1964 Zenith Circle of Sound, Backwards Compatible & Ahead of its Time!

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  • @dumontthe5th
    @dumontthe5th 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had one of these; I was a Zenith fan, my whole family were Zenith fanatics! I played all my all my Motown, TSOP and all the independent R&B labels of that era! It truly has a great sound and the bass alone could rock the room! It was so stylish and modernistic looking. Zenith had a showroom, 666 Fifth or Madison ave on 53rd Street. The subway entrance was under the building. The people there were so nice to me; I spent hours there playing the sample music albums they had! It was in that showroom that I saw the Circle of Sound and wound up buying one! Over the years, it fell into disrepair. I wound up in the basement the insides protected by the clear plastic or acrylic cover! When I moved out after 66 years, I left it there in the basement! I'm sure it got dumped when the new owners bought the house. I had I had the foresight, I would have taken it with me but alas it is what it is! Zenith was an innovator back in the day with both their audio and television products! I watched/witnessed the evolution of their remote controls; I had a collection of them but they got lost in the move! All our TV's were Zenith including our first color set! Zenith and RCA were fierce competitor from the get-go but when it came to color TV, it was all out war! The RCA standard won out! those were the days when MADE IN AMERICA was not a catch or advertising phrase; it was a statement of fact and PRIDE!

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for sharing, I to am sorry you left your Zenith in the basement. I do appreciate you description of going back in time!

  • @DavePeterson64
    @DavePeterson64 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a 1965. Just aquired it. It has changed my life seriously!

  • @daviddisandro821
    @daviddisandro821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that is cool ! i dont recall them in the zenith store i worked at out of high school in the early 70s. zeniths of all breeds came in for repairs. not to say they were bad. people abused them

  • @MsSylkoZakur
    @MsSylkoZakur 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one of these in the 80s. It was my dad’s. I loved it. I’d listen to old 78s on it, & stack all my Duran Duran records in the changer & listen all night.

  • @daviddanser7801
    @daviddanser7801 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome, I have never seen a 78 record that is the same size as a regular album. That is wild. Great reproduction sound quality. Opera is awesome. Great piece of vintage equipment. Love to see old vintage equipment working perfectly fine so many years later.

  • @skykitchen867
    @skykitchen867 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the Magnavox version, but the speakers on mine are square and dual coned, one on the top and one on the bottom. Love it.

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very cool!

  • @kevmichael2064
    @kevmichael2064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My grandparents were born in 1896!!!...in Genova Italy....I Grew Up hearing This amazing!!!!

  • @sopaman1234
    @sopaman1234 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW!! sounds fantastic!! for a 78 RCA Victor really knew how to press thier records back in the day

  • @mranalogman3525
    @mranalogman3525 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very nice but there's no way that record was made in 1896. 1896 would be referring to when that piece was written. The earlier recordings were recorded without any electronics and could never produce sound like you hear on that record. But not doubt, 78rpms do sound astonishing good when not worn, clean, and played on good equipment. I picked up a Shure M78S cartridge before Shure stopped making carts and was pleasantly surprised how well 78's play. Nice player, thanks for sharing.

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the update, I was reading a date I found on the record. Most likely it was for something else. Like maybe recording date? Or when the Opera was written>

  • @JoeOrber
    @JoeOrber 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow, this is so awesome, thanks for sharing 😃 😊

  • @deepakpareek9
    @deepakpareek9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I also have this zenith with same omni direction speakers.

  • @JPa311979
    @JPa311979 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The LP "Long Play" needle is for 16, 33 and 45 rpm records. The 78 needle is only for 78 rpm records.

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for clarifying that.

  • @christopher88719
    @christopher88719 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zenith really built great stuff back then. Wonderful restoration and sounded amazing.

  • @stereobrowser
    @stereobrowser ปีที่แล้ว

    That 78 r.p.m record is indeed (and I ain't kidding around) the best sounding, flawless 78 r.p.m record I have EVER heard, wasn't expecting this and sounds as good as a Compact Disk or even better! Also, for a 1964 turntable with those colored lights under the rotary controls is very 'high tech' for it's time and the 360° degree 'directional stereo sound' design of those speakers!!

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just love your response. I to was blown away at what I was hearing!

  • @tough213
    @tough213 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the screw that is on the under side of the rear of the tone arm is for stylus set down position. not ani - skating . you turn the screw to let the arm land farther in to the beginning of the record or closer to the outer edge of the record ok . thank you for sharing this great vintage record player

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow you are right! It does adjust the set down position. It has nothing to do with Anti-Skating. There is no anti-skating on this record player. Thank you for correcting me.

