A Mistweaver's Guide to Chi-ji

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  • @Zerg777
    @Zerg777 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Just need to say, you make the highest quality mw content out there. Thanks for your work

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you!

  • @saucytriceratops365
    @saucytriceratops365 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Your videos have been wildly useful for learning mistweaver. These deep dives into CDs and such are so helpful

    • @mazeomaze3070
      @mazeomaze3070 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is very true, and sad that there arent more in depth guides like this for other classes

  • @Dillisan
    @Dillisan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Super helpful and very informative, thank you! I'm currently playing MW Monk for this season's challenge and your videos are amazing

  • @thesebeeshavewings
    @thesebeeshavewings 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yesterday I was lvling my monk as WW and a guildy wanted to join a TW run as DPS so I said I'll switch to MW and learn on the fly. No one died and I had a blast healing with the monk and thought this is easy. Then I watched your videos and saw I was doing nothing near optimal healing at all, haha! To the drawing board! thanks for these videos so helpful.

  • @Jadeybez
    @Jadeybez ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Meg! That moment where you realize you've been playing mistweaver all wrong :) This was super helpful!

  • @JeremiePineau-lq2ii
    @JeremiePineau-lq2ii ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Super well put through guides! Looking forward to more content!

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

  • @loltom3703
    @loltom3703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Picked up MW during pre patch. Your content is a GOD SEND. Super Super informative and useful. Totally changed the class for me. Thank you~!

  • @LostVendetta
    @LostVendetta ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yo! Great video. I wasn't really feeling Chi-ji during the prepatch so far, until I realized I wasn't playing with Faeline stomp yet. Those talents under it will help so much once we get into DF.

  • @redpandalove4861
    @redpandalove4861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos! I started the xpac as WW, but I have been playing around with MW with recent waves of buffs. Former CE MW and I can say your content is hands down the best MW content that I've come across. I feel like healing guides in general lack repeatable/max throughput rotations and don't provide a example of say... 5 globals before Hyrja lightning storm, then healing rotation within the storm (shoutout to newer video you posted).
    You read a DPS guide and it's like you're reading a phd thesis. You read most healing guides and it's like reading an IGN review for a game the author played for 5 hours. Granted I get that DPS is a science where healing is more of an art... but more content like yours!!!

  • @SpawnOfJenova
    @SpawnOfJenova ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh man. I've been using Chi-Ji wrong. Been popping him then applying stacks. Seems like I need to reverse that. Thanks for the video

  • @daquarius1222
    @daquarius1222 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Perfect video, full of detail to the build in general.
    The professionalisme you perform in these guides and videos, is outstanding!
    How you only have 6,3k subs is beyond me, but keep it up!

  • @AlessandroManente
    @AlessandroManente ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot! Learning healing after playing dps and it's so much fun, and with your guide a lot easier! Great channel!!

  • @bbqshapes3288
    @bbqshapes3288 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    coming back from classic i appreciate this content

  • @richardsapingo1828
    @richardsapingo1828 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video. The game never really explained (i mean explained "well") how this ability works. At least i know where the healing comes from.

  • @denar5022
    @denar5022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good video. Thank you very much for putting in the time 🙏🏿

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @marcfleuren7691
    @marcfleuren7691 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was really fun on packs just going BoK to instant 3 stacks (from faeline cleave) -> envm -> bok over and over so satsifying

  • @TheReaI0ne
    @TheReaI0ne ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Teach us, oh wise Grand Master!

  • @mooonpaw
    @mooonpaw ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Meg! :)

  • @MRPC5
    @MRPC5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I kind of feel like needing a 7 minute video to explain one cd is why people don't want to play MW.

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I was just telling a friend this last night, the tooltip given for Chi-ji (and honestly a lot of other MW abilities) just doesn't cover everything and there is a lot left unsaid OR the information for the CD is scattered throughout the talents/the spellbook. Definitely something I hope they are looking to address in the future.

