All Christian Churches should talk about this in the pulpit. It will be uncomfortable for many but it must be done. There is too much immorality in the church.
Interesting how this was posted literally the same day I got an invitation to my friends wedding and I was about to mail the invitation back to them before I saw this video. Perfect timing for godly advice and counsel, thank you for this video. This makes me rethink my choice because I didn’t feel peace about it before anyways and now this helps me see the issues with these kind of marriages.
I was in a relationship with my a roman catholic guy. For 3 years and we were friends for 3 years before that. I found Christ last April (non Christian family here) and before that I loathed religion of all kinds. But when I accepted Jesus into my heart I felt delivered from all kinds of sinful behaviour. I didn't even swear anymore....it just couldn't leave my mouth at all. I was still intimate with my boyfriend for 2 months afterward but it felt really bad....I was hating myself and thinking...."how on earth will I tell him I don't want to sleep with him anymore?". But I couldn't be unfaithful to Christ anymore. We are now both back to being in a friendship state. I truly believe that the Lord has separated us to get closer with Him and develop a relationship with Him first. If he brings us back together in marriage I don't know but I have left it in His hands. My "boyfriend" now is closer to the Lord also. We are on a separate journey but support each other still. It's not that hard once you truly place life circumstances into His hands. God BLESS all who read this and who don't.
So In a less wordy conclusion : going to the Straight wedding is based on wether the two living in fornication realize and confess it was wrong and/or persude/preach against such a shameful mistake such as theirs. But if they are like , “ oh we are just finally getting married just because it was time ” but the Couple still sees nothing wrong with fornication than No, we should not attend because they still aren’t living the truth in heir hearts... GOD BLESS ! I Was blessed by this ! .
@@frankcarrijo Frank, not so much judging , but everyone is learning Our father’s judgements. Haven’t you seen the word FEAR the Lord , oh like over 100 times in the Bible ?. And Everyone is at different stages of their walk Frank... and it sounded like you were judging weren’t you ? you see , no one can avoid having judgements.. so long as they are righteous and not Pharisee based it’s all encouraged everywhere in the Bible Frank. So the only question here is, Was yours judgment righteous ? Regardless, Love your from a far brother ! Maranatha .
My son’s father refused to attend my son and daughter in law’s wedding because they lived together before marriage and that the wedding was non religious. My son’s father and his wife also lived together for many years before they got married. My son’s father knocked me up when I was 18 and basically said good luck. My son’s father converted to Christianity when our son was 14. Until that point he did not care to see my son. He petitioned the court to establish paternity. All my son’s father received was visitation. He asked to take my son to church I left that decision up to my son. My son didn’t like church so he didn’t go. My Dad and stepmom were married 18 years before she passed. Before their marriage they lived together for 5 years. My three sets of aunts and uncles all lived together before marriage. The longest of the marriages has lasted over 40 years. The shortest of the marriages has lasted over 25 years. Another thing all 4 of those marriages have in common that none of them stepped into a church the whole time. My husband and I have been together 8 years and lived together 5 years before we were married. A marriage doesn’t have to have a god at the center to survive it takes shared goals. Now my son refuses to see his father. My Dad and stepmom watched my son while I worked. My Dad went to all the father son events at school. My Dad was the one who invested his time effort and energy from birth into my son. My Dad passed a couple of years ago. My husband and my son’s father in law stepped up for my son when he got married. My son also refuses to see his Dad and Stepmom. His stepmom did not attend his high school or college graduation. My husband was there both times. My daughter in law put boundaries on both my son’s father and his wife because of the disrespect that my son and her were shown.
I was asked to be witness at an unchristian "free wedding ceremony" and didn't know how to respond. I was carrying this question with me for days.... guess I will lose two long time friends now though.... nevertheless, I thank you God for showing me this video, the answer is clear. 🙏
Thank you for this. My best friend from childhood is getting married and he invited me. I feel like I should not go and do not have peace about it and have been praying that God please show me how to handle this. I do not want to dishonor God, I want to glorify Him and be a good example but at the same time I do not want to upset all my friends because I have mentioned not going to several people yet they do not understand my reasoning. I might show this video to my friend who is getting married and I pray that maybe the Lord will speak to him through this video’s message. Thank you Pastor John and all the brothers and sisters at Desiring God for providing wonderful counsel and biblical advice for nearly all situations. Praise God for such an incredible group of believers who seek to teach others and lead them to Christ through all these internet resources!
Of course. These days you wouldn't attend any weddings straight or gay if you refused people who live together before they are married. A minister doesn't marry a couple. They marry each other when they first come together. BTW I also fully support same sex marriage. I was a Baptist Pastor years ago.
I am so sad! My friend from childhood was a Christian, but a couple of years ago she decided to marry a refugee from Syria and become a muslim. She asked me to design a wedding invitation on photoshop and I did, I didn't want to do that nor attend the wedding, but I did both. I designed the invitation pretty quickly to get rid of it and felt pressured to go to the wedding, because I knew if I missed it, it would crush her. I attended it but left early, I just wanted to stay away from the whole thing. I should've said no, to both actions, I put man above God, because i was afraid of the reprecursion, even though I hated doing that every step of the way. I hope He can forgive me!! I am so sad!!
Fabia Dutra I once felt saddened about a situation with a friend who I thought was a Christian. I was also conflicted about whether to attend or not but after a week or so of wrestling, I realised that the issue was not so much attending or not, but I was actually deeply sad to know that I had not ever acknowledged that they were not Christians and I was also grieved because I had never actually shared the Gospel with them or had meaningful discussions about faith I dunno if that’s what u are feeling but just thought to share
TAS Selah yeah It's pretty much the same thing, however we would talk about our faith, that's why it was so shocking to me when she decided to turn her back on Jesus. But one thing is true, we'll never know somebody heart, only God can see what really goes on inside each and everyone of us!
