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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2023
- Aesc aka Tonelico, Aka Big Hat Morgan is an interesting choice for our Anni 8 servant. She has a very unique kit including a never before seen skill that begins on cooldown! As such she's a bit tricky to wield. In this Complete analysis we'll go over our newest fae caster and talk all about her magical prowess, the ways you can 3 turn with her or use her in multi-dps hybrid setups, and of course her damage potential! Also as a special bonus I included two demonstrations at the end of the video!
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I gotta admit I had a hard time working out all the possibilities for this one in my head, so I totally understand if people struggle with the cooldown timing and kit at first. Big Hat Morgan is a great unit nonetheless. Whether or not you need her though comes down to how your roster of AoE casters is fairing. Still I suspect people will roll her purely for love of the design. What do you think about Tonelico as a unit and as our Anniversary Pick? Do you think her summer form means we'll only get two new SSRs this upcoming Summer? Thanks for watching again! If you guys enjoyed the analysis and walkthrough please consider liking and subscribing for more daily content! 🙏
Seems a bit worse than NP4-5 Cu Caster BUT! This doesn't take into account that you are guaranteed at least one Oberon NP (two if event CE has ignore invinc) AND her kit is really strong for CQ scenarios (while Cu Caster is really selfish).
I was so impressed you did this in one take during the stream yesterday.
@@flashmozzg Cu caster is not dual core (2 dps 90++ 3T farming) compatible though. This morgan can work alongside 50% battery ST DPS like kintoki, enkidu, Kama etc.
@@PorungaSan That's pretty much what I said after "BUT!"
@@flashmozzg huh! Weird! It didn't show me that part when I was typing my comment.
Certainly an interesting unit, I still am trying very hard to justify her in multi core as she is able to provide the entire team with 50% charge + 20 slow charge, 50% NP damage up and either 20% or 30% atk up depending on if you use light. It is extremely powerful but I also think the limitations is a bit much. Having her skill start at 5 means you will need to pair very specific teammates with her and I don't know if i like a multi core unit that asks for specific multicore teammates. All that being said ig if a servant is getting us thinking and crafting unorthodoxed comps its already a good addition to the game lol.
Looking forward to your hot take video
I personally find Tonelico most useful as a secondary attacker and support, because the amount of buffs she can give is huge for a universal buff and the 50% charge if you can manage it is amazing for enabling comps that weren't possible before
Currently my favorite team with her is with Morgan, Tonelico and Castoria + a plugsuit Oberon if you need the damage push. With Morgan being the main attacker and OC provider for Tonelico to use her skill 3, they synergies pretty well and Morgan can hit her highest non-trait damage ceiling in this comp because she can bring Black Grail.
Frankly, I'd say as a single unit Tonelico does so much in multiple roles I find that if people focuses on solely one aspect of her, like being a sole main attacker, they aren't utilizing her full capabilities and thus find her underperforming when that's not really the case
On release day I was messing with a bunch of ideas and she should work really well in multicore with the bg varient that gives oc, this allows the other dps to run og bg and gives 2 oberons. Both dps can np on wave 3. Haven't been able to test it personally since I don't have her but it sounds quite good on paper imo.
@@the_only_way7808 Interesting theory. I have her NP1. With Rising Mud, Aesc's first turn damage is pretty trash (42k-ish neutral). And you also have to run 2 non-event ssr CEs. So far it seems hard for me to justify using this comp, but I will test it more.
@@brucewayne3892 yeah, from the perspective of 90++ content if you can hit damage thresholds I still think its worth but it could definitely struggle, especially since I'm pretty sure she has to solo np wave 2. Maybe crits could help but it is probably very node dependent. Also the other dps being able to use bg means they can run any ce, its just a matter of if they have enough damage or not.
I love how she pulls out the DS2 Moonlight Greatsword in one of her animations. She's a Dark Souls reference through and through.
Tonelico was Ranni's teacher confirmed??? 😱😱😱
@@alreadyd1d Tonelico did the fusion dance with Kali and that is what produced Ranni
@@whydoistillusethissite8626 Vaati was really quiet since this take dropped tbh 🤔
It’s been very simple so far among Japanese players. Aesc + KoyanD + X + NYAttire, where X can be anything, is the default setup everybody is using on JP social media, and it’s been extremely popular. People are loving it. 6-slot, no gauge CEs, all utility CEs. X doesn’t need battery so it can just be Bunyan, SMusashi, ST, anything. Aesc uses S3 on Turn-2. It's hype for sure, but -
I’m seeing a lot of players say, “I’m not certain about Aesc because she is locked to certain other units and MCs to be fully functional.” It's an understandable perspective. But sure, so are most units. A lot of servants are most functional with Castoria or SSkadi. Others are with KoyanL and Atlas or Plug. Here, Aesc is most operable with KoyanD and Arc and then an appropriate MC. Aesc is locked to units that are different than what the typical player is used to, but the trade off is she gives you the freedom of having a third DPS be completely batteryless. On JP, lots of people have already been accustomed to using KoyanD and Arc for a year now for farming standard FQs and speed farming 90+: as we all know they’re significantly more popular than KoyanL and Oberon for JP in those formats. Aesc is a unit that slots right into the meta that Japanese players have been used to. On top of that, she’s not necessarily locked to multicore Buster either. Since her party buffs are colorless, we’ve seen her tested with servants like S.Ibuki, Tez, Taigong, Caren, etc. as well, sometimes skipping KoyanD.
