Is there a source for that or is it just speculation? (The symbolism in the bed of chaos ramp)
@@chompythebeast Well-explained. In full details. Kudos
Given that the wiki doesn't say who posted it, I would be wary. There was one guy that got banned from the Bloodborne wiki for spamming his theories everywhere he could without explicitly stating they were theories, so this could be him.
@@garbouwdeark9103 Indeed, it coming from the wiki is why I put in that mild "for what it's worth" warning. However, the official concept art is pretty damning, in my opinion, especially when paired with the heavy emphasis on all aspects of the female reproductive system in Bloodborne. Miyazaki's head was clearly working that area at the time.
I wish I could find that quote I remember hearing about the boss being difficult to design to Miyazaki's directions, but I'm afraid I can't remember where that was, so I suppose take that with a grain of salt too. But it jives very much with what we know as common knowledge about Miyazaki's misgivings regarding Izalith.
Overall, it fits, really. It makes sense to me, and lacking an official admission from the devs, I think the concept art is pretty close to an official confirmation of the "theory". It also provides an answer to the question many have asked: _"What the hell were they thinking when they designed this boss?"_ It seems they went in with an idea based on a theme that they ultimately found difficult to execute in a fun way from a gameplay perspective, not least of all because of their time constraints. It's a pretty interesting idea though, I reckon
Chompy the Beast i can see that in the boss design, the two orbs on either side are like fallopian tubes and the “egg” in the middle
The CHADVory King had to deal with this shit constantly.
bro what a legend
He might've been a girl too
@@wiebitteichhabeesvergessen in that case isn't queen?
Its probably his sleep ambient music
@@wiebitteichhabeesvergessen Ivory king is referenced as a He.
To be honest, I liked the overall athmosphere of the DS2 maps. I liked them. You can crucify me now.
The problems of ds2 is not so much the maps, but the way the game feels. The gameplay is clunky, some boss fight feels like they comes out of nowhere.
What is to blame are The issues during development and with the editors, from what I read and saw. Would it have been a better game? Maybe. Would the gameplay have been better without having to reboot the development mid-way? Absolutely.
@@ducdantalion2317 still better than the first one.
@@ducdantalion2317 i dont see any poblem with the gameplay, people only think its bad because they wanted a carbon copy of ds1
@@ducdantalion2317 I agree, the game could've been as good as ds1 but they messed up the gameplay and introduced very bad mechanics that made the game not enjoyable.
@@ducdantalion2317 my only real problem with the gameplay is that so many enemies could hit you at the very start of the attack animation before their weapon would even physically connect to you.
Those wood tendrils look like bed of chaos “hands”
this area is supposed to be close to lost izalith right? I think it's under the bed of chaos
dammit, tempted to play through sotfs again now, got an itch for trying a new powerstance combo too.
Oh me too, I got inspired by 1 of zulli DS2 video so I start up sotfs again for nostalgia sake while finally tempting to do "no bonfire" achievement, I get hook for 4 hours straight, currently in shaded wood.
I put 1k hours into PS3 DS2 and PC SOTFS, I tought I was completely done with it, but just when I tought I was out, THEY PULL ME BACK IN!
Try the Zveihander with the Claymore, it's ridiculous.
Mastadon GS or Halbert powerstance is fun. With full dragon armor.
Try Bone Fist/Bare Hand with the champions ring and powerstance it, you get the flashy movementd of the bone fist and the force on the right/left hand
It's like the light and dark have been rammed together by humanity for so long it's now becoming this self aware energy with no purpose.
It's Chaos, born from the Witch of Izalith's attempt to recreate the First Flame through Pyromancy.
@@fernandosales8320 I thought we killed her in DS1.
@@jasonflake8057 And demons still existed without her and her soul still lingers, probably influencing the world to a degree.
lmao no its just the chaos.
its has nothing to do with light and dark
@@jasonflake8057 doesnt mean we killed the chaos boss. we just killed its birthplace
i really like the fact that you spend so much time in the frozen enviroment above and then the final area looks like this
This was such a cool fight. It feels really badass fighting the ivory king with the loyce knights by your side. This was actually my favorite dlc among the 3. Story of alsanna and Ivory king was very touching.
The dlcs always have some of the best bossfights of the series, especially in ds2 (except for the one 3 coop extra ones)
@@andryuu_2000 Those co-op areas were hell for me because o didn't knew I wasn't suppose to solo them. It's too bad because i love the smelter demon fight. Cave of the dead and frigid outskirts can just piss off though.
