I second on that. In addition 1. prefer the switching logic, no wrong button even with winter gloves and 2. 46 ring fits better to my capabilities as old recreatinal cyclist.
@@michaelk.920 With Di2 you can set up the buttons to match the SRAM shifting, (both left buttons for a lower gear, both right buttons for a higher gear and syncro shift for the front mech). Plus you can put a 11-40t cassette on the back - perfect for old recreational cyclists like us :). Plus it's cheaper, lighter, more aero and more efficient.
Been a long time Shimano guy. Just picked up a Checkpoint SL7 with eTap and love it. Like the intuitiveness of the shifting and the crisp shifting. Granted this is their Mullet group, but really like the eTap system.
I think Specialised are smart to go into non-UCI approved bikes. They seem to the the first. Expect more big frame manufactures to do the same and we'll see much better pricing.
Oddly enough I didn't feel inclined toward any of the bikes shown until the TCR was posted. That's an awesome bike, probably the best mid-level road bike ever made. Interesting the Shimano/SRAM debate; as a long time Campagnolo fan it's always a shame to see these types of review and to see no Campagnolo equipped bikes present. Maybe a video on Campag equipped bikes?
The aethos is actually the lightest disc brake bike you can buy for all of its price brackets which makes it a very attractive option if you are a weight weenie.
Hi, I don't have an FB account so can't contact you that way. I'm wondering if you could do a comparison at 4 endurance bikes, with speed and comfort being important factors. 1.Orbea Orca M25 Team Ultegra Di2 (good customization available on Orbea website) 2. Rose Reveal 6 Ultegra Di2 (i'm in the EU so Rose will deliver!) 3. Ribble Endurance SL R Disc Ultegra Di2 4. Cannondale Synapse Carbon Ultegra Di2 (only one colour available it seems and it ain't nice) Thanks for the comparison videos to date.
The Aethos to me looks like it was inspired by an old Specialized Allez (circa 2008) but with disc brakes. As for the eTap AXS groupsets, I wasn’t a huge fan of the original eTap 11spd, so it’s not really for me. But I’ve heard some opinions that the 1x Force system is quite beneficial though.
Giant TCR over any of those bikes (and I'm not a Giant fanboy). I wouldn't spend money on any Italian bike, they just don't seem to be able to design with carbon (witness the Wilier nubbin for instance).
My three years old Cannondale Synapse has that nubbin. And it's not that big as it is on the Willier. Their design team has definitely been a bit too lazy it seems. And oh yes. GIANT TCR for me too. 😉
Not true! My dad eats burgers and panckas and sugar all the time and drinks Cola and soda exclusively, drinks 1 liter of coffee every day, he is 70 yo old this month. he never drunk water in his entire life. I eat organic vegetables, fruits , organic fish and take vitamins etc no alcohol no sugar , work out etc. yet he is in a better shape, and has a stronger stomach than I ever had. God bless him.
I would buy a Cannondale supersix 2018 Hi-Mod or a Caad 12 with sram red 10speed and some light wheels at half the price and then take the bike on a holiday with me with the left over money. This may turn out to be a bit if a flop for the brand🤷♂️
I can't say I wouldn't spend $8000 on a bicycle because I already have but mine is a custom geometry titanium frame built the way I wanted it, has the exact components I like which is Dura Ace 9170 and the Dura Ace carbon wheels. It has a titanium stem, bars, and seatpost. And some other bits and bobs of my choosing. It's not cheezy carbon that would only last a few years so my bike should last a life time. I can't understand why anyone would pay that kind of money for carbon and cheap paint jobs.
Not a fan of SRAM, but test rode a 2021 Trek with eTap. Two words... IT SUX. Why design a drive train that requires input from both levers? Its quick response is moot when it upshifts and you wanted to downshift.
hit the nails on the head with your points on the AXS groupsets. Add that the chainrings are explosively expensive and that adds up to me never owning one.