My twin brother is marrying with his girlfriend, they've been dating for 5 or 6 years they are going to get married soon in May. I am a Christian and my parents as well. My brother grew up in the Christian church but his decision was the world so he has never received Jesus in his heart. I am being pressured because we've been so close to each other and I know in my consciousness is wrong, but I don't want to deny the invitation because he's my brother in blood. I don't want him to feel bad if I reject his invitation, he messaged me today if I wanted to be part of it and I said it would be an honor, but deep inside I feel sad and pressured. Please someone give me advice 😔, it's hard for me. Anything would help me.
@@jennprescott2757 my brother has told me before that they've had sex before marriage, I did reach out to one of my mentors in church and he said go because he's your brother and be there for him at the ceremony but once they start doing there party like drinking and dancing he said then leave because that's not a place for a Christian.
Attending a wedding for couples living together isn't a sin. Just because they live together doesn't mean they're having sex. Or if they are maybe they're repenting by getting married.
Why would you allow your wife to be best friends with a lesbian? Cut that relationship off with the best friend, and do not attend that Blasphemous fake wedding.
@@vanessaverner8480 As a Christian man, I lead my wife, I am her head. If she was friends with a person who is an ungodly influence, I would tell her it needs to stop. My wife is a biblical woman, so she submits to my word. Paul said, “ Do not be deceived: “Bad company corrupts good morals.” “ - 1 Corinthians 15:33
@@Spurgeon_General my husband doesn’t care what my last name is. My husband also doesn’t tell me what to do. We discuss our life plans and goals. However, I am not ordered to do anything. My dad didn’t order my stepmom around either. Does the wife bleat like a good little sheep? My husband does not pick my friends. Guess what I don’t pick his friends either.
What if the marriage is between 2 unbelievers living in fornication? My cousin is getting married he grew up in church but Im not sure if he claims to be a Christian or not?
What happens if they marry after some time due to financial issues and family issues, but have had sex for first time together, and will never do it with someone else is it a sin? After all the bible has made this laws to teach ppl to have only one life partner and not many?
N P Hello, I assume you are not in preschool and is able to search through your own bible for it. What I meant when I said “that’s what the bible says” are. just. that. What Pastor John mentioned the verse from 1 Corinthians 5:11-13. *”I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people- not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler-not even to eat with such a one.”* Now, for me personally I don’t judge anybody or preach “all those things are wrong!!” Or whatever who are/were living together, had sex together, all other whatever sin. All sins are equal in the eyes of the Lord (Matthew 7:1-5, 1 John 3:15, Romans 3:23;2:11 and such) Pastor John said “Now, having said all that, I think it is ordinarily wrong to attend the ceremony of the so-called gay marriage. But I think it is *ordinarily right* to attend the ceremony of a couple who has been living in sin, but in marrying are not in principle sinning.” I am not saying don’t attend, I’m saying Pastor John quoted some scriptures. And if you have doubts find it for yourself. And please.. if you came here just to demand where in the bible !!where in the bible!!! Before confirming it yourself (or at the verrryyyy least a google search) shows you didn’t come with an open heart. As I’ve said in my comment. Don’t just cry out where in the bible?!?! Pray to God and let Him show you through His word and He would open your heart for it. And I don’t mean to open a debate of what is and what not. *Just. Read. The. Bible.* Pastor John or anyone else is *not* responsible for our salvation. We are ourselves are. Peace.
@@ChuckDownfield2727Philippians 2:5 says to live like christ. There is no reason for us to believe that Christ would celebrate a sinful lifestyle. Before I was a True Believer I attended a gay wedding reception. I said the same thing a lot of so-called Christians say. I said I'm just celebrating the love between these people there's no reason to be hateful. Said there is a reason to be hateful God hates The Sinner when we sin . Please understand this is God's word and it is perfect and beautiful no matter what our contention deceitful Hearts tell us. The world can be very convincing if we do not keep our eyes on God's word❤
One area for thought, the concerns me. Is that the caller claimed that his wife's best friend was a lesbian. Understand that a lesbian woman looks at another woman the same way or in a similar manner that a man looks at a woman. My question would be should or would a man want his wife's best friend to be a man other than yourself. In my experience situations like this always lead to problems. And we also have someone who is best friends, with a person who is in purposeful and active Rebellion against God. Usually we find it our friends influence us more then we influence them. Remember the old adage birds of a feather flock together.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them. 1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? 2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? 3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence. 4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? 5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it? 6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination? 7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here? 8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die? 9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? 10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging
Obviously you're trolling and dont even care for an answer but ill give you one anyways that answers pretty much all of them. Those are old covenant laws that applied to a specific people at a specific time and are not binding to Christians
Such hypocrisy so he's basically saying no don't go to the church where the same sex marriage couple is having their wedding but it's okay to go to the wedding where the couple is having sex before marriage... Last time I checked in the Bible those two couples are doing something the wrong and if they're your friends you're going to base your whole friendship on both ends which you of course have sinned because you're not Jesus you're not perfect.. if you only go to the wedding of the heterosexual couple then you're a big hypocrite it should be that black or white and no in between
The difference is the fact that marriage is a thing God created for a man and a woman. It's a religious ceremony and should be kept in its original state of religious purity.
The bible does not say a Christian family member close to one of the gay partners should Never go to a gay union labeled by the government a wedding . It does not say that and it does not say it’s murder . And no common sense Christian who is committed to scriptural integrity thinks going is an agreement or support . It is messy and it is complex but Not always a no do not go . Christian go and do a lot of things with their children that they do but do not agree with --to leave the door open for repentance and forgiveness if and even the time comes . That happens ! And it’s not a sin . This is why Begg said what he did . And the ridiculous attacks publicly on the internet are gross and sinful . You tubers who have no idea what they are say who assume things make up scenarios they think point to how it was wrong ! Garbage greedy click bait we all know it shame on them
I was at the wedding of a couple who lived together before being married. I was a little kid back then, but my mother told me that living together like that was not a good idea, but didn't go into the details of why. Here is another question: should a Christian attend the wedding of someone who has been divorced for unbiblical grounds, and getting married a second time?
Go to the wedding. It's them leaving sin. It's a piece of paper. God says what is marriage. A man and a woman joining in that way is marriage. They are know just getting a piece of paper. Being friends with lgbt is not sinning, going into it is. We must do acts out of love not out of wanting to be "right". If being friends with 'betty" and her girlfriend can bring them to Christ. Do it. BUT if you are doing it for likes on facebook or tictock. You can not support it or approve it.