@@pushpitkumar99 they're shit anyway, but the rest of the dlcs is coool
@@andryuu_2000 Agreed. I liked the puzzle oriented level designs in the dlcs. Ds2 was such a cool game, makes me wanna go back for another playthrough.
Touching? These 2 characters broke me into tears
Ivory Loyce really is one of the most beautiful and coolest places in all the souls games tbh.
Ya mean Eleum Loyce my homie.
***The Old Chaos hungers still...***
Hey Zullie, i have a question, like 5 years ago i looked to a video that shows that these branches on the old chaos are the exact same ones on somewhere on Lost Izalith, even the Bed of Chaos but i cant find that video and its been on my head ever since because when the time passes, and without that video to reconfirm that, i feel that i jsut imagine all that btu im sure ive seen that before
thanks for this videos, theyre so interesting
@@miufke_ it's interesting how some people can function without a brain
@@miufke_ comedy
@@miufke_ uhhh what?
Does it matter? They are just models of branches...
@@alexepic3255 seeing how different DS2 is from the first one, it would be strange to find reused assets (especially if they are, you know, just models of branches, of all things that could have been reused instead)
Best boss arena in souls series.
Worst is Capra, obvs.
BED OF CHAOS
Its the best, duh. Only could've been improved by less space, more dogs and a second Capra. But alas, Miyazaki ran out of time. /s
@@thuropendragon7498
Also the stairs should be broken so you can't cheese the boss
Plus the second Capra should be on top of the stairs and use a catalyst to cast the fire explosions of demon firesage
The Capra fight is really a lesson. The arena and boss is teaching you how to use the environment to your advantage against multiple enemies. It’s frustrating but makes sense in the end.
@@bizmonkey007 are you certain of this dark souls has a history of unintentional lessons.
The whole fight actually feels surreal and very epic. With the froggy knights starting to sacrifice themselves and you being in this infinite ocean of pure destruction.
I like how the fall seamlessly transports you to, what seems to be, an entirely different dimension. You're supposed to be underground, far, far underground but when you look up.. you see the stars..
The fire around is more like a plasma.. or an energy. The sounds are unrecognizable and otherworldly.. It's like H.P Lovecraft..
Burnt Ivory King is my favorite multiplayer boss. Dropping down with three knights and two summons is just epic and then the fight against the burnt knights just turns into a hughe battle, until suddendly Burnt Ivory King swaggers in with one of THE best entrences.
Eleum Loyce was one of the most fascinating places and presented one of the more fascinating story elements I've seen in any of the Souls games, or any story at all really. I am reminded of World of Warcraft's Wrath of the Litch king in many ways and it was done splendidly.
right? the conversations with alanna and atmosphere of the level make it my favorite area in the souls series
Ah yes the sphincter of chaos.
As opposed to the cervix we enter through to fight the Bed in the first game
@@chompythebeast It's probably the other way around. After all, we can all agree Bed of Chaos is really poopy, specially compared to the Burnt Ivory King
@@tommapar Based Ivory King easily the 3rd best bossfight in the game
The ambience is so haunting, I love it
Reminds me of a less somber Ash Lake. A primordial land so ancient and steeped in myth that you hardly even know what you're looking at. And you never will, since it's beyond the scope of human comprehension.
I love imagery of people gazing upon something they will never understand. It's hauntingly beautiful, and strangely serene.
I liked how the writers of Dark Souls 2 were trying to say that the Old Chaos was all that was left of Lost Izalith. Then, in Dark Souls 3, Miyazaki had to retcon almost everything that Dark Souls 2 had done storywise and made the Smouldering Lake and Demon Ruins what was left of Lost Izalith
Well, you could argue that the dark souls 2 old chaos is it without the chackles of Mother Izalith. The Dark Souls 3 version is after, when the old chaos was defeated, its last remnant dying under the catacombs of a great conqueror, only inhabited by the old demon king, the last of its kind. But that’s my theory.
But I think the old chaos is actually not the same place as lost izalith, it's the original place where she made the chaos flame in an attempt to make an eternal age of fire or a much longer lasting one, but it backfires completely. Lost izalith I thought was just the final resting place of the chaos witches and it turned into demon infested areas not too different from the old chaos. Idk maybe not
@@jeezed2950 So then... Lost Izalith
DS2 had better ideas for me, the fact that the Undead Curse spread to even further kingdoms, the Daughters of the Dark, Old Chaos turning into hell and Ivory King being Doomguy, Vendrick regretting what he did but accepts his fate, Aldia's testing you one last time and granting you freedom in the end. But no.. Meeyahzuhki had to retcon these cool things.