Specialized makes the lower end Atheos in crap colors... who wants a pink bike? or powder blue? Giant is almost always be best value. Plus Giant still makes a rim brake model... and ALL 3 GRAND TOURS WERE WON ON RIM BRAKES... AND ALL 3 BY SEPERATE TEAMS... AND THE BEST FUNDED TEAM IN PRO CYCLING WILL RIDE RIM BRAKES AGAIN IN 2021. #discbrakesareheavy
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Closest thing to Aethos in terms of geometry is indeed Giant TCR. VERY SIMILAR. Would be good to have a deeper comparison between these 2.
Wouldn't be surprised if Giant actually made those frames for Specialized.
@@Kenneth7ster merida does them
Glad you did a video on this. Wondering about the Scott addict too
Thank you for the great content! Always excited when a new video drops!
The Aethos looks very bland to my eyes but I'm not the target market so it's irrelevant. Nice video thanks.
Force ETAP user here. Been very happy with it, love having no wires or cables.
I second on that. In addition 1. prefer the switching logic, no wrong button even with winter gloves and 2. 46 ring fits better to my capabilities as old recreatinal cyclist.
Some friend told me the force actually performs better than the red on axs. The red got some issue on its big ring shifting
@@michaelk.920 With Di2 you can set up the buttons to match the SRAM shifting, (both left buttons for a lower gear, both right buttons for a higher gear and syncro shift for the front mech). Plus you can put a 11-40t cassette on the back - perfect for old recreational cyclists like us :). Plus it's cheaper, lighter, more aero and more efficient.
Excellent as always. Waiting for a Scott Addict/Foil 2019/20/21 comparison :)
Terrific video-----you delve deeper than a Morian Dwarf! I have an Everti titanium at 7 kg and that's light enough for me.
I'm interested in the Cinelli Superstar, do you plan on doing reviews on the Cinelli bikes?
Interesting comparison for the group set bit!
Aethos is just an expensive TCR. I would love to own a TCR some day
Hang on, is the SRAM RD at 2:50 just in a different cog? That wouldn’t be entirely fair :)
Been a long time Shimano guy. Just picked up a Checkpoint SL7 with eTap and love it. Like the intuitiveness of the shifting and the crisp shifting. Granted this is their Mullet group, but really like the eTap system.
I think Specialised are smart to go into non-UCI approved bikes. They seem to the the first. Expect more big frame manufactures to do the same and we'll see much better pricing.
Oddly enough I didn't feel inclined toward any of the bikes shown until the TCR was posted. That's an awesome bike, probably the best mid-level road bike ever made. Interesting the Shimano/SRAM debate; as a long time Campagnolo fan it's always a shame to see these types of review and to see no Campagnolo equipped bikes present. Maybe a video on Campag equipped bikes?
Any chance you could do a video of the cheapest bikes with a 105 groupset and disc brakes?
Giant TCR...best bang for the buck
The aethos is actually the lightest disc brake bike you can buy for all of its price brackets which makes it a very attractive option if you are a weight weenie.
the old Specialissima is soo beautiful. Hopefully the release of this new ugly bike means some idiot will sell me the old one for cheap :))
Yeah! See the possibilities in the darkness
Hi, I don't have an FB account so can't contact you that way. I'm wondering if you could do a comparison at 4 endurance bikes, with speed and comfort being important factors.
1.Orbea Orca M25 Team Ultegra Di2 (good customization available on Orbea website)
2. Rose Reveal 6 Ultegra Di2 (i'm in the EU so Rose will deliver!)
3. Ribble Endurance SL R Disc Ultegra Di2
4. Cannondale Synapse Carbon Ultegra Di2 (only one colour available it seems and it ain't nice)
Thanks for the comparison videos to date.
I'm not sure if ACR is from FSA in fact
(and both companies - FSA and Vision work very close together and even share the same offices)
The Aethos to me looks like it was inspired by an old Specialized Allez (circa 2008) but with disc brakes.
As for the eTap AXS groupsets, I wasn’t a huge fan of the original eTap 11spd, so it’s not really for me. But I’ve heard some opinions that the 1x Force system is quite beneficial though.