God said to love one another, and if you love others like yourself won't you be offended if someone refused your gift just because of religious views, I think you might accept a gift as long as it's not linked to evil intents or idolatry. At least accept it then see what you would do with it if you feel its harming you in some way.
It may be to show her husband what christ is like by the way she lives. She may put up with this kind of treatment, not because it is pleasing to her but because she loves Christ and she loves her husband enough to show him the love of Jesus Christ. As in 1 peter 3: 1-2 1 In the same way, you wives, be submissive to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word, they may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives, 2 as they observe your chaste and respectful behavior.
The Good Samaritan story- will you ask if he's a Christian before you help him? All the missionary's in the world and EVERYONE that helps the poor - do they ask if they are Christians before they help them? Are you Christians living in caves? You read your bible, I hope, you are spirit filled, I hope and yet you ask feeble questions online?!what do your hearts tell you to do? Which The Lord sees and knows about, by the way. Phew! 😩
I believe there’s a difference between helping the poor and needy and entertaining deliberate sin. Gay marriage: biblically immoral, therefore, witnessing this without objection places you in contentment of sin. Heterosexual fornication: also biblically immoral, however, the union of the two through repentance glorifies the Father. I don’t believe your heart can tell you what’s absolutely right from wrong; the heart is deceitful and wicked.. being totally depraved we NEED a savior, therefore, we don’t live on bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God; the Word. In order to discern accurately and according to God’s Word John 16:13 says, “When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.” The Holy Spirit resides in the believer and will lead them into all the truth. Therefore, for the believer deciding on whether something is right of wrong and acting on, it is not merited by him but by God through conviction. God bless you, friend.
The church needs to separate themselves from the govt. When it comes to marriage. People don't want to get married even if they are totally committed for life, because it be Chan ones a govt money grab.
If I'm not mistaken doesn't bible say that a couple must only live together and be faithful to be married ? No license needed ? I have two children with my partner own a home no license of marriage but he is my husband and I am his wife .....
@@faithrose4440 God only considers a man and a woman married when they are legally married. The scriptural support typically given for this view is the command to obey the government’s laws (Romans 13:1-7; 1 Peter 2:17). The argument is that, if the government requires certain procedures and paperwork to be completed before a marriage is recognized, then a couple should submit themselves to that process. It is definitely biblical for a couple to submit to the government as long as the requirements do not contradict God’s Word and are reasonable. Romans 13:1-2 tells us, “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.”
@@faithrose4440 A man and a woman are married in God’s eyes when they have completed some kind of formal wedding ceremony. Some interpreters understand God’s bringing Eve to Adam (Genesis 2:22) as God’s overseeing the first wedding “ceremony”-the modern practice of a father giving away his daughter at a wedding reflects God’s action in Eden. In John chapter 2, Jesus attended a wedding ceremony. Jesus would not have attended such an event if He did not approve of what was occurring. Jesus’ presence at a wedding ceremony by no means indicates that God requires a wedding ceremony, but it does indicate that a wedding ceremony is acceptable in God’s sight. Nearly every culture in the history of humanity has observed some kind of formal wedding ceremony. In every culture there is an event, action, covenant, vow, or proclamation that is recognized as declaring a man and woman to be married.
@@faithrose4440 So, what constitutes marriage in God’s eyes? It would seem that the following principles should be followed: 1) As long as the requirements are reasonable and not against the Bible, a man and a woman should seek whatever formal governmental recognition is available. 2) A man and a woman should follow whatever cultural, familial, and covenantal practices are typically employed to recognize a couple as “officially married.” 3) If possible, a man and a woman should consummate the marriage sexually, fulfilling the physical aspect of the “one flesh” principle. This seemed reasonable to me figured I’d send it to you.
I'm confused how your wife's best friend is a lesbian when she doesn't support her lesbian lifestyle and won't attend her wedding. That is hypocritical to me.
@@barbie379 I do befriend people that are indeed different from me in many ways, so you can stop judging me. The question still remains - how can she say this woman who is a lesbian is her best friend and refused to go to her wedding based on her faith. First of all, that would not happen in the real world. If you say you're my best friend yet you refuse to come to my wedding (a best friend would be a matron of honor in the wedding party) then we'd no longer be friends - period.
@@hlb0111 People see things differently and not everyone is like you. Being best friends with someone doesn't mean you have to support their every decision.
That’s because your jesus isn’t the real one. You’ve fancied one in your own imagination, in your own image. The true Jesus Christ of Scripture hates sin and commands that the sinner repent and turn from their wickedness. “I did not come to bring peace, but sword.”
Dorian Wright doesn’t sound like they are pretending to be. Or else they wouldn’t ask the Q. We all wrestle from time to time (at least we should) re such issues
@@tasselah1953 Sometimes we can be too self righteous for our own good. Just seek God, pray for the couple who are about to marry and bless them and celebrate their decision to marry. Nobody is perfect.
Dorian Wright yes or sometimes we can be too self righteous to ask a humble question...I’ve seen it Plus what may be a no-brainer to one believer, may be something another believer wrestles with and yet both have the potential to be self-righteous (Rom 14:3) We are too quick to label ppl as self-righteous, pharisees, hypocrites etc
I cant believe these questions! The 1st century Jews were so zealous that they eventually destroyed themselves with these things. It got so bad, the messiah had to come back to put a stop to it. How bout we celebrate a wedding instead of trying to remove the speck from our brothers eye?
You completely missed the whole post. If you just want to hear what you want to hear how can you take exhortation from leaders that God has put in front of you?
I didn't watch the video, but from the title, I say "are you kidding?". How about this one. Should you attend the wedding of a couple when you know the bride is not a virgin? Ridiculous. Judge the person in the mirror. No one else.