Gameplay change was alright in DS3 but I will never forgive the developers for making DS2 things turn into cameos and retconning a lot of great ideas that were in DS2. Weak ass Link Fire/Dark Lord bullshit ending.
What if Dark Souls 3 is chronologically the second one, while Dark Souls 2 is set in a very distant future? A sort of gaiden/sidestory where the world resets itself and moves on even after the end in DS3.
I think all of frozen eleum loyce is pretty cool. The ominous, melancholic sounding introduction you get at the start, the design of the place. Conceptually, I even like the friget outskirts. Having a wide open plane instead of cramped corridors was a really cool look when I first got there. It's a shame that the enemies and bosses in that area are such a pain and ruin any enjoyment.
I have seen this place so often, grinding the damn frog knight souls
the reveal plunging into this area is easily my favorite in the game, literally jaw dropping
One shudders to imagine what the Flame of Chaos could have become if the Ivory King and his dear Child of Dark failed to put a stop to it.
Izalith’s fire embodies all things aberrant, and what is more unnatural then a flame that never fades?
Even when it was finally extinguished, it's vestiges echoed on in Lothric and an even darker flame took form in a giant-ruled capital.
If the Ivory King and him wife Alsanna had not intervened at the time, the Flame of Chaos would have become just like Abbys.
I still remember that moment- diving down that hole, not knowing what was on the other side. And then suddenly, you see it. Truly breaktaking
DS2 was my first souls game so when i entered this area i was so confused and scared, looks so damn cool too
Say what you will about DS2, the DLC's had some amazing moments
>Say what you will about DS2
DkS2 was the best souls game.
Bloodborne notwithstanding since idk because I can't play it.
@@WhompingWalrus i gotta disagree, if all of dark souls 2 was a good as the dlcs it would potentially be the best one, but unfortunately the main game can be pretty damn weak, especially the first half. It’s a shame, given the proper time and development cycle it would’ve likely have been amazing.
Whenever i see the Old Chaos, it makes me think of a kind of throne room/lair for the Witch of Izalith at the height of her power before the incident
;0
The thumbnail looked like the place below bed of chaos
DS2 is tied for my favorite souls game with 1. It's funny how mad people get when you don't share the same sentiment as them. Enjoy what you enjoy, and don't get pissy when others don't share your preference.
My guy, it's a meme. People that prefer 2 talk endless shit on 3, people that prefer 3 talk endless shit on 2 (me included), but in the end we've all played them all and enjoyed the world.
It's not real. It's funny. It's fake tribalism. Have a laugh sometime.
@@chrismanuel9768 Most of the time its a meme but there are plenty out there who show genuine aggression when you like a DS game they dont or dislike one they do.
This ^^^
Most dramatic boss fight in the darksouls series, imo.
This is what happens when you accidentally leave the stove on at home.
“I DoNt lIke DS2 bEcAuSe nO sTupid HaT fAsHioN sOulS” Zullie
*Entire DS2 fan base cocks guns in unison*
“I’d like to apologize” Zullie
I actually think dark souls 2 has the most interesting and beautiful locations of all souls games. Lots of variety.
Yeah, I agree. This is especially true in this game's DLC areas, where the team got to build everything from scratch instead of working with the scraps of the previous team.
If only we had seen what the final DS2 team could have done had they been there from the beginning
Yep. Heidi's Tower locale was absolutely beautiful and sad for me.
Same for me. I just get so much more frustrated playing DS2 than I do DS1 or 3, which is a shame.
how
*Miazaki-fanatic NPC reads the thumbnail*
Impossibile, DS2 bad!
looks like every minecraft anarchy server
the oldest
The Old Chaos is just the remains of 2b2t
Finally, Iron Keep Elevator 2.
