The Ravel concerto is one of the MOST difficult pieces for keeping the orchestra and piano rhythmically in sync! The bassoonist and trumpet especially.
Fