This whole time I was wondering why companies didn't just put a little bit of polyethylene in the front to help hold the ceramic together... Ngl this peaks my interest as abdominal armor. Somewhat light, flexible, and has decent protection.
Amazing that you quoted whotewho!!!!!!! All you needed was some bing bangs and you got it covered. Amazing content as always thank you, I always get sooo excited when I see you against armor because you want the facts. I don’t think you ever go out for destruction like others
That dissection makes me more I terested in this armor. It's not the overlapping scales like dragonskin that let's angled shots make it through the plates. Only thing I can suggest it measuring weight and strike face dimensions and comparing them to advertised specs. That would help out a lot
The biggest problem with that 10 x 12 flex plate is if you notice it's only 8.8" x 11" with a shooters cut. 87 Square Inches, and what are they charging for one of these flex plates 499.95? Alumina Oxide the cheapest ceramic i the world, and last generation uncured HB50 which is the same price here in the states as it is in Italy. It's not expensive and it seems that SLD has grossly misrepresented the size? If you get one measure the edge of the ceramic to the edge of the ceramic.
Yeah the size of the plates was not impressive. Apparently they never though of cutting/forming any of the octagons to fit the edges and instead decided to put nothing!?
Appreciate your content. Very educational and entertaining. You should test the ECH or the IHPS. Would be interesting to see how well they perform against rifle threats.
Thanks for the nice vid mr. Matt!! I think every one was waiting to see this video ... you know actual close to scientific testing with data to take in consideration Thanks for the nice content !
Thank you very much! It was a long time coming. Not sure why they waited to so long to work with me as the CEO was down over a year ago, but finally glad we got one to torture.
If I was you I’d be keeping as many of the surviving ceramic tiles from the different plates you test, seems like they’d possibly come in handy in the future. Also I love how your boy reached in and grabbed a piece to check it out.
Stealth armor systems has a flexible rifle armor system that was developed by the original dragon skin developer. Do you think you can check that out too?
@@Mustard_Face i was at fireworks for 4th last night and teens on bikes say why do we celebrate the 4th of july this is our lunch money being wasted on fireworks
@@jjnice315 dang that’s crazy, i set some off in my neighborhood and had a bunch of people in cars stop and people chanting USA it was awesome. But then on Facebook so many people were complaining, i made sure to stop before 11 and it was Saturday.
I'd imagine a nice quality Dyneema/Spectra/UHMWPE IIIA backer would pair well with it to combat that nasty BFD. You'd have a very comfortable & questionably slick plate setup to move around in. But at that price, I'd rather be running IV ceramic plates at a similar/slightly-higher weight.
Same here. You could just incorporate some soft 3A panels into your $300 level 4 rig (covering your sides and stomach) and be MUCH more effective in most scenarios.
Hey Buffman, just an idea: Can you get another one of these panels and test a fresh one standalone with your usual lineup of guns/calibers? I'd like to see what a fresh one could do against unrated calibers like .308/M80 and up, just for science :D. Lol. It'd probably go through if you use the long guns, but since it stopped M855A1, the usual armor killer, (albeit out of an SBR and not the 22" barrel, but it was compromised armor by that point anyway) I think it would get interesting.
@@BuffRANGE your armor testing is invaluable; Ihave several LEO family members who detailed me their their armor setups, it's unfortunate that some are ill-equipped to handle special threats from long guns. My uncle's dept issues the whole FRAS kit without a 3A backer 😱, they assumed it was one panel to stop all threats. I let him know ASAP with this vid as proof.
@@BuffRANGE I have only gotten into significant conversation on armor threats with my uncle as of yesterday. Most just blindly trust their depts to give them what works without regard. I can contact you on IG; I was thinking of asking him what all kit they use (he's SWAT also) and maybe compiling a playlist of your armor testing to give as a presentation.
Hey brother, I am a police officer, I currenly run the ICW Shotstop plates and since this new issue with them came out I am contemplating to buy these Fras plates. Are they light and flexible like they advertise? and which plates would you wear if you were a full time police officer? Thank you, Amazing channel
What threats do you want to stop against? If you're level III currently, these FRAS would cover you against M855. The FRAS IMO is a pretty solid design, but doesn't handle .308 as well for backface.