    • @jonathanr49
      @jonathanr49 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s definitely the most involved healer I’ve played so far

    • @TheCoromaru
      @TheCoromaru ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It’s exactly why I love to play MW

    • @HappyPow
      @HappyPow ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha so dumb

    • @joemichen
      @joemichen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love playing MW and Meg has made it a lot easier with these videos!

  • @ahkrael
    @ahkrael ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How do you feel about using Yulon instead of chi ji, for pivoting to casting when the situation makes it punishing to be active in melee?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only thing you'd really gain from Yu'lon > Chi-ji is Soothing Breath which is like our Soothing Mist, and that ability really doesn't do much. Chi-ji offers more in M+ than Yu'lon does and you can still gain the EnvB from Chi-ji even if you get pushed out of melee momentarily. Mana also becomes a concern with Yu'lon, even with the reduction.

  • @sram0425
    @sram0425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hating Mistwaver more and more ... all the set-up is grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    my DRAGONFLIGHT new pally healer is not as cumbersome
    needless to say, your vids Meg are always full of info and I THANK you so much!!!!!

  • @sombrego2260
    @sombrego2260 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have mentioned that in M+ just spamming spinning kick can also work really well if the throughout is high enough to maximize damage during the cooldown.
    But then again with the new talents the cleave is really strong too.

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It depends on the type of healing you need, but this video was focused on highest throughput

  • @MrJeremydb91
    @MrJeremydb91 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Which addon do you use to heal? Can you post a link to your setup? I’d like to try healing out, and thanks!

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      Vuhdo! I've got one profile for raid and one for keys, both can be found here: wago.io/p/Megasett

    • @MrJeremydb91
      @MrJeremydb91 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Megasett thanks! Great videos! Wish me luck lol

    • @MrJeremydb91
      @MrJeremydb91 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Megasett ever do any pvp?

  • @penqu1ns
    @penqu1ns ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does prio for rotation shift with packs of increasing size? At what point should ScK be prio over RSK?

    • @xdraghoner9211
      @xdraghoner9211 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ig it depends on how much u need/want to heal (cause ScK is slower than rsk/bok) and how much dmg u want to do on aoe packs and reject healing for it, i dont think there is a set point for it cause every pull has different conditions

    • @Mo_Egan
      @Mo_Egan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This rotation is only when you have ChiJi up and to get the most HEALING out of it. ScK is for damage, so if everyone is safe and you don’t need the optimal healing throughout of this rotation go ahead and use ScK often.

  • @carlosdv3384
    @carlosdv3384 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't fully understand enveloping breath when EM is casted. Does enveloping breath affect all 5 party members with a single cast of EM or just the target with EM. Also, is it worth to use TFT for instant EM while chiji?

  • @stefan3388
    @stefan3388 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting and good video!
    I'm wondering for m+ if there isn't a target cap for it ? Because okay going in with 3 stacks of BoK is great but after? If you stand on fealine stomp for SCK then also SCK heals and does DMG and you get passive stacks of chi Ji..
    So I guess you would say if there is low to medium DMG that should be sufficient or even when there are a lot of target better?
    Do you have any thoughts on that? Or is resonating fists talent so strong that RsK ist over SCK even in multi target ?
    Cheers :)

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It kind of depends on the damage that's going out. If you need smaller instances of maintenance healing or you're just using Chi-ji as a mana saver, you can stick to SCK on 5+ targets because that is the point at which SCK > BoK for damage. But if you have bigger tantrum/burst damage coming out, you'll get more healing out of the BoK cleave.

    • @stefan3388
      @stefan3388 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Megasett
      Wow okay really i thought Bok is only better until 3 or smth targets but never tried it on dummies !
      Thanks for the answer :)

  • @PvtPotato92
    @PvtPotato92 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, thanks for making it. Had a question on the Jade Bond rotation though- right after I use TFT Essence Font, how do I do RSK > EnvM > RSK? I see that it can work with focused thunder, but then we have to give up upwelling in raid which doesn't feel great. Do I just replace the 2nd rsk with tp if it's still on cooldown?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah sorry that was a typo on my part, TFT with EF, pretty much every TP can be replaced with RSK if you get the reset

  • @jacktihs2963
    @jacktihs2963 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a fresh MW and trying to get this. This EM, you just cast in on yourself and let Chi-Ji do Celestial Harmony? Since when needing to select a target for it, it will slow down.