We're still anticipating your follow up of "I'm thinking of buying a new bike"! sir Bikotic
I'v started it, next few weeks hopefully
Giant TCR over any of those bikes (and I'm not a Giant fanboy). I wouldn't spend money on any Italian bike, they just don't seem to be able to design with carbon (witness the Wilier nubbin for instance).
He kept the best deal until the end, the Giant with Di2 would be my choice.
My three years old Cannondale Synapse has that nubbin. And it's not that big as it is on the Willier. Their design team has definitely been a bit too lazy it seems.
And oh yes. GIANT TCR for me too. 😉
If you fed Big Macs to your family for 2 years they would die. Lol 😂
... and then he could afford an Aethos out of the insurance. I see a method in the madness!
@@treyquattro 😂🤣
Not true! My dad eats burgers and panckas and sugar all the time and drinks Cola and soda exclusively, drinks 1 liter of coffee every day, he is 70 yo old this month. he never drunk water in his entire life. I eat organic vegetables, fruits , organic fish and take vitamins etc no alcohol no sugar , work out etc. yet he is in a better shape, and has a stronger stomach than I ever had. God bless him.
Compare it with the whole canyon ultimate range.
I would go dir the Giants TCR.
Box the was Rose Bikes are also very good value for money!
i'll wait for future giant tcr with all internal cockpit. Then its going to look more like the aethos, and cheaper.
Giant TCR for me
would likely take an Aethos frame / fork only and get tubeless wheels to suit and go from there....
I would buy a Cannondale supersix 2018 Hi-Mod or a Caad 12 with sram red 10speed and some light wheels at half the price and then take the bike on a holiday with me with the left over money. This may turn out to be a bit if a flop for the brand🤷♂️
Like the old Spacialissima much better.
Ha. First! I'm the fastest:P
edit: great vid, quite interesting. I prefer the Di2 because it's faster.
I can't say I wouldn't spend $8000 on a bicycle because I already have but mine is a custom geometry titanium frame built the way I wanted it, has the exact components I like which is Dura Ace 9170 and the Dura Ace carbon wheels. It has a titanium stem, bars, and seatpost. And some other bits and bobs of my choosing. It's not cheezy carbon that would only last a few years so my bike should last a life time. I can't understand why anyone would pay that kind of money for carbon and cheap paint jobs.
I would rather shimano any day of the week. Brands should always give people a choice.
Giant :D
ARSE! Always Ride Shimano, Eh?
CHAPTER 2 HURU with new branding
Not a fan of SRAM, but test rode a 2021 Trek with eTap. Two words...
IT SUX.
Why design a drive train that requires input from both levers? Its quick response is moot when it upshifts and you wanted to downshift.
Sram kind of fucked their sales when the largest chainring you can get for it is a 50t
the aethos is like if bugati released their version of a honda civic
hit the nails on the head with your points on the AXS groupsets. Add that the chainrings are explosively expensive and that adds up to me never owning one.
Sram stuff has always felt uglier and more awkward than Shimano. Unfortunately, most of my bikes are fitted with SRAM groupsets; it'll do.
shimano over sram any day (except for the day where you have to build up your bike)
Aurum Magma is money down the drain
Just buy a a tcr advanced 2 and upgrade yourself, no better frame than the tcr
Specialized makes the lower end Atheos in crap colors... who wants a pink bike? or powder blue? Giant is almost always be best value. Plus Giant still makes a rim brake model... and ALL 3 GRAND TOURS WERE WON ON RIM BRAKES... AND ALL 3 BY SEPERATE TEAMS... AND THE BEST FUNDED TEAM IN PRO CYCLING WILL RIDE RIM BRAKES AGAIN IN 2021. #discbrakesareheavy
I think all Specialized bikes are not great value for the money
AXS is less efficient as well as mechnically build much worse. Would never buy Sram.
ANYTHING OVER 3K$ IS A WAIST OF MONEY
Wouldn’t buy any. All ugly