    • @tough213
      @tough213 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you are more then welcome and I hope that you have many great years of enjoyment with this and it is amazing . the zenith company made great turntables as well as the 2g tonearm idler and belt drive combination unit . to me zenith never got the recognition they deserved thank you once again for posting and csharing this

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You seem to be very knowledgeable with these older turntables. Maybe you can help with my latest problem. In the process of restoring my Zenith Circle of Sound, I notice the very last song starts to skip on every album I play. It's as if the tonearm can't swing out that far. I can't seem to find a adjustment for it anywhere.

    • @maynardcat
      @maynardcat 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks I was going to say the same thing, this is basically just a VM changer with a Zenith tonearm VM was never quite that sophisticated to have an anti skate.

    • @jaynesentertainment1744
      @jaynesentertainment1744 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a Delmonico 24s208 I need help with the tone arm stylus set down position mines keeps skipping and would gladly luv to fix it please help

  • @dave631bnetzero
    @dave631bnetzero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice. With mono music try adding the left to the right in an editing program. I thin k you did that, this sounds very nice.

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was a straight recording to a rodes microphone recording both channels

  • @kevmichael2064
    @kevmichael2064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zenith would be still the best now in 2022

  • @scooterboi8761
    @scooterboi8761 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who knew a 78 could sound so good?

  • @kimchristensen2091
    @kimchristensen2091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the presentation! My dad just passed away. He had the same record player. I was fortunate my brother didn’t want it so I just brought it home last night. I was not allowed to touch it as a kid. My dad had many 78s from his dad’s collection. Now I have them.
    Do you have any recommendations for cleaning the record player?

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am sorry for your loss. That record player will become a wealth of memories for you. Cleaning will be easy, the build can take all kinds of detergents. The cabinets surrounding the player is real wood, use the same products you use on wood cleaning. Unfortunately that won't be your biggest challenge. The capacitors in the electrical part are over 60 years old. They will have to be replaced. It can be done without much trouble as soon as I get settled in to my new ranch I will do a step by step video on the process.

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats!!!. I had one in Argentina in the late 60´s. I had to recycle hundreds of 78 RPM, nobody wanted them. Sighs. I still have near 1 000 LPs and 45´s. Great Othello and Desdemona, who are tjhem? Thank you for the memories. Cheers!!!

  • @joyceannlechner6395
    @joyceannlechner6395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing!

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @ikarosalpha8783
    @ikarosalpha8783 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one of the later ones (1968) and it's great I even have it hooked up and playing the audio from this video

    • @clpear
      @clpear 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For your 1968 Zenith record player, what is the model number? And what model needle do you use?

  • @cool4rocknroll
    @cool4rocknroll 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently bought a similar later model to this Zenith Automatic Record Changer? Do you know the hertz or watts of volts of current of electricity it uses? UK is 50 hertz and US 60 hertz US? If you can help me and what I need to be aware just to avoid voltage of shock. Thanks.

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm sorry its in storage now still from my move. But when I get it out I will do another video of it. With specs.

  • @ZenithClarity
    @ZenithClarity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That tone arm is pretty slick. How do those speakers sound playing Bob Segar? Hes my test sound for most everything. :)

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those speakers make every band sound great. Bob & the silver bullet band never sounded better!

  • @joeymoehlenkamp1097
    @joeymoehlenkamp1097 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one of these with the two nobs just replaced the stylus a year ago this record player can push out some really good sound

  • @DavePeterson64
    @DavePeterson64 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    RIGHT ON!

  • @deep4x4
    @deep4x4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you please show.. how do we replace the needle.

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've moved since this video. But once I settle in I will record one.

  • @ghiagoo
    @ghiagoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    On wow. I have those speakers. Now I know what they came from

  • @alancalunas669
    @alancalunas669 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been reading the 4 year old comments about the Zanith
    Did you ever make a video of a complete restoration? I'm incapable of it, but may have someone who could. Thanks

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately I did not make of video of the electrical work

  • @juliancascio7345
    @juliancascio7345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can not bet a Zenith ,anything!!

  • @petermata5488
    @petermata5488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is that Verdi Otello collection ?

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes VERDI OTELLO (Excerpts) 4:17

    • @petermata5488
      @petermata5488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HavocSun Cool and I dig the stereo too.

  • @reminiscetoyco
    @reminiscetoyco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you change the light bulb under the knobs, our circle of sound works perfect

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure, I never have. I would think you need to take the bottom off. The black "bakelite". Then look for the bulb from underneath. It's good to hear yours is working perfectly. In time you will need to replace the capacitors. After years of use they dry out & fail.

    • @reminiscetoyco
      @reminiscetoyco 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HavocSun we just had it serviced and had the bulbs replaced. It is really worth the money to get it done right.