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All EnvM you cast during Celestial will give EnvB to players near the target. I don't remember the exact range but it's relatively short.

    • @jacktihs2963
      @jacktihs2963 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Megasett Ah oki, thanks. But it's not like I will select a group member to cast it on, since only got 12 seconds :-)

  • @Andrew-fw2vv
    @Andrew-fw2vv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is that addon that is tracking the time on your buffs like Faeline stomp and teachings as bars?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      Weakaura: wago.io/JqZhX7HZU

  • @Jason-wl6eu
    @Jason-wl6eu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    id like to get the weakauro for the vertical buff displays whered ya get it or where can i get it?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      right here! wago.io/JqZhX7HZU

  • @themigeey125
    @themigeey125 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:43 I don’t understand how you get the three bird stacks for your second and third enveloping mist. Rsk and BoK is 2 bird stacks and Tp and BoK is also 2 stacks.

  • @kevinevans9229
    @kevinevans9229 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hit the button and just start spinning 😂

  • @peachy327
    @peachy327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Meg - with the 40% buff to health/stamina across the board has it changed the triage stage for monk? Are you feeling that change more? Really curious about your opinion on if mw is impacted at all. ^_^;

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      Felt it mostly in Revival and a bit in Vivify cleave, hoping they'll address it but it wasn't as bad as I expected it to be

  • @miguelmartos6092
    @miguelmartos6092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does Chi-Ji gives a DPS increase?
    (Maybe a weird question but last time I played retail was in bfa season 4 with conflict&strife)

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not anymore ): he'll melee but no damage amp for us

  • @KyleDailyMedia
    @KyleDailyMedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you done much Mist Weaver PVP? Struggling to understand if it's even a viable healer choice given how much of the kit relies on melee vs the dangers of being hand-to-hand in these settings.

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I haven't but I can send you over to th-cam.com/users/MysticallTheMonk and he does a lot of pvp stuff

    • @becjed1701
      @becjed1701 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't run a melee build in pvp :) you use stuff like yulon and clouded focus for your talents as well as skipping talents in main tree for dmg, and verse mastery is you primary stats rather then then the pve go to, generally you wanna try to sit 40 yards away, and heal

  • @MxC06
    @MxC06 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm new to the class and i don't know what x3 stack of ancient monastery is. For me AM is on or off CD (triggered by FLS or EF)...
    Maybye i'm confused between TotAM and AM... I'm so lost... it would be easier if like my Disc priest i've got a precise cast séquence as for the Ramps up.
    Also i'm having a hard time to find the talent who add to the Tea a breathing mist in front of me.
    This talent is not on the Icy Veins guide...
    I've tried to copy the build for M+ on your google doc (it says click on link who lead to wow head, but it seems outdated...)
    I"m 376 ilvl and i do only +5 +6 keys because i don't know how to use Chi-ji...
    I thought disc was the hardest healer class, what a joke !
    Sorry for my English i'm French. We don't have good guides like yours in French...
    If a mistweaver or the OP can answer my questions, it would be nice of you.

  • @nahhsa16584
    @nahhsa16584 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi, great content by the way.. so i have a quewstion it says it applies up to 6 targets . when i use it in many cases it doesnt apply on party .. so hbow does that work , a lot of times when heavy damage i dont get the full benefits from it

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean "it", Enveloping Breath?

