2 problems here: 1. Salafist uprisings began long before western intervention. This is a popular scapegoat myth. The first Salafist uprising was the Wahhabi movement which birthed Saudi Arabia 1750-1800 way before westerners showed up! 2. It is good that professor highlighted the source of ISIS success and support based on exploiting Sunni fear of Shia domination. But must explore more deeply how to remove that fear. Sunni lived with Shia peacefully without fear as long as there was a Sunni Caliph ruling Islam. That ended when the already-crumbling Turkish empire (dubbed "the sick man of Europe") chose the wrong side in ww1 and was dissolved in defeat. Sykes-Picot would never have happened if Turkey had modernized and prospered and especially if it had avoided ww1--or at least chosen the right side. In any case, without a Caliph, there was is no longer anyone with the pan-Islamic authority to quell regional sectarian strife. Wahhabis were crushed but re-emerged post ww1.
They were brought down with ease in the middle east until the British gave support to Alsaud, dont just stop there. Salafist uprising werent popular and were only confined to NEJD area of saudi arabia. Not to mention he was talking about presence in iraq as a domestic problem.
just started watching spotted immediate misinformation. From 1999 Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad a Salafist operated in Iraq led by Zarqawi based in Jordan
not true, zarqawi and other terrorist groups were in an area that was off limits to the Iraqi government (Kurdish region). And the Iraqi intelligence was already spying on him, because they considered him a threat.
Prof. Gerges in this 2016 talk, forgot to mention 400 year Ottoman rule of the Levant, European Colonialism, Super Powers interests of 2 centuries, Oil countries wealth & resources, decades long history of Middle East conflict since 1948, none of that had anything to do with the origins of all this? At times, ommissions speak more than what is said! It sounded as if such terror organizations grew & flourished spontaneously as a response to injustices committed by Iraq & Syria's governments, and simply that the Jihadis became naturally invigorated to wage a sectarian war, because of injustice, while, not alluding to the origins of their ideology & resources. Lastly, TH-cam affords Prof. Gerges the opportunity to watch himself again, really unsuitable of a Professor on this occasion (hope he learns from it) to be peddling his book in such a manner, like his life depended on it, his excuse being his publisher's prodding!
starts at 2:20
Thank you, I was looking for this last night!
2 problems here:
1. Salafist uprisings began long before western intervention. This is a popular scapegoat myth. The first Salafist uprising was the Wahhabi movement which birthed Saudi Arabia 1750-1800 way before westerners showed up!
2. It is good that professor highlighted the source of ISIS success and support based on exploiting Sunni fear of Shia domination. But must explore more deeply how to remove that fear. Sunni lived with Shia peacefully without fear as long as there was a Sunni Caliph ruling Islam. That ended when the already-crumbling Turkish empire (dubbed "the sick man of Europe") chose the wrong side in ww1 and was dissolved in defeat. Sykes-Picot would never have happened if Turkey had modernized and prospered and especially if it had avoided ww1--or at least chosen the right side. In any case, without a Caliph, there was is no longer anyone with the pan-Islamic authority to quell regional sectarian strife.
Wahhabis were crushed but re-emerged
post ww1.
They were brought down with ease in the middle east until the British gave support to Alsaud, dont just stop there. Salafist uprising werent popular and were only confined to NEJD area of saudi arabia. Not to mention he was talking about presence in iraq as a domestic problem.
14:38 turned with US Dollars not Vengeance
My masters thesis is about ISIS,and I find this lecture very insightful
did a paper on ISIS for my Counterterrorism Masters
Kind of wish they would just let him speak and not bother with a QA
just started watching spotted immediate misinformation. From 1999 Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad a Salafist operated in Iraq led by Zarqawi based in Jordan
not true, zarqawi and other terrorist groups were in an area that was off limits to the Iraqi government (Kurdish region). And the Iraqi intelligence was already spying on him, because they considered him a threat.
wow this douchebag can also use Wikipedia lol
Prof. Gerges in this 2016 talk, forgot to mention 400 year Ottoman rule of the Levant, European Colonialism, Super Powers interests of 2 centuries, Oil countries wealth & resources, decades long history of Middle East conflict since 1948, none of that had anything to do with the origins of all this? At times, ommissions speak more than what is said! It sounded as if such terror organizations grew & flourished spontaneously as a response to injustices committed by Iraq & Syria's governments, and simply that the Jihadis became naturally invigorated to wage a sectarian war, because of injustice, while, not alluding to the origins of their ideology & resources. Lastly, TH-cam affords Prof. Gerges the opportunity to watch himself again, really unsuitable of a Professor on this occasion (hope he learns from it) to be peddling his book in such a manner, like his life depended on it, his excuse being his publisher's prodding!