But I also understand Western players roll less and are more focused on having a few high-NP servants rather than having an army of choices. Her value to any one player will therefore depend significantly how well their account can pull off multicore already - if they have the current meta pieces. If your account is mostly focused on singlecore doubleKoyanL or VVOberon, you’ll reasonably be hesitant about Aesc for sure. Aesc is *extremely* potent, but not for everyone.
As for 90++, as with most DPS, Aesc’s prevalence will be up to fate. It’ll be less certain. We’ve seen numerically strong units like Kuku be almost completely useless and others like Junao see extremely low use rates. Melusine saw absolutely no use for an entire first year on JP but was then suddenly optimal back to back to back. Aesc is a hybrid gauge support and we’ve seen how powerful that has been with Tez, Arc, Jinako, KoyanD in various 90++. Some of the strong 90++ multicore pieces out there can also boost overcharge in some way. But we will have wait and see if she get to pull off her battery in a full 90++ setup. We can imagine all sorts of possibilities ranging from simply providing anti-evilSE, to bringing other important battery OC-based-SE units to 200% gauge for the final room, or maybe setting up 4 NPs in a minturn. And then of course there is her as single core which seems like just an afterthought at this point compared to the vast possibilities she can enable.
I think an important to note as well is the increasing prevalence, both in farming events as well as general ease of use, for multicore comps in FGO as the game develops.
The loop meta that began with Skadi really pushed the singlecore looping mentality to the forefront, understandably, but also because the multicore supports back in Y3 when she came out was nonexistent. But with units like Da Vinci Rider, (Voyager), Tez, Arc, etc. since then, multicore has allowed for much more flexible comp building against nodes that might be annoying for single core (90++ being the prime example).
I hope that the 2 year gap between NA and JP will allow NA server to be more familiar and perhaps partial to multicore comps to be better prepared for future contents but that might be wishful thinking.
Not sure if people know about this by now but "Aesc" is pronounced "Ash" in Old English, as in "ash tree" just as "Toneriko" is just another Japanese word for "ash tree"
Came to comment exactly this.
So she is basically ash
What next? Are you going to tell us that it isn't actually pronounced "Bow-bonn" or "Bay-O-Bonn" + Sith (pronounced like the evil Jedi)? /s
@@dawsonbusenbark3945 hehe studying English literature pays off
It's cool how in double Oberon setup she can bring them to 100%. Since Oberon's nuke doesn't stack - you have a free one to spare on another Oberon to bring his 90% NP damage bonus (from double 1st skill + Tonelico's 3rd) to 180% NP damage and 50% buster effectiveness, so in theory, even if you couldn't finish the 3rd wave with Tonelico - you can use Oberon's NP to finish the job. It also makes investing in his NP a bit more valuable, and there's definitely a lot of players who like Oberon to the point of investing in his NP. Really cool stuff I must say.
This is the first servant since the game started I ever felt I wanted to level 120 a unit. Maybe it's because every time I hear her name Tonelico I think about my favorite RPG franchise of all time. Plus her character and design are my favorites in all of fate franchise. Castoria is a hard second though. Gameplay-wise, don't care, if she had a potato kit like Abbey Summer I'd make it work anyway.
Morgan being dark souls reference is the only reason I need to pull her
Got np6 no regrets, can't resist smiling Morgan
in NA, I head over heels for her berserk form and NP5 her...
now i have my next goal who to NP5 next
Khad we have two new saberfaces and I am extremely excited!
