HerdyMerdy ohhhhh myyyyyyy goodness!!!!!! This totally blew my mind! Wow wow wow! Praise you Jesus!🙌🏼 Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu for this comment! God bless you
@@mariefloyd6174 why in the world would someone choose to be gay?? Gay people get so much shit from the world (and people like you) why would they chOOse that?!?! Also conversion therapy does NOT work!!!! Gay people are born as they are and they don't affect your life in any way, so please stop spreading so much hate.
@@tamradwiggins873 on line definition says it all....homophobia /ˌhɒməˈfəʊbɪə,ˌhəʊməˈfəʊbɪə/ Learn to pronounce noun dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.
Disagreement and discrimination are not the same thing. Unfortunately in the culture in which we live, voicing a difference of opinion is now equated with hate speech.
@@pizza4936 I have to disagree with you, we do not all thing the same but we need to respect other people. In no way do we need to all agree. However some things are just plain wrong, disgusting and nasty.
Ben Den So you think love is disgusting? If so, that is discrimination and hate speech. An opinion is “I don’t like pineapple on pizza” not “I think this group of people are disgusting and shouldn’t have rights”.
For a Christian to stand up for their beliefs on CNN and present their views in a non offensive way with logical and reasonable facts is very respectful
Im not sure if it's about respect. It's not about respect, if you were to pull out a scripture about the subject and read it or preach it, gay people won't be able to take it. Respect my foot, the bible says what it says and nobody is going to change it. People kill me with how incredibly sensitive that they are. A lot of people can't deal with truth, especially if it's coming from the Bible.
I can see that you didn't pay any attention to my reply. Did I say anything about hating anyone? 🤔 No, I did not. I'm saying that the truth about homosexuality being forbidden in the eyes of the heavenly one will not change. Man will do whatever it takes to bypass and justify why it's okay when it's not.
His reasoning is completely wrong though. Punching someone or cheating are acts that hurt or bring sadness to other people, acting on being gay doesn't do that. I agree that you shouldn't act on all feelings but he never said why homosexuality is bad. Allowing gay marriage does nothing but make a small ammount of people happier. If you want to forbid that then you're an idiot. Period.
I see Piers is not listening again. He just waits until he can jump in with his opinion regardless to how irrelevant it is as a response to what was just said.
@Achintya Perumal Firstly you call him an asshole... obviously you are angry with him there. You resort to calling people names before using any other reasons for explaining how he is wrong. This is a big problem and probably the main issue today when talking about these sensitive issues. Warren is saying that if, yes you are indeed gay.... you have sexual attraction to the same sex... next step - should you act on that? or not? Just because you have a sexual/physical attraction to someone does not then mean that you have NO control over what you do and how you act.
Am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still pleasing men, I should not be a servant of Christ. ~ Galatians 1:10
Proverbs 14:12 states - There is a way that seems right unto a man but in the end it leads to death - Our culture continues to choose to live in the "gray" when everything is spelled out for us in black and white. A persons free will to choose what to believe doesn't change the truth.
If I believe that I am a little green man from mars it that the truth? If a pedophile believes he is right does that make it truth? Your saying 'Truth' is what you make it. There is not truth in your statement
No i am saying that your truth is not the truth i follow because i am not christian but i still have morals that i follow like pedophila is wrong and people who do it should be punished.
moo92 reactions and reviews, Consequently I could say, your truth is not the truth. Your statement of, " *What you believe in the truth". Because Hitler believed that the Jewish population was a detriment to the German people and the country it was ok to murder millions. That was his truth. You said, "i am saying that your truth is not the truth" You would be correct, However we do find God's truth in the Bible. So the 'Truth' that I follow is from God not man because mans truth can be and most likely wrong. You say you still have morals, good, but where do your morals originate from?
No hate towards Jesus or his good life: it’s just that that seems like a whole lot of awesome I don’t particularly have?Jesus in the 30 something years he lived on earth ended up having two dads, a 5 way bromance with random fishermen that lasted pretty much his entire adult life, and he even landed himself a couple hours after his death that he could spend pairing the bromance to a good end over some honeycomb and fish. Adding in that he got the chance to screw over his own local officials at a young age, if Jesus said anything; it’s a far cry to say my life has those expectations.
@@Sundayschoolnetwork Good cuz I hate it when people do it to think they have any right to judge another when I’m sure they have sinned just as much if not more
@@ItsCoreyLynxxYall wrong. Many athiest historians believe he existed and roman documents prove he was excuted on a cross. Do your research before you say someone never existed. Prove you exist.
One of the best Rick Warren responses I've seen. Being polite, yet telling the viewing audience that not all feelings or attractions are good, while keeping in focus the "acting upon the feeling" is the root of the issue.
+David Hi David, I was interested to read your prejudiced and bigoted response to bibleortraditions. I would like to ask: what do you think of the statistics as quoted by Nkechiyerem Onwughara - or do you simply refuse to believe those statistics are true?
+David David, I respectfully think you should give up the game of righteous indignation. Instead, how about doing your homework? Christians are not the ones committing atrocities, they are the ones having atrocities being comitted against them, for their faith in Christ Jesus. www.express.co.uk/news/world/608224/christian-martyrs-George-Weidenfeld-Patrick-Sookhdeo-Syria-Barnabus-Fund-relocate-charity
+David The abuses and cover-ups within the Catholic church were horriffic, and everyone including all Christians who heard about them were no doubt sickened. But those situations do not in any way account for the practicies of Bible-believing Christians all over the world.
+David The thing is though, is that based on this response you're not disagreeing with the religions, but you're disagreeing with the culture. If a practitioner does something opposite of his/her beliefs, then the beliefs aren't at fault, but the practitioner is. Therefore, that argument is invalid, because you only pointed out how much of a hypocrite some practitioners are. Albeit, I do agree with you that homosexual practices in the church is terrible because it is something that they are told not to do.
+David I absolutely agree with this. This is so spot on. However I was addressing an implication that you might not have even meant to imply: Christianity does not encourage homosexuality. In that same way, I would like to add that Christians should especially be held accountable for and reminded that they have to put up or shut up: if you really are Christians, then be tolerant. Don't discriminate. And especially don't pervert the gospel into an excuse to spread the teachings you've been taught falsely, based on bad interpretation. Sorry, I wasn't mentioning you there. I was using our conversation as a springboard to address Christians who have yet to do a graduate level study on several relevant passages (you know who you are) because it really goes deeper than just there being just perverts and adulterers and practicing homosexuals in the church: it applies to every human community, as well. Anyways, I appreciate your thoughts, David.
Whether someone is born gay or not is irrelevant. When you believe in Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection for our sins, we are born again, and when we submit to the new Spirit God has given us, we can overcome any former inclination that our soul had.
The argument that if a trait is "naturally" occurring that behavior should be acceptable to society is only used in regards to homosexuality. The fact is most people do not follow that "logic" in regards to other traits. Alcoholism, drug addiction, obesity, violent tendencies - to name a few - all very likely have genetic predisposition factors. No one advocates that we should celebrate and encourage those traits. The argument is naive. The truth is homosexuality is "natural" because sinning is "natural" to fallen man. A genetic or hormonal component does not change the morality of the behavior that we choose to do in response.
morality of something is opinion, just because one person does not something is moral does not mean everyone has to follow his beliefs, same if a book says it
@Ryan Allen awesome explanation. I like women a lot, but I am married, so because I can naturally have sex with the other women, including my family members. It's okay. No moral code to that because I want to do it. People can't see, because they love their darkness
True story. I once had all sorts of sexual desires. However, those desires interfered with my relationship with Christ. Desperate to be different, I prayed and said. "I'm not eating until, God, you deliver me from these desires that are unholy" The bible says live one way, but my heart was longing for things contrary to the way the bible says to live. I was miserable! So I did not eat the rest of the day. I went to bed hungry, but determined. Woke up the next morning feeling very different. All those desires were gone. It's been nearly 20 years, and although I have struggled with moments of temptations throughout my adult life due to outside influences and poor decision-making, I have never been the same. I no longer struggle with or live a lifestyle of those sinful desires that conflict with biblical ways. We've got to "hide His Word in our hearts so we won't sin against Him". The Word of God is true. It works when applied.
Thank you for your testimony, and it shows that if you want to do the right thing you have to fight for it. Don't be afraid to pray to God when tempted. He will hear you, draw nigh to God and He will draw nigh to you
ddavidfreeman I'll take that as an admission that you can't explain it because you don't have any good argument. But then, if you're basing it off of one book that contains no knowledge, why should one expect you to do so?
ddavidfreeman That's untrue - I was a staunch atheist and all my life but I UNDERSTOOD why my Christian friends based their beliefs on the Bible (I just didn't believe the same thing). I was saved and still now understand how my Muslim friends base their beliefs on the Qur'an. 1 Peter 3:15 calls for you to be prepared to give reason for your beliefs, don't blame others if they don't understand you - give a different more reasoned argument.
@samuel moore not everyone believes in the bible and state and religious dont mix at all state and religion and two different things and marriage isn't a religious thing and sex is not a religious thing either, so why are you saying the bible says this and that and people dont follow it the reason why people dont follow it is because everyone believes in different things and saying the bible says this so people will follow it is stupid you cant force your religious views on people and you cant get your evidence of those claims you are making from the bible if it doesnt have evidence why should people follow it?
GOD IS AN OPIATE FOR THE MASSES Actually the Bible never condoned slavery, and Jesus treated women like they were equal, even though in their culture women were treated poorly
@@criticalthinker2380 The God that said the Earth is round and suspended on nothing.That explains the rain cycle at least 3000 years before this was common knowledge. The One that said King Cyrus of Media/Persia will conquer Babylon and free the Israelites 700 years before it happened. The One that revealed chemical warfare and the atomic bomb in the book of Zechariah. The One that wrote in the book of Isaiah the Holocaust and the Jews return to Palatine. The One that holds your life and my life in His hands? Yes, that's the One I'm talking about. Thank you for your reply.
@@therose8521 the writer of Matthew gets off to a terrible start, with his prophecy manipulations. He quotes the Septuagint (Greek translation) of Isaiah 7:14, which mistranslates the Hebrew word for “young woman” which Isaiah uses, as “virgin”. The mistranslation is useful to gospel writer, for the purpose of creating a miraculous pedigree for Jesus. Also, the “shall conceive’ in the Hebrew, can also mean “is pregnant”. The New Revised Standard Version is one of the few Bible translations which renders the version in a manner which is honest to the Hebrew text: Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Look, the young woman is with child and shall bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel. Next problem, the prophecy says that the young woman’s child will be named “Emmanuel” even though angel of the Lord tells Joseph to name Mary’s child “Jesus”. Who in the New Testament ever calls Jesus Immanuel? Oh, that’s right. No-one, ever. There are numerous failed prophecies such as Genesis 15:18 which promises the land of Canaan as “an everlasting possession” to the Israelites (a possession the Israelities constantly lose in wars). God promises to drive all the Israelites enemies out of the land (Exodus 34:10-1) (which he could not do because some of them had “iron chariots”). It is prophesied that Josiah will die in peace (2 Kings 22:19-20) but he later killed in battle with Egyptians (2 Kings 23:29-30) Zechariah 9:8 prophesies that Israel will never be overrun again (it is). Zechariah 10:11 prophesies that the river Nile will dry up (one of the more spectacular failures).. This is also prophesised in Isaiah 19:5 which further predicts (19:17) that Judah will conquer Egypt (it never even tried to invade), five Egyptian cities will speak Canaan languages (19:18) (never happened), Judaism will become a major Egyptian religion (19:21) and there will be an alliance or unification between Egypt and Assyria (19:23) (which never happened). You are cherry picking a few prophecies that can be twisted to seem as if they were fulfilled! I sincerely hope I have destroyed the grip that religion has on your mind!
@@criticalthinker2380 The religion that you think I refer to is false.The world has been taken captive by false religion. God created the physical world that we can see to explain the spiritual world that we cannot see. The Old Testament is a mirror the New Testament is the reality. If there's a physical Egypt, Canaan, Jerusalem, Israelites, 40 years in the desert, father, mother, childrens, Adam and Eve, then there's spiritual ones of all of the above. If we have physical eyes then we have spiritual eyes. There are people who do believe in God, yet there spiritual eyes are closed. So it would be very difficult for you who only believes in the physical world to understand the Bible or God's administration of redemption. Thank you for your time and efforts.
Thank you for sharing your story. GOD LOVES YOU, Jesus Christ Loves You! They love all their creation! So many people abuse the name of God and Jesus Christ. So many call themselves Christians and abuse others with hate, prejudice and discrimination! Jesus Christ taught love and acceptance of all others especially and including Gays and Lesbians. The oldest texts of the Bible used to contain pro Gay verses! On two occasions in the first One Thousand Years of Christianity investigations were called for by the full assembly of all officials of the Christian Church to mandate a thorough research team of theologians to determine what the Bible taught regarding same sex love, etc. In the first investigation in the first 500 years it was found that there was not so much as a single verse that was anti gay! In fact the Bible was found to be Gay Friendly and Pro Gay! This was investigated again 500 years later and it was noted that the Bible had been changed so much that it was becoming neutral on the subject! Radical Heterosexuals began to take over the church. They set about to promote their Radical Heterosexual Agenda and were so blatant about it they shoved it into people's faces! After the year 1100 anti gay verses began to appear in the Bible. Stories and verses began to be completely rewritten to become outrageous anti gay stories! Radical Heterosexual Popes ordered more than several hundred complete rewrites, edits, redactions and changes to the Bible. Some experts claim to have counted more than 250,000 deliberate changes and alterations to the Bible! The majority were NOT benign, nor improvements, many were out and out malicious. The famed Scientist Isaac Newton was told after church one Sunday that what you heard in Church today is NOT the Word of God NOR the scriptures we grew up with! Isaac Newton took note and researched this his whole life and found his parents were right -- the Bible had been rewritten many, many times! He believed a substantial number occurred in the days of Emperor Constantine. In addition many important persons and names have been deliberately obfuscated, changed, concealed and even deliberately hidden and or altered! For example: Jesus isn't even the Savior's name! There is no one in the Bible named Jesus! The Savior's name is "Yashua"! The proper translation of His name would be: "Yashua" to Joshua! There is NO "Mary" Magdalene. Mary Magdalene is really "Mirianne"! There is NO "Mary" Mother of Jesus in the Original Texts! Mary mother of Jesus is really "Miriam"! "Yashua" was raised by "Miriam" and was a friend of "Mirianne" Mary was chosen by Catholic translators to make her sound phonetically the same as the Roman Catholic "Mari"! "MIRIAM" IS NOT "MARY", and "MIRIAM" IS NOT "MARI" ! Roman Catholicism absorbed an enormous number of the Pagan Religions of Europe, Greece, and Asia including the Middle East. This was done through Ecumenical Councils to unify the Empire.: This is how Christianity suddenly acquired so many PAGAN teachings and rituals. Who is Mari? It is believed by some that MARI is in some regions the goddess of the BAAL Religion. She is the mother of the great god Lord Baal! Her official title is called: "Mari Mother Of God, Queen Of Heaven!" By the way, many of the other names in the NT are falsifications and or deliberate corruptions. The Heterosexual Popes even removed verses of Jesus Christ's many LOVE affairs and encounters with gays. Jesus was bi-sexual in His early life. Jesus Christ was very open about His gay LOVES and Gay all night dates! Clement was Puritanical cloistered and out of touch with reality and was rabid foaming at the mouth against gays, people having love, dating and romances, etc. He called for all Churches to get knives and stab, kill and slaughter and murder such people across the Empire. Churches wrote back and politely said: Apparently you have never read the Bible. Both Old and New Testament Include the stories of the love lifes of most Bible persons INCLUDING JESUS CHRIST! Clement ordered all Bibles returned to the monastery that was assigned to make copies and ordered all Bibles passages to be deleted of Jesus Christ's many love affairs! Popes ordered the verses, stories and passages of Jesus Christ's sex life to be completely removed! The Roman Catholic Religion and Church was the official Federal State Church of Rome: the village and then the Roman Kingdom, then the Republic, then the Empire! The Roman Catholic Religion and Church was originally founded NOT by Jesus Christ, but hundreds and hundreds of years before Jesus Christ, by Romulus and Remus. On the very day they founded Rome they dedicated it to VESTA, in honor of their mother who was a VESTAL VIRGIN! She had escaped the horror and slaughter of the TROJAN WAR and the burning and destruction of TROY. The Catholic Church had the Vestal Virgins. They attended the official College of the Vestal Virgins. They were educated in law, property titles, deeds, wills, civil law, criminal law, etc., and the proper recording and preservation of these. It is NOT known to most but they achieved the Highest Honor in the Empire and became their equivalent of Supreme Court Justices serving life terms. They Ruled in Power greater than the Emperor! Any Judicial Decision by an Emperor could be appealed to the Supreme Council of the Vestal Virgins. They had the Power and Authority to overrule the Emperor! However, if they failed in their duties, especially remaining chaste and Virgin, then the Emperor could order their Death! It is also not known to most that: a Vestal Justice of the Supreme Court was required to be present at all events in the Coliseum. Most events were horrid executions of Capital Crimes Cases, The Vestal Justice assigned for the day sat to the far right of the Emperor. Roman citizens knew that: any Roman citizen condemned to die in the Coliseum could turn and Appeal to the Emperor for their life. If the Emperor gave a thumbs down -- they could then turn to the Vestal Supreme Justice and appeal for their life. If she believed that there was any law that could save them she had the Full Authority to overrule any Emperor of the Empire! Any time they had need to cross Rome they were carried in a military chariot with military body guards, and escorts. One went ahead to stop and clear all traffic for Her! On many occasions in National Emergency the Emperors called the Empire to Prayer and Fasting, they especially called all Vestal Virgins! The Records report they were saved many times by their Prayers and Fasting. In time some of the Highest Lady Justices converted to the Christian Faith. They had to give up their positions, titles, tenures, prestige, chariots, personal body guards, Professorships in the Vestal Roman College of Law and Justice, honors, pensions and take up a life of poverty and humble existence! Their sacrifice for Jesus Christ and the Christian Faith was honored by a marble plaque in the Roman Forum which remained for almost 2,000 years! This also bore down on some Church Fathers that they had a growing number of members that followed the teachings and vows of chastity, celibacy, abstinence and total poverty. So some Popes thought it to be ok to take Jesus Christ out back to the wood shed and tell Him like it is and give Him the where to fors! They told Him we are going to make you the official GOD of the Roman Empire... but we have a large number of Vestal Virgins, Nuns, Convents, Monks, Monasteries and hundreds of thousands of Churches and Church Workers that we have required and Demanded to take the vows to be Chaste, Celibate, Abstinent, and Poor and it just wouldn't be fair to them unless You Are Also! They did this because they could not demand the monks and nuns to be celibate if Jesus Christ was not celibate! A monk named Damien in the 1100's wrote Pope Leo the Ninth to persuade him to sanction all sex to increase church revenues, taxes called indulgences. It was known that straights were taxed and gays were not. It did not seem fair. Straights had to "Pay To Play" then so should the gays. It was ordered The Church was pressured by a growing number of Radical Heterosexuals to start sanctions and taxes on gays. By the way the monk Damian who was opposed to gays started a new form of worship now known as S&M. He believed in flagellation. It took on in the Catholic Church and was used against the Protestants in the horrific Inquisition, In the last years of Jesus Christ's life He did have a Gay marriage and married His Beloved named John. In the Greek language and culture the word Beloved is used to describe one's most intimate lover and spouse. David and Jonathan of the Old Testament also had a Gay Marriage! According to ancient Jewish wedding practices: they had a dinner to announce their Union, and then they had an exchange of wedding gifts which was each gifted to the other brand new raiment clothes and they then took up living together as Spouses! The Bible says that their love for each h other exceeded that for a woman! God knew this and Samuel knew this. But God approved! God Almighty never sent Samuel to confront David! God Almighty blessed David's Gay Marriage! If you wish for more information on the subject that the Bible was originally Pro-Gay and that Christianity was originally Pro-Gay please look up and get a copy of the following author's books on Amazon and internet book stores! The Author is JOHN BOSWELL. He is one of the greatest Christian Church's Historians! He was also a Professor of History and the Head of the Department of History at Princeton University! All his many books on the subjects are absolutely thoroughly researched, documented and with detailed citations! Best Wishes and God Bless!