The 10x12 weighs almost 4 lbs and it's very light flexible and comfortable. The 11x14 weigh over 5 lbs And it's flexible and comfy but not that light. It's not bad in a backpack but all-day vest use .maybe go with safelifes hyperline. It's more comfy and just as good. Look it up . They're a pretty penny but worth it IMO. I haven't found one on the market as good.
@@MobileAura with good level 4 plates like the 1199/192 coming in at almost the same weight as the 1092, the extra 2 pounds is virtually unnoticeable in a good carrier. It's all a game of how much you want to spend for protection and what your preference is.
The problem is until the NIJ releases standards to address the new threats, no one is compelled to upgrade. NIJ 07 got proposed like 5-6 yrs ago and we're still waiting for them to finalize it.
Great video! I am conflicted on these the tech seems cool but the lack of NIJ testing makes me a bit nervous especially for the price. Any plans to test the new hesco m210 plate?
@@BuffRANGE you've ruined me for other armor/ammo test channels, if/when I do watch others I just click off because they don't reach the Buffman standard haha 😆
Mr.Huffman or any one can you let me know where I could possibly find the new m855 a1 epr? I can't find this rd in any tool supply store's in my area, north east ohio
@@BuffRANGE Improvisional stuff, like oversized Dog Bone from a Pet store, slab of ribs, etc. Might not be 100% relatable to human bone, but it's still a interesting test to see, instead of just gel. The main thing is just something. Some form of bone.
Evolution of DragonSkin that was shit on by incorrect testing...layered discs to be flexible. Except the old D/S didn't need anthing extra for it's full protection.
@@thealize808 Possibly the Gen 2 RMA 1092 if it's real, and Maybe their 1192. I want to evaluate Highcom at some point as they have some 3+ offerings that on paper have some awesome specs. If I had the money and I could test the Hesco 4800 those might get my $$.
It would work but its really unnecessary and not worth the added weight and bulk. Good Level IV will stop most realistic threats. a lvl IIIa backer is better if you want a little added protection, especially to help with backface deformation
@@ryanpeck3377 if the fras isn’t that much heavier if at all than normal iiia backing already behind a lot of peoples rifle plates it would be a decent amount of protection added with little to no shift in how it feels/performs or weighs just a thought🤷♂️
Can you confirm that FRAS with level 3a can stop M855A1 EPR consistently? Was that a 1 time lucky stop or can it stop it multiple times? What about the 5.56 AP round? I forget the name M933 m955? or whatever. Can those 2 armors combined stop it consistently? Because if that's true that makes those 2 combo a real winner for regular wear! due to movability and light weight!
You will need an NIJ level IV plate to stop M995. Consistently stop M855A1, I would need to test the panel again. They have a new III+ standalone which would have pretty much the same strike face, but with more backing material. Maybe If I can get one from them I'll test more A1 at it.
@@BuffRANGE my apologies when I made that comment I misunderstood what rounds you were using. I thought you only shot 1 m855a1. You actually shot about 5 rounds and all were stopped minus the 1 that was on the very edge. That one on edge that went through. Did you have the level 3a vest on at that time or did you not have the vest behind it for that last m855a1 shot? The video is a little unclear. Again my apologies the original set of m855a1s that got stopped with level 3a vest on I thought were m855 green tip when I first watched. So the FRAS with level 3a can overall stop m855a1 epr. I find that utterly amazing 👏 😍
@@BuffRANGE that level 3+ you mentioned is that still flexible or is that a solid plate? BTW per my other comment, you should definitely try shooting these flexible plates at an angle. Thats was one reason dragon scale/skin (whatever it was called) did not pass the military testing. Angle shots would go through the armor. So in urban environments or prone bullets are likely to slip through. The other issue was gas or diesel or some other liquid would cause the vest to fall apart. Now not an issue for most people but was a disqualify issue for military. Dragon skin was a hot topic when I was in and ita disqualifying issues made a lot of people sad lol
Just So everyone knows all these rounds are obsolete. the Norma mag rounds will pierce anything. Also the anew 6.8 may be powerful enough to pass also.
Did I miss something? It looked like it stopped all of the 5.56mm rounds in the worst case scenario test except for the M855a1, which was specifically designed for improved armor penetration. Would still be wise to wear a backer behind it anyway for impact absorption, but it didn't look like it was necessary to me. I could have totally misunderstood the results, though.
@@ninja5672 no, they ruptured the backface of the panel carrier from transference of energy, but did not make it through the UHMWPE portion of the first plate. It's arguable that they might have made it through if that additional plate hadn't been behind it, but without a test proving it one way or another we can't say for sure. Personally, I'm surprised it survived any of the 5.56mm at all, as I expected especially the high velocity M855 to go right through.
I put a sold sheet of carbon fiber behind my soft armor. It adds almost no weight and wont stop a bullet but in my opinion it will stop the shock trauma to the body on any hits that are stopped. maybe you could test that with your clay with my system to see if it stops the clay from being deformed.
you ever see what happens to carbon fiber when it gets hit by something high velocity? it shatters and sends literally thousandths of needles everywhere lmao I would seriously rethink your decision
@@Kevin_Patrick001 look into failure modes of different composite materials. There are reasons why kevlar is used instead of carbon fibre for many applications.
It's a neat design, but just not very cost effective. I'm sure it is more comfortable than rigid plates, but feel like your chances of getting inured is greatly increased.
U shoold make a chart like Duog Demuro makes with his cars vidyas and u coold put the boolits at the top of the chart an show witch ones passd thru an u coold give the armor a Doug Score but call it a Buff Score in sted
Should probably wear gloves, especially when dealing with exposed lead like that. Don’t wanna risk high lead levels for yourself or lead poisoning for the kids partner.
NIJ standards are min. I like finding the upper limits of designs so that can separate themselves from the rest of the pack. Surely a plate that would Stop a round at 3400 fps is better than another that can’t at 3,150 fps.
This whole time I was wondering why companies didn't just put a little bit of polyethylene in the front to help hold the ceramic together...
Ngl this peaks my interest as abdominal armor. Somewhat light, flexible, and has decent protection.
I'd recommend it, or the better version Hexar.
Honestly curious if you think that could work as a spall guard for steel
solid info, best armor/ballistic data on youtube, this is such a underrated channel
I appreciate that!
Thank you for this, I've been very curious if FRAS + 3A would stop M855A1, you're the only one I'm aware of that has done that test.
I appreciate the consistency and sticking close to nij testing standards. Hesco can pound sand
You bet
Amazing that you quoted whotewho!!!!!!! All you needed was some bing bangs and you got it covered. Amazing content as always thank you, I always get sooo excited when I see you against armor because you want the facts. I don’t think you ever go out for destruction like others
A slab for the front part of a helmet could be a useful accessory to protect from headshots. Great video!
That dissection makes me more I terested in this armor. It's not the overlapping scales like dragonskin that let's angled shots make it through the plates. Only thing I can suggest it measuring weight and strike face dimensions and comparing them to advertised specs. That would help out a lot
The biggest problem with that 10 x 12 flex plate is if you notice it's only 8.8" x 11" with a shooters cut. 87 Square Inches, and what are they charging for one of these flex plates 499.95? Alumina Oxide the cheapest ceramic i the world, and last generation uncured HB50 which is the same price here in the states as it is in Italy. It's not expensive and it seems that SLD has grossly misrepresented the size? If you get one measure the edge of the ceramic to the edge of the ceramic.
Yeah the size of the plates was not impressive. Apparently they never though of cutting/forming any of the octagons to fit the edges and instead decided to put nothing!?
Uh idk my 11x 14 is damn big plate. Where you get your info from? 😂
Lol the small hand that darts in to snag a piece of the broken ceramic or whatever it was around 19:00
Lol he likes to take things. He’s like a collector.
good video! i like the dissections of the plates specially.
Yeah, this is the first plate I recall seeing with kevlar and uhmwpe.
Appreciate your content. Very educational and entertaining. You should test the ECH or the IHPS. Would be interesting to see how well they perform against rifle threats.
Seconded
Thanks for the nice vid mr. Matt!!
I think every one was waiting to see this video ... you know actual close to scientific testing with data to take in consideration
Thanks for the nice content !
Thank you very much! It was a long time coming. Not sure why they waited to so long to work with me as the CEO was down over a year ago, but finally glad we got one to torture.
@@BuffRANGE We glad that the collaboration started ...😁😁
If I was you I’d be keeping as many of the surviving ceramic tiles from the different plates you test, seems like they’d possibly come in handy in the future. Also I love how your boy reached in and grabbed a piece to check it out.
I second this. Checking for density is a thing that could be done.