You can’t hate Dark Souls 2 anymore, it’s not 2014 anymore
What buggers me off is The ds1 fans who criticize DS2 for it's bad boss fight but at the same time praise ds1 who literally has one of the worst bosses in the entire series (excluding the dlcs) Capra demon. That butter fly boss. The entire izalith sucks. Recycled asylum demon bosses. Gwyn who can literally be cheesed by parrying him. AND DON'T EVER FORGET PINWHEEL. Ds1 is such an overrated piece of a an average game. In comparison with DS2. DS2 is easily a better game at least it doesn't have an entire part where the game becomes a shitty tour to hell
@@thelustyargonianmaidhalalv5284 bro ds1 was much easier than ds2 that is why they are crying that much. ds2, ds3 > ds1 period
@@thelustyargonianmaidhalalv5284 and dark souls 2 has coveteus demon which is a mid game boss that dies in 5 hits and can barely attack you. you can say the same for pinwheel, but atleast pinwheel has an intersesting lore while coveteus demon is just a simp. also shrine of amana is 10 times worse than lost izalith if you're a strenght or dex player, there's no denying that.
@@alduinfrI’m denying that.
There's a feeling that always comes back to me when I remember this place.
I didn't recruit loyce knights and plummeted into the arena with 3 summons.
The sight of 3 strength builds perfectly covering eachother was beautiful.
I had a hybrid sword+spear caster so I would engage at a bit more range compared to my team.
Once the king stepped on to the field I sent as many orbs as I could to gain the attention.
And it was glorious.
Everyone fighting in tandem to my attacks when the charred knights had been temporarily cleared,
one mistimed dodge and I took the spinning sweep attack to the face and then boom.
3 running attacks.
He used his close range ice aoe and I sent another volley of dark orbs.
And as soon as his health dropped to a quarter... We no longer focused on the charred coming in.
We just swarmed.
And once he fell. We all jumped into a group and cheered.
Single best experience on dark souls
@Zullie, show me your favourite places in DS1 and 3
It is interesting to see how much the Chaos grew up even without the Witch
The DLCs in 2 are generally pretty great imo.
50 loyce's souls flashback
this probably was like one of the best moments in ds2
0:46 A magma utero with fallopian tubes and all? Good grief they sealed that, I wonder what monstrousities would have been born from that hellish place
I just finished this area recently had to git gud and summon like a puss for this fight because that gank sequence was giving me an aneurysm
Still farming their souls
you got the order wrong then, first you get summoned to farm the souls, then when youre at around 30 you start doing the boss yourself and summon others to get them farming. once you get the 50 souls you just dont dismiss the bros and sis's and instead point at the enemy.
i had a jolly good time doing that last week.
@@NooobLP
Its also a good thing that i had a ring that decreases poise so 1 murakumo hit staggered them its also best to avoid the caster's fire whip because that thing will oblitirate your health
The set i had are
Symbol of avarice
Havel armor
Tseldora gloves
Vengarl legs
Murakumo
@@NooobLP
Is the bone fist a good weapon against molden the ass-assin?
Ah yes, the place that took my sanity away and never gave it back
This thing is probably related to the concept of "Qliphoth" from Kabbalah, specifically the ideas around the source of evil and the qliphot tree/dark tree, hence the roots, I guess.
Not gonna lie among my top 5 boss fights in the entire From catalogue
With all its flaws, ds2 is still my favourite. And it isn't nostalgia talking cause I played all the 3 games in order this year.
Stayd3D's alteration of this area looks absolutely incredible. It's amazing what some color grading/shading tweaks can do for a scene!
Dark Souls 2 is a great game with amazing DLC
Terribly underrated, it definitely has flaws but it gets way to much hate for not being a carbon copy of ds1
The base game has shitty level design for the most part, but the DLC locations are the best in the trilogy.
It's a great game, has similar problems to DS1 but spattered everywhere instead of concentrated in the last few areas like DS1. If it wasn't called dark souls 2 and was a 'spinoff' or something I feel like people would be much less mad about it, DS3 is the true sequel to the first game - then again people call it endless references in DS3 so I guess you can't win with everyone.
@@TheMirksta Yeah it's a good game, but not a great souls game is how most people put it. I think most people just hate how odd the game feels when in combat. Adaptability being a stat was... weird... Certain enemies being able to cancel their own animations and do jank shit wasn't too good. Some parts feel cheap in the challenge that they offer. There's like.... 3 different poison levels...
Still has great aesthetic and has dope ass weapons and armor. DLC was great. Despite the whole "geographical" consistency issue, the zones are pretty fuckin cool. The misty forest with invisible assassins always makes my butthole pucker up. And most importantly... GAVLIN WHEEL GAVLIN DEAL
This is among my favorite areas too, and tied with Fume Knight for my favorite boss in 2. I always beat the king right away on NG and immediately ascetic so that I get double souls while I farm Loyce Souls lol.