@@bryantross572 Wow lol what a crock. I have trouble believing toy can actually believe any of that nonsense that you typed and I'm guessing that maybe you decided to stop taking you medication and after some time without it decided to write some hair brained theory about what the " Real" Bible said that must have took some effort . Interesting enough I've heard other such claims of different versions other then the one your claiming and the common theme always being that the supposed versions just happen to support the writers personal beliefs on what is right or wrong with the world and of course there text always backs up their version of what is good and true. As is true with John Boswell . He was gay , and focused all his study's on trying to prove that even God and the bible was ok with his choices. Aside from that of course you will assume and may even call me a bigot or homophobe but the truth is I'm neither of those as I've never really had any opinion on the matter of personal choices . I am not gay but have many gay friends and have never thought any different of them or felt any different around or about them then any of my other friends. It has no affect on my life.
@@bryantross572 Hey dude I know you love God and I do too but I don't think this is way to handle this situation just like you there a lot of people who want to show what God really is and that is okay but I think you should investigate not only from investigations that proove that that the bible has been manipulated which has obviously have been but you should ask God to give you an answer and clear your doubts.
Rick Warren is a man of the world, not the a man of God. He states whatever position is in his best interests. He wouldn't want to lose his book deals.
Very well put, and unfortunately this is happening in "churches" all over, the church system has fallen and now we must fight to correct it. The core of truth is now based on the resurrection of all of us, the when we die, we do NOT go to heaven or hell immediately, we die, dead, alseep. I don't know how any of this has been so warped to be used to gain vanity and shows who their gods really are.
There is something we all have in common as humans and that we all can identify with. We are born fallen and sinful. You don’t have to teach a toddler to steal from the biscuit tin 🥫 the child will be told Not more and then the toddler will have a quick look 👀 to see if the coast is clear and then very cautiously put his her little digits into the tin 🥫 and as the parent suddenly reveals there presence that toddler will jerk back in surprise and fear of being caught. Sin is in us from conception and grows in maturity with us. Jesus said “if any man be in Christ he is a new creation, old things have passed away and all things are made new” it’s up to us to believe it and by faith receive it.
Sounds to me Mr. Warren is dancing around this issue. The fact is that according to the Bible Humans are created equal they are made in Gods image,and God made man and woman. This homosexual issue is a life style you are not born with a lifestyle!, You choose to live it. People are tempted with sin all the time if you act on it then you are sinning. We are all sinners and we need to repent and ask for strength From God himself to help us though this temptation we incur.
Rick lost all credibility when he said we should stop preaching against sin! THE VERY THING JESUS WENT TO THE CROSS FOR! THE VERY THING HE PAID WITH HIS LIFE FOR, YOU AND ME! THE VERY THING THAT SEPARATED US FROM GOD! REPENT RICK! And stop discreding the value of the price our Lord Jesus paid for our sins!
Melissa Bledsoe it is make us wonder to see how the giant preaching look fear when they asked about their opinion in frint of million eyes about things that clearly sin in the bible. They just bold in chrush or in their book but... not in the world? Who they served? What Jesus said abiut this preaching?
I believe in everything that the Church teaches regarding homosexuality, and that is that God made us in His image with distinct roles in mind. It is OUR choice whether we listen to Him or not. So, overall, yes, I agree that we should speak out about these sort of things. But I can guarantee you, as someone who just recently was able to view my life decisions in a different light, some of the hateful comments I'm seeing below WILL NOT make someone want to grow closer to God. I was pretty firmly grounded in my beliefs regarding homosexuality, abortion, etc. before, but the ONLY way I was ever swayed and began to truly understood God's reasoning behind these things is because of His forgiveness and love and mercy. And I believe that this should be the main point when talking about stricter choices we as Christians must make. Although yes, there ARE eternal consequences for denying God's compassion and love...talking constantly about brimstone and fire will not get us anywhere. Speaking from experience, it only rouses anger and misunderstanding in our hearts. I will definitely confess that it IS because we are sinners, and as sinners we are easily misled and desire to do what we think is best for us, instead of God. But we need to make the message of God clearest in this sense: God wants what is best for us. God will love us always, and though we do not always understand why he makes things the way they are, in the end, we just have to trust in Him and know that we will be alright if we listen to what He has to say, above anything else. God will always be there, waiting to welcome you back to Him with open arms, so please, humble yourselves and realize that in the end...earthly distractions such as these are not worth it. God will always be worth it.
I agree on many statements in your text but, let's also be clear, all unrighteousness is sin and without repentance and accepting what Jesus did on the cross and rejecting God's word one is bound to hell. Now with that said, sin will always be a struggle in our lives whether it be, lying, stealing, killing, hate, fornication, homosexuality, pride, jealousy, greed, unruly tongue etc.etc.. We must ask forgiveness and pray the Holy Spirit help us with our infirmities. Refusing to accept what God has ordained and changing his truth to lies will sent you to Hell. The church must strongly acknowledge Heaven and He'll. When our lives are over we can't be in two places,one or the other. Choose this day who you will serve. Though the evil one creeps into life from time to time ..As for me and my 🏠 I choose to serve the Lord. Every word is God is pure.
Preach the WORD 'Pastor' Warren, not what you THINK. His ways are not our ways and His thoughts are not our thoughts. And why in the world would we follow what a non-believer like Piers Morgan thinks or says? Good grief!
wtf are you even saying lol? in English? why wouldnt someone follow someone if they're a non-believer? what difference does it make if someone believes or not? lol whys there so many religious nuts on the Internet who spew religious nonsense... god is gay, i fuck him in the ass every day, and he enjoys it
As a child growing up I had had sexual desire for my male friends and female and I explored both. I knew 1 thing though and that was it was naughty and sinful and I was ashamed of getting “discovered” also I knew that sex was for adults when they get married. These truths were always clear to me.As I got a little older I stopped engaging in sexual conduct with males and decided to follow Jesus and asked him to help me and be the person he created me to be. I stopped doing what I knew was wrong and now I don’t have any desire for men. God created everything to fulfill a specific role and it is our fallen nature that courses these things to occur. But to God even our best righteousness is part of the old nature and sin is who we are until we come to Jesus Christ. Our very best is like filthy rags before him. But claiming that we hate certain people because of there behaviour is completely wrong (of course I know there are some groups of Christians who preach Hate) and I’m sorry for there behaviour which is vile and they will end up in hell before what they condemn others for. We see Homosexuality as a sin and part of our old nature but everything else comes from the same vine. I was a heroin addict for most of my adult life and once I was set free from it I have great love for those still bound by it and there is a certain comradeship between us because I was there. And I feel that way for all my fellow human Beings from every walk of sinful life. Jesus is holding out his hands to embrace the person even with there sin. But he is very clearly also showing the way to have your sins cleansed and for you to be empowered by his Holy Spirit. I have a lot of homosexual friends to and they all know were I stand but they all know my deep love and friendship I have with them.
In GOD'S HEART THERE IS NO HATE TOWARDS HIS PEOPLE.... HE IS LOVE..... GOD LOVES EVERY SINNER, BUT HATES THE ACT OF SIN... EG: GOD LOVES THE RAPEST.... GOD LOVES THE MURDERER, BUT GOD HATES THE SIN THAT IS BEING COMMITTED..... THAT IS WHY GOD IS A GOD OF LOVE, MERCY AND GRACE.... SIN IS SIN, WHETHER YOU KILL OR STEAL A PENCIL.... BOTH ARE SIN..... NO BIG OR SMALL SIN, GOD IS HOLY AND RIGHTEOUS, AND WHEN YOU REPENT FROM YOUR SINS AND ASK GOD TO FORGIVE YOU, HE EXPECTS YOU TO FOLLOW HIM AND LIVE A GODLY LIFE.... AND HE WILL WIPE AWAY AND CLEANSE YOU FOREVER AMEN
Thank you for sharing your story. GOD LOVES YOU, Jesus Christ Loves You! They love all their creation! So many people abuse the name of God and Jesus Christ. So many call themselves Christians and abuse others with hate, prejudice and discrimination! Jesus Christ taught love and acceptance of all others especially and including Gays and Lesbians. The oldest texts of the Bible used to contain pro Gay verses! On two occasions in the first One Thousand Years of Christianity investigations were called for by the full assembly of all officials of the Christian Church to mandate a thorough research team of theologians to determine what the Bible taught regarding same sex love, etc. In the first investigation in the first 500 years it was found that there was not so much as a single verse that was anti gay! In fact the Bible was found to be Gay Friendly and Pro Gay! This was investigated again 500 years later and it was noted that the Bible had been changed so much that it was becoming neutral on the subject! Radical Heterosexuals began to take over the church. They set about to promote their Radical Heterosexual Agenda and were so blatant about it they shoved it into people's faces! After the year 1100 anti gay verses began to appear in the Bible. Stories and verses began to be completely rewritten to become outrageous anti gay stories! Radical Heterosexual Popes ordered more than several hundred complete rewrites, edits, redactions and changes to the Bible. Some experts claim to have counted more than 250,000 deliberate changes and alterations to the Bible! The majority were NOT benign, nor improvements, many were out and out malicious. The famed Scientist Isaac Newton was told after church one Sunday that what you heard in Church today is NOT the Word of God NOR the scriptures we grew up with! Isaac Newton took note and researched this his whole life and found his parents were right -- the Bible had been rewritten many, many times! He believed a substantial number occurred in the days of Emperor Constantine. In addition many important persons and names have been deliberately obfuscated, changed, concealed and even deliberately hidden and or altered! For example: Jesus isn't even the Savior's name! There is no one in the Bible named Jesus! The Savior's name is "Yashua"! The proper translation of His name would be: "Yashua" to Joshua! There is NO "Mary" Magdalene. Mary Magdalene is really "Mirianne"! There is NO "Mary" Mother of Jesus in the Original Texts! Mary mother of Jesus is really "Miriam"! "Yashua" was raised by "Miriam" and was a friend of "Mirianne" Mary was chosen by Catholic translators to make her sound phonetically the same as the Roman Catholic "Mari"! "MIRIAM" IS NOT "MARY", and "MIRIAM" IS NOT "MARI" ! Roman Catholicism absorbed an enormous number of the Pagan Religions of Europe, Greece, and Asia including the Middle East. This was done through Ecumenical Councils to unify the Empire.: This is how Christianity suddenly acquired so many PAGAN teachings and rituals. Who is Mari? It is believed by some that MARI is in some regions the goddess of the BAAL Religion. She is the mother of the great god Lord Baal! Her official title is called: "Mari Mother Of God, Queen Of Heaven!" By the way, many of the other names in the NT are falsifications and or deliberate corruptions. The Heterosexual Popes even removed verses of Jesus Christ's many LOVE affairs and encounters with gays. Jesus was bi-sexual in His early life. Jesus Christ was very open about His gay LOVES and Gay all night dates! Clement was Puritanical cloistered and out of touch with reality and was rabid foaming at the mouth against gays, people having love, dating and romances, etc. He called for all Churches to get knives and stab, kill and slaughter and murder such people across the Empire. Churches wrote back and politely said: Apparently you have never read the Bible. Both Old and New Testament Include the stories of the love lifes of most Bible persons INCLUDING JESUS CHRIST! Clement ordered all Bibles returned to the monastery that was assigned to make copies and ordered all Bibles passages to be deleted of Jesus Christ's many love affairs! Popes ordered the verses, stories and passages of Jesus Christ's sex life to be completely removed! The Roman Catholic Religion and Church was the official Federal State Church of Rome: the village and then the Roman Kingdom, then the Republic, then the Empire! The Roman Catholic Religion and Church was originally founded NOT by Jesus Christ, but hundreds and hundreds of years before Jesus Christ, by Romulus and Remus. On the very day they founded Rome they dedicated it to VESTA, in honor of their mother who was a VESTAL VIRGIN! She had escaped the horror and slaughter of the TROJAN WAR and the burning and destruction of TROY. The Catholic Church had the Vestal Virgins. They attended the official College of the Vestal Virgins. They were educated in law, property titles, deeds, wills, civil law, criminal law, etc., and the proper recording and preservation of these. It is NOT known to most but they achieved the Highest Honor in the Empire and became their equivalent of Supreme Court Justices serving life terms. They Ruled in Power greater than the Emperor! Any Judicial Decision by an Emperor could be appealed to the Supreme Council of the Vestal Virgins. They had the Power and Authority to overrule the Emperor! However, if they failed in their duties, especially remaining chaste and Virgin, then the Emperor could order their Death! It is also not known to most that: a Vestal Justice of the Supreme Court was required to be present at all events in the Coliseum. Most events were horrid executions of Capital Crimes Cases, The Vestal Justice assigned for the day sat to the far right of the Emperor. Roman citizens knew that: any Roman citizen condemned to die in the Coliseum could turn and Appeal to the Emperor for their life. If the Emperor gave a thumbs down -- they could then turn to the Vestal Supreme Justice and appeal for their life. If she believed that there was any law that could save them she had the Full Authority to overrule any Emperor of the Empire! Any time they had need to cross Rome they were carried in a military chariot with military body guards, and escorts. One went ahead to stop and clear all traffic for Her! On many occasions in National Emergency the Emperors called the Empire to Prayer and Fasting, they especially called all Vestal Virgins! The Records report they were saved many times by their Prayers and Fasting. In time some of the Highest Lady Justices converted to the Christian Faith. They had to give up their positions, titles, tenures, prestige, chariots, personal body guards, Professorships in the Vestal Roman College of Law and Justice, honors, pensions and take up a life of poverty and humble existence! Their sacrifice for Jesus Christ and the Christian Faith was honored by a marble plaque in the Roman Forum which remained for almost 2,000 years! This also bore down on some Church Fathers that they had a growing number of members that followed the teachings and vows of chastity, celibacy, abstinence and total poverty. So some Popes thought it to be ok to take Jesus Christ out back to the wood shed and tell Him like it is and give Him the where to fors! They told Him we are going to make you the official GOD of the Roman Empire... but we have a large number of Vestal Virgins, Nuns, Convents, Monks, Monasteries and hundreds of thousands of Churches and Church Workers that we have required and Demanded to take the vows to be Chaste, Celibate, Abstinent, and Poor and it just wouldn't be fair to them unless You Are Also! They did this because they could not demand the monks and nuns to be celibate if Jesus Christ was not celibate! A monk named Damien in the 1100's wrote Pope Leo the Ninth to persuade him to sanction all sex to increase church revenues, taxes called indulgences. It was known that straights were taxed and gays were not. It did not seem fair. Straights had to "Pay To Play" then so should the gays. It was ordered The Church was pressured by a growing number of Radical Heterosexuals to start sanctions and taxes on gays. By the way the monk Damian who was opposed to gays started a new form of worship now known as S&M. He believed in flagellation. It took on in the Catholic Church and was used against the Protestants in the horrific Inquisition, In the last years of Jesus Christ's life He did have a Gay marriage and married His Beloved named John. In the Greek language and culture the word Beloved is used to describe one's most intimate lover and spouse David and Jonathan of the Old Testament also had a Gay Marriage! According to ancient Jewish wedding practices: they had a dinner to announce their Union, and then they had an exchange of wedding gifts which was each gifted to the other brand new raiment clothes and they then took up living together as Spouses! The Bible says that their love for each h other exceeded that for a woman! God knew this and Samuel knew this. But God approved! God Almighty never sent Samuel to confront David! God Almighty blessed David's Gay Marriage! If you wish for more information on the subject that the Bible was originally Pro-Gay and that Christianity was originally Pro-Gay please look up and get a copy of the following author's books on Amazon and internet book stores! The Author is JOHN BOSWELL. He is one of the greatest Christian Church's Historians! He was also a Professor of History and the Head of the Department of History at Princeton University! All his many books on the subjects are absolutely thoroughly researched, documented and with detailed citations! Best Wishes and God Bless!
@@mariarusso826 do you think you just can do everything career since and ask for forgiveness if you know this is a sin and next day drinking gin and juice and ask God for forgiveness do you think you can be washed clean 😵 I am not Jesus but I will say if you was born this way you should be born again and be clean wash it
Just like every pastor ever. And the pastors claim authority from God. And none of em agree on anything. What I see is Morgan preaching tolerance and the pastor making excuses for his intolerance. Telling a gay person that their sexuality is abnormal is like saying they don’t deserve love. That’s just ignorance and cruelty. Not very Christ like.
Exactly. He's not even as knowledgeable as the scribes (lawyers) who New all of scripture. It's stupid that a so called man of GOD would be caught dead on one of these shows, let alone alive. Oh I know, it's the church of laodicia.
This is why I love Rick Warren, you don't have to hate gay people, or bash them, you can in fact, help and aid them and give to charities. At the same time, that does not mean, that you need to believe in gar marriage.
Samuel Appiah I didn't misunderstand. I was being literal. Like people say they don't "believe in" a fact like evolution. Maybe they don't accept it, but believing in either one is not debatable, as they both factually exist.
Steven DuVall You know what to prevent further aimless debate how about I just change the word I wrote from "believe" to "approve of gay marriage" Cool?
This is an intelligent discussion. These are the kinds of things we should be seeing on tv, not reporters that are out to give people a bad name just because they have a different political opinion (or vice versa). Rick Warren handled this well, and from this snippet alone, Piers Morgan handled this well even though he was passionate about his stance. (though I can't say the same about him in other situations, lol)
The line is clear. Man is man and woman is woman. Man have a penis for a reason and woman have a vagina for a reason. To please a sexual urge is not a reason and anyone with a sound mind should know and understand this without doubts and excuse.
The "attraction is not a sin" is not to be encouraged bc Jesus did warn us about lusting after people in our hearts. To clarify: the mind, our thoughts control the heart, not the other way around. Take control of your thoughts.
No one genuinely thinks "the heart" does anything other than pump blood. So I'm not sure why you feel it necessary to remind people that affection is centered in the brain. Also, if you think someone can control what gender they are sexually attracted t by controlling thoughts, then please do provide the peer-reviewed study that supports that.
There's also a difference between attraction and lust. It's natural to be attracted to things, how else would a man find a wife and get married unless he was attracted to a woman? Lust comes when you fantasize and imagine things that are inappropriate and it cuts off your relationship with God.
To be clear: the scripture does say the "attraction" of homosexuality is "unnatural" and therefore the desire is sinful! Romans is clear on that as is other places in scripture properly interpreted. And the word says out of the "heart" comes the issues for life, "Keep your heart with all vigilance, for from it flow the springs of life." Proverbs 4:23
Piers Morgan: "You want to prevent them from having the same rights." The pastor should have called out that crap. That's totally unacceptable and bigoted of Piers Morgan to say.
@@hehe42344 if you don't agree then don't marry anyone of the same sex. Disagreeing doesn't mean they don't deserve equal rights. That would be discrimination
My first memory I have was pushing my brother in a stroller. He was around one year old and I was around two or three. The first time I noticed a pretty girl I was around three to five yrs old, she was around 15 yrs old. My point, I find women attractive, but that doesn't mean I have a right to sleep around. Bad behavior is wrong no matter if you're straight or sexually confused.
I love Rick Warren and the way he explains this issue. When Jesus was on earth, He hung out with sinners. The reason sinners felt comfortable hanging out with Him was because He was not judgmental and He displayed His genuine love for them. He accepted them. That's is not to say that He accepted their sin. For many, they are unable to change their sinful behavior on their own. He befriended them and when they came to know Jesus and accept Him, He changed them. It did not take shaming or taking away their rights. He did not attack them for being sinners. He loved them into the kingdom without sacrificing truth. "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. And we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only Begotten of the Father, full of GRACE and TRUTH." If only His people would so behave among sinners that they can behold His glory through us and be drawn to Him. Too many Christians are only too anxious to proclaim truth to the exclusion of His marvelous grace. Unfortunately, before non Christians can learn anything about Jesus, they run into Christians who focus on their sin and don't make any effort to befriend them and enter into their sometimes messy lives. But Jesus went there, He got to know sinners and many of those sinners were transformed by their relationship with Him. Why don't we try that? Focus on extending grace to our fellow humans, while holding on to our beliefs based on the word of God. By the way, our beliefs do not require us to "protect the sanctity of marriage." Our beliefs DO require us to LOVE our neighbors in the way we would want everyone else to love us. Our beliefs DO require us to give everything we have in order benefit others because NOTHING in this world is important compared to eternity. Our beliefs DO require us to give to all who ask expecting nothing in return. Many of us are deep in the sin of covetousness and selfishness. We don't want to be inconvenienced or persecuted. But Jesus said, rejoice when you are persecuted because great will your reward be in heaven. Instead sometimes it seems that we are the ones persecuting others because they don't believe like us.
@@sawyerahbiesadventuressaa4158 Which came first? The Grace or the Truth? Jesus is known for His great love. "Go and sin no more" has much more weight and impact coming from someone who has miraculously healed you or saved you from stoning. As I said originally, it's GRACE and TRUTH. It has to be BOTH.
@@tonettecarroll6103 Yeah but the problem is Christians today are not saying go and sin no more. Jesus didn't "hang out" with sinners. He went to them to preach the truth in love
Im not into blood cults, and christianity is the blood cult having over 2 billion deluded followers. Have you been washed in the blood(of the'lamb?') How revolting. Ycch. Do you eat his flesh and drink his blood at communion? Guess Jeffrey Dahmer wast so bad after all, hmmm.? What a sick cult. Carrying a cross with a corpse in it. WTF!!!
Robert Ward it’s wrong because it simply is. Nothing you’re saying is actually true. If you can’t prove that being gay is in any way bad WITHOUT using the Bible, you don’t have any actual evidence. But I can tell you’re extremely brainwashed and nothing I say will change your mind so I’m not interested in continuing this conversation.
This is a clear example of a week pastor for the Bible said many a call but she was chosen tell the truth and say for God I live for God I die we live by the word of God
Homosexuality does not come from above period. God does not make or cause anyone to be homosexual, then condemn them for being that way. There is no scripture that supports that people are born gay. However there are scriptures that clearly condemn this activity. God loves all of us and I believe that He can deliver anyone from this lifestyle if they truly want to be. Salvation is a breath away! Ask Christ to be your Lord and Savior, repent of all your sins, and ask God to help you each day to overcome all matter of sin. He will help you, but you must reach out to Him. This goes for any kind of sin we have in our lives.
Jeremiah Gibson God loves you Jeremiah, and I will pray for you. The word of God says, "ask and you'll receive", "knock and the door will open". What are you waiting for?
Geneva Colmer :) I've already done everything you've just writen. However, I still find your comments regarding homosexuality total bs. I personally believe that God not only loves gay people, but loves the fact that they're gay. We already have enough staight people in the earth to continue the race and further grow the population, so, so what if there's a few gay people around... What is it to us really?
+Paul Brown totally agree Paul. Religion is preached by men, from a book written by men, to control those with weak personalities with fables, myths & scary stories.....seriously they've been conned. The biggest fraud in history & these idiots are still buying into it. Don't they have Google & the ability to think/question for themselves? Hilarious.
If Rick Warren read the Hebrew & Aramaic Bible; then he would have realized that Scholars have made mistakes in their Translations & even lied in their translations b/c of their hatred for LGBT people, or possibly from self-loathing. - People, the Bible has been changed to forbid homosexuality. The original Aramaic text of 1 Cor. 6:9 actually says that the "corrupted (depraved) ones" and "those who rape men (a man)" won't inherit the kingdom of God. Romans Chapter one is referring to idolators. Both the men & women left the natural use of each other. That could mean celibacy or bestiality based on the previous verses. The Aramaic text doesn't say that the men were sleeping with each other afterwards. The text says "male AGAINST male." Those words suggest violence more than sexual activity. - The Hebrew word Qedeshim means "male prostitutes" NOT "sodomites." The destruction of Sedom & Gamorah was because of arrogance, violence & mistreatment of strangers, etc. Lev. 18:22 actually says: "you shall not lie with a male on the bed of a woman (wife), it is an abhorrence." Visit the website m.homosexualeunuchsandthebible.com for a more thorough analysis & proofs.
*"If you could "convince yourself" that people are born gay, then you might see it differently."* EXACTLY! Abandon all rationality and you too can be decived! 😂😂😂
@@thedumpsterbehindachilis7763 why do you call them straight couples? Husbands and wives who are able to, can reproduce their own kind, same sex couples cannot reproduce anything.
@Mason Moore I don't abandon children abadon, I help place children with different sex couples, I will not place children with same sex couples, ever. Same sex couples want equal rights, let them produce their own kind then. That's fair.
@Mason Moore you are correct. God didn't write anything, except the 10 commandments with his finger, ....... God didn't write the words in the Bible, he inspired the writers to do that. That's why it's called the inspired word of GOD by GOD himself through the writers. But you already know that.
Well Muslims will always be against lgbt. The reason those lefts supports Muslims because the right hates them and the left wants Muslim votes too nigward
@Ersin Emre Hey dude I'm a christian and I know there is a big difference between the christians and muslims. You said you were muslim right? If so you should have taken time before writing that comment, to investigate what do christians believe because it is not just religions that are the same but are painted different. It is like a story that passes from generations which at some point in time the story is changed or modified just like religions. I do not discriminate because as it says in the bible we are equal and we should love everyone as he love us, and to finish we do not have the right to punish nor judge because we are not just nor everyone.
I can't believe that the SBC is attacking Rick Warren after that. That was the best Christian talk about homosexuality without preaching fire and brimstone that I have ever seen.
He is at least a decent pastor! ☺️ I’m gay and open and proud 🏳️🌈 I see a man who genuinely does not judge someone’s character and genuinely leaves it too god. Though his opinions may not agree with others, he knows that accepting all is key 🔑
@@brandonwhite2231 That's what you believe,y point is that we shpuld not force our beliefs on others. Where does the bible say that homosexuality is a choice?every human is created in gods image, What if homosexuality is just something used as a population control and created by god to answer those prayers of people suffering famine and drought? We cant have children, and our world is way too over populated.
@@hensonpedroleon7787 My point was that you should not treat someone with disrespect, simply because they do not see eye to eye with me. It is my choice to go to hell and not yours, and in the end it will not affect whether or not you can go to heaven. God looks at the individual person when judgement comes. So why bother a community that you do not associate with, when you know it leaves no point?
@@bluuryan Oh absolutely! However what you consider to be bothering, is actually called "witnessing" my friend and Christ told us that we ought to do just that even if it means ruffling a few feathers so be it That's the entire point of the gospel so that we could see how sinful we are when exposed to the light and accept Jesus into our hearts And there are many reasons why we should "bother" this community because may of those who associate themselves with this community are confused and I say that respectfully. They are genuinely confused as it relates to sexuality and many have admitted that they are looking for a sense of belonging and identity and that's quite okay; not knowing your identity right away is okay, that's why when we witness we show fallen man that those identity is in Jesus Many people have been rescued from themselves and an unknown identity through witnessing a d many more are yet to still be rescued and we will continue witnessing until everyone has been given an opportunity to either accept Jesus and that includes you my friend so please...do no be okay knowing that you are on your way to hell there is still hope
I see that your heart is in the right place and the good intentions is appreciated. However we cannot just base our life on a story written by humans just like us. Even the most holy of people recognize that the Bible is to be interpreted and not taken literally. All humans make mistakes and the fear is that the bible was not written from gods words but of those who wrote the bible. Back then anyone could come up with a story and people would believe them because like us they were confused about life; they saught for a reason/truth behind our exsistence. If i had a time machine and went back in time before the bible was created and I created a story about human exsistence; I am sure if i convinced enough people, it would become one of the worlds largest religions. That being said what you call "witnessing" I should be allowed to do to the Christian community because I believe what you read is not being interpreted correctly. No one should be told that what they do may take them to hell. In perspective, what if those who wrote the bible were selfish and they wrote the bible in their thoughts to drive people from the real truth so they could have Paradise to themselves. My point being that I do not insert my beliefs into anyone's way of thinking unless asked for my opinion. The same should be for anyone. I will never walk into a church and say that anyone is going to hell for having a belief
The Book of Romans chapter 1 verse 26 thru 32 has all the answers anyone needs to know. God loves the person , and His love , mercy and forgiveness and Truth makes us free when we choose Him.
When God created mankind, he created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Wait wait wait wait wait. God did create Adam and Eve God did create Steve. God created all of us. God did not unite Adam and Steve in marriage. God did not unite Eve and Delilah in marriage. God brought Adam and Eve in marriage. Adam is a representative of jesus being married to the church ...Eve.
The Bible gives moral direction to live your life to be able to enter the kingdom of heaven. Sin is sin no matter what the laws of the land says. It always seems like Christians are attacked because of their views on same sex relationships and marriage. Why aren't these same questions and comments asked to Muslims and see what their answers are? The Dalai Lama talks about how homosexuality is misconduct in the Buddhist religion. The list can go on and on. The attack on Christianity is so blatant that it's discusting. The hypocritical media spotlights Christians but doesn't ever engage in any interviews with any other religions or religious leaders except Christians. It just shows how biased and hypocritical the public and media is when dealing with the Christian community.
No, sin is the transgression of the law. There is no law against homosexuality in the Bible. So clearly your moral direction isn't taken from the Bible, but from a sect of Christianity that largely founded America, called Puritanism. You are simply following a long line of old wives tales and doctrines of the devil. Regardless of Puritan rewrites, I'm pretty sure they still have it written that Jesus had a male beloved disciple, and that David and Jonathan made a vow of love to each other 3 times over again, because they loved each other as one soul. I don't know about Buddhist religion, but I know for a fact that the Islamic Quran doesn't condemn homosexuality in it either, and that is part of the Abrahamic religion. Their hadiths condemn homosexuality, but that is like someone writing their own scripture and claiming it was God's word, kind of like the Puritans twisting words, phrases and even definitions to make it appear like "homosexuality" was condemned.
Love Rick Warren, great dude. Love the ending of this so much. People allow disagreements to keep them separate, as opposed to coming to an understanding of the opposition's stance. Nothing wrong with disagreeing.
Here's the difference. Punching someone in the face. Cheating on your wife. All things that severely injure another human being. Adultery being one of the ten commandments. According to Rick Warren, having homosexual feelings is not a sin, and only when you act on those feelings does it become a sin. What do homosexual relationships harm? Nothing. Since nothing and no one is harmed, I'm really not grasping why exactly this "sin" is a sin.