@@trechtzach8151. Good thinking
Great information. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Stealth armor systems has a flexible rifle armor system that was developed by the original dragon skin developer. Do you think you can check that out too?
We are in talks with Mr Bain from SAS to test his product in a similar fashion.
@@BuffRANGE that would be awesome. Iv been wanting to buy it to test it myself but I don’t have the variety of ammo that you do.
@@BuffRANGE This is awesome !
Demolitionranch tested real pinnacle dragonskin armour it sucks
@@jjnice315 yeah because they basically faked and oversold it’s capabilities.
I was just wearing that shirt yesterday, too many people ask “what is flight 93”?
So sad isn't it
Makes me mad that people don’t even remember something that recent.
@@Mustard_Face i was at fireworks for 4th last night and teens on bikes say why do we celebrate the 4th of july this is our lunch money being wasted on fireworks
It's getting real bad huh?
@@jjnice315 dang that’s crazy, i set some off in my neighborhood and had a bunch of people in cars stop and people chanting USA it was awesome. But then on Facebook so many people were complaining, i made sure to stop before 11 and it was Saturday.
I'd imagine a nice quality Dyneema/Spectra/UHMWPE IIIA backer would pair well with it to combat that nasty BFD. You'd have a very comfortable & questionably slick plate setup to move around in. But at that price, I'd rather be running IV ceramic plates at a similar/slightly-higher weight.
Same here. You could just incorporate some soft 3A panels into your $300 level 4 rig (covering your sides and stomach) and be MUCH more effective in most scenarios.
Hey Buffman, just an idea: Can you get another one of these panels and test a fresh one standalone with your usual lineup of guns/calibers? I'd like to see what a fresh one could do against unrated calibers like .308/M80 and up, just for science :D. Lol.
It'd probably go through if you use the long guns, but since it stopped M855A1, the usual armor killer, (albeit out of an SBR and not the 22" barrel, but it was compromised armor by that point anyway) I think it would get interesting.
I really appreciate your testing sir@
Thank you!
That Flexible rifle armor is impressive. If it will stop 308. 7 62x39 m193 and m855 then I'm game.
Saw another video of some guy shooting with those rounds and it stopped it
Great test buffman. I was wondering if the next time you tested ceramics you could shake the plates between shots to simulate an actual gunfight.
@Great White not with this one no
Great test as usual
Thanks for watching
@@BuffRANGE yes sir
Exceptional Content B!!!
Thank you sir!
@@BuffRANGE More than welcome Chief :-))
I wonder if a bullet could get between the ceramic plates while the vest is bent and being flexed.
There’s the possibility but I would imagine you’d have to flex it pretty far past it’s design limits
I did notice that the original dragon skin had tiles that overlap which this does not. It that an issue? idk
Very interesting plate.
Great test, thank you
Interesting. Demo ranch just did this with the old style and it suuuucked. Nice vid
i wouldn't get ANY info from demo ranch he is just a extremely ADHD guy with guns, buffman does actual scientific tests and he does it well
@@highspeed9518 - I agree. And demo ranch is about money only. This guy does it so you can learn and not just trust what the reps say.
@@highspeed9518 true but bullets hitting armor and penetrating is deniable evidence no matter what source it came from
Very true sir
I feel like this is better suited to side or abdominal armor. Lvl IV standalone as main plates with this type as side/abdominal would be good kit
Neck, shoulder and forearms
Lvl 4 is heavy and for normies. Nobody using a 308 ap in cqb lmao.
Why don't you use a rolling pin so the clay backer is neater.
Do you think that would matter much at 2794.95 ftlbs?
@@Kycirion DON'T YOU JUDGE HIM
Please test this with the BA shredder load!
That would destroy this at quite a distance.
@@BuffRANGE your armor testing is invaluable; Ihave several LEO family members who detailed me their their armor setups, it's unfortunate that some are ill-equipped to handle special threats from long guns. My uncle's dept issues the whole FRAS kit without a 3A backer 😱, they assumed it was one panel to stop all threats. I let him know ASAP with this vid as proof.
@@SuspiciousGanymede I’m curious what their opinion is of my demos? Do they find it useful data?
@@BuffRANGE I have only gotten into significant conversation on armor threats with my uncle as of yesterday. Most just blindly trust their depts to give them what works without regard. I can contact you on IG; I was thinking of asking him what all kit they use (he's SWAT also) and maybe compiling a playlist of your armor testing to give as a presentation.
