NERF THIS WITH FIRE 🔥 Playing Clefable In A 5 Stack
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- Clefable is such a crazy good supporter right now. I played follow me in this match because the enemy team didn’t really have much I wanted to use gravity on. Enjoy Clefable in a 5 stack vs 5 stack game! Yeehaw Become a channel member today!:
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I’m shocked to see some argue against Clefable nerfs in the comments. Who would you nerf instead?
The sword doggo and maybe Buzzy boy. Superpower is a really strong build and maybe a bit too much.
Glaceon. Icicle spear needs a nerf
I wonder what rank these people are. I’m sure they’re so incredibly high and aren’t complaining about Goodra.
Umbreon anyday... Is so annoying to play VS umbreon cleffa and decidueye blastoise and whatever u feel is broken as the final spot like crustle for example.. U CAN'T go near them and the problem is not cleffa but the damage from crustle and umbreon just uses the curse mové whatever his name is to make 100% shots from the owl hit
@@RedL1keRoses7don't fight against the Goodras, try to ignore it
Don’t mind the 200k dmg the decidueye did
Just another day in pkmn unite for your local deci.
Decidueye is broken in coordinated play. If you can't dive that thing it's just gonna melt your whole team from off screen.
As a clefable main I don’t like the amount of attention it’s gaining (please don’t nerf 😭)
this tbh, and buzzwole
Yea fr been my one of my go to supports for a long time 😢
Same lol. We’ve know this for many many seasons under the radar
Clefable is most likely the best support in solo queue but I think the best support in a 5 stack will always be Hoopa because the ability to instantly heal your entire team to full hp every 12 seconds just seems too good
It’s crazy to say but clefable is actually a better pick then hoopa depending on what your enemy team runs clefable is extremely well rounded unlike hoopa who’s longer cd and gimmick are better for a tanker team comp clef has cc and a shield with follow me and gravity shuts down so many high value picks it’s insane water bear,luca,zoroark,blast can be shut down a lot 65 percent of the cast uses dash moves
Clefable is still better. Your team doesn’t have to waste the time basing to heal. Stacked it’s full heal in seconds.
nah spragles you’re making clefable seem like the devil when this game has been attacker/defender unite for so long :’) supporters ain’t the problem here
I was going up against Moonlight Follow Me Clefable the other day as Rapid Spin Blastoise thinking I can counter this. Turns out, Follow Me stops your Water Spout mid Rapid Spin because they gave Blastoise “Hinderance Resistance”
One of the most cruelest torture methods known to man - Zacian and Clefable duo lane
With a Comfey on the Zacian too for a worse time
@@Knockoff_Zacian the #1 is zacian and comfey with an early leafeon gank
Or Zacian/Hoopa, or Zacian/Umbreon, or Zacian/Comfey, or Zacian/Lapras, or Zacian/Mime...hmm but Clef is the issue apparently...
She doesn’t need a nerf, you just got a good team
Can we talk about the fact that Buzzwhole dunked the whole Regieleki into the goal 🤣
Moonlight+ heals way more than it needs in this meta. However, it's cool that Clafable is doing work
keep nerfing support is why y'all have 5 attacker teams lol dont complain then
This is what I'm seeing to It's hard to support pokemon that have tissue paper health
Why would we nerf clefable... it is so rare to even see people play it well.
Literally the highest pick rate the past week. I don't think I went two games without seeing at least one.
@@nicolomanfrini8671only recently. As a Clef main for many seasons you never saw it. Most slept on Mon in the game. Clef mains have known its power for a long time but we were only a few playing it.
@@spinningnovagaming I agree, I think it's been busted since release. I think it's been held back by a combination of competition from other very powerful supports, auto attackers metas which aren't too friendly to it, and the fact that (this might be an opinion but I think it's a pretty widespread one) it's boring to play.
If you get good enough to anticipate the enemy moves and trap them in gravity right as they jump in it isn’t boring to play. But that takes a lot of experience and vigilance in constantly knowing where your team and enemy is positioned to play at that level.
@@spinningnovagaming don't get me wrong I don't necessarily think it's easy, I'm not a support player so I wouldn't know. But I've tried it and I hate how much it feels like a heal bot.
Lol hard disagree, it's not broken, people just don't understand target prioritization. Kill the Clefable -> no more heals -> kill the rest of the team
Follow Me should get a buff and do some damage imo
Follow me has always had a much higher winrate than gravity. It makes clef impossible to kill.
@@rodrigovelasquez9854 Yeah it just feels a bit useless to just be able to Auto Attack
this. literally any game that has healers people know to stack anti heal and healers die first. healers are supposed to be strong, they are top kill target.
@@thebeatles9 Thanks, only sane person on here
Gravity is the dumbest move in the game counters dashes and almost every pokemon has some sort of dash
Everything in the game needs a counter. When your enemy team is dashing around clef is there to help
Me watching clefable on the enemy team play gravity (I’m playing Scizor and I know I’m gonna be useless in fights)
@@jasonnordine8839 Because Scizor and Mamo are such oppressive threats to the balance of the game that they deserve to lose the ability to play.