Geneva Colmer No no no marriage in Jesus' time was a contract wherein a daughter was given to a man more like an object, something to seal the deal. It had a LOT to do with money and property and NOTHING to do with love. He took her as property and could have taken other wives too and many men did! So, please...just no...the concept of marriage has changed a lot over time and will continue to change.
Geneva Colmer That's your interpretation. But since your religion isn't the only one, you don't have a monopoly on what is or isn't marriage, especially not in a secular nation.
So according to him if your a man and are only sexually attracted to other men you should just ignore that pesky feeling you’re whole life and go ahead and get married and have kids with a women you’re not attracted to, and live a lie just so strangers and onlookers can feel more comfortable with you? Lol.... great advice 👍
Duke Banerjee Pretty sure his authority was gay. Mortals were given females to procreate. God, angels, and Jesus were all males. Angels got in trouble for procreating with females. Jesus never had a female companion, but he had many male companions. Jesus and Paul wouldn’t have accepted, taught, or behaved in such a manner if they were “pesky feelings”.
@@Sam-fq5qu We aren't talking about any old "feeling". This is regarding who someone should be with. The connection one has that tells you that you want to be with this person for the rest of your life, isn't something that warrants a "should we always act upon it". If the feeling is mutual, why wouldn't you act upon it?
Why are you asking about gay marriage to a pastor? The answers are in the bible. Men make laws about anything, even laws about gay marriages. Laws of men is just that, laws made by men and it changes as norms change....God's law is never changing.
Sugar pastors. that’s what they are call just sugar pastors, when they don’t want to tell the TRUTH. They just talk about love, love but they don’t know the definition of human love neither God’s love. The Scriptures says; “I HATE” and “GOD HATE THE SIN AND THE SINNER!” THATS IT Rick.
The anchor wants to know that being gay is being born naturally. But whether we believe it or not, we know no one IS born gay. Many gay persons had negative issues somewhere along in their growing years that made think unnaturally of their gender. What is needed here is that a person who assumed a gay personality is to face their past and rise above it.
You are messed up in the head. Homosexuals don't think unnaturally of their gender, and they are perfectly fine with the sex they were born as. And homosexuals aren't born from a "negative issue".
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew ...... He is an perfect example on what Jesus was teaching about.
no one and i repeat no one is born gay.......they tend to have an imbalance in their system....it takes time and training to adjust to the true identity of thyself, its like learning how to speak, write and apply knowledge,, we all have different ways of adapting.....those who have fallen...i ask God for his Mercies upon you but for those being pushed to accepting...please analyze yourselves well....and ask for God's intervention...for we are doomed by our own making..do make a doom for yourself
+David Velazquez --That'd be FEW Calvary Pastors, add the difference between Calvary CHAPELS and Calvary CHURCHES as they are two different things.. If you call yourself a Christian, and you say this with no facts, as you have NO names of such Pastors... making that gossip which is also sin. Rick Warren, however, is one who the Bible says Christians are to, Mark and avoid. He is a false teacher, he supports sin (and plenty of it). he thinks after what God has made CRYSTAL clear that it is okay to be kissing up to the Pope and encourages others to do so, and he is also working for the One World Church - THAT is clear as glass. Mark and avoid him, do NOT participate in his EVIL! (2 John 9-11)
He failed to answer it biblically.. In the beginning God created woman for man period! God is perfect in design and made them "fit together" perfectly and that they should multiple. The innocent perfect and beautiful relationship that the Lord designed. I dont need to point out that same sex relationships can't multiple. And then there's the scripture 1corinthians 6:9 where it's clear that the Lord is saying homosexuality and sodomites will not inherit the kingdom of God. But neither will liars, thieves murders...etc. It's all sin. Not one worse than the other. Just one sin will keep you out! This is another thought... God doesn't mention that handicapped or mentally ill or physically sick people go to hell.. He didn't mention those condition being a sin. And there are proven test studies where they know their not born that way. but homosexuality is a sin. And it defiles our bodies which is His, He designed and created it. God is always Right. God is righteous He is holy & merciful and gracious and He always🙌 forgives.❤️🌱🌸
so? Your belief isn't fact so why should it affect others rights. I believe your religion is wrong and that jesus was just a guy who knew a few cool party tricks but that doesn't mean i think you shouldn't be able to practice it. If two gays want to get married, let them. It doesn't affect you.
John 8:34-36 [34]Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. [35]And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. [36]If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. ❤️☝️😇
Alcoholism and addiction run in my family...I have fought my desires my entire life. It has been a long and painful process, but thankfully I was able to break the cycle. I guess that was foolish, I should have just given in since I was born this way....right? And if your response is to say "being gay isn't hurting anyone else", tell that to all the little boys who's lives have been ruined by homosexual predators. And for all the atheists out there who think anyone who believes in a higher power is just some ignorant uneducated fool - I would beg to differ - isn't it more foolish to believe that the complex universe we live in was created by NOTHING...What are the odds of a dismantled 747 in a field getting picked up by a swift wind and landing on the ground perfectly assembled? Do you believe that could happen? Well A 747 is like a TINKERTOY compared to one human eyeball (Wayne Dyer) (and think of all the eyeballs of every different creature in the world)...yeah that seems rationale to me. And for those who accuse Rick Warren of being a hate monger - that is utterly ridiculous - what does that make you? He has done more good than the average person could ever accomplish in a lifetime.
you can't be this ignorant...Being gay didn't hurt those little boys, being sexual predator hurt the little boys - which occurs far far more in the straight peoples world. Don't you see enough girls being raped and molested by straight men on the news?! Sexual predators exists in all genders and sexual orientations as long as they are human filled with hormones, you idiot. How can you seriously compare your alcoholism with someones sexuality?! EVERYONE has a sexual orientation, NOT EVERYONE has drug addiction. You don't get to pick who you're attracted to but you get to pick from the choice of your alcoholic beverage or choice of drugs. I dont even know where to begin with you because the level of your ignorance is too great.
Becky Rose straight men grooming young girls, female straight women joining a paedophile ring, sexual abuse coming from straight people... so being straight hurt all those little boys and little girls. Don't be such a uneducated illogical fool.
No one is born gay, we all have something we struggle with, eg. drugs, alcohol, an eating disorder, or sexual sins. God did not create that in us, He gave us free will, so our behavior is our choice. FYI God ordained marriage to be between one man and one woman! Remember Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.🤨
The Bible has many scriptures referencing homosexuality as wrong, against God, as sin, hated by God & punishable by God. When we start accepting lies, we stop recognizing the truth. God said, "Neither Adulterers, Fornicators, Homosexuals, liars, thieves, gossipers, murderers, blasphemers, revilers, or idol worshipers will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. God set down laws, teachings & judgments depicting what was allowed & forbidden. Man was told to 'choose' whom he would serve between good or evil. Sin is not OF God, but sin is OF evil; evil will not be allowed in eternal Heaven. God put his laws into every man's heart, therefore, everyone born 'knows' good from evil, sinners only pretend they don't. Christ's entire purpose was to remove man's sin nature & teach him to stop living the lies of the world by thinking, speaking, & doing the things AS they are in Hell, but think, speak & act AS it is in Heaven. When man rejects God & his teachings, he's 'choosing' to embrace the forbidden evils of the world. It's impossible for God to create a man AS an abomination, attach an unforgiveable sin, then not allow him into Heaven. Impossible! Man is not "born hated by God". Man "chooses" to think, speak, & act as sins hated & forbidden by God. This is God's world with God's rules. The laws of Heaven will never accept sin, nor give equality to sinners as he does for the righteous. Any Bible student knows that Rick is a false prophet.
We are to love one another. Love your neighbor as you love yourselves. If someone was driving on a road that turned into a dead end off a cliff would you not want to warn that person? With LOVE.? We are to judge righteously . meaning what would Jesus say.
this pastor is absolutely right...it is not right to act on something just because we have feelings towards it, everyone have certain feelings that they have to control..
I think the real problem or question here is, why is it so important that this clown have morally sound people sway over into what he considers “normal” or “with the times”? The foundational answers are always found in one place, the bible, and this particular answer is in Genesis 2:24
lol who tf cares what some book says... what do you mean by 'Genesis 2:24'? lol whys there so many religious nuts on the Internet who spew religious nonsense... god is gay, i fuck him in the ass every day, and he enjoys it
Piers is not a spiritual person, but more of a PROUD parrot. 1 Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. PS. I do not like the theology of mr. Warren either.
I think if anyone studied the Scriptures they would know what it says about homosexual behavior. Rick Warren is skating the issue, he know what God has said about it. If you don't know I will tell you. God hates it! Its an abomination against Him, which mean its is disgusting to Him. (Lev.20:13). If you would read Romans Chapter one it will tell you why people practice this kind of life style. I hope I have been a help to you!
i don’t have a problem with religion (in fact, i’d consider myself christian) but i can say with 100% confidence that the old testament is mostly old rhetoric that should have no relevance in modern society
+ foreverinchrist1 -- I normally don't answer posts that are 5 years old, but NO, that is no help to anyone. Jesus commands to tell the truth in LOVE.. Beginning with the Cross... not telling people who DO NOT even believe to read Scriptures they'll not understand because they do not have the Holy Spirit to discern them. You also don't recommend Leviticus when Romans 1 is clearer and does NOT have a death penalty..and was for the Levitical Jews. People who say they are Christians, and cannot give the Gospel and THEN speak about the problem in love need more studying of God's word and to PRAY that you have the Holy Spirit.. HE leads to ALL truth.. Sorry, you should know better IF you are indeed TRULY born again. I'm ONLY telling you the truth, as commanded.
HE CANT JUST LIKE JOEL OSTEEN!!! THEIR COWARD PREACHERS WHO ARE TOO RICH AND FAMOUS TO TELL THE TRUTH!! THEY WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR NOT SPEAKING THE COMPLETE TRUTH!! WE NEED TO PRAY FOR THESE MEN AND PIERS! :)
Sean Chaney I know this was a year ago but you can’t go around saying this, being gay was classified as a literal mental illness until 1974 in the US. And it just isn’t. We’re fine, we just need you to stop questioning our fucking existence. This is the reason kids kill themselves. Because of your mentality.
So what you're saying is parents who are widowed or the spouse has abandoned them for whatever reason should give their children away since there's no "father and mother" in that household. You people are fucking stupid
Flesh says I was born this way
Jesus says you must be born again
-Sadie Belle
HerdyMerdy ohhhhh myyyyyyy goodness!!!!!!
This totally blew my mind!
Wow wow wow!
Praise you Jesus!🙌🏼
Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu for this comment!
God bless you
Amen. Amen amen.
@@mariefloyd6174 but won't they still be gay 🤔 and how is homosexuality is a crime
@@mariefloyd6174 why in the world would someone choose to be gay?? Gay people get so much shit from the world (and people like you) why would they chOOse that?!?! Also conversion therapy does NOT work!!!! Gay people are born as they are and they don't affect your life in any way, so please stop spreading so much hate.
So profound
Way too many people today equate disagreement with somebody as hatred for them. I can disagree with you and still love you.
@@empressatheism5146 that's killing
Exactly!
TRUE, I can disagree with all u homophobics and still love them too.
@@pastorbri Define what a "homophobic" believes and does.
@@tamradwiggins873 on line definition says it all....homophobia
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noun
dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.
Disagreement and discrimination are not the same thing. Unfortunately in the culture in which we live, voicing a difference of opinion is now equated with hate speech.
I agree. I disagree with abrahamic religions and think they are venomous, but you're still allowed to worship an evil desert god if you want to.
If your opinion revokes the rights of other humans, or demonises them, then it is not an opinion, it is discrimination.
@@pizza4936 I have to disagree with you, we do not all thing the same but we need to respect other people. In no way do we need to all agree. However some things are just plain wrong, disgusting and nasty.
Ben Den So you think love is disgusting? If so, that is discrimination and hate speech. An opinion is “I don’t like pineapple on pizza” not “I think this group of people are disgusting and shouldn’t have rights”.
@@pizza4936 You're making my point for me, if disagreement is now considered discrimination. In your world no one can have a differing point of view.
For a Christian to stand up for their beliefs on CNN and present their views in a non offensive way with logical and reasonable facts is very respectful
Im not sure if it's about respect. It's not about respect, if you were to pull out a scripture about the subject and read it or preach it, gay people won't be able to take it. Respect my foot, the bible says what it says and nobody is going to change it.
People kill me with how incredibly sensitive that they are. A lot of people can't deal with truth, especially if it's coming from the Bible.
@@mariefloyd6174 You can hate them all you want but you're not gonna change them...
I can see that you didn't pay any attention to my reply. Did I say anything about hating anyone? 🤔 No, I did not. I'm saying that the truth about homosexuality being forbidden in the eyes of the heavenly one will not change. Man will do whatever it takes to bypass and justify why it's okay when it's not.
Your an idiot. I think you should be banned with your bigoted beliefs.
His reasoning is completely wrong though. Punching someone or cheating are acts that hurt or bring sadness to other people, acting on being gay doesn't do that.
I agree that you shouldn't act on all feelings but he never said why homosexuality is bad. Allowing gay marriage does nothing but make a small ammount of people happier. If you want to forbid that then you're an idiot. Period.
I see Piers is not listening again. He just waits until he can jump in with his opinion regardless to how irrelevant it is as a response to what was just said.
Exactly.
@Achintya Perumal Firstly you call him an asshole... obviously you are angry with him there. You resort to calling people names before using any other reasons for explaining how he is wrong. This is a big problem and probably the main issue today when talking about these sensitive issues.
Warren is saying that if, yes you are indeed gay.... you have sexual attraction to the same sex... next step - should you act on that? or not? Just because you have a sexual/physical attraction to someone does not then mean that you have NO control over what you do and how you act.
Its CNN..
@@ricardodueck261 CNN is a soldier in satan's army!
@@frankvanwinkle3037 amenn
Am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still pleasing men, I should not be a servant of Christ.
~ Galatians 1:10
I see you have a brain.
Romans 3:23
From a bible that advocated for the murder of gay people for being gay
Lawrence Eason what verse is that please
Lawrence Eason You mean the Quran?
Proverbs 14:12 states - There is a way that seems right unto a man but in the end it leads to death - Our culture continues to choose to live in the "gray" when everything is spelled out for us in black and white. A persons free will to choose what to believe doesn't change the truth.
agentike2 amen 🙏
*What you believe in the truth
If I believe that I am a little green man from mars it that the truth?
If a pedophile believes he is right does that make it truth?
Your saying 'Truth' is what you make it.
There is not truth in your statement
No i am saying that your truth is not the truth i follow because i am not christian but i still have morals that i follow like pedophila is wrong and people who do it should be punished.
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Consequently I could say, your truth is not the truth.
Your statement of, " *What you believe in the truth". Because Hitler believed that the Jewish population was a detriment to the German people and the country it was ok to murder millions. That was his truth.
You said, "i am saying that your truth is not the truth" You would be correct, However we do find God's truth in the Bible. So the 'Truth' that I follow is from God not man because mans truth can be and most likely wrong.
You say you still have morals, good, but where do your morals originate from?
I am so proud to see there is peace, kindness, and respect when Christians and non-Christians debate tough issues like this.
He sound passive
Piers Morganis also christian (catholic) but he is over his head
Piers Morgan is Catholic
If you say that men sticking things up their arse is not "love" you have no right to call yourself a Christian
There's nothing tough about this issue. God is plain about SIN.
CNN knows exactly what kind of pastor to invite to the panel, they would never invite a pastor like Paul Washer
@@psiwog Oh boy!!! You and me both!!! 😲
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That's very true. But I think even Rick has done a very good job in reasoning with this topic and explaining it in a gentle approach
I believe you can appeal to people better to change from their sinful ways if you reason with them to some level.
Jesus said , " Ye must be born again "
REPENT BELIEVE amen.
Repent believe======you will be much happier spending time...FEEDING starving babies........go do this....TODAY
No hate towards Jesus or his good life: it’s just that that seems like a whole lot of awesome I don’t particularly have?Jesus in the 30 something years he lived on earth ended up having two dads, a 5 way bromance with random fishermen that lasted pretty much his entire adult life, and he even landed himself a couple hours after his death that he could spend pairing the bromance to a good end over some honeycomb and fish. Adding in that he got the chance to screw over his own local officials at a young age, if Jesus said anything; it’s a far cry to say my life has those expectations.
Amen
Ramen...
...noodles.
Not only are we in control of our actions, we are also judged for the choices we make.
Judged by GOD not self-appointed judges!! 😒
@@AmeliaEarharrt absolutely!
@@Sundayschoolnetwork Good cuz I hate it when people do it to think they have any right to judge another when I’m sure they have sinned just as much if not more
@@AmeliaEarharrt all have sinned...my post didn't say anything about me judging.
Ppl so emotional these days.. we all judge anyway and everyday.. is how we judge that matters.. Yah sets up man in the earth as judges also...