Wait .. why just the bride? Even grooms need to be a virgin you know. If you are referring to couples who have slept with other people or with each other before they were Christians or before their promise purity for Christ then that is judgement. Purity is not only external but most importantly internal. We come to Christ not because we are perfect but as sinful people needing forgiveness. Let's not be like the pharisees, following all those laws yet their hearts are not with and for God. Virgin grooms and brides marry all the time who are not Christians, just traditions or strict parents.
Randy Singleton Amen!! "If any man is without sin cast the first stone". No one has the right to judge, only God who, by the way, loves each of us UNCONDITIONALLY. So live your life as if you've read your bible properly and learn to love yourself and others without judgement.
Watch the video and it answers your question. He gives scripture talking about associating with believers who live in sin. Paul says we as believers have a duty to call out other believers. 1 Corinthians 5 and Galatians 6 are explicit commands to call out brothers and sisters who are living in sin.
They are doing the right thing, those who have not sinned cast the first stone. And for sure they will not consider coming to the Lord ( the ones living together) if u show such arrogance.
With judgment day just around the corner you should not commit this sin. It's called the sin of omission simply by your physical presence that shows approval of them getting married without God's blessing outside the church also if you're a Catholic it is a scandal for you to be there because it shows others who know you're Catholic that it's okay and you support it this is a sin of Scandal by those who know you and see you there going against Church teaching that is two sins you've committed and the third sin is that you go against Church teaching so now you've committed three sins. If you have chrilden who are with you and see this, you've committed another sin against your children and witnessed to them your sin that they will learn from you that it's okay. Now its 4 sins. You can laugh if you want then ignore me but when the Judgment comes it will be difficult to explain away these 4 sins before God almighty and off you go to Eternal fire and burn forever and ever. Of course this is only for traditional catholics todays catholic church is dead its not catholic and has lost the faith so dont listen to any fake priest of todays fake church. Your all falling behind way behind get with the program or burn.
I mean...is it even a question...? What do u have a problem with? Because you think it is a sin to have sex before marriage? Well biblically it is, but why do you bother with someone else’s sin? Feel uncomfy about it? Yes i agree it can be uncomfy. Then make your uncomfortable feeling the sole reason not attending these ceremonies, not biblical reason. Don’t hide your real emotions behind religion. I bet we Christians feel uncomfy about these cuz we judge; becoming God. Christians sing God’s everlasting, unconditional and our brotherly love every day or at least on every sundays, but where is love in this question, in which somebody already made his/her judgement over other people whom Jesus died for.
True brotherly love expresses truth and does not desire they're neighbor to continue in sin. As Christians, we are called to live holy lives pleasing to the Lord.
This has nothing to do with a uncomfy feeling, pastor John used scripture through out this whole post. Don’t close your ears because you think you understand love.
Oh my gosh! Bla de bla, bla. YES, please be a NICE Christian + not a judgemental, critical SUPERCHRISTIAN + attend the wedding of your friend! Who has now decided to do the right thing in the eyes of God, whether they are Christians or not! Give me a break! I love the comment from NoFapPhoenix who said "should we attend the wedding of sinners? " If the answer is no, then that will be the end of weddings!!😂 why oh why complicate such a simple question!
Legalism is like the Pharisees. It's when you make up rules beyond what scripture tells us and unless you follow or other people follow you don't believe they're saved. It's another work based salvation. I think Piper answers this very biblically. It's not black and white. If they believe they're marrying but don't really care about it and would have continued to live together and they are professing Christians. In their minds they don't care about whether they were living sexually immoral. Is it really right to go support them? It is a hard question but I think Piper answered this well.
NoFapPhoenix lol the way this podcast series is going John piper will say no. So focused on the letter of the law and not God’s redemptive “loving us while we were sinners” heart
Sometimes I feel that these sexual rules in the bible was put in because the disciples couldn’t get laid. They couldn’t get laid so they didn’t want the rest of us to either.
God loves EVERYONE. "If any if you are without sin...." It's not up to us to judge who to love! Modern Christianity is so fake and judgemental. Get off your fake thrones and live like Christ is really in you. Live as if you've read you bibles!!.
Psalm 5:5 God hates the sinner when they sin God loves Jacob but hates Esau. Is so incredibly important to make sure we understand the wrath of God. God's word is perfect and beautiful our hearts are deceived buy the world and our own sin. It is important to make sure that we get a thorough understanding of the attributes of God including his wrath. Please understand I am coming from a place where I used to call myself a Christian and celebrated gay weddings but there is no reason for us to ever believe that Christ would want us to celebrate a sinful lifestyle
It is more important to stand for truth than to please people.
All Christian Churches should talk about this in the pulpit. It will be uncomfortable for many but it must be done. There is too much immorality in the church.
Perhaps consider bad things happen because you Christians cry wolf about "immoralities" such as this
very wise counsel coming from Pastor Piper....
Interesting how this was posted literally the same day I got an invitation to my friends wedding and I was about to mail the invitation back to them before I saw this video. Perfect timing for godly advice and counsel, thank you for this video. This makes me rethink my choice because I didn’t feel peace about it before anyways and now this helps me see the issues with these kind of marriages.
Jondude20 you was about to mail the invitation back to them? Nobody does that. That's an insult! I've never known anyone to do that- ever.🙈
I was in a relationship with my a roman catholic guy. For 3 years and we were friends for 3 years before that. I found Christ last April (non Christian family here) and before that I loathed religion of all kinds. But when I accepted Jesus into my heart I felt delivered from all kinds of sinful behaviour. I didn't even swear anymore....it just couldn't leave my mouth at all. I was still intimate with my boyfriend for 2 months afterward but it felt really bad....I was hating myself and thinking...."how on earth will I tell him I don't want to sleep with him anymore?". But I couldn't be unfaithful to Christ anymore. We are now both back to being in a friendship state. I truly believe that the Lord has separated us to get closer with Him and develop a relationship with Him first. If he brings us back together in marriage I don't know but I have left it in His hands. My "boyfriend" now is closer to the Lord also. We are on a separate journey but support each other still. It's not that hard once you truly place life circumstances into His hands. God BLESS all who read this and who don't.
Thank you, pastor John!!! I’m incredibly thankful for your ministry and wisdom/advice! 💛
Indeed.
Yeshua Hamaschiach!