Thanks for showing us around Zullie, such a cool arena!
This place feels like something I shouldn't have seen.
There’s something so unsettling yet ethereal at the same time about this place.
Lore wise I find it strange that choas has gotten stronger between darksouls 1 and 2 but weaker between 2 and 3.
i wonder if it has something to do with the age of fire though, maybe the chaos flame and the first flame are in some sort of competition, and since dark souls 2 is in an age of dark the chaos flame can spread easier?
In 2 many of the entities perpetuate chaos, in 3 many of the entities perpetuate entropy, finality and ending.
The series goes a lot like the lifespan of a mortal life. In infancy, it is adorable, loveable and likeable by nearly all, a promise of the future and a bright example of what can be. In its mid life, it made decisions and took actions we wouldn't have expected from looking st its infancy. Some were good, some great, other bad, and some horrible. Nearing the end if its life it came full circle. The realization of the end in sight, time ticking away, lapping at the waters of life that yet remain within, drying them up. An appreciation of finality and the ultimate result of entropy, the inevitable return to dark.
Maybe the Ivory King succeeded in the end
I've read somewhere that it got weaker between 2 and 3 because the Ivory King managed to get Alsanna to guard the chaos flame, weakening it with the power of dark. Which is a nice explanation to why the demons are going extinct in Dark Souls 3.
A person with great training (the Witch of Izalith) still screwed up and let Chaos Fire get out of control. It was likely also contained from spreading by the dome around Izalith. DS2 is what happens when a novice (The Lost Sinner, heavily implied to be a former Head Priestess of Eleum Loyce) messes with forces she doesn't understand and starts a raging fire that can't be contained. It's akin to those fires that start in coal mines that will burn uncontrollably underground feeding off the coal veins for decades or centuries.
Imagine building your kingdom on top of a portal to hell and thinking "This is fine".
Ds2 is pretty good overall
Well it tries to be it just lacks alot of polish
The Old Chao's inclusion brings this dlc from a pretty great one to a stellar one. Its sad to see people not talk about the things Dark Souls 2 did, which one of those was the dlc. Like you said the pacing was great, the calm before the giant storm that awaits at the bottom. Eleum Loyce is great.
I like how in the ambient track you can single out one poor, tormented soul, lost in the chaos and crying out, "sheeeeesh"
Its the closest thing to literal hell since DOOM.
I agree this is really cool but Ash Lake will always be my favorite
Old choes looks a lot like where u kill the bed of choes in dark souls 1
Unpopular opinion: Dks2 was the best of the series even with it's flaws. Every souls games has flaws, so...
Dks3 felt pale in comparison to the other two games and the fact that it looked a lot like Bloodborne in terms of texture bothered me a lot.
3 used a lot of assets from bloodborne and it's also the most linear of all the games, 3 also buried its self in the fan service of one where as 2 expanded on the concept.
Fun fact, the original release of DS3 had a big chunk of Central Yharnam / the Cathedral Ward in the game files. So it might very well not just LOOK LIKE BB, but straight-up reuse stuff. (It's been patched out now, sadly. At least the chalice dungeon known as the Demon Ruins is still there)
I have a tough time identifying any single one as the best of the series, but I can absolutely respect this opinion. All great games with small flaws.
I love DS2 with a passion def my favorite of the 3.
The 3rd one is my least favorite, it feels incomplete and I don't have much fun playing it.
The first is ok, I like the locations alot
@@Ghost-Mom the fanservice really killed it for me. All sense of grand time Is lost with how everyone seems to know place forgotten in just the last game
So my brain saw the flowing chaos, the groans of despair and iconic arena and thought
the ol' chaos
not the old chaos
the ol' chaos
I like to imagine that you aren’t a real human, and that you’re just a spirit traveling through the internet that can manifest as video game characters and can record TH-cam videos, so you calling this your favorite place is very literal.
I like the area with the large vertical columns before the wyvern boss
This place almost makes playing dark souls 2 worth it
Wish we could have seen more/some of lost Izalith in the background though.
Honestly, I think after Dark souls 1, dark souls 2 has the most fun looking areas, obviously they have a bunch of issues like ugly textures but I just love their vibe. Dark Souls 3 is a good game but I find the areas pretty boring. It doesn't have a Dragon Aerie, a Majula, ect
Majula was good but dragon aerie was a pretty bad area tbh, design and flow-wise. It's even got a freaking statue at the end of a rope bridge for literally zero reason, and the dragon's purpose in lore and in game mechanics is pretty bland. The castle itself has one single hidden/interesting path and is extremely difficult to do anything besides simply run to Ancient Dragon over and over.