It doesn't matter how you're born. It matters if you're born again. Accepting Jesus Christ into your ❤️. Jesus is Lord
Jesus is a fictional character that never existed.
@@ItsCoreyLynxxYall Actually, Jesus himself is a real person. Many atheists believe in Jesus as a person.
your absolutely right, but one must follow what the Bible states when you accept Jesus as your savior.
@@ItsCoreyLynxxYall I am praying for you!
@@ItsCoreyLynxxYall wrong. Many athiest historians believe he existed and roman documents prove he was excuted on a cross. Do your research before you say someone never existed. Prove you exist.
One of the best Rick Warren responses I've seen. Being polite, yet telling the viewing audience that not all feelings or attractions are good, while keeping in focus the "acting upon the feeling" is the root of the issue.
+David Hi David, I was interested to read your prejudiced and bigoted response to bibleortraditions. I would like to ask: what do you think of the statistics as quoted by Nkechiyerem Onwughara - or do you simply refuse to believe those statistics are true?
+David David, I respectfully think you should give up the game of righteous indignation. Instead, how about doing your homework? Christians are not the ones committing atrocities, they are the ones having atrocities being comitted against them, for their faith in Christ Jesus.
www.express.co.uk/news/world/608224/christian-martyrs-George-Weidenfeld-Patrick-Sookhdeo-Syria-Barnabus-Fund-relocate-charity
+David The abuses and cover-ups within the Catholic church were horriffic, and
everyone including all Christians who heard about them were no doubt sickened. But
those situations do not in any way account for the practicies of
Bible-believing Christians all over the world.
+David The thing is though, is that based on this response you're not disagreeing with the religions, but you're disagreeing with the culture. If a practitioner does something opposite of his/her beliefs, then the beliefs aren't at fault, but the practitioner is. Therefore, that argument is invalid, because you only pointed out how much of a hypocrite some practitioners are. Albeit, I do agree with you that homosexual practices in the church is terrible because it is something that they are told not to do.
+David I absolutely agree with this. This is so spot on. However I was addressing an implication that you might not have even meant to imply: Christianity does not encourage homosexuality. In that same way, I would like to add that Christians should especially be held accountable for and reminded that they have to put up or shut up: if you really are Christians, then be tolerant. Don't discriminate. And especially don't pervert the gospel into an excuse to spread the teachings you've been taught falsely, based on bad interpretation. Sorry, I wasn't mentioning you there. I was using our conversation as a springboard to address Christians who have yet to do a graduate level study on several relevant passages (you know who you are) because it really goes deeper than just there being just perverts and adulterers and practicing homosexuals in the church: it applies to every human community, as well. Anyways, I appreciate your thoughts, David.
Whether someone is born gay or not is irrelevant. When you believe in Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection for our sins, we are born again, and when we submit to the new Spirit God has given us, we can overcome any former inclination that our soul had.
Well said Jason.
What an utterly cold, self righteous, unfeeling, abominable remark.
+Jason. Acts 5:32 says God gives the Holy Spirit to those who OBEY HIM. We aren't given the Holy Spirit when we "believe," but when we obey.
God is probably not real
say that on tv
The argument that if a trait is "naturally" occurring that behavior should be acceptable to society is only used in regards to homosexuality. The fact is most people do not follow that "logic" in regards to other traits. Alcoholism, drug addiction, obesity, violent tendencies - to name a few - all very likely have genetic predisposition factors. No one advocates that we should celebrate and encourage those traits. The argument is naive.
The truth is homosexuality is "natural" because sinning is "natural" to fallen man. A genetic or hormonal component does not change the morality of the behavior that we choose to do in response.
morality of something is opinion, just because one person does not something is moral does not mean everyone has to follow his beliefs, same if a book says it
@Ryan Allen awesome explanation. I like women a lot, but I am married, so because I can naturally have sex with the other women, including my family members. It's okay. No moral code to that because I want to do it. People can't see, because they love their darkness
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Very well said !
Joe DaMailman also very well said
True story. I once had all sorts of sexual desires. However, those desires interfered with my relationship with Christ. Desperate to be different, I prayed and said. "I'm not eating until, God, you deliver me from these desires that are unholy" The bible says live one way, but my heart was longing for things contrary to the way the bible says to live. I was miserable! So I did not eat the rest of the day. I went to bed hungry, but determined. Woke up the next morning feeling very different. All those desires were gone. It's been nearly 20 years, and although I have struggled with moments of temptations throughout my adult life due to outside influences and poor decision-making, I have never been the same. I no longer struggle with or live a lifestyle of those sinful desires that conflict with biblical ways. We've got to "hide His Word in our hearts so we won't sin against Him". The Word of God is true. It works when applied.
Thank you for your testimony, and it shows that if you want to do the right thing you have to fight for it.
Don't be afraid to pray to God when tempted. He will hear you, draw nigh to God and He will draw nigh to you
Wow!!! The flesh lusts against the spirit so you cannot do the things you want.
Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
Beautiful testimony 🙏🏿, I thank you for your deliverance
It's impossible to make an unsaved person understand why you, as a Believer, base your beliefs on the Bible.
ddavidfreeman I'll take that as an admission that you can't explain it because you don't have any good argument. But then, if you're basing it off of one book that contains no knowledge, why should one expect you to do so?
ddavidfreeman That's untrue - I was a staunch atheist and all my life but I UNDERSTOOD why my Christian friends based their beliefs on the Bible (I just didn't believe the same thing). I was saved and still now understand how my Muslim friends base their beliefs on the Qur'an. 1 Peter 3:15 calls for you to be prepared to give reason for your beliefs, don't blame others if they don't understand you - give a different more reasoned argument.
We live for intolerance!
@samuel moore ok you literally make no sense repeat what you are saying and say it PROPERLY so people can understand it
@samuel moore not everyone believes in the bible and state and religious dont mix at all state and religion and two different things and marriage isn't a religious thing and sex is not a religious thing either, so why are you saying the bible says this and that and people dont follow it the reason why people dont follow it is because everyone believes in different things and saying the bible says this so people will follow it is stupid you cant force your religious views on people and you cant get your evidence of those claims you are making from the bible if it doesnt have evidence why should people follow it?
The way to answer that question is not what you think but what the bible actually says,yes
bootnsoot Hmm well he’s wrong. There are many references to homosexuality in there
GOD IS AN OPIATE FOR THE MASSES Actually the Bible never condoned slavery, and Jesus treated women like they were equal, even though in their culture women were treated poorly
bootnsoot you should read the bible for yourself buddy
GOD IS AN OPIATE FOR THE MASSES I guess you don’t get that you’re a slave...it started with your birth certificate
bootnsoot it says in bible that you will go to hell if you sleep with another man
Why ask Rick Warren about gay marriages? Ask God, He'll tell you!
"god' ....you mean that thing that has no evidence for it's existence?
@@criticalthinker2380 The God that said the Earth is round and suspended on nothing.That explains the rain cycle at least 3000 years before this was common knowledge. The One that said King Cyrus of Media/Persia will conquer Babylon and free the Israelites 700 years before it happened. The One that revealed chemical warfare and the atomic bomb in the book of Zechariah. The One that wrote in the book of Isaiah the Holocaust and the Jews return to Palatine. The One that holds your life and my life in His hands? Yes, that's the One I'm talking about. Thank you for your reply.
@@therose8521
the writer of Matthew gets off to a terrible start, with his prophecy manipulations. He quotes the Septuagint (Greek translation) of Isaiah 7:14, which mistranslates the Hebrew word for “young woman” which Isaiah uses, as “virgin”. The mistranslation is useful to gospel writer, for the purpose of creating a miraculous pedigree for Jesus. Also, the “shall conceive’ in the Hebrew, can also mean “is pregnant”. The New Revised Standard Version is one of the few Bible translations which renders the version in a manner which is honest to the Hebrew text:
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Look, the young woman is with child and shall bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel.
Next problem, the prophecy says that the young woman’s child will be named “Emmanuel” even though angel of the Lord tells Joseph to name Mary’s child “Jesus”. Who in the New Testament ever calls Jesus Immanuel? Oh, that’s right. No-one, ever.
There are numerous failed prophecies such as Genesis 15:18 which promises the land of Canaan as “an everlasting possession” to the Israelites (a possession the Israelities constantly lose in wars). God promises to drive all the Israelites enemies out of the land (Exodus 34:10-1) (which he could not do because some of them had “iron chariots”). It is prophesied that Josiah will die in peace (2 Kings 22:19-20) but he later killed in battle with Egyptians (2 Kings 23:29-30) Zechariah 9:8 prophesies that Israel will never be overrun again (it is). Zechariah 10:11 prophesies that the river Nile will dry up (one of the more spectacular failures).. This is also prophesised in Isaiah 19:5 which further predicts (19:17) that Judah will conquer Egypt (it never even tried to invade), five Egyptian cities will speak Canaan languages (19:18) (never happened), Judaism will become a major Egyptian religion (19:21) and there will be an alliance or unification between Egypt and Assyria (19:23) (which never happened).
You are cherry picking a few prophecies that can be twisted to seem as if they were fulfilled!
I sincerely hope I have destroyed the grip that religion has on your mind!
@@criticalthinker2380 The religion that you think I refer to is false.The world has been taken captive by false religion. God created the physical world that we can see to explain the spiritual world that we cannot see. The Old Testament is a mirror the New Testament is the reality. If there's a physical Egypt, Canaan, Jerusalem, Israelites, 40 years in the desert, father, mother, childrens, Adam and Eve, then there's spiritual ones of all of the above. If we have physical eyes then we have spiritual eyes. There are people who do believe in God, yet there spiritual eyes are closed. So it would be very difficult for you who only believes in the physical world to understand the Bible or God's administration of redemption. Thank you for your time and efforts.
which god are we to discuss this with? Does the same god council broken non same sex marriages?
The world will change many times but Gods word will never change because he is perfect and his word
Is perfect!
I am born liking free stuff, and prefer to not pay for things with my own money.
I am a young woman but I FEEL old...I want my Social Security income now! Since I feel like I'm 65.
Thank you for sharing your story. GOD LOVES YOU, Jesus Christ Loves You! They love all their creation!
So many people abuse the name of God and Jesus Christ. So many call themselves Christians and abuse others with hate, prejudice and discrimination!
Jesus Christ taught love and acceptance of all others especially and including Gays and Lesbians.
The oldest texts of the Bible used to contain pro Gay verses!
On two occasions in the first One Thousand Years of Christianity investigations were called for by the full assembly of all officials of the Christian Church to mandate a thorough research team of theologians to determine what the Bible taught regarding same sex love, etc.
In the first investigation in the first 500 years it was found that there was not so much as a single verse that was anti gay! In fact the Bible was found to be Gay Friendly and Pro Gay!
This was investigated again 500 years later and it was noted that the Bible had been changed so much that it was becoming neutral on the subject!
Radical Heterosexuals began to take over the church. They set about to promote their Radical Heterosexual Agenda and were so blatant about it they shoved it into people's faces!
After the year 1100 anti gay verses began to appear in the Bible. Stories and verses began to be completely rewritten to become outrageous anti gay stories!
Radical Heterosexual Popes ordered more than several hundred complete rewrites, edits, redactions and changes to the Bible. Some experts claim to have counted more than 250,000 deliberate changes and alterations to the Bible! The majority were NOT benign, nor improvements, many were out and out malicious.
The famed Scientist Isaac Newton was told after church one Sunday that what you heard in Church today is NOT the Word of God NOR the scriptures we grew up with! Isaac Newton took note and researched this his whole life and found his parents were right -- the Bible had been rewritten many, many times! He believed a substantial number occurred in the days of Emperor Constantine.
In addition many important persons and names have been deliberately obfuscated, changed, concealed and even deliberately hidden and or altered!
For example:
Jesus isn't even the Savior's name! There is no one in the Bible named Jesus! The Savior's name is "Yashua"!
The proper translation of His name would be: "Yashua" to Joshua!
There is NO "Mary" Magdalene.
Mary Magdalene is really "Mirianne"!
There is NO "Mary" Mother of Jesus in the Original Texts!
Mary mother of Jesus is really "Miriam"!
"Yashua" was raised by "Miriam" and was a friend of "Mirianne"
Mary was chosen by Catholic translators to make her sound phonetically the same as the Roman Catholic "Mari"!
"MIRIAM" IS NOT "MARY", and "MIRIAM" IS NOT "MARI" !
Roman Catholicism absorbed an enormous number of the Pagan Religions of Europe, Greece, and Asia including the Middle East. This was done through Ecumenical Councils to unify the Empire.: This is how Christianity suddenly acquired so many PAGAN teachings and rituals.
Who is Mari? It is believed by some that MARI is in some regions the goddess of the BAAL Religion. She is the mother of the great god Lord Baal! Her official title is called: "Mari Mother Of God, Queen Of Heaven!"
By the way, many of the other names in the NT are falsifications and or deliberate corruptions.
The Heterosexual Popes even removed verses of Jesus Christ's many LOVE affairs and encounters with gays. Jesus was bi-sexual in His early life.
Jesus Christ was very open about His gay LOVES and Gay all night dates!
Clement was Puritanical cloistered and out of touch with reality and was rabid foaming at the mouth against gays, people having love, dating and romances, etc. He called for all Churches to get knives and stab, kill and slaughter and murder such people across the Empire. Churches wrote back and politely said: Apparently you have never read the Bible. Both Old and New Testament Include the stories of the love lifes of most Bible persons INCLUDING JESUS CHRIST! Clement ordered all Bibles returned to the monastery that was assigned to make copies and ordered all Bibles passages to be deleted of Jesus Christ's many love affairs!
Popes ordered the verses, stories and passages of Jesus Christ's sex life to be completely removed!
The Roman Catholic Religion and Church was the official Federal State Church of Rome: the village and then the Roman Kingdom, then the Republic, then the Empire!
The Roman Catholic Religion and Church was originally founded NOT by Jesus Christ, but hundreds and hundreds of years before Jesus Christ, by Romulus and Remus. On the very day they founded Rome they dedicated it to VESTA, in honor of their mother who was a VESTAL VIRGIN! She had escaped the horror and slaughter of the TROJAN WAR and the burning and destruction of TROY.
The Catholic Church had the Vestal Virgins. They attended the official College of the Vestal Virgins. They were educated in law, property titles, deeds, wills, civil law, criminal law, etc., and the proper recording and preservation of these.
It is NOT known to most but they achieved the Highest Honor in the Empire and became their equivalent of Supreme Court Justices serving life terms.
They Ruled in Power greater than the Emperor!
Any Judicial Decision by an Emperor could be appealed to the Supreme Council of the Vestal Virgins. They had the Power and Authority to overrule the Emperor! However, if they failed in their duties, especially remaining chaste and Virgin, then the Emperor could order their Death!
It is also not known to most that:
a Vestal Justice of the Supreme Court was required to be present at all events in the Coliseum. Most events were horrid executions of Capital Crimes Cases, The Vestal Justice assigned for the day sat to the far right of the Emperor. Roman citizens knew that:
any Roman citizen condemned to die in the Coliseum could turn and Appeal to the Emperor for their life. If the Emperor gave a thumbs down -- they could then turn to the Vestal Supreme Justice and appeal for their life. If she believed that there was any law that could save them she had the
Full Authority to overrule any Emperor of the Empire!
Any time they had need to cross Rome they were carried in a military chariot with military body guards, and escorts. One went ahead to stop and clear all traffic for Her!
On many occasions in National Emergency the Emperors called the Empire to Prayer and Fasting, they especially called all Vestal Virgins! The Records report they were saved many times by their Prayers and Fasting.
In time some of the Highest Lady Justices converted to the Christian Faith. They had to give up their positions, titles, tenures, prestige, chariots, personal body guards, Professorships in the Vestal Roman College of Law and Justice, honors, pensions and take up a life of poverty and humble existence! Their sacrifice for Jesus Christ and the Christian Faith was honored by a marble plaque in the Roman Forum which remained for almost 2,000 years!
This also bore down on some Church Fathers that they had a growing number of members that followed the teachings and vows of chastity, celibacy, abstinence and total poverty.
So some Popes thought it to be ok to take Jesus Christ out back to the wood shed and tell Him like it is and give Him the where to fors! They told Him we are going to make you the official GOD of the Roman Empire... but we have a large number of Vestal Virgins, Nuns, Convents, Monks, Monasteries and hundreds of thousands of Churches and Church Workers that we have required and Demanded to take the vows to be
Chaste, Celibate, Abstinent, and Poor and it just wouldn't be fair to them unless You Are Also!
They did this because they could not demand the monks and nuns to be celibate if Jesus Christ was not celibate!