Regarding a farming comp that has Tonelico use her NP 3 times, rather than Double Oberon I'd suggest you use:
Reines/Castoria/Waver
Hikari Koyan
Oberon
in the Tonelico team once you maxed her Append Skill 2
This setup allows her to use Black Grail as well and can reach higher damage output than that Double Oberon Koyan team
If a servant is making us think this hard and not just a matter of looping or not , i’d say it’s a great addition to the game .
love chat being chat 😂
Im looking forward to how people use this unit on challenges Himiko party overcharge looks good on paper but i want to see what comp Aesc can have
she is amazing and its summer morgan so must summon in my book
I managed to figure out how to use her 3rd skill on turns 2 & 3. Very convoluted.
thanks for the intel khad!!
my jp account is fairly new and i only have skadi as meta support right now (i refuse to use summer chloe) but got Herc during my tutorial summons when i started and a few good star gen CEs so i'm trying to figure out a way to use tonelico as a buster support alongside mash instead
I summoned her because big hat and glasses, but she is fun to use with Double Oberon + Vitch with LVL100 Black Grail
Divine three-legged race+gong seems like it be a funny trick to pull. She's sort of an enmity damage dealer in that situation and there both castors so they've got that going for them.
I can't say I'm fond of this new thing they're doing in shoving a Summer unit into an otherwise ordinary unit; Summer Morgan feels so out of place at the end there. On the bright side, the designs are nice, and I like that they tried something creative with that third skill.
I don't even like Morgan, but she came twice while I was trying to get Barghest on NA (and failed orz), so I kinda feel obligated to roll for her Aesc, and since I managed to get Oberon and Koyanskaya, she would be a fine addition to my roster (since I don't think I have many Buster "loopers" to begin with)
The only thing that bothers me is that the are mixing Anniversary Servants with Summer servants, and I don't like that. I usually collect all the 4* summer servants and 5*s that decide to show up, but now this changes my plans if they decide to keep doing this.
Now I want Nasu to do Shirou, Rin, Illya and Sakura in Elden Ring format.
Just gonna throw 90sq when her banner arrives in NA, if I get her great cause I'll have another bond sq slave on my roster just to replace my maxed bond main dps farmers. Gonna need those sq for the characters I might like in the future
Finally started my JP account. I want to use it for testing new servants that interest me to consider whether they're worth pulling on NA or not. I've always been meta>>>>waifu (don't kill me pls i hate that too) and i find her very strong and versatile actually. Need more servants on this new account to examine her full strength tho. I want someone to actually try some triple core farming comps including aesc lol
Cu Caster Np5 BBG: Double Vitch Oberon set-up
T1: 111,842
T2: 150,106
T3: 373,665
Castoria2 Bunyan CE Np1: Double Vitch Oberon set-up
T1: 53,254
T2: 86,785
T3: 236,289
Castoria2 BBG Np1: Double Oberon Vitch
T1: 66,385
T2 86,300
T3: 309,797
This is the looping number that Jord (hopefully I got his name right, thanks btw👌) provided, one of Myst Fgo active member. Both using New plug.
I think it's really hard to justify her dominance toward regular looping and farming high difficulty node especially 90+ since Caster Cu's damage is much more consistent because of ramping effects of his np... Now the things that would make her outshine Caster Cu, is her potential in 90++ farming node where multicore is the Meta and Cq but even then looking at her kit... It's so unnecessarily restrictive?..I don't really wanna smear her character too much because you know? 90% of the player base mainly roll for waifu purposes but the number just speaks for itself. Hopefully someone can correct me or give me more insight that would be appreciated.
are you talking regular CU or grailed Cu with these numbers?
@@MegaBichiX its a lvl 70 np5 1k fou cu caster. standard when talking about cu's performance as a looper
She sure is a witchy woman
she's synergies pretty good with Himiko..... now add Castoria to the team
interesting
I'd only pull her if I have SQ to spare and only cuz she's Aesc (tho to me Aesc is Castoria ascension 2). I dunno if this unit is meant to be paired with another we don't have or used in certain quests we don't know about yet. As it is now, I don't see a single point to pull her baring maybe some weird challenge scenarios. I love Berserker Morgan but it's hard to me to justify spending SQ on this one.
You should tonelico in the title or description becaude i couldnt find the video otherwise.
Maybe she can work with the Gong and Paracelsus?
use her to buff Shinsengumi-Ga for fun.
Bring Cheng Gong for 2nd skill of her to work and use the third skill.
As cool as she seems, I will already have my hands full with Summer Castoria and Summer Melusine. So I will likely have to skip her.
The Summer Servant controversy is probably the dumbest outrage I’ve seen on twitter.
And youtube. From what i know native JP speakers were fine with it from art I've seen already so it's just the EN side making a mess of things, again. As always lol
TBH I have more of an issue with the actual lore behind this character than the design or kit 😂
She awakened my feet fetish🗿
i have my cu caster np 10/10/10 will be grailed to 100 so as cool as she is imma pass
I think l would like her more if she wasnt the anni servant.
Like they haven’t milked the absolute hell outta Morgan enough already…. 🤦🏻♂️
This is an immediate pass from me