/Bklyn 👑
So In a less wordy conclusion : going to the Straight wedding is based on wether the two living in fornication realize and confess it was wrong and/or persude/preach against such a shameful mistake such as theirs. But if they are like , “ oh we are just finally getting married just because it was time ” but the Couple still sees nothing wrong with fornication than No, we should not attend because they still aren’t living the truth in heir hearts... GOD BLESS ! I Was blessed by this ! .
@@frankcarrijo Frank, not so much judging , but everyone is learning Our father’s judgements. Haven’t you seen the word FEAR the Lord , oh like over 100 times in the Bible ?. And Everyone is at different stages of their walk Frank... and it sounded like you were judging weren’t you ? you see , no one can avoid having judgements.. so long as they are righteous and not Pharisee based it’s all encouraged everywhere in the Bible Frank. So the only question here is, Was yours judgment righteous ? Regardless, Love your from a far brother ! Maranatha .
My son’s father refused to attend my son and daughter in law’s wedding because they lived together before marriage and that the wedding was non religious. My son’s father and his wife also lived together for many years before they got married. My son’s father knocked me up when I was 18 and basically said good luck. My son’s father converted to Christianity when our son was 14. Until that point he did not care to see my son. He petitioned the court to establish paternity. All my son’s father received was visitation. He asked to take my son to church I left that decision up to my son. My son didn’t like church so he didn’t go.
My Dad and stepmom were married 18 years before she passed. Before their marriage they lived together for 5 years. My three sets of aunts and uncles all lived together before marriage. The longest of the marriages has lasted over 40 years. The shortest of the marriages has lasted over 25 years. Another thing all 4 of those marriages have in common that none of them stepped into a church the whole time. My husband and I have been together 8 years and lived together 5 years before we were married. A marriage doesn’t have to have a god at the center to survive it takes shared goals. Now my son refuses to see his father. My Dad and stepmom watched my son while I worked. My Dad went to all the father son events at school. My Dad was the one who invested his time effort and energy from birth into my son. My Dad passed a couple of years ago. My husband and my son’s father in law stepped up for my son when he got married. My son also refuses to see his Dad and Stepmom. His stepmom did not attend his high school or college graduation. My husband was there both times. My daughter in law put boundaries on both my son’s father and his wife because of the disrespect that my son and her were shown.
I was asked to be witness at an unchristian "free wedding ceremony" and didn't know how to respond. I was carrying this question with me for days.... guess I will lose two long time friends now though.... nevertheless, I thank you God for showing me this video, the answer is clear. 🙏
Thank you for this. My best friend from childhood is getting married and he invited me. I feel like I should not go and do not have peace about it and have been praying that God please show me how to handle this. I do not want to dishonor God, I want to glorify Him and be a good example but at the same time I do not want to upset all my friends because I have mentioned not going to several people yet they do not understand my reasoning. I might show this video to my friend who is getting married and I pray that maybe the Lord will speak to him through this video’s message. Thank you Pastor John and all the brothers and sisters at Desiring God for providing wonderful counsel and biblical advice for nearly all situations. Praise God for such an incredible group of believers who seek to teach others and lead them to Christ through all these internet resources!
Todd Friel says to go against your conscience is a sin.
Of course. These days you wouldn't attend any weddings straight or gay if you refused people who live together before they are married. A minister doesn't marry a couple. They marry each other when they first come together. BTW I also fully support same sex marriage. I was a Baptist Pastor years ago.
I am so sad! My friend from childhood was a Christian, but a couple of years ago she decided to marry a refugee from Syria and become a muslim. She asked me to design a wedding invitation on photoshop and I did, I didn't want to do that nor attend the wedding, but I did both. I designed the invitation pretty quickly to get rid of it and felt pressured to go to the wedding, because I knew if I missed it, it would crush her. I attended it but left early, I just wanted to stay away from the whole thing. I should've said no, to both actions, I put man above God, because i was afraid of the reprecursion, even though I hated doing that every step of the way. I hope He can forgive me!! I am so sad!!
Fabia Dutra
I once felt saddened about a situation with a friend who I thought was a Christian. I was also conflicted about whether to attend or not but after a week or so of wrestling, I realised that the issue was not so much attending or not, but I was actually deeply sad to know that I had not ever acknowledged that they were not Christians and I was also grieved because I had never actually shared the Gospel with them or had meaningful discussions about faith
I dunno if that’s what u are feeling but just thought to share
TAS Selah yeah It's pretty much the same thing, however we would talk about our faith, that's why it was so shocking to me when she decided to turn her back on Jesus. But one thing is true, we'll never know somebody heart, only God can see what really goes on inside each and everyone of us!
Carlie Trogicj I know He does, I just get sad because I know better and should've put it into practice.
Carlie Trogicj Thank you!!
You're a really bad friend and not a great person. You don't deserve her. Glad she's got her new life.
We have decayed, we should expose sexual abuse in churches, false teachers etc
My twin brother is marrying with his girlfriend, they've been dating for 5 or 6 years they are going to get married soon in May. I am a Christian and my parents as well. My brother grew up in the Christian church but his decision was the world so he has never received Jesus in his heart. I am being pressured because we've been so close to each other and I know in my consciousness is wrong, but I don't want to deny the invitation because he's my brother in blood. I don't want him to feel bad if I reject his invitation, he messaged me today if I wanted to be part of it and I said it would be an honor, but deep inside I feel sad and pressured. Please someone give me advice 😔, it's hard for me. Anything would help me.
What do you see as wrong in supporting their marriage?
@@jennprescott2757 my brother has told me before that they've had sex before marriage, I did reach out to one of my mentors in church and he said go because he's your brother and be there for him at the ceremony but once they start doing there party like drinking and dancing he said then leave because that's not a place for a Christian.
@@JulioEMonje hey Julio, what ended up happening?
I once emailed you about 1 Corinthians 5, is there a podcast on this I missed?
Attending a wedding for couples living together isn't a sin. Just because they live together doesn't mean they're having sex. Or if they are maybe they're repenting by getting married.
Yes. Is my opinion.