A monk named Damien in the 1100's wrote Pope Leo the Ninth to persuade him to sanction all sex to increase church revenues, taxes called indulgences. It was known that straights were taxed and gays were not. It did not seem fair. Straights had to "Pay To Play" then so should the gays. It was ordered
The Church was pressured by a growing number of Radical Heterosexuals to start sanctions and taxes on gays. By the way the monk Damian who was opposed to gays started a new form of worship now known as S&M. He believed in flagellation. It took on in the Catholic Church and was used against the Protestants in the horrific Inquisition,
In the last years of Jesus Christ's life He did have a Gay marriage and married His Beloved named John. In the Greek language and culture the word Beloved is used to describe one's most intimate lover and spouse.
David and Jonathan of the Old Testament also had a
Gay Marriage!
According to ancient Jewish wedding practices:
they had a dinner to announce their Union, and then they had an exchange of wedding gifts which was each gifted to the other brand new raiment clothes and they then took up living together as Spouses! The Bible says that their love for each h other exceeded that for a woman!
God knew this and Samuel knew this. But God approved! God Almighty never sent Samuel to confront David! God Almighty blessed David's Gay Marriage!
If you wish for more information on the subject that the Bible was originally Pro-Gay and that Christianity was originally Pro-Gay please look up and get a copy of the following author's books on Amazon and internet book stores!
The Author is JOHN BOSWELL.
He is one of the greatest Christian Church's Historians! He was also a Professor of History and the Head of the Department of History at Princeton University!
All his many books on the subjects are absolutely thoroughly researched, documented and with detailed citations!
Best Wishes and God Bless!
@@bryantross572 Wow lol what a crock. I have trouble believing toy can actually believe any of that nonsense that you typed and I'm guessing that maybe you decided to stop taking you medication and after some time without it decided to write some hair brained theory about what the " Real" Bible said that must have took some effort . Interesting enough I've heard other such claims of different versions other then the one your claiming and the common theme always being that the supposed versions just happen to support the writers personal beliefs on what is right or wrong with the world and of course there text always backs up their version of what is good and true. As is true with John Boswell . He was gay , and focused all his study's on trying to prove that even God and the bible was ok with his choices. Aside from that of course you will assume and may even call me a bigot or homophobe but the truth is I'm neither of those as I've never really had any opinion on the matter of personal choices . I am not gay but have many gay friends and have never thought any different of them or felt any different around or about them then any of my other friends. It has no affect on my life.
@@TheOliviadevon true 😂😅😅
@@bryantross572 Hey dude I know you love God and I do too but I don't think this is way to handle this situation just like you there a lot of people who want to show what God really is and that is okay but I think you should investigate not only from investigations that proove that that the bible has been manipulated which has obviously have been but you should ask God to give you an answer and clear your doubts.
Rick Warren is a man of the world, not the a man of God. He states whatever position is in his best interests. He wouldn't want to lose his book deals.
Very well put, and unfortunately this is happening in "churches" all over, the church system has fallen and now we must fight to correct it. The core of truth is now based on the resurrection of all of us, the when we die, we do NOT go to heaven or hell immediately, we die, dead, alseep. I don't know how any of this has been so warped to be used to gain vanity and shows who their gods really are.
Agree !!!
Agree!
Rick is a slickly liar. Discredited him.
Men's Success Bible teue
Political correctness is sin
Shaun Norris I agree also that political correctness is a sin but scriptual correctness is not a sin.
Pastors are given the ability to explain what scripture is teaching. He's talking to a non believer. You guys have to understand this
There is something we all have in common as humans and that we all can identify with. We are born fallen and sinful. You don’t have to teach a toddler to steal from the biscuit tin 🥫 the child will be told Not more and then the toddler will have a quick look 👀 to see if the coast is clear and then very cautiously put his her little digits into the tin 🥫 and as the parent suddenly reveals there presence that toddler will jerk back in surprise and fear of being caught. Sin is in us from conception and grows in maturity with us. Jesus said “if any man be in Christ he is a new creation, old things have passed away and all things are made new” it’s up to us to believe it and by faith receive it.
'Sin' is nothing more than a religious word.
@@mardishores4016 So what would you call Pdophlia?
Sounds to me Mr. Warren is dancing around this issue. The fact is that according to the Bible Humans are created equal they are made in Gods image,and God made man and woman. This homosexual issue is a life style you are not born with a lifestyle!, You choose to live it. People are tempted with sin all the time if you act on it then you are sinning. We are all sinners and we need to repent and ask for strength From God himself to help us though this temptation we incur.
Rick lost all credibility when he said we should stop preaching against sin! THE VERY THING JESUS WENT TO THE CROSS FOR! THE VERY THING HE PAID WITH HIS LIFE FOR, YOU AND ME! THE VERY THING THAT SEPARATED US FROM GOD!
REPENT RICK! And stop discreding the value of the price our Lord Jesus paid for our sins!
WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE! The Lord Jesus said: "in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men." Rick preaches men's values...
Melissa Bledsoe it is make us wonder to see how the giant preaching look fear when they asked about their opinion in frint of million eyes about things that clearly sin in the bible. They just bold in chrush or in their book but... not in the world? Who they served? What Jesus said abiut this preaching?
nah. Fuck Jesus. That prick deserved what he got. He died for nothing
@@moodini99 if thats your opinion or idea about Jesus ,let us see at the end where your eternity is ,,how pity you are,,,
@@moodini99 Wait, aren't you really talking about Mohamed?
I believe in everything that the Church teaches regarding homosexuality, and that is that God made us in His image with distinct roles in mind. It is OUR choice whether we listen to Him or not.
So, overall, yes, I agree that we should speak out about these sort of things. But I can guarantee you, as someone who just recently was able to view my life decisions in a different light, some of the hateful comments I'm seeing below WILL NOT make someone want to grow closer to God. I was pretty firmly grounded in my beliefs regarding homosexuality, abortion, etc. before, but the ONLY way I was ever swayed and began to truly understood God's reasoning behind these things is because of His forgiveness and love and mercy. And I believe that this should be the main point when talking about stricter choices we as Christians must make.
Although yes, there ARE eternal consequences for denying God's compassion and love...talking constantly about brimstone and fire will not get us anywhere. Speaking from experience, it only rouses anger and misunderstanding in our hearts. I will definitely confess that it IS because we are sinners, and as sinners we are easily misled and desire to do what we think is best for us, instead of God.
But we need to make the message of God clearest in this sense: God wants what is best for us. God will love us always, and though we do not always understand why he makes things the way they are, in the end, we just have to trust in Him and know that we will be alright if we listen to what He has to say, above anything else. God will always be there, waiting to welcome you back to Him with open arms, so please, humble yourselves and realize that in the end...earthly distractions such as these are not worth it. God will always be worth it.
@Achintya Perumal Shalom.,
I agree on many statements in your text but, let's also be clear, all unrighteousness is sin and without repentance and accepting what Jesus did on the cross and rejecting God's word one is bound to hell. Now with that said, sin will always be a struggle in our lives whether it be, lying, stealing, killing, hate, fornication, homosexuality, pride, jealousy, greed, unruly tongue etc.etc.. We must ask forgiveness and pray the Holy Spirit help us with our infirmities. Refusing to accept what God has ordained and changing his truth to lies will sent you to Hell. The church must strongly acknowledge Heaven and He'll. When our lives are over we can't be in two places,one or the other. Choose this day who you will serve. Though the evil one creeps into life from time to time ..As for me and my 🏠 I choose to serve the Lord. Every word is God is pure.
Kent Allen i don’t agree with you but i appreciate that you’re making a polite statement and not hating. props to you
@Achintya Perumal if you are gonna diss someone's beliefs at least dont do it right to them
Also if you disagree than dont respond and you wont argue
We need more people like you sir. Thank you for enlightening us.
Preach the WORD 'Pastor' Warren, not what you THINK. His ways are not our ways and His thoughts are not our thoughts. And why in the world would we follow what a non-believer like Piers Morgan thinks or says? Good grief!
MIFNP . Preach tue word. Simple... True ... Be Bold in Him, notbin what you think ps Warren. You look weak
MIFNP yay!
wtf are you even saying lol? in English? why wouldnt someone follow someone if they're a non-believer? what difference does it make if someone believes or not? lol whys there so many religious nuts on the Internet who spew religious nonsense... god is gay, i fuck him in the ass every day, and he enjoys it
They literally invited him to speak his views...
Weak ass pastor 🙄
Lust is the blindness that the devil enjoys within our flesh
Hahahaha natural human sexual response is evil
Shut up, frustrated and hung-up fanatic.
@@Nonalhomophobie Does silencing people make you feel better?
As a child growing up I had had sexual desire for my male friends and female and I explored both. I knew 1 thing though and that was it was naughty and sinful and I was ashamed of getting “discovered” also I knew that sex was for adults when they get married. These truths were always clear to me.As I got a little older I stopped engaging in sexual conduct with males and decided to follow Jesus and asked him to help me and be the person he created me to be. I stopped doing what I knew was wrong and now I don’t have any desire for men. God created everything to fulfill a specific role and it is our fallen nature that courses these things to occur. But to God even our best righteousness is part of the old nature and sin is who we are until we come to Jesus Christ. Our very best is like filthy rags before him. But claiming that we hate certain people because of there behaviour is completely wrong (of course I know there are some groups of Christians who preach Hate) and I’m sorry for there behaviour which is vile and they will end up in hell before what they condemn others for. We see Homosexuality as a sin and part of our old nature but everything else comes from the same vine. I was a heroin addict for most of my adult life and once I was set free from it I have great love for those still bound by it and there is a certain comradeship between us because I was there. And I feel that way for all my fellow human Beings from every walk of sinful life. Jesus is holding out his hands to embrace the person even with there sin. But he is very clearly also showing the way to have your sins cleansed and for you to be empowered by his Holy Spirit. I have a lot of homosexual friends to and they all know were I stand but they all know my deep love and friendship I have with them.
Amen brother, very well said. Jesus Christ is Lord.
In GOD'S HEART THERE IS NO HATE TOWARDS HIS PEOPLE.... HE IS LOVE..... GOD LOVES EVERY SINNER, BUT HATES THE ACT OF SIN... EG:
GOD LOVES THE RAPEST.... GOD LOVES THE MURDERER, BUT GOD HATES THE SIN THAT IS BEING COMMITTED..... THAT IS WHY GOD IS A GOD OF LOVE, MERCY AND GRACE.... SIN IS SIN, WHETHER YOU KILL OR STEAL A PENCIL.... BOTH ARE SIN..... NO BIG OR SMALL SIN, GOD IS HOLY AND RIGHTEOUS, AND WHEN YOU REPENT FROM YOUR SINS AND ASK GOD TO FORGIVE YOU, HE EXPECTS YOU TO FOLLOW HIM AND LIVE A GODLY LIFE.... AND HE WILL WIPE AWAY AND CLEANSE YOU FOREVER AMEN
Lol. Nutjobs.
Thank you for sharing your story. GOD LOVES YOU, Jesus Christ Loves You! They love all their creation!
So many people abuse the name of God and Jesus Christ. So many call themselves Christians and abuse others with hate, prejudice and discrimination!
Jesus Christ taught love and acceptance of all others especially and including Gays and Lesbians.
The oldest texts of the Bible used to contain pro Gay verses!
On two occasions in the first One Thousand Years of Christianity investigations were called for by the full assembly of all officials of the Christian Church to mandate a thorough research team of theologians to determine what the Bible taught regarding same sex love, etc.
In the first investigation in the first 500 years it was found that there was not so much as a single verse that was anti gay! In fact the Bible was found to be Gay Friendly and Pro Gay!
This was investigated again 500 years later and it was noted that the Bible had been changed so much that it was becoming neutral on the subject!
Radical Heterosexuals began to take over the church. They set about to promote their Radical Heterosexual Agenda and were so blatant about it they shoved it into people's faces!
After the year 1100 anti gay verses began to appear in the Bible. Stories and verses began to be completely rewritten to become outrageous anti gay stories!
Radical Heterosexual Popes ordered more than several hundred complete rewrites, edits, redactions and changes to the Bible. Some experts claim to have counted more than 250,000 deliberate changes and alterations to the Bible! The majority were NOT benign, nor improvements, many were out and out malicious.
The famed Scientist Isaac Newton was told after church one Sunday that what you heard in Church today is NOT the Word of God NOR the scriptures we grew up with! Isaac Newton took note and researched this his whole life and found his parents were right -- the Bible had been rewritten many, many times! He believed a substantial number occurred in the days of Emperor Constantine.
In addition many important persons and names have been deliberately obfuscated, changed, concealed and even deliberately hidden and or altered!
For example:
Jesus isn't even the Savior's name! There is no one in the Bible named Jesus! The Savior's name is "Yashua"!
The proper translation of His name would be: "Yashua" to Joshua!
There is NO "Mary" Magdalene.
Mary Magdalene is really "Mirianne"!
There is NO "Mary" Mother of Jesus in the Original Texts!
Mary mother of Jesus is really "Miriam"!
"Yashua" was raised by "Miriam" and was a friend of "Mirianne"
Mary was chosen by Catholic translators to make her sound phonetically the same as the Roman Catholic "Mari"!
"MIRIAM" IS NOT "MARY", and "MIRIAM" IS NOT "MARI" !
Roman Catholicism absorbed an enormous number of the Pagan Religions of Europe, Greece, and Asia including the Middle East. This was done through Ecumenical Councils to unify the Empire.: This is how Christianity suddenly acquired so many PAGAN teachings and rituals.
Who is Mari? It is believed by some that MARI is in some regions the goddess of the BAAL Religion. She is the mother of the great god Lord Baal! Her official title is called: "Mari Mother Of God, Queen Of Heaven!"
By the way, many of the other names in the NT are falsifications and or deliberate corruptions.
The Heterosexual Popes even removed verses of Jesus Christ's many LOVE affairs and encounters with gays. Jesus was bi-sexual in His early life.
Jesus Christ was very open about His gay LOVES and Gay all night dates!
Clement was Puritanical cloistered and out of touch with reality and was rabid foaming at the mouth against gays, people having love, dating and romances, etc. He called for all Churches to get knives and stab, kill and slaughter and murder such people across the Empire. Churches wrote back and politely said: Apparently you have never read the Bible. Both Old and New Testament Include the stories of the love lifes of most Bible persons INCLUDING JESUS CHRIST! Clement ordered all Bibles returned to the monastery that was assigned to make copies and ordered all Bibles passages to be deleted of Jesus Christ's many love affairs!
Popes ordered the verses, stories and passages of Jesus Christ's sex life to be completely removed!
The Roman Catholic Religion and Church was the official Federal State Church of Rome: the village and then the Roman Kingdom, then the Republic, then the Empire!
The Roman Catholic Religion and Church was originally founded NOT by Jesus Christ, but hundreds and hundreds of years before Jesus Christ, by Romulus and Remus. On the very day they founded Rome they dedicated it to VESTA, in honor of their mother who was a VESTAL VIRGIN! She had escaped the horror and slaughter of the TROJAN WAR and the burning and destruction of TROY.
The Catholic Church had the Vestal Virgins. They attended the official College of the Vestal Virgins. They were educated in law, property titles, deeds, wills, civil law, criminal law, etc., and the proper recording and preservation of these.
It is NOT known to most but they achieved the Highest Honor in the Empire and became their equivalent of Supreme Court Justices serving life terms.
They Ruled in Power greater than the Emperor!
Any Judicial Decision by an Emperor could be appealed to the Supreme Council of the Vestal Virgins. They had the Power and Authority to overrule the Emperor! However, if they failed in their duties, especially remaining chaste and Virgin, then the Emperor could order their Death!
It is also not known to most that:
a Vestal Justice of the Supreme Court was required to be present at all events in the Coliseum. Most events were horrid executions of Capital Crimes Cases, The Vestal Justice assigned for the day sat to the far right of the Emperor. Roman citizens knew that:
any Roman citizen condemned to die in the Coliseum could turn and Appeal to the Emperor for their life. If the Emperor gave a thumbs down -- they could then turn to the Vestal Supreme Justice and appeal for their life. If she believed that there was any law that could save them she had the
Full Authority to overrule any Emperor of the Empire!
Any time they had need to cross Rome they were carried in a military chariot with military body guards, and escorts. One went ahead to stop and clear all traffic for Her!
On many occasions in National Emergency the Emperors called the Empire to Prayer and Fasting, they especially called all Vestal Virgins! The Records report they were saved many times by their Prayers and Fasting.
In time some of the Highest Lady Justices converted to the Christian Faith. They had to give up their positions, titles, tenures, prestige, chariots, personal body guards, Professorships in the Vestal Roman College of Law and Justice, honors, pensions and take up a life of poverty and humble existence! Their sacrifice for Jesus Christ and the Christian Faith was honored by a marble plaque in the Roman Forum which remained for almost 2,000 years!
This also bore down on some Church Fathers that they had a growing number of members that followed the teachings and vows of chastity, celibacy, abstinence and total poverty.