    • @nahhsa16584
      @nahhsa16584 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Megasett yes it doesn’t go on everyone in the grp

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      It has a range, I don’t remember the exact # but it’s like 15 yards or something so you need to be aware of who you’re putting EnvM on to get it to spread

  • @dreamermagister8561
    @dreamermagister8561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this FISTWEAVING everyone talks about?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      Kind of, when people mention "fistweaving" they're referencing the playstyle that is currently performing the best. This is just utilizing one of our CDs but it does involve doing damage to heal

  • @booradley6832
    @booradley6832 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you take a different picture each time you make a video or did you just take a bunch of pictures for emotes you might theoretically feel about a topic in the future?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      I take them in batches

  • @jonathanr49
    @jonathanr49 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brand new to MW for DF. Started messing around in 10 keys just to get a feeling for the class. Great vids btw. My question is outside of chi ji do you ever hard cast EvM? Aldo would should I be using my Tea on? By default I use it on EF but ie that the right move?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Usually only end up using EnvM outside of Chi-ji if there's heavy ST damage going out like a big DOT/stabilizing the tank after a tank buster.
      TFT in M+ is usually used on EnvM for heavy ST damage, RSK for shorter CD, and EF for Haste when using Secret Infusion

    • @jonathanr49
      @jonathanr49 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Megasett so never use the tea on EF just for the quicker group heal? Do we have another way to quickly heal group wide dmg that more efficient?

    • @jonathanr49
      @jonathanr49 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Megasett oh and EvM do you ever hard cast it or would you do a smoothing mist first then EvM mist? I ask because hard casting EvM feels so bad, it’s like hard casting holy light as a hpal

    • @jwaldrop2011
      @jwaldrop2011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonathanr49 with GCD accounted for, hard casting EnvM is faster than SM+EnvM. Agreed it feels slow. Soothing is useful if you're going to follow up with Vivify, but with 10s instant Vivify the value of that combo is less likely to be needed.

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      EF isn't used for the healing it does, more for the HoT it leaves, Vivify cleave would be more effective at groupwide healing than EF

  • @Extorchz
    @Extorchz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have seen some of your videos since pre-patch dropped because I'm rerolling to MW. Great content, great presentation, congratulations.
    Would the chi ji window make sense within the raid build where we probably won't be rolling with Faeline?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      We will still be using the first Faeline talent that gives us stomp because in raid we also run Upwelling so Faeline will be used to trigger AT, helps us full stack to 18 EF without spending stacks to trigger AT

    • @Extorchz
      @Extorchz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Megasett Haven't thought of it like that, would you consider doing a more raid oriented video?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I could look into doing some raid stuff yeah

  • @silver.english
    @silver.english ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey!, awesome vid,
    How do you feel about MW in DF after the 40% HP / DMG thing?
    Thx !

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In raid it's fine, in M+ I feel it a bit in ST healing and Revival is in horrendous shape.

  • @samdem4307
    @samdem4307 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot for detailed explanation!
    The mana overall in m+/(in beta) feels currently a big issue for me.
    What do you think about it?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's been a bit hard to tell with all the health changes/tuning changes but generally mana will improve as people begin to learn mechanics of new dungeons. There's definitely been times where mana has felt worse in the same dungeon with different people.

  • @trashtef
    @trashtef ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry to ask but I am new to fistweaving and I was wondering specifically about chino, from what I see you go into the rotation with 3 stacks do 1 3stack blackout and the. RSK black with no stacks then 1 TP into 2 stack blackout right ? Do you RSK inetween if you get a reset before the tea ?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      RSK takes prio to TP if you get a reset yes

  • @doomed-thrall5763
    @doomed-thrall5763 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Meg, great video as always!
    Just a quick one: cant you just BoK in the Chi-Ji window whilst standing in Faeline and get all 3 bird stacks as long as there are 3 targets in front of you? Asking because you got the TP parts in the sequences shown.

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you just want the bird stacks sure, but the additional BoK that we get through cleave will also proc Gusts of Mists from Chi-ji

  • @coolaidproductions6640
    @coolaidproductions6640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have anywhere where I can get your boutiques for Vuhdo?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't currently have any bouquets but I do have a spell trace for EnvB, there's a video here at the timestamp where I go over Spell trace: th-cam.com/video/kcpolRP5leg/w-d-xo.html

  • @oakenmaus
    @oakenmaus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ow my poor brain