Psalm 1 we must obey
Carson.I absolutely totally agree with you 😆😇
Why would you allow your wife to be best friends with a lesbian? Cut that relationship off with the best friend, and do not attend that Blasphemous fake wedding.
My husband does not pick my friends out. I don’t pick his friends out either.
@@vanessaverner8480
As a Christian man, I lead my wife, I am her head. If she was friends with a person who is an ungodly influence, I would tell her it needs to stop. My wife is a biblical woman, so she submits to my word.
Paul said,
“ Do not be deceived: “Bad company corrupts good morals.” “
- 1 Corinthians 15:33
@@Spurgeon_General my husband doesn’t care what my last name is. My husband also doesn’t tell me what to do. We discuss our life plans and goals. However, I am not ordered to do anything. My dad didn’t order my stepmom around either. Does the wife bleat like a good little sheep? My husband does not pick my friends. Guess what I don’t pick his friends either.
Attend your own wedding
It's a private moment
No need to invite anyone else!
What if the marriage is between 2 unbelievers living in fornication? My cousin is getting married he grew up in church but Im not sure if he claims to be a Christian or not?
What happens if they marry after some time due to financial issues and family issues, but have had sex for first time together, and will never do it with someone else is it a sin? After all the bible has made this laws to teach ppl to have only one life partner and not many?
Is there forgiveness ?
Everybody.. don't hate on pastor john... that's what the bible says.. if you don't believe it or doubt it THEN GO READ YOUR BIBLE.
Barbie Lee I’m reading my Bible right now ... point me to the verse that says don’t attend that wedding... I’m waiting
N P didn’t you listen to the podcast?
N P Hello, I assume you are not in preschool and is able to search through your own bible for it. What I meant when I said “that’s what the bible says” are. just. that. What Pastor John mentioned the verse from 1 Corinthians 5:11-13.
*”I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people- not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler-not even to eat with such a one.”*
Now, for me personally I don’t judge anybody or preach “all those things are wrong!!” Or whatever who are/were living together, had sex together, all other whatever sin. All sins are equal in the eyes of the Lord (Matthew 7:1-5, 1 John 3:15, Romans 3:23;2:11 and such)
Pastor John said
“Now, having said all that, I think it is ordinarily wrong to attend the ceremony of the so-called gay marriage. But I think it is *ordinarily right* to attend the ceremony of a couple who has been living in sin, but in marrying are not in principle sinning.”
I am not saying don’t attend, I’m saying Pastor John quoted some scriptures. And if you have doubts find it for yourself.
And please.. if you came here just to demand where in the bible !!where in the bible!!! Before confirming it yourself (or at the verrryyyy least a google search) shows you didn’t come with an open heart. As I’ve said in my comment. Don’t just cry out where in the bible?!?! Pray to God and let Him show you through His word and He would open your heart for it.
And I don’t mean to open a debate of what is and what not. *Just. Read. The. Bible.*
Pastor John or anyone else is *not* responsible for our salvation. We are ourselves are.
Peace.
@@ChuckDownfield2727Philippians 2:5 says to live like christ. There is no reason for us to believe that Christ would celebrate a sinful lifestyle. Before I was a True Believer I attended a gay wedding reception. I said the same thing a lot of so-called Christians say. I said I'm just celebrating the love between these people there's no reason to be hateful. Said there is a reason to be hateful God hates The Sinner when we sin . Please understand this is God's word and it is perfect and beautiful no matter what our contention deceitful Hearts tell us. The world can be very convincing if we do not keep our eyes on God's word❤
One area for thought, the concerns me. Is that the caller claimed that his wife's best friend was a lesbian. Understand that a lesbian woman looks at another woman the same way or in a similar manner that a man looks at a woman. My question would be should or would a man want his wife's best friend to be a man other than yourself. In my experience situations like this always lead to problems. And we also have someone who is best friends, with a person who is in purposeful and active Rebellion against God. Usually we find it our friends influence us more then we influence them. Remember the old adage birds of a feather flock together.
Really appreciate
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations.
A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24.
The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9.
The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death.
Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging
@Tom R Got it, so a natural God given body function makes one unclean - did I get it correct?
why do you have subscribers but no content.. is their a web of christian-stirring bots out there...?
@@ProQuigley Question when will so called Christians follow Jesus Christ?
Obviously you're trolling and dont even care for an answer but ill give you one anyways that answers pretty much all of them. Those are old covenant laws that applied to a specific people at a specific time and are not binding to Christians
Old testament your quoting does not apply to us. It's important to read it but it doesn't apply because of Jesus' death.
If you are a couple that divorced not because of sexual misconduct but other reasons but you do not part with ex husband is that a sin
Such hypocrisy so he's basically saying no don't go to the church where the same sex marriage couple is having their wedding but it's okay to go to the wedding where the couple is having sex before marriage... Last time I checked in the Bible those two couples are doing something the wrong and if they're your friends you're going to base your whole friendship on both ends which you of course have sinned because you're not Jesus you're not perfect.. if you only go to the wedding of the heterosexual couple then you're a big hypocrite it should be that black or white and no in between
Prior to marriage they would be sinning, after marriage fornication is no longer there. What a celebration. Homosexuality is a sin before or after!!
i think no
The difference is the fact that marriage is a thing God created for a man and a woman. It's a religious ceremony and should be kept in its original state of religious purity.
The bible does not say a Christian family member close to one of the gay partners should Never go to a gay union labeled by the government a wedding . It does not say that and it does not say it’s murder . And no common sense Christian who is committed to scriptural integrity thinks going is an agreement or support . It is messy and it is complex but Not always a no do not go . Christian go and do a lot of things with their children that they do but do not agree with --to leave the door open for repentance and forgiveness if and even the time comes . That happens ! And it’s not a sin . This is why Begg said what he did . And the ridiculous attacks publicly on the internet are gross and sinful . You tubers who have no idea what they are say who assume things make up scenarios they think point to how it was wrong ! Garbage greedy click bait we all know it shame on them
Can't any of you Christians think for yourselves? Be led by the spirit? And ask Him? 🙈
I was at the wedding of a couple who lived together before being married. I was a little kid back then, but my mother told me that living together like that was not a good idea, but didn't go into the details of why. Here is another question: should a Christian attend the wedding of someone who has been divorced for unbiblical grounds, and getting married a second time?