@@SuspiciousGanymede - wow lots of tax money for protection they don’t need.
Very nice test
Thank you
Hey brother, I am a police officer, I currenly run the ICW Shotstop plates and since this new issue with them came out I am contemplating to buy these Fras plates. Are they light and flexible like they advertise? and which plates would you wear if you were a full time police officer? Thank you, Amazing channel
What threats do you want to stop against? If you're level III currently, these FRAS would cover you against M855. The FRAS IMO is a pretty solid design, but doesn't handle .308 as well for backface.
The 10x12 weighs almost 4 lbs and it's very light flexible and comfortable. The 11x14 weigh over 5 lbs And it's flexible and comfy but not that light. It's not bad in a backpack but all-day vest use .maybe go with safelifes hyperline. It's more comfy and just as good. Look it up . They're a pretty penny but worth it IMO. I haven't found one on the market as good.
I'll stick with lightweight level 4 plates and call it good to go.
3+ like rma 1092 is all you need. Anything above m855a1 is unrealistic and not worth double the carry weight.
@@MobileAura with good level 4 plates like the 1199/192 coming in at almost the same weight as the 1092, the extra 2 pounds is virtually unnoticeable in a good carrier. It's all a game of how much you want to spend for protection and what your preference is.
@@MobileAura Good level 4 plates weigh the same (ore even less) as level 3+ plates.
@@Gruntreviews 2 pounds is a huge difference, flexible is everything. Lvl 4 is for normies/newbies. ☺️
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Engage the hyperdrive!
5:51 definitely the a1. *MYEHHH*
Honestly, with the switch of the military standard ammunition type, to a semi-armor defeating type, companies need to upgrade
The problem is until the NIJ releases standards to address the new threats, no one is compelled to upgrade. NIJ 07 got proposed like 5-6 yrs ago and we're still waiting for them to finalize it.
I thought it was supposed to stop green tip???
M855 is green tip. M855a1 is not green tip. It’s EPR
Interesting!
Very!
.nice to see the new bungies Lol
Any chane you could test a Hardwire III+ plate?
That sounds interesting. I believe they manufacturer their own stuff?
Dragon scales?
@16:00 why did you not have the level 3A vest on?
Likely just forgot to put it back in there.
So I'd imagine m61 would zip through?
no
Great video! I am conflicted on these the tech seems cool but the lack of NIJ testing makes me a bit nervous especially for the price. Any plans to test the new hesco m210 plate?
I think the hexar plate by stealth armor systems, who have the original dragon skin developers, has level 3 nij cert
@@matthewdavis7588 Well the original dragon skin developer proved himself to be an unethical piece of shit, so that's not exactly a selling point.
Awesome video as always Buffman. Always love watching your stuff and am always recommending and tagging you on Facebook
Awesome thank you! I appreciate it very much!
Awesome armor test!!!
Thank you!
@@BuffRANGE you've ruined me for other armor/ammo test channels, if/when I do watch others I just click off because they don't reach the Buffman standard haha 😆
@@JB-Was-Here I appreciate that very much!
Nice
I wanted to hate on these guys for copying Stealth Armor Systems, but it’s a pretty impressive plate one way or another.
Stealth armor systems is still better IMO.
@@xXsniperXxDF1 I guess Buffman’ll have to put it to the test and find out.
@@PolynesianSaus I certainly hope so!
We're working with Bain to get some for testing.
@@BuffRANGE Yesssss
What happened to their wrap around vest that was level IV?
I think it was only level IV when you put the ICW plate in front of it.
@@BuffRANGE i swear man, it's an example of the dang Mandela Effect
Could you test the fras with a fras backer instead of a 3a backer? Thanks!
What's a FRAS backer?
@@BuffRANGE just 2 pieces of fras together... so fras then fras rather than fras then 3a.
@@ems_nightcreature8209 I heard you like FRAS so I put FRAS on your FRAS.
@@snek9353 Cool!
@@ems_nightcreature8209 just get ESAPI plates at that point.
Hey buffman, I've got some underwood controlled chaos I'd like to send you for testing 💪😉
Sounds good, what caliber?
@@BuffRANGE 7.62x39?