I think the Bastille, Heide, Forest of Fallen giants fort, and Tseldora areas are some of the most fun to traverse and play around in, with some of the most interesting visuals. (not counting DLC areas because obviously those are S-tier designs)
Ds2 is helped a lot by it's art direction, and especially his usage of colors. A lot of ruined areas, with dull colors contrasted with bright and colorful colors, lovely.
@@Rakshael but dragon kool D:
@@lopde1290 hahaha not when i smash the eggs and walk across the bridge >:(
It may not be realistic-looking lava but at least it's not harmful for the eyes. Looking (barely) at you, molten lasagna of PtDE Demon Ruins.
Best souls 2
Very pretty, if only it made any sense, or was explained why this dimension of Chaos it's located below eleum loyce, who made it, anything really
Lately I've been farming Loyce souls, and I was curious- Does increasing item drop rate actually affect Loyce souls? Sounds like common sense but theres a lot of inconsitency online and personally I see no real difference.
For what I understand, the Loyce souls aren't affected by drop rate boosts, so you get more armor and weapons, but not really more souls
Idk, but I always used farming gear when I went in to get them and it took me a few hours to farm 50.
Eleum Loyce and the Old Chaos fight is easily my favorite experience in ALL of Dark Souls. I loved that you had to go around and rally a crew of old knights together, then you got to show up as a whole squad and fight side by side to take on the Old Chaos.
"Sometimes Dark Souls 2 is alright'
NO ZULLIE, don't give any ammo whatsoever to the Dark Souls 2 Defense Squad! They're insane. They'll kill us all.
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
Maybe all that magma is flowing into ash lake leading to the creation of the smoldering lake in DS3? Just food for thought.
Honestly I feel like dark souls 2 could have been one of the best games if it wasn't for the soul memory thing and the fact a elevator takes you up to a lava kingdom in the sky lol
Plus some hit boxes issues.
@@d.f.7397 personally i've never had any hit box issues for ds2
@@DarkChibiWeebie Mimics can grab you if you are behind them. This one is clunky enough, and that's without mentioning the ADP mechanic which is super weird. Dark Souls 2 was my first Souls game and I love it, but some elements are too strange to fit with the level of work Dark Souls 1 offers. It makes a frustrating contrast.
@@d.f.7397 is this for sotfs or for orig ds2? and i can't even remember what adp was again tbh
@@DarkChibiWeebie First sin. ADP increases your invincibility frames when you roll, making default roll weak.
I wish I knew the more behind the old chaos. It’s really cool.
jesus without being focused on enemies or the boss this place is fucking terrifying
..........also DS2 is the best of the soulsborne games
Ah yes, screaming in pain ambient
Dark Souls 2 is my least favorite of my three favorite games.
Dark Souls 3 is one of the most boring games I've ever played.
@@FeekyChucker incorrect opinion
@@guppysam If you enjoy playing crap games then power to you bro 👌🏻
@@FeekyChucker incorrect opinion
Honestly the moment when THE OLD CHAOS pops up as you fall and you just see the sheer scale of the whole area might be my favorite visual in the whole Dark Souls franchise
Most things about the game aspect of Dark Souls 2 are excruciatingly mediocre or downright awful but i just can't hate on the art design and music it has, they are genuinely beautiful for the most part.
"Looks nice, plays awfully" is something that can be said about nearly all DS2 areas unfortunately.
@Long Sub I think DS2 has a solid soundtrack, out of the trilogy I'd put it below DS3 but above DS1 in terms of music. And I think the areas are more visually appealing than they are in DS3 since alot of DS3 has a washed out, greyish look. But DS1 has more visually appealing and fun to play through areas than DS2 and DS3 imo. DS3 by far has the best bosses and enemy design in the series.
@Long Sub Oh absolutely.
I've played all Soulsborne games many times and agree with everything you just said 100%, i just wanted to be a little more positive towards my most hated game probably ever lol.
@Long Sub I think DS2 has some good boss themes like Sir Alonne, Majula, Old Dragonslayer, Fume Knight, Darklurker and Aldia although I do think Gwyn's theme is the best of the series, I just like more of DS2's boss themes I guess, shame the bosses that came with them weren't always up to par with the music.
The fact that the witch of izalith spawned all of THAT is terrifying