Go to the wedding. It's them leaving sin. It's a piece of paper. God says what is marriage. A man and a woman joining in that way is marriage. They are know just getting a piece of paper.
Being friends with lgbt is not sinning, going into it is. We must do acts out of love not out of wanting to be "right". If being friends with 'betty" and her girlfriend can bring them to Christ. Do it. BUT if you are doing it for likes on facebook or tictock. You can not support it or approve it.
Next video, “Should I accept a gift from someone who isn’t a verified walking Christian”
God said to love one another, and if you love others like yourself won't you be offended if someone refused your gift just because of religious views, I think you might accept a gift as long as it's not linked to evil intents or idolatry. At least accept it then see what you would do with it if you feel its harming you in some way.
remember when john piper said that women should put up with domestic abuse "for a season" as long as it wasn't requiring her to actively sin herself?
Dam he said that smh I thought he was real .....damn thank you....
It may be to show her husband what christ is like by the way she lives. She may put up with this kind of treatment, not because it is pleasing to her but because she loves Christ and she loves her husband enough to show him the love of Jesus Christ. As in 1 peter 3: 1-2
1 In the same way, you wives, be submissive to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word, they may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives, 2 as they observe your chaste and respectful behavior.
The Good Samaritan story- will you ask if he's a Christian before you help him? All the missionary's in the world and EVERYONE that helps the poor - do they ask if they are Christians before they help them? Are you Christians living in caves? You read your bible, I hope, you are spirit filled, I hope and yet you ask feeble questions online?!what do your hearts tell you to do? Which The Lord sees and knows about, by the way. Phew! 😩
Calvin Parsley ?
I believe there’s a difference between helping the poor and needy and entertaining deliberate sin.
Gay marriage: biblically immoral, therefore, witnessing this without objection places you in contentment of sin.
Heterosexual fornication: also biblically immoral, however, the union of the two through repentance glorifies the Father.
I don’t believe your heart can tell you what’s absolutely right from wrong; the heart is deceitful and wicked.. being totally depraved we NEED a savior, therefore, we don’t live on bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God; the Word. In order to discern accurately and according to God’s Word John 16:13 says,
“When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.”
The Holy Spirit resides in the believer and will lead them into all the truth. Therefore, for the believer deciding on whether something is right of wrong and acting on, it is not merited by him but by God through conviction.
God bless you, friend.
The church needs to separate themselves from the govt. When it comes to marriage. People don't want to get married even if they are totally committed for life, because it be Chan ones a govt money grab.
If I'm not mistaken doesn't bible say that a couple must only live together and be faithful to be married ? No license needed ? I have two children with my partner own a home no license of marriage but he is my husband and I am his wife .....
@@faithrose4440 God only considers a man and a woman married when they are legally married. The scriptural support typically given for this view is the command to obey the government’s laws (Romans 13:1-7; 1 Peter 2:17). The argument is that, if the government requires certain procedures and paperwork to be completed before a marriage is recognized, then a couple should submit themselves to that process. It is definitely biblical for a couple to submit to the government as long as the requirements do not contradict God’s Word and are reasonable. Romans 13:1-2 tells us, “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.”
@@faithrose4440 A man and a woman are married in God’s eyes when they have completed some kind of formal wedding ceremony. Some interpreters understand God’s bringing Eve to Adam (Genesis 2:22) as God’s overseeing the first wedding “ceremony”-the modern practice of a father giving away his daughter at a wedding reflects God’s action in Eden. In John chapter 2, Jesus attended a wedding ceremony. Jesus would not have attended such an event if He did not approve of what was occurring. Jesus’ presence at a wedding ceremony by no means indicates that God requires a wedding ceremony, but it does indicate that a wedding ceremony is acceptable in God’s sight. Nearly every culture in the history of humanity has observed some kind of formal wedding ceremony. In every culture there is an event, action, covenant, vow, or proclamation that is recognized as declaring a man and woman to be married.
@@faithrose4440 So, what constitutes marriage in God’s eyes? It would seem that the following principles should be followed: 1) As long as the requirements are reasonable and not against the Bible, a man and a woman should seek whatever formal governmental recognition is available. 2) A man and a woman should follow whatever cultural, familial, and covenantal practices are typically employed to recognize a couple as “officially married.” 3) If possible, a man and a woman should consummate the marriage sexually, fulfilling the physical aspect of the “one flesh” principle.
This seemed reasonable to me figured I’d send it to you.
Lots of planks blurring vision here
At least you admit it.
I'm confused how your wife's best friend is a lesbian when she doesn't support her lesbian lifestyle and won't attend her wedding. That is hypocritical to me.
Maybe they have recently converted so their circle of friends is obviously from the world not from the church.
@@barbie379 I do befriend people that are indeed different from me in many ways, so you can stop judging me. The question still remains - how can she say this woman who is a lesbian is her best friend and refused to go to her wedding based on her faith. First of all, that would not happen in the real world. If you say you're my best friend yet you refuse to come to my wedding (a best friend would be a matron of honor in the wedding party) then we'd no longer be friends - period.
@@hlb0111 People see things differently and not everyone is like you. Being best friends with someone doesn't mean you have to support their every decision.
When I get an invitation to a wedding, I don’t ask what the couple are or aren’t doing with their fun bits.
This is beyond ridiculous. Christian militant priorities would make Jesus furious.
That’s because your jesus isn’t the real one. You’ve fancied one in your own imagination, in your own image. The true Jesus Christ of Scripture hates sin and commands that the sinner repent and turn from their wickedness. “I did not come to bring peace, but sword.”
Matthew 7:5. I sure the couple prosing these questions aren't perfect themselves.
Dorian Wright doesn’t sound like they are pretending to be. Or else they wouldn’t ask the Q. We all wrestle from time to time (at least we should) re such issues
@@tasselah1953 Sometimes we can be too self righteous for our own good. Just seek God, pray for the couple who are about to marry and bless them and celebrate their decision to marry. Nobody is perfect.