So some Popes thought it to be ok to take Jesus Christ out back to the wood shed and tell Him like it is and give Him the where to fors! They told Him we are going to make you the official GOD of the Roman Empire... but we have a large number of Vestal Virgins, Nuns, Convents, Monks, Monasteries and hundreds of thousands of Churches and Church Workers that we have required and Demanded to take the vows to be
Chaste, Celibate, Abstinent, and Poor and it just wouldn't be fair to them unless You Are Also!
They did this because they could not demand the monks and nuns to be celibate if Jesus Christ was not celibate!
A monk named Damien in the 1100's wrote Pope Leo the Ninth to persuade him to sanction all sex to increase church revenues, taxes called indulgences. It was known that straights were taxed and gays were not. It did not seem fair. Straights had to "Pay To Play" then so should the gays. It was ordered
The Church was pressured by a growing number of Radical Heterosexuals to start sanctions and taxes on gays. By the way the monk Damian who was opposed to gays started a new form of worship now known as S&M. He believed in flagellation. It took on in the Catholic Church and was used against the Protestants in the horrific Inquisition,
In the last years of Jesus Christ's life He did have a Gay marriage and married His Beloved named John. In the Greek language and culture the word Beloved is used to describe one's most intimate lover and spouse
David and Jonathan of the Old Testament also had a
Gay Marriage!
According to ancient Jewish wedding practices:
they had a dinner to announce their Union, and then they had an exchange of wedding gifts which was each gifted to the other brand new raiment clothes and they then took up living together as Spouses! The Bible says that their love for each h other exceeded that for a woman!
God knew this and Samuel knew this. But God approved! God Almighty never sent Samuel to confront David! God Almighty blessed David's Gay Marriage!
If you wish for more information on the subject that the Bible was originally Pro-Gay and that Christianity was originally Pro-Gay please look up and get a copy of the following author's books on Amazon and internet book stores!
The Author is JOHN BOSWELL.
He is one of the greatest Christian Church's Historians! He was also a Professor of History and the Head of the Department of History at Princeton University!
All his many books on the subjects are absolutely thoroughly researched, documented and with detailed citations!
Best Wishes and God Bless!
@@mariarusso826 do you think you just can do everything career since and ask for forgiveness if you know this is a sin and next day drinking gin and juice and ask God for forgiveness do you think you can be washed clean 😵 I am not Jesus but I will say if you was born this way you should be born again and be clean wash it
Morgan says “I think...” then continues on as if what he “thinks” is actually solid truth
Just like every pastor ever. And the pastors claim authority from God. And none of em agree on anything. What I see is Morgan preaching tolerance and the pastor making excuses for his intolerance. Telling a gay person that their sexuality is abnormal is like saying they don’t deserve love. That’s just ignorance and cruelty. Not very Christ like.
Exactly. He's not even as knowledgeable as the scribes (lawyers) who New all of scripture. It's stupid that a so called man of GOD would be caught dead on one of these shows, let alone alive. Oh I know, it's the church of laodicia.
@@1980EW The only thing the pastors agree on is funnelling $$$$$$ into their accounts.
God would not "create" people gay, and call it a sin.
amen.
That's about as simple of an explanation of it you can have that anyone can understand.
amen to that!!
This is why I love Rick Warren, you don't have to hate gay people, or bash them, you can in fact, help and aid them and give to charities. At the same time, that does not mean, that you need to believe in gar marriage.
+Samuel Appiah So true.
Gay marriage is a fact. It empirically exists. One can't "not believe" in something that is 100% proven to exist.
Steven DuVall LOL you completely misunderstood what I meant by "believe".
What I meant by "believe" is to approve of it, or think it's okay
Samuel Appiah I didn't misunderstand. I was being literal. Like people say they don't "believe in" a fact like evolution. Maybe they don't accept it, but believing in either one is not debatable, as they both factually exist.
Steven DuVall
You know what to prevent further aimless debate how about I just change the word I wrote from "believe" to "approve of gay marriage"
Cool?
This is an intelligent discussion. These are the kinds of things we should be seeing on tv, not reporters that are out to give people a bad name just because they have a different political opinion (or vice versa). Rick Warren handled this well, and from this snippet alone, Piers Morgan handled this well even though he was passionate about his stance. (though I can't say the same about him in other situations, lol)
The line is clear.
Man is man and woman is woman.
Man have a penis for a reason and woman have a vagina for a reason.
To please a sexual urge is not a reason and anyone with a sound mind should know and understand this without doubts and excuse.
The "attraction is not a sin" is not to be encouraged bc Jesus did warn us about lusting after people in our hearts. To clarify: the mind, our thoughts control the heart, not the other way around. Take control of your thoughts.
No one genuinely thinks "the heart" does anything other than pump blood. So I'm not sure why you feel it necessary to remind people that affection is centered in the brain. Also, if you think someone can control what gender they are sexually attracted t by controlling thoughts, then please do provide the peer-reviewed study that supports that.
There's also a difference between attraction and lust. It's natural to be attracted to things, how else would a man find a wife and get married unless he was attracted to a woman? Lust comes when you fantasize and imagine things that are inappropriate and it cuts off your relationship with God.
@@derekstreet322 Exactly, attraction is a broad term, it doesn't have to encompass lust at all, be it same-sex, or whatever...
To be clear: the scripture does say the "attraction" of homosexuality is "unnatural" and therefore the desire is sinful! Romans is clear on that as is other places in scripture properly interpreted. And the word says out of the "heart" comes the issues for life, "Keep your heart with all vigilance, for from it flow the springs of life." Proverbs 4:23
Piers Morgan: "You want to prevent them from having the same rights."
The pastor should have called out that crap. That's totally unacceptable and bigoted of Piers Morgan to say.
Equal rights means you support same sex marriage
No it’s totally acceptable and not bigoted at all!
@@repelsteeltje2187 They’re humans and they deserve respect. I respect and love them but that doesn’t mean I have to agree with them.
@@hehe42344 if you don't agree then don't marry anyone of the same sex.
Disagreeing doesn't mean they don't deserve equal rights. That would be discrimination
My first memory I have was pushing my brother in a stroller. He was around one year old and I was around two or three. The first time I noticed a pretty girl I was around three to five yrs old, she was around 15 yrs old. My point, I find women attractive, but that doesn't mean I have a right to sleep around. Bad behavior is wrong no matter if you're straight or sexually confused.
What are you confused? You were three years old. A three year old can't feel sexual attraction.
@@ericbrophy5308 I know I did at 5 but it was so sporadic and innocent I didn't even know what it was.
I love Rick Warren and the way he explains this issue. When Jesus was on earth, He hung out with sinners. The reason sinners felt comfortable hanging out with Him was because He was not judgmental and He displayed His genuine love for them. He accepted them. That's is not to say that He accepted their sin. For many, they are unable to change their sinful behavior on their own. He befriended them and when they came to know Jesus and accept Him, He changed them. It did not take shaming or taking away their rights. He did not attack them for being sinners. He loved them into the kingdom without sacrificing truth. "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. And we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only Begotten of the Father, full of GRACE and TRUTH." If only His people would so behave among sinners that they can behold His glory through us and be drawn to Him. Too many Christians are only too anxious to proclaim truth to the exclusion of His marvelous grace. Unfortunately, before non Christians can learn anything about Jesus, they run into Christians who focus on their sin and don't make any effort to befriend them and enter into their sometimes messy lives. But Jesus went there, He got to know sinners and many of those sinners were transformed by their relationship with Him. Why don't we try that? Focus on extending grace to our fellow humans, while holding on to our beliefs based on the word of God. By the way, our beliefs do not require us to "protect the sanctity of marriage." Our beliefs DO require us to LOVE our neighbors in the way we would want everyone else to love us. Our beliefs DO require us to give everything we have in order benefit others because NOTHING in this world is important compared to eternity. Our beliefs DO require us to give to all who ask expecting nothing in return. Many of us are deep in the sin of covetousness and selfishness. We don't want to be inconvenienced or persecuted. But Jesus said, rejoice when you are persecuted because great will your reward be in heaven. Instead sometimes it seems that we are the ones persecuting others because they don't believe like us.
"Go and sin no more" seems like he expected repentance
@@sawyerahbiesadventuressaa4158 Which came first? The Grace or the Truth? Jesus is known for His great love. "Go and sin no more" has much more weight and impact coming from someone who has miraculously healed you or saved you from stoning. As I said originally, it's GRACE and TRUTH. It has to be BOTH.
@@tonettecarroll6103 Yeah but the problem is Christians today are not saying go and sin no more. Jesus didn't "hang out" with sinners. He went to them to preach the truth in love
Im not into blood cults, and christianity is the blood cult having over 2 billion deluded followers. Have you been washed in the blood(of the'lamb?') How revolting. Ycch. Do you eat his flesh and drink his blood at communion? Guess Jeffrey Dahmer wast so bad after all, hmmm.? What a sick cult. Carrying a cross with a corpse in it. WTF!!!
Hearing this Rick dude for the first time, nice response really.
Jesus is only Solution! God loves you!
He's quite smart. I like his teachings
@chalitphakorn phrommin It's time to put the bible aside and start using your brain. We are in the 21th century. Wake up.
You heard it here first: psychopaths are born that way so let all the serial killers out.
I wonder how in the judgement day Piers Morgan will say to Jesus, when Jesus ask him questions about his life on earth.
Robert Ward you sound insane and I hope you get help. That’s all I’m gonna say.
Robert Ward you sound obsessive and very very brainwashed. Hope some day you can break free of the poisonous hold of religion.
Robert Ward it’s wrong because it simply is. Nothing you’re saying is actually true. If you can’t prove that being gay is in any way bad WITHOUT using the Bible, you don’t have any actual evidence. But I can tell you’re extremely brainwashed and nothing I say will change your mind so I’m not interested in continuing this conversation.
Piefs is a shitty human but hes morally superior in this debate.
@Robert Ward you sound like the person everyone tries to not invite to the party
This is a clear example of a week pastor for the Bible said many a call but she was chosen tell the truth and say for God I live for God I die we live by the word of God
Many are called but few are choosen.
Homosexuality does not come from above period. God does not make or cause anyone to be homosexual, then condemn
them for being that way. There is no scripture that supports that people are born gay. However there are scriptures that clearly condemn this activity. God loves all of us and I believe that He can deliver anyone from this lifestyle if they truly want to be. Salvation is a breath away! Ask Christ to be your Lord and Savior, repent of all your sins, and ask God to help you each day to overcome all matter of sin. He will help you, but you must reach out to Him. This goes for any kind of sin we have in our lives.
I have one word to sum up my feelings on everything you wrote. "Bullshit." :)
Jeremiah Gibson God loves you Jeremiah, and I will pray for you. The word of God says, "ask and you'll receive",
"knock and the door will open". What are you waiting for?
Geneva Colmer :) I've already done everything you've just writen. However, I still find your comments regarding homosexuality total bs. I personally believe that God not only loves gay people, but loves the fact that they're gay. We already have enough staight people in the earth to continue the race and further grow the population, so, so what if there's a few gay people around... What is it to us really?
Man always leans on his carnal vain understanding instead of the truth of God's Living Word unto Life Eternally.
you are born gay you are not born religious
+Paul Brown Haha you're insane.
+Dustin Who? how so religion is a choice if so were all born atheists
+Paul Brown totally agree Paul. Religion is preached by men, from a book written by men, to control those with weak personalities with fables, myths & scary stories.....seriously they've been conned. The biggest fraud in history & these idiots are still buying into it. Don't they have Google & the ability to think/question for themselves? Hilarious.
If Rick Warren read the Hebrew & Aramaic Bible; then he would have realized that Scholars have made mistakes in their Translations & even lied in their translations b/c of their hatred for LGBT people, or possibly from self-loathing. - People, the Bible has been changed to forbid homosexuality. The original Aramaic text of 1 Cor. 6:9 actually says that the "corrupted (depraved) ones" and "those who rape men (a man)" won't inherit the kingdom of God. Romans Chapter one is referring to idolators. Both the men & women left the natural use of each other. That could mean celibacy or bestiality based on the previous verses. The Aramaic text doesn't say that the men were sleeping with each other afterwards. The text says "male AGAINST male." Those words suggest violence more than sexual activity. - The Hebrew word Qedeshim means "male prostitutes" NOT "sodomites." The destruction of Sedom & Gamorah was because of arrogance, violence & mistreatment of strangers, etc. Lev. 18:22 actually says: "you shall not lie with a male on the bed of a woman (wife), it is an abhorrence." Visit the website m.homosexualeunuchsandthebible.com for a more thorough analysis & proofs.
*"If you could "convince yourself" that people are born gay, then you might see it differently."*
EXACTLY! Abandon all rationality and you too can be decived! 😂😂😂
Homosexual couples cannot reproduce their own kind.
Abra Kadabra how does that make it wrong? plenty of straight couples can’t have kids
@@thedumpsterbehindachilis7763 why do you call them straight couples? Husbands and wives who are able to, can reproduce their own kind, same sex couples cannot reproduce anything.
@Mason Moore I don't abandon children abadon, I help place children with different sex couples, I will not place children with same sex couples, ever. Same sex couples want equal rights, let them produce their own kind then. That's fair.
@Mason Moore you are correct.
God didn't write anything, except the 10 commandments with his finger, ....... God didn't write the words in the Bible, he inspired the writers to do that. That's why it's called the inspired word of GOD by GOD himself through the writers.
But you already know that.
Has he interviewed muslims on this topic?
No no a million times..
U want to know y.. He is afraid of been called islamphobia
Well Muslims will always be against lgbt. The reason those lefts supports Muslims because the right hates them and the left wants Muslim votes too nigward
He's talked to a Muslim on Good Morning Britain about gay education if that counts.
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@Ersin Emre Hey dude I'm a christian and I know there is a big difference between the christians and muslims. You said you were muslim right? If so you should have taken time before writing that comment, to investigate what do christians believe because it is not just religions that are the same but are painted different. It is like a story that passes from generations which at some point in time the story is changed or modified just like religions.
I do not discriminate because as it says in the bible we are equal and we should love everyone as he love us, and to finish we do not have the right to punish nor judge because we are not just nor everyone.
@@ersinemre877 Just so you know I'm not trying to go against you
Proverbs 18:22
He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the LORD
I can't believe that the SBC is attacking Rick Warren after that. That was the best Christian talk about homosexuality without preaching fire and brimstone that I have ever seen.
He is at least a decent pastor! ☺️ I’m gay and open and proud 🏳️🌈 I see a man who genuinely does not judge someone’s character and genuinely leaves it too god. Though his opinions may not agree with others, he knows that accepting all is key 🔑
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@@brandonwhite2231 That's what you believe,y point is that we shpuld not force our beliefs on others. Where does the bible say that homosexuality is a choice?every human is created in gods image,
What if homosexuality is just something used as a population control and created by god to answer those prayers of people suffering famine and drought? We cant have children, and our world is way too over populated.
@@hensonpedroleon7787 My point was that you should not treat someone with disrespect, simply because they do not see eye to eye with me. It is my choice to go to hell and not yours, and in the end it will not affect whether or not you can go to heaven. God looks at the individual person when judgement comes. So why bother a community that you do not associate with, when you know it leaves no point?
@@bluuryan Oh absolutely! However what you consider to be bothering, is actually called "witnessing" my friend and Christ told us that we ought to do just that even if it means ruffling a few feathers so be it
That's the entire point of the gospel so that we could see how sinful we are when exposed to the light and accept Jesus into our hearts
And there are many reasons why we should "bother" this community because may of those who associate themselves with this community are confused and I say that respectfully. They are genuinely confused as it relates to sexuality and many have admitted that they are looking for a sense of belonging and identity and that's quite okay; not knowing your identity right away is okay, that's why when we witness we show fallen man that those identity is in Jesus
Many people have been rescued from themselves and an unknown identity through witnessing a d many more are yet to still be rescued and we will continue witnessing until everyone has been given an opportunity to either accept Jesus and that includes you my friend so please...do no be okay knowing that you are on your way to hell there is still hope
I see that your heart is in the right place and the good intentions is appreciated. However we cannot just base our life on a story written by humans just like us. Even the most holy of people recognize that the Bible is to be interpreted and not taken literally.
All humans make mistakes and the fear is that the bible was not written from gods words but of those who wrote the bible.
Back then anyone could come up with a story and people would believe them because like us they were confused about life; they saught for a reason/truth behind our exsistence.
If i had a time machine and went back in time before the bible was created and I created a story about human exsistence; I am sure if i convinced enough people, it would become one of the worlds largest religions.
That being said what you call "witnessing" I should be allowed to do to the Christian community because I believe what you read is not being interpreted correctly.
No one should be told that what they do may take them to hell.
In perspective, what if those who wrote the bible were selfish and they wrote the bible in their thoughts to drive people from the real truth so they could have Paradise to themselves.
My point being that I do not insert my beliefs into anyone's way of thinking unless asked for my opinion. The same should be for anyone. I will never walk into a church and say that anyone is going to hell for having a belief
Very well said. Not because I have a feeling I have to act on it.