@@Minutes-Mils oHH :D
@@BuffRANGE I'll send 10 rounds just tell me where my man
Mr.Huffman or any one can you let me know where I could possibly find the new m855 a1 epr? I can't find this rd in any tool supply store's in my area, north east ohio
Good luck. Try GunBroker. .)
Isn’t this round 100.00 a round? 3,000 for a mag full.
@@peterv1318 m855a1 I believe is under $5/rd right now.
How many guns do you know? I know 100+ guns, like COLT SMG 633 Or Hecate-II
Please find/make time for the 135 Gr Hydra Shok Deep Gel and Bone test.
Do you know where to find the bone stimulant?
@@BuffRANGE Improvisional stuff, like oversized Dog Bone from a Pet store, slab of ribs, etc. Might not be 100% relatable to human bone, but it's still a interesting test to see, instead of just gel. The main thing is just something. Some form of bone.
Evolution of DragonSkin that was shit on by incorrect testing...layered discs to be flexible. Except the old D/S didn't need anthing extra for it's full protection.
Nice test. Curious what is your go to shtf body armor?? Thank you
Militech RF2 and RMA 1155 for now.
@@BuffRANGE Good stuff
Thank you
Your channel is #1 in armor testing/destroying #1
@@BuffRANGE Do you have your eyes on a particular armor to replace those?
@@thealize808 Possibly the Gen 2 RMA 1092 if it's real, and Maybe their 1192. I want to evaluate Highcom at some point as they have some 3+ offerings that on paper have some awesome specs. If I had the money and I could test the Hesco 4800 those might get my $$.
@@BuffRANGE The highcom 3s9m 3++ looks interesting on paper
How well would you think this would work as a backer to a full on lvl iv plate like you did with the iiia backing the safe lite?
That would definitely add quite a bit of protection to it. Giving another ceramic layer to break up projectiles, it would be interesting.
@@BuffRANGE i feel like it might be a little heavy but idk the weight of the fras compared to a normal 3a backing
@@waltersobchak3903 normal IIIA backer is about 1lb, or thereabouts.
It would work but its really unnecessary and not worth the added weight and bulk. Good Level IV will stop most realistic threats. a lvl IIIa backer is better if you want a little added protection, especially to help with backface deformation
@@ryanpeck3377 if the fras isn’t that much heavier if at all than normal iiia backing already behind a lot of peoples rifle plates it would be a decent amount of protection added with little to no shift in how it feels/performs or weighs just a thought🤷♂️
Can you confirm that FRAS with level 3a can stop M855A1 EPR consistently? Was that a 1 time lucky stop or can it stop it multiple times? What about the 5.56 AP round? I forget the name M933 m955? or whatever. Can those 2 armors combined stop it consistently?
Because if that's true that makes those 2 combo a real winner for regular wear! due to movability and light weight!
You will need an NIJ level IV plate to stop M995. Consistently stop M855A1, I would need to test the panel again. They have a new III+ standalone which would have pretty much the same strike face, but with more backing material. Maybe If I can get one from them I'll test more A1 at it.
@@BuffRANGE my apologies when I made that comment I misunderstood what rounds you were using.
I thought you only shot 1 m855a1. You actually shot about 5 rounds and all were stopped minus the 1 that was on the very edge.
That one on edge that went through. Did you have the level 3a vest on at that time or did you not have the vest behind it for that last m855a1 shot? The video is a little unclear.
Again my apologies the original set of m855a1s that got stopped with level 3a vest on I thought were m855 green tip when I first watched.
So the FRAS with level 3a can overall stop m855a1 epr. I find that utterly amazing 👏 😍
@@BuffRANGE that level 3+ you mentioned is that still flexible or is that a solid plate?
BTW per my other comment, you should definitely try shooting these flexible plates at an angle. Thats was one reason dragon scale/skin (whatever it was called) did not pass the military testing. Angle shots would go through the armor. So in urban environments or prone bullets are likely to slip through.
The other issue was gas or diesel or some other liquid would cause the vest to fall apart. Now not an issue for most people but was a disqualify issue for military.
Dragon skin was a hot topic when I was in and ita disqualifying issues made a lot of people sad lol
@@DCMAKER133 The edge shot was without the IIIA. It would be interesting to see if the FRAS will do 16" or longer barrels.
FRAS is unique in that it is a direct chinesium ripoff of Stealth Armor Systems's Hexar. It is also non NIJ-certified unlike Hexar.