Also, by this logic, you should hate Clefable, because it stops some counters from working (Dragapult v. Mimikyu), but Gravity lacks a hard counter
Gravity is so stupid
It would be ok if we had pick and ban but we don’t so now you are just skrewed with certain pokemon.
Why is everyone telling to Nerf my little Fairy😭. She is perfect.
The last couple of videos spragels showcase supporters and defenders with the language that they need to be nerf🤔. Agenda? Definitely but why?
He makes a lot of mistakes
i like this game BECAUSE healers are impactful. it's so rare nowadays to find a game where a pure healer is needed or valued.
I am confused. Why is Clef getting all this attention now? Hasn't it been in this current state for a while?
This is exactly why I’m confused too lol
I’ve noticed it got more attention after the blissey nerfs, Really thinking if Clef gets nerfed then Wiggly’s gonna be the next one they’ll harp on
Probably because other top supports like comfey and elde got nerfed and now its the most picked pokemon?
Even then, those are not particularly recent nerfs, with Blissey being the most recent, right? As far as I am aware, Cleffable has not been messed with too terribly much. One or two buffs since launch and some bug fixes, if memory serves.
Or... perhaps this was just a clickbaity video like he was discussing with Cris during casting yesterday. I mean, of course a support is gonna do well in a competent (pretty sure pro-level) five-stack team...
Clefable has been broken since release, the reason why it hasn't seen a lot of play is a combination of the attacker meta kinda making gravity useless and just how boring it is to play.
Its notbroken at all. in fact its healing still cant keep up with the auto attack crit damage of attackers right now.
Maybe the tiniest of nerfs but in solo que it isn't that good. The game you showcased you could of been scorbunny the whole match and won.
Clifary may be best healer right now, but when my team dont have support, my favorite support is Mean Look + Wish Umbreon.
Its diferent heal, as its single target and one big burst (over all not that good, but in the lane is great), and with stacking can heal over 30% of attacker/speedter HP. Its Mean Look can shot down so many pokemon similar to Gravity. Its so satyafing when you cage elussive speedster and your team demolish him, or you rescue your teammate from enemy pursuit. And can soak so much damage.
Mean look/wish Umbreon is my favorite “support” mon 😍
I don't think it needs to be nerfed but maybe a cooldown one to gravity with a buff to the size. Follow me gets you in range your teammates running from being healed and gravity helps your team not get runover by Zoroark. But the whole time you are a sitting duck if your enemy just waits for gravity to finish. Plus, the unite move is awful cause you never know what is coming. If you can't heal or defend your team the mon is useless. I'd like a mon with healing and cooldown reduction for the team like coaching. Thanks for the stream yesterday. I like the Cris Jake duo.
It’s been like this for a long time
It’s difficult to understand suddenly how it’s a broken mon?
Ikr. I think it might be that people are learning that you have to stack with it to get the insane heals.
@rodrigovelasquez9854 people finally understand that support healing with stacking is better than just exp share.. 3 item slot and finally they get to use two of them EFFICIENTLY
Clef being able to put up 150k healing period is a problem. Especially in later stages of the game it feels like Clef just allows everything in its circle to be healed to almost full. I think nerfing the sp atk scaling of moonlight and up time on gravity would actually make the clef feel “fair” whatever that means
Leave my clefable alone😢 I'll help protect your dodrio😅
I got clefable and I loved to see urshifu and zoroark full of confidence trying to chase me and having their dash moves being frustrated by her abilities 😂
I just had a 9 stack win streak with my 5 stack, i mained clebefale. Its too good
Moonlight Clef is the way to go. Gravity is insane if the enemies have a lot of dash moves.
Facts. Blissy is till broken
Yeah, the enemy team didn’t have much dash here but if they did, gravity is broken
I've seen blissey heal just as much as clefable!
I disagree. I love clefable. I solo que and when I'm stuck with 3 attackers and a speedster clefable is my only hope of winning the game. She is counterable in my opinion by teams working together. I agree gravity could be changed/nerfed, but please timi don't touch the healing.
If you nerf Clefable, I promise you it will end up exactly like Liquidation Inteleon after people complained about it. Horrible. Lol
Does Clef feel broken when under constant curse? No. Teams just need to have two curse users on a team. But nerf healers while curse items exist? They can become so useless so fast, especially Clef with no damage capabilities.
To be fair I feel like all supporters heal way too much when played at least competently, but they're all broken in different ways. The most outrageous thing about clefable is gravity. Elldegoss has no right doing as much damage as it does while healing and shielding. Blissey shouldn't be that tanky and the healing scaling should be changed so it can't keep up with it's healing even from three or four levels behind, and so on.
It is the moonlight+ for me, as huge range and massive healing to all the team which you are usually in big fights close together at that time, very, very VERY powerful mon
Idk why you would want to nerf ANY support. It's already the least played class in the game. We need more people playing support
It’s the highest picked pokemon in the game right now
I feel like Clefable is a life support Pokemon
I’m honestly fine with supporters being busted; until we get more added to the roster and people actually play them more often in SoloQ the supporters need some extra support
lol I’ve been saying that for so many seasons. No one heals like a stacking Clef. Not even close. Average 135-150k heal in solo duo. Many 190-200k games. But I was happy when it was undervalued and I was the only one picking it. 😂 been running Clef Zach lane for like 4 seasons in duo running people out of bottom lane. It’s by far the best support in the game if played correctly. Must stack. It made me cringe when you said never stack a support tier list after tier list. But support mains know what’s up with that role. Most undervalued position.