Thank you Luis Ramirez! God bless you for quoting truth, & standing up for our Jesus! :) Fight the good fight!
Religion shouldn't be in politics.
wow he handled that very well
The Book of Romans chapter 1 verse 26 thru 32 has all the answers anyone needs to know. God loves the person , and His love , mercy and forgiveness and Truth makes us free when we choose Him.
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When God created man kind he created Adam and Eve not Adam and steve
God created Samson and Delilah...not Samson and Goliath
Amen!
When God created mankind, he created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
Wait wait wait wait wait.
God did create Adam and Eve
God did create Steve.
God created all of us.
God did not unite Adam and Steve in marriage.
God did not unite Eve and Delilah in marriage.
God brought Adam and Eve in marriage.
Adam is a representative of jesus being married to the church ...Eve.
The Bible gives moral direction to live your life to be able to enter the kingdom of heaven. Sin is sin no matter what the laws of the land says. It always seems like Christians are attacked because of their views on same sex relationships and marriage. Why aren't these same questions and comments asked to Muslims and see what their answers are? The Dalai Lama talks about how homosexuality is misconduct in the Buddhist religion. The list can go on and on. The attack on Christianity is so blatant that it's discusting. The hypocritical media spotlights Christians but doesn't ever engage in any interviews with any other religions or religious leaders except Christians. It just shows how biased and hypocritical the public and media is when dealing with the Christian community.
No, sin is the transgression of the law. There is no law against homosexuality in the Bible. So clearly your moral direction isn't taken from the Bible, but from a sect of Christianity that largely founded America, called Puritanism. You are simply following a long line of old wives tales and doctrines of the devil. Regardless of Puritan rewrites, I'm pretty sure they still have it written that Jesus had a male beloved disciple, and that David and Jonathan made a vow of love to each other 3 times over again, because they loved each other as one soul. I don't know about Buddhist religion, but I know for a fact that the Islamic Quran doesn't condemn homosexuality in it either, and that is part of the Abrahamic religion. Their hadiths condemn homosexuality, but that is like someone writing their own scripture and claiming it was God's word, kind of like the Puritans twisting words, phrases and even definitions to make it appear like "homosexuality" was condemned.
Love Rick Warren, great dude. Love the ending of this so much. People allow disagreements to keep them separate, as opposed to coming to an understanding of the opposition's stance. Nothing wrong with disagreeing.
Rick Warren answered that question just like a politician would have
What's the point of bringing someone on to interview them if you just interrupt them and not let them voice their opinion?
If someone robs a bank, can they claim that they are born thieves or born with this disposition as an excuse? Hope Piers Morgan answer that
You're a fool
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Morgan, same argument has been made about pedophiles
Here's the difference. Punching someone in the face. Cheating on your wife. All things that severely injure another human being. Adultery being one of the ten commandments. According to Rick Warren, having homosexual feelings is not a sin, and only when you act on those feelings does it become a sin. What do homosexual relationships harm? Nothing. Since nothing and no one is harmed, I'm really not grasping why exactly this "sin" is a sin.
Because the buybull is the one true word of gawd doe
Geneva Colmer No no no marriage in Jesus' time was a contract wherein a daughter was given to a man more like an object, something to seal the deal. It had a LOT to do with money and property and NOTHING to do with love. He took her as property and could have taken other wives too and many men did! So, please...just no...the concept of marriage has changed a lot over time and will continue to change.
Geneva Colmer That's your interpretation. But since your religion isn't the only one, you don't have a monopoly on what is or isn't marriage, especially not in a secular nation.
Just for clarification, sin in the Bible is not defines as harming another (though many sins involve harming others). Sin is a wrong against God.
So according to him if your a man and are only sexually attracted to other men you should just ignore that pesky feeling you’re whole life and go ahead and get married and have kids with a women you’re not attracted to, and live a lie just so strangers and onlookers can feel more comfortable with you? Lol.... great advice 👍
Duke Banerjee Pretty sure his authority was gay. Mortals were given females to procreate. God, angels, and Jesus were all males. Angels got in trouble for procreating with females. Jesus never had a female companion, but he had many male companions. Jesus and Paul wouldn’t have accepted, taught, or behaved in such a manner if they were “pesky feelings”.
Should we always act upon what we feel???
@@Sam-fq5qu We aren't talking about any old "feeling". This is regarding who someone should be with. The connection one has that tells you that you want to be with this person for the rest of your life, isn't something that warrants a "should we always act upon it". If the feeling is mutual, why wouldn't you act upon it?
Why are you asking about gay marriage to a pastor? The answers are in the bible. Men make laws about anything, even laws about gay marriages. Laws of men is just that, laws made by men and it changes as norms change....God's law is never changing.
Nice to hear from a real Christian. Thank you.
his arguments are horrible. equating gay marriage with punching someone in the nose? are you serious?
@@JoefromNJ1 nah he valid
@@JoefromNJ1 it’s just as bad because it is a sin in the Bible just like lying and acting out of anger
God will be the final arbiter. Anyone else is clueless.
science isnt clueless. You are.
@roger johnson so its wrong to be intelligent?
Sugar pastors. that’s what they are call just sugar pastors, when they don’t want to tell the TRUTH. They just talk about love, love but they don’t know the definition of human love neither God’s love. The Scriptures says; “I HATE” and “GOD HATE THE SIN AND THE SINNER!” THATS IT Rick.
We all come near God as sinners and are loved because we are sinners...
That's God's love
God bless you
God hates sin but loves the sinner.
The anchor wants to know that being gay is being born naturally. But whether we believe it or not, we know no one IS born gay. Many gay persons had negative issues somewhere along in their growing years that made think unnaturally of their gender. What is needed here is that a person who assumed a gay personality is to face their past and rise above it.
You are messed up in the head. Homosexuals don't think unnaturally of their gender, and they are perfectly fine with the sex they were born as. And homosexuals aren't born from a "negative issue".
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew ...... He is an perfect example on what Jesus was teaching about.
I have crippling depression
Why you just simply said what Paul taught in the bible ? Sin is sin . Fear God . Not please men .
@Ryan Fear sinning infront of God is a better way to put it, He created you did He not? He has power over everyone.
Steve Roberts please elaborate, give me a solid explanation as to why Paul doesn’t condemn it...
no one and i repeat no one is born gay.......they tend to have an imbalance in their system....it takes time and training to adjust to the true identity of thyself, its like learning how to speak, write and apply knowledge,, we all have different ways of adapting.....those who have fallen...i ask God for his Mercies upon you but for those being pushed to accepting...please analyze yourselves well....and ask for God's intervention...for we are doomed by our own making..do make a doom for yourself
Amen! I agree no one is born gay! It's an abomination to God! Praying for this world!
Jesus said to Nicodemous marvel not when I tell you you must be born again!
Rick Warren it's a false Christian and a lot of Calvary Chapel pastors call him friend
Are you a Christian?
@@geraldpchuagmailprobably not
@@soph663 now I understand.
+David Velazquez
--That'd be FEW Calvary Pastors, add the difference between Calvary CHAPELS and Calvary CHURCHES as they are two different things.. If you call yourself a Christian, and you say this with no facts, as you have NO names of such Pastors... making that gossip which is also sin. Rick Warren, however, is one who the Bible says Christians are to, Mark and avoid. He is a false teacher, he supports sin (and plenty of it). he thinks after what God has made CRYSTAL clear that it is okay to be kissing up to the Pope and encourages others to do so, and he is also working for the One World Church - THAT is clear as glass. Mark and avoid him, do NOT participate in his EVIL! (2 John 9-11)
He failed to answer it biblically.. In the beginning God created woman for man period! God is perfect in design and made them "fit together" perfectly and that they should multiple. The innocent perfect and beautiful relationship that the Lord designed.
I dont need to point out that same sex relationships can't multiple. And then there's the scripture 1corinthians 6:9 where it's clear that the Lord is saying homosexuality and sodomites will not inherit the kingdom of God. But neither will liars, thieves murders...etc. It's all sin. Not one worse than the other. Just one sin will keep you out! This is another thought... God doesn't mention that handicapped or mentally ill or physically sick people go to hell.. He didn't mention those condition being a sin. And there are proven test studies where they know their not born that way. but homosexuality is a sin. And it defiles our bodies which is His, He designed and created it. God is always Right. God is righteous He is holy & merciful and gracious and He always🙌 forgives.❤️🌱🌸
so? Your belief isn't fact so why should it affect others rights. I believe your religion is wrong and that jesus was just a guy who knew a few cool party tricks but that doesn't mean i think you shouldn't be able to practice it. If two gays want to get married, let them. It doesn't affect you.
If you raise a Gay child or grow up with a Gay brother, then you know they are born Gay.
It’s about decisions!!
Yuh get into ittyt
Exactly it is about decisions
John 8:34-36
[34]Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
[35]And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
[36]If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. ❤️☝️😇
Alcoholism and addiction run in my family...I have fought my desires my entire life. It has been a long and painful process, but thankfully I was able to break the cycle. I guess that was foolish, I should have just given in since I was born this way....right? And if your response is to say "being gay isn't hurting anyone else", tell that to all the little boys who's lives have been ruined by homosexual predators. And for all the atheists out there who think anyone who believes in a higher power is just some ignorant uneducated fool - I would beg to differ - isn't it more foolish to believe that the complex universe we live in was created by NOTHING...What are the odds of a dismantled 747 in a field getting picked up by a swift wind and landing on the ground perfectly assembled? Do you believe that could happen? Well A 747 is like a TINKERTOY compared to one human eyeball (Wayne Dyer) (and think of all the eyeballs of every different creature in the world)...yeah that seems rationale to me. And for those who accuse Rick Warren of being a hate monger - that is utterly ridiculous - what does that make you? He has done more good than the average person could ever accomplish in a lifetime.
So says the society fuckup!
you can't be this ignorant...Being gay didn't hurt those little boys, being sexual predator hurt the little boys - which occurs far far more in the straight peoples world. Don't you see enough girls being raped and molested by straight men on the news?! Sexual predators exists in all genders and sexual orientations as long as they are human filled with hormones, you idiot. How can you seriously compare your alcoholism with someones sexuality?! EVERYONE has a sexual orientation, NOT EVERYONE has drug addiction. You don't get to pick who you're attracted to but you get to pick from the choice of your alcoholic beverage or choice of drugs. I dont even know where to begin with you because the level of your ignorance is too great.
Becky Rose straight men grooming young girls, female straight women joining a paedophile ring, sexual abuse coming from straight people... so being straight hurt all those little boys and little girls. Don't be such a uneducated illogical fool.
No one is born gay, we all have something we struggle with, eg. drugs, alcohol, an eating disorder, or sexual sins. God did not create that in us, He gave us free will, so our behavior is our choice. FYI God ordained marriage to be between one man and one woman! Remember Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.🤨
Lmao ... Free will up until God told ya ... To fuck a man and not a woman then ?
😂😂😂😂😂
I like the way he answere the question..
Preach it Pastor..
we must stand the truth specially this Wicked Generation..
fuck off homophobe
The Bible has many scriptures referencing homosexuality as wrong, against God, as sin, hated by God & punishable by God. When we start accepting lies, we stop recognizing the truth. God said, "Neither Adulterers, Fornicators, Homosexuals, liars, thieves, gossipers, murderers, blasphemers, revilers, or idol worshipers will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. God set down laws, teachings & judgments depicting what was allowed & forbidden. Man was told to 'choose' whom he would serve between good or evil. Sin is not OF God, but sin is OF evil; evil will not be allowed in eternal Heaven. God put his laws into every man's heart, therefore, everyone born 'knows' good from evil, sinners only pretend they don't. Christ's entire purpose was to remove man's sin nature & teach him to stop living the lies of the world by thinking, speaking, & doing the things AS they are in Hell, but think, speak & act AS it is in Heaven. When man rejects God & his teachings, he's 'choosing' to embrace the forbidden evils of the world. It's impossible for God to create a man AS an abomination, attach an unforgiveable sin, then not allow him into Heaven. Impossible! Man is not "born hated by God". Man "chooses" to think, speak, & act as sins hated & forbidden by God. This is God's world with God's rules. The laws of Heaven will never accept sin, nor give equality to sinners as he does for the righteous. Any Bible student knows that Rick is a false prophet.
rick warren talk straight tell the world we are not born gay
yes we are!
@@artsci2716 shut up lucifer on the way to the pit of destruction
No! You shut up right wing lying idiot!@@coolkk2
Trump is the devil you haters on the right!@@coolkk2
Rehana is satan for supporting Trump!
We are to love one another. Love your neighbor as you love yourselves.
If someone was driving on a road that turned into a dead end off a cliff would you not want to warn that person? With LOVE.?
We are to judge righteously . meaning what would Jesus say.
Amen!
Praying for you 🙏🏼 hope you can stop being homophobic
this pastor is absolutely right...it is not right to act on something just because we have feelings towards it, everyone have certain feelings that they have to control..
It is right to act upon it if no one gets hurt.
@@Nonalhomophobie
If no one gets hurt.
That's the catch.
@@eyemnew2991 And in that case no one gets hurt.
@@Nonalhomophobie
Apparently someone does get hurt if you say
no one gets hurt.
Somebody always gets hurt.
@@eyemnew2991 Not in gay relationships more than in heterosexual ones.
I think the real problem or question here is, why is it so important that this clown have morally sound people sway over into what he considers “normal” or “with the times”?
The foundational answers are always found in one place, the bible, and this particular answer is in Genesis 2:24
lol who tf cares what some book says... what do you mean by 'Genesis 2:24'? lol whys there so many religious nuts on the Internet who spew religious nonsense... god is gay, i fuck him in the ass every day, and he enjoys it
@@KatharineRosio it is nonsense, i would rather you not prey for me
Piers is not a spiritual person, but more of a PROUD parrot. 1 Co 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. PS. I do not like the theology of mr. Warren either.
I couldn't even finish his first book!
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If you read the word of God, He is very clear when it comes to both sexuality and marriage. Let God be true and every man a liar.
Lois Debrobander
Okay....
Now that you've quoted scripture, explain it.
The Bible says man and woman that's it this is what is wrong with the world today
The bible is a piece of paper that people think was written by sky daddy and use that to treat people like shit because they're homophobic
I think if anyone studied the Scriptures they would know what it says about homosexual behavior. Rick Warren is skating the issue, he know what God has said about it. If you don't know I will tell you. God hates it! Its an abomination against Him, which mean its is disgusting to Him. (Lev.20:13). If you would read Romans Chapter one it will tell you why people practice this kind of life style. I hope I have been a help to you!
Bingo.
foreverinchrist1 True indeed..
i don’t have a problem with religion (in fact, i’d consider myself christian) but i can say with 100% confidence that the old testament is mostly old rhetoric that should have no relevance in modern society
brian bowes how does that prove anything you didn’t even respond to my point
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foreverinchrist1 -- I normally don't answer posts that are 5 years old, but NO, that is no help to anyone. Jesus commands to tell the truth in LOVE.. Beginning with the Cross... not telling people who DO NOT even believe to read Scriptures they'll not understand because they do not have the Holy Spirit to discern them. You also don't recommend Leviticus when Romans 1 is clearer and does NOT have a death penalty..and was for the Levitical Jews. People who say they are Christians, and cannot give the Gospel and THEN speak about the problem in love need more studying of God's word and to PRAY that you have the Holy Spirit.. HE leads to ALL truth.. Sorry, you should know better IF you are indeed TRULY born again. I'm ONLY telling you the truth, as commanded.
Wish it would've been John Macarthur in the interview instead of rick warren.....smh!!!!
rick warren doing a good job.
Ur just being dumb.
Answer the question, Rick.
HE CANT JUST LIKE JOEL OSTEEN!!! THEIR COWARD PREACHERS WHO ARE TOO RICH AND FAMOUS TO TELL THE TRUTH!! THEY WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR NOT SPEAKING THE COMPLETE TRUTH!! WE NEED TO PRAY FOR THESE MEN AND PIERS! :)
@@CrysDawn The list of false teachers is long. We must be very careful who we listen too.
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Everything that is against God is a sin, but repentance can change a person's life.
This pastor is confused, how could he think there might be a gay gene? The God I serve is a perfect God and never makes mistakes. People make choices.
he never said there was
Why did they delete half of Rick's explanation? Show the whole thing so everyone understand
Being gay is experiential and socialized....when it is socially reinforced, and call sanity bigoted, you are normalizing insanity...
Sean Chaney I know this was a year ago but you can’t go around saying this, being gay was classified as a literal mental illness until 1974 in the US. And it just isn’t. We’re fine, we just need you to stop questioning our fucking existence. This is the reason kids kill themselves. Because of your mentality.
Because Piers everybody has a right to a normal life. A known father and mother. Gay parents take that away from the very start. That's the point.
Exactly bro. You said it spot on. Perfectly said 👍🏻
So what you're saying is parents who are widowed or the spouse has abandoned them for whatever reason should give their children away since there's no "father and mother" in that household. You people are fucking stupid