Except it's not Chinesium. It's Italianesium :D
I thought those were an ICW plates.
Yes for .308 threats they are.
For .308 but they're supposed to be stand-alone for 556/76239
@@TheZbadam1 yep. They now sell a level III standalone model. It’s 1lb heavier.
Another great video. But I think I’ll stick w my AR500 armor
It looks like when it flexes you could be in a bad situation. I agree keep the AR500
Just So everyone knows all these rounds are obsolete. the Norma mag rounds will pierce anything. Also the anew 6.8 may be powerful enough to pass also.
you don't know what obsolete means, do you?
In what cal do you need to defeat any armor?
Anddd nobody uses those rounds 😀 stop playing tarkov kid
Advertised as 3.98 lbs....
Looks like it does NOT stop any 5.56 from 22in barrel, but a 3a backer will allow it to stop.
Did I miss something? It looked like it stopped all of the 5.56mm rounds in the worst case scenario test except for the M855a1, which was specifically designed for improved armor penetration. Would still be wise to wear a backer behind it anyway for impact absorption, but it didn't look like it was necessary to me. I could have totally misunderstood the results, though.
@@TheBamidd To me it looked like they DID penetrate the dragonskin panel, but then the 3a panel stopped them.
@@ninja5672 no, they ruptured the backface of the panel carrier from transference of energy, but did not make it through the UHMWPE portion of the first plate. It's arguable that they might have made it through if that additional plate hadn't been behind it, but without a test proving it one way or another we can't say for sure. Personally, I'm surprised it survived any of the 5.56mm at all, as I expected especially the high velocity M855 to go right through.
Fortunately nobody uses a 22” barrel these days. The rage is “Pistols” under 10”. So .556 FPS is trash at that length!
@@TexasBroskiActual 22" barrel at 50 feet is probably similar to 20" at 3 feet.
Is that a yhm suppressor? If so how do you like it?
Edit. I found you have a video on it
Yes sir! That's their Turbo 5.56. It's an all around great 5.56 can!
im not sold on the stopping power but I am on the weight.
I put a sold sheet of carbon fiber behind my soft armor. It adds almost no weight and wont stop a bullet but in my opinion it will stop the shock trauma to the body on any hits that are stopped. maybe you could test that with your clay with my system to see if it stops the clay from being deformed.
you ever see what happens to carbon fiber when it gets hit by something high velocity? it shatters and sends literally thousandths of needles everywhere lmao I would seriously rethink your decision
@@highspeed9518 Prove it
@@Kevin_Patrick001 Carbon fibre is not the correct material for this application. They are great for bump helmets, but not here.
High speed is right. Please do your own testing on it that way you will know for yourself.
@@Kevin_Patrick001 look into failure modes of different composite materials. There are reasons why kevlar is used instead of carbon fibre for many applications.
It's a neat design, but just not very cost effective. I'm sure it is more comfortable than rigid plates, but feel like your chances of getting inured is greatly increased.
Serial #3, don’t know if that’s significant, but that plates fucked now lol
U shoold make a chart like Duog Demuro makes with his cars vidyas and u coold put the boolits at the top of the chart an show witch ones passd thru an u coold give the armor a Doug Score but call it a Buff Score in sted
Like #556 😎
I like it!!
See that safelife vest they made for Edwin? Only vest that “stops” .50bmg. When your famous you get special treatment I guess 🤭
When I get there, they'll have it actually stop it with acceptable backface :D
@@BuffRANGE true!
Whatever that was at 18:51 creeped me THE FUCK OUT
Was it it my kid whispering?
Should probably wear gloves, especially when dealing with exposed lead like that. Don’t wanna risk high lead levels for yourself or lead poisoning for the kids partner.
Soap and water. Soap is the word you are looking for.
Anyone else hear the creepy whispering at 18:53?
That's my kid talking in the background, likely about taking one of those tiles...
#545masterrace
7N6 no stand chance against this. Their tungsten and hardened steel on the other hand. But none of that is over here..
Shardplate
Why test with NIJ standards and then shoot it for more than it’s rated for?
NIJ standards are min. I like finding the upper limits of designs so that can separate themselves from the rest of the pack. Surely a plate that would
Stop a round at 3400 fps is better than another that can’t at 3,150 fps.