  • @offtempo4
    @offtempo4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would recasting Faeline > EF for rebuffin teachings if its CD resets?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      You could if you can hit everyone with FLS for the HoT because you still have 12 seconds of Chi-ji to use and we want the EF HoT, also with Secret Infusion EF will give us the haste and FLS will not

  • @renasi3798
    @renasi3798 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hello, first of all thank you for the effort and the work that is behind the video! BOK -> 1.EnvM -> RSK -> TP -> BOK -> 2.EnvM -> TP-> BOK -> 3.EnvM -> RSK. The first and the second EnvM are always Procs, but the third EnvM never Procs. do you have an idea what i might be doing wrong?? Thanks... Rena

  • @tyrowe42
    @tyrowe42 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m a disc p and resto Druid. This sounds confusing to be a monk healer

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's definitely a lot going on with the spec! Lots of micromanagement and buff tracking but it's very fun

  • @KelsieMW
    @KelsieMW ปีที่แล้ว

    tysm 💚

  • @puregamer6599
    @puregamer6599 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t play mw I play death knight but I still like watching your videos I wish if there someone can explain my class like you do I may be going to MW just because you’re explanation and your voice is Very Calming .

  • @James-kv3ll
    @James-kv3ll ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super Unrelated:
    How do you feel about Preservation Evoker.
    As someone who’s favorite healer for years has been Mistweaver I’m really enjoying it.

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I honestly have no interest in PresEvoker :\ It feels a bit clunky and I'm not a fan of ranged healers in general

    • @James-kv3ll
      @James-kv3ll ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Megasett It’s definitely something that won’t appeal to everyone. Especially those who enjoy being in melee actively dpsing.
      But I found echo to be such a fun and versatile spell I was able to look past its flaws.
      But to each their own

  • @radko6991
    @radko6991 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many stacks of bok I should have during the crack bird window ? Do I press bok with 1 stack and then enveloping mist , or do I mostly aim for 3 stacks ?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have Awakened Faeline (which you should), you will never have just 1 stack. If you have Ancient Concordance (which you should) you will always get 3 stacks. I'd recommend watching the video again or looking at the graphics again, it's all in there.

    • @radko6991
      @radko6991 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Megasett Great , I will , thank you !

  • @dnl19-b5y
    @dnl19-b5y ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to know your opinion on the new changes to the classes and some youtubers putting mistweaver at the bottom of their tier lists... Is it really that bad?

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most people offering feedback on Mistweaver do not know how to play the class and think it's bad when it's really their lack of experience with it. Sometimes it's also just regurgitation of opinions from others as well.

  • @facehugger8995
    @facehugger8995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    pity monks damage is so low their healing is good but for M+ their dps is super low

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/wow-hotfixes-updated-november-21-1403968

  • @kennethvannorwick3557
    @kennethvannorwick3557 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blizzard should hire you to actually explain Mistweaver abilities. Their tool tips are not good.

  • @ravik66
    @ravik66 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know what the average cd of Chi-Ji ends up as when using Jade Bond? Currently use Gift but if JB knocks a minute or more off it might be better to use that.

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว

      In raid we can get JB to 2:00-2:15 but that’s with perfect windows, in M+ it ends up being closer to 2:30 or so

    • @ravik66
      @ravik66 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Megasett Thanks for the quick reply - merry christmas! Will stick with Gift for m+

  • @yangpaan453
    @yangpaan453 ปีที่แล้ว

    wtf are BoK EnvM RSK TP? Why not just write out the names of the skills/talents. When you make a guide people who are new to the class are going to watch it. None of us know what any of that means.

  • @VaRiiaLHD
    @VaRiiaLHD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i though Chi-Ji was a She lol ill keep it that way

    • @Megasett
      @Megasett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always thought so too and when I got corrected on it I defended it with “well MY Chi-ji is a girl”

    • @VaRiiaLHD
      @VaRiiaLHD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Megasett ahahaha well I'll have to use this excuse going forward

  • @nicolaspuentes4763
    @nicolaspuentes4763 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😍

  • @acphantom6437
    @acphantom6437 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone ever tell you that you sound just like Aliena?
    You're the new tankspot