What I wanna know is how tf you get all these great emblems and I get blue and purple 😢
If Clefable isn't the best then I feel like it has to be Comfey or Hoopa.
Moonlight and Follow Me needs a nerf and Draining Kiss needs a buff.
They could do something with that build for sure
Clefable is good in a 5 stack. But playing clef feels awful in solo q. Blissey has better single target heals and yiu can just follow the carry around.
I dont want my main nerffed but i do feel its healing is a bit too much😅
Yess clefable is my fav. I just hit 216k heals last week
This was bullying on a whole different level😂
clefable is just an annoying healing turret
Mr mime was always my favorite supporter his gimmicks were always nesscary and overpowered
Pitchforks out for Clef now? 2024 is off to a wild start.
Grab a pitchfork, and come join the mob
You don't understand the gravity of the situation. But the Moonlight will be your guide. So follow me to a brighter future with clefable not being nerfed. It's a supporter. Not a broken speedster or attacker!
@@spragels Aye, aye sir
Whats the website you use to look up builds and compare them I seen you pull it up on stream before but I forgot to ask
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Does rescue hood boost the shielding from magic guard? Since it's based on the healing you provide to your teammates.
Elde is more broken for solo
Oh yeah 5 stacking with a lane partner as ZACIAN.. oh sure clefable is the most broken thing.
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Now they deserve this loss !!
Shhhhhhh.. This wont be nerfed once the draft starts u just pick the curse items gg
Clefable and Comfey are disgusting broken, they need to nerf both asap 🙃
I play clefable. Need good team to play with coz random teammates are so trash they don't even know how moonlight works.. anyone up?
I find myself struggling to use clefable. I dont know why. I still do better with blissey and hoopa
Its funny in pokemonunite the most broken pokemon are always the support lmao
What does follow me do ?
Are you for real? Nerf all of huper attacker, that kills anyone with no problems at all. Nerf Goodra and Crustle that can have 120k damage.
I’m absolutely for real. This thing is broken.
Mf is crying about Goodra/Crustle. You can tell how low of a rank this dude is considering his main issues are literally skill check Pokémon.
LMAFO crying about Crustle and goodra on nah
@@RedL1keRoses7 ,we can fight together and I show you how broken is this thing
I just hate Goodra 😢
Blissy.
Here I was thinking clefable needed defense buff
It's broken
Clefable needs a defense _nerf_ . If it at least dies quickly once it gets caught, that would at least be slightly balanced, and better than what we have now
@@Druid-T It already dies quickly though.
Which version of Jake is spewing this clefable propaganda!
Is there any stream today?
I think hoopa is the best supporter but clef is barely behind
As a zoroark main I hate clefable with a passion
Relatable
Gravity takes away all of your moves
I hate it too, but No gravity is gonna stop my dragon dance Dragapult from popping off
Oh, I’m sure it’s a nightmare for you
@@XParasiteOctoling lmao
Hoopa is a better supporter if your team has a brain, but because they seldom do I guess clef wins by handicap
there's nothing wrong, just need more antiheal items like in every other MOBA.
we have 2 of them
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spragels ngl this pokemon really needs a nerf bro has been mass healing too much and has like too much buffed damage while being a supporter and in every tournaments this pokemon is spotlight just because of its broken healing ability
Buff draining kiss so it heals you and ally, nerf moonlight healing, nerf gravity and follow me cooldown, I’d love a metronome buff lol perhaps make it have the lowest cool-down unite that isn’t blaziken or dragapult.
So you want it dead basically, those nerfs would make Clef unusable like it was before.
I was a clefable main for the longest time. but now that I see clefable more frequently, it needs a nerf
All healing needs nerfed heavy I keep telling people mons like wiggly and and mime are way better supports but because healing is extremely broken really not running a healer and seeing one on the enemy team is a nightmare only elde takes a bit of skill but not much the click and heal for 200k a game is so cringe
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Jake, fof the love of god why are you leading this propaganda?
Clefable is only effective on a team. ONLY. EFFECTIVE. ON. A TEAM. Only a properly organised team can ACTUALLY take Clef and use it to its maximum capabilities.
Solo q is literally the worst way to play Clefable, if anything by Unite player's logic we should be complaining about Elde, it heals too much, its splashable on every team and it has a knock up that stops you from playing the game
He's literally live in his own world.
This isn’t true at all. It’s win rate is high in teams or without teams. It’s one of the highest pick rates in the game also regardless of Queue type
Elde does not heal as much as clefable, it’s the fact it does too much damage as a support
“This Pokémon is only broken on a team when the entire game is a team game” mf what
Nah clefable can be insane in solo q too... then again if the people pick DRAIN KISS then its a throw