Dorian Wright yes or sometimes we can be too self righteous to ask a humble question...I’ve seen it
Plus what may be a no-brainer to one believer, may be something another believer wrestles with and yet both have the potential to be self-righteous (Rom 14:3)
We are too quick to label ppl as self-righteous, pharisees, hypocrites etc
Well, by their own confession the Lesbian is his wife's "best friend"
I cant believe these questions! The 1st century Jews were so zealous that they eventually destroyed themselves with these things. It got so bad, the messiah had to come back to put a stop to it. How bout we celebrate a wedding instead of trying to remove the speck from our brothers eye?
You completely missed the whole post. If you just want to hear what you want to hear how can you take exhortation from leaders that God has put in front of you?
I didn't watch the video, but from the title, I say "are you kidding?". How about this one. Should you attend the wedding of a couple when you know the bride is not a virgin? Ridiculous. Judge the person in the mirror. No one else.
Wait .. why just the bride? Even grooms need to be a virgin you know. If you are referring to couples who have slept with other people or with each other before they were Christians or before their promise purity for Christ then that is judgement. Purity is not only external but most importantly internal. We come to Christ not because we are perfect but as sinful people needing forgiveness. Let's not be like the pharisees, following all those laws yet their hearts are not with and for God.
Virgin grooms and brides marry all the time who are not Christians, just traditions or strict parents.
But yes.. you are right. The only One who can judge is the One who truly knows us, Jesus Christ. 😊
Randy Singleton Amen!! "If any man is without sin cast the first stone". No one has the right to judge, only God who, by the way, loves each of us UNCONDITIONALLY. So live your life as if you've read your bible properly and learn to love yourself and others without judgement.
Watch the video and it answers your question. He gives scripture talking about associating with believers who live in sin. Paul says we as believers have a duty to call out other believers. 1 Corinthians 5 and Galatians 6 are explicit commands to call out brothers and sisters who are living in sin.
Barbie Lee AMEN!!
They are doing the right thing, those who have not sinned cast the first stone. And for sure they will not consider coming to the Lord ( the ones living together) if u show such arrogance.
With judgment day just around the corner you should not commit this sin. It's called the sin of omission simply by your physical presence that shows approval of them getting married without God's blessing outside the church also if you're a Catholic it is a scandal for you to be there because it shows others who know you're Catholic that it's okay and you support it this is a sin of Scandal by those who know you and see you there going against Church teaching that is two sins you've committed and the third sin is that you go against Church teaching so now you've committed three sins. If you have chrilden who are with you and see this, you've committed another sin against your children and witnessed to them your sin that they will learn from you that it's okay. Now its 4 sins. You can laugh if you want then ignore me but when the Judgment comes it will be difficult to explain away these 4 sins before God almighty and off you go to Eternal fire and burn forever and ever. Of course this is only for traditional catholics todays catholic church is dead its not catholic and has lost the faith so dont listen to any fake priest of todays fake church. Your all falling behind way behind get with the program or burn.
I mean...is it even a question...?
What do u have a problem with? Because you think it is a sin to have sex before marriage? Well biblically it is, but why do you bother with someone else’s sin? Feel uncomfy about it? Yes i agree it can be uncomfy.
Then make your uncomfortable feeling the sole reason not attending these ceremonies, not biblical reason.
Don’t hide your real emotions behind religion.
I bet we Christians feel uncomfy about these cuz we judge; becoming God.
Christians sing God’s everlasting, unconditional and our brotherly love every day or at least on every sundays, but where is love in this question, in which somebody already made his/her judgement over other people whom Jesus died for.
That was a load of total nonsense. Read your Bible.
True brotherly love expresses truth and does not desire they're neighbor to continue in sin. As Christians, we are called to live holy lives pleasing to the Lord.
This has nothing to do with a uncomfy feeling, pastor John used scripture through out this whole post. Don’t close your ears because you think you understand love.
Oh my gosh! Bla de bla, bla. YES, please be a NICE Christian + not a judgemental, critical SUPERCHRISTIAN + attend the wedding of your friend! Who has now decided to do the right thing in the eyes of God, whether they are Christians or not! Give me a break! I love the comment from NoFapPhoenix who said "should we attend the wedding of sinners? " If the answer is no, then that will be the end of weddings!!😂 why oh why complicate such a simple question!
So many legalistic people.. smh
Legalism is like the Pharisees. It's when you make up rules beyond what scripture tells us and unless you follow or other people follow you don't believe they're saved. It's another work based salvation. I think Piper answers this very biblically. It's not black and white. If they believe they're marrying but don't really care about it and would have continued to live together and they are professing Christians. In their minds they don't care about whether they were living sexually immoral. Is it really right to go support them? It is a hard question but I think Piper answered this well.
"Should I attend the wedding of a sinner?"
NoFapPhoenix lol the way this podcast series is going John piper will say no. So focused on the letter of the law and not God’s redemptive “loving us while we were sinners” heart
Ironic since his own son is now divorced.
@@kickpublishing how is that ironic?
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Sometimes I feel that these sexual rules in the bible was put in because the disciples couldn’t get laid.
They couldn’t get laid so they didn’t want the rest of us to either.
I disagree. Sexual sin defiles not just the body, but the mind and the heart.
@@Paige-Turnner perhaps
God loves EVERYONE. "If any if you are without sin...." It's not up to us to judge who to love! Modern Christianity is so fake and judgemental. Get off your fake thrones and live like Christ is really in you. Live as if you've read you bibles!!.
Correct but it is up to God and God wrote this in scripture so we had a perfect guide to follow. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth.
Psalm 5:5 God hates the sinner when they sin God loves Jacob but hates Esau. Is so incredibly important to make sure we understand the wrath of God. God's word is perfect and beautiful our hearts are deceived buy the world and our own sin. It is important to make sure that we get a thorough understanding of the attributes of God including his wrath. Please understand I am coming from a place where I used to call myself a Christian and celebrated gay weddings but there is no reason for us to ever believe that Christ would want us to celebrate a sinful lifestyle