  • @patrickfoshee4224
    @patrickfoshee4224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My grandma has one just like this, but bought it in 1968 roughly. It’s missing a needle do you know where I can find a replacement?

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its in storage, but i intend to do a video on purchase & replacement of that needle.

  • @tarstarkusz
    @tarstarkusz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever tried playing the "hi-fi" 78 microgroove records on it?
    I'll never understand why the single format didn't keep the 78rpm speed while going microgroove stereo. The sound from that would blow everything else out of the water and they would be especially good for jukeboxes.

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have not, great to look into that.

  • @DavePeterson64
    @DavePeterson64 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can you help me with: I don't quite understand how to: A. how do I change just needle?
    B. how do I change entire stylus?
    Thanks, Dave

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The needle is pressed in, it kind of requires a special touch to pop it out. It's seldom, if ever needed to remove the whole cartridge. I will shoot a vid on how to remove & replace the needle ASAP

    • @DavePeterson64
      @DavePeterson64 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for doing that. Best, Dave

    • @gns423
      @gns423 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have one of these; it plays nice, but it makes a loud pop sometimes when it shuts off. Does yours? Do you know what causes that?

    • @deep4x4
      @deep4x4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@HavocSun
      Could you please share the needle replacement video.

  • @hugolugo7448
    @hugolugo7448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    beauty

  • @christiansoldier1968
    @christiansoldier1968 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to borrow it,...put on a copy of "One Stormy Night" by the Mystic Moods Orchestra,...turn off the lights and go to sleep, just as "Autumn Leaves" comes to an end...just like when I was a kid in the 70s.

  • @abstractdreams76
    @abstractdreams76 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got one of these. It plays but the arm doesn't swing and set down on the record player and something is loose inside. Is that easy to fix by unscrewing it?

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it great that you acquired one, they are not that easy to fix. I can give you a few tips. You definitely have to change the idler wheel. There was a man that could replace the idler wheel. I don't know if he's around anymore. The Idler wheel hardens which makes everything either stop moving or some parts slow way down. The other thing is the original lubrication on these units dry up. It's not enough to re-lube the gears you must remove the old dried lubricate 1st. The last thing is by now the capacitors need to be changed. Lucky there our not many in the Amp. I found out how to do all this by google. I just started using google for any clues on repair. From all my searching I found the idler wheel replacement, the new capacitors, the right lubricant & the new stylus. Unfortunately it was all done before I started my TH-cam channel. I don't have any links. I may do a new video of a complete over haul on this soon with all my searching done over again. This time with links. Look to my channel for that video coming soon.

    • @abstractdreams76
      @abstractdreams76 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Havoc!

  • @brianna2013
    @brianna2013 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought one but the entire cartridge and headshell is missing, do you know any place that I could buy replacement parts?

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I may have a extra one, let me look.

    • @brianna2013
      @brianna2013 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be awesome! I'm really new to repairing record players. Do you regularly repair record players?

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do a little of everything, check out my page. You will be the second request on a soon to come "How To" Vid. If you need to see how the cartridge goes on. The Stylus is still available on Ebay. Let me research the actual model # for it. I suggest you alway run a new Stylus. That's where this Zenith Circle Of Sound really shines. I know I have a few extra cartridges, but like I said always go with a new stylus.

  • @the5loves
    @the5loves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍👍

  • @xaenon
    @xaenon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice stereo, and I agree, it's awesome that it's been in the family so long. I really like the rotating needle. And it's stunning that you can get such superb audio quality from a 78.
    One minor quibble, though: 16 rpm records are microgroove; they should be played with the same needle as 33s and 45s.

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now this time after researching this, you are correct. 16 rpm is a Micro Grove, and as such should be played on the 33/45 side.

  • @tarstarkusz
    @tarstarkusz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It doesn't play 8s? I don't know if any music was ever released at 8 rpms though!

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does not play 8RPM

  • @adrianovicente1895
    @adrianovicente1895 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Uma bela Vitrola !

  • @clpear
    @clpear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what model needle do you use?

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its in storage, but i intend to do a video on purchase & replacement of that needle.

  • @tarstarkusz
    @tarstarkusz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:46 That record appears to be vinyl. If it is vinyl, it's no surprise it sounds good.
    Microgroove 78s, rare as they are, sound absolutely superb. Microgroove 78 is probably the best sound ever released as a home format. (this record is obviously not microgroove)

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's definitely not vinyl, It is in mint condition.

    • @tarstarkusz
      @tarstarkusz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is it warped like that then? I thought only vinyl does that. Does shellac even do that?
      PS... that's a fine looking turntable. It's such a shame that nothing electronic can really be serviced anymore.

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tarstarkusz I have many records from that time that have a uneven play back. I don't know if that was at the time of pressing or if that happened many years later. My research shows that vinyl "unbreakable" didn't start to appear to some time later.

    • @tarstarkusz
      @tarstarkusz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you know what the record is made from?

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tarstarkusz most 78 RPM record's were made from shalack.

  • @richardmann5049
    @richardmann5049 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    NO ... it was not an early version of "surround sound". It was advertised as "filling the room with stereo sound".

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OMG, Of course its not Surround Sound. It was years till technology like that came along. I was comparing it to that. If you listen closely I did not say it was a Surround Sound record player. People need to stop trying to judge and just listen to the words that come out of my mouth.

    • @thecrippledrummer
      @thecrippledrummer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Havoc Sun welcome to TH-cam, where keyboard cowboys troll the earth!

  • @ArmandoGarridoMusic
    @ArmandoGarridoMusic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the name of the record?

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's from the 1925 Metropolitan Opera Otello "Love Duet" Vocals our not listed any where on the recording, further search comes up with nothing on the net about who they may be. Now I'm on a quest to find out. Besides your question & my search, the new interest has made me play the whole Opera over again, in a dim lit quiet room with a bottle of 1987 Robert Mondavi Cabernet Sauvignon. A 9 Double sided 80RPM LP set. Thank You for the question which allowed me to revisit this find and hear it in its entirety. Google search has others singing this same duet (Otello "Love Duet" Vocals Gia Nella Notte Densa & Eduardo Lo Vedea). But nothing like whats on these albums. I may digitize them and post to my channel latter.

    • @ArmandoGarridoMusic
      @ArmandoGarridoMusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

  • @bertroost1675
    @bertroost1675 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clean it up!

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL Your 100% correct. As good as it plays it should look perfect!

  • @tarstarkusz
    @tarstarkusz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No matter what you do you will NEVER get good sound out of a record made in 1896. You will be lucky to get more than 6khz off such an old acoustically recorded record, even if it had been hermetically sealed and never played at the time it was new.
    That record looks vinyl to me. Records were not made on vinyl in 1896.

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not vinyl & it sounds great.

    • @tarstarkusz
      @tarstarkusz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HavocSun That's a pretty cool looking system.
      The problem with the old acoustically recorded records is the frequency response is very poor. The problem is not with the system, it's with the original recording. Your example does sound clear and fairly quiet though, kind of like a well modulated strong AM signal played through a high quality receiver. Yeah, it will sound the best it can sound, but the best it can sound is pretty limited.
      Do you happen to know the history of this record? One assumes it saw limited play on old heavy reproducers. Even early electric phonographs still used a nail on a pretty heavy tone arm.

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tarstarkusz I'm a collector of anything old, cars, trucks, computers, record players, just about anything. For records I usually collect in person. Meaning it would have to be local, where I could visit the seller and hand sift through the records. Hopefully get a history of the product. I remembered this collection real well, I was excited to see the condition of the older records. The grandson who sold the records told me the history. Originally bought by his grandfather who lived with them, He took meticulous care of them. I was surprised to see what shape they were in. I could see that most of the older albums were in fantastic condition. My thoughts were they were never played on the intended type of phonograph like a Victrola, if you close enough you can see the long term damage a heavy stylus will do to shellac records. This album set was actually of a very good recording (of that time). The names of the two singing eludes me now.

    • @tarstarkusz
      @tarstarkusz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HavocSun The grandson must have been an old man for his grandfather to have purchased the record new in 1896.
      But people are still regularly finding NOS items from the 60s and even 50s. NOS tube TVs are still around, though obviously not exactly an everyday find. But one can understand keeping a brand new TV that was 500 dollars in the 60s around in a warehouse. I don't think there is a single video on YT of the first play of a NOS turn of the century record, even of fairly rare stuff like longplay Edison records (which would be less likely for there to have been the equipment to play it, though there is nothing to stop some fool from putting it on a victrola, even though it will either not work or sound absolutely terrible due to the different cut) . Though, to be fair, if you have a NOS record from 1900, you're probably not going to play it (though I myself would, especially on a modern turntable and cartridge. A shellac 78 is not going to experience any wear at all from a 3gram modern cartridge and stylus. Even the Zenith in this video would not put any wear on such a record)
      To me, collecting stuff you won't use is kind of dumb. Every old radio I own gets listened to. Every old computer gets used. Every old record gets played. If I had an old car, it'd be driven! They aren't knick-knacks.

    • @HavocSun
      @HavocSun  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tarstarkusz i agree completely, in most cases I restore my collections to use. The Grandson at the time of purchase had to be in his late 80's. The house was a 3rd generation purchase. I spent a few hours & a lot of money purchasing this and that. I had just missed the sale of a old cabinet sound system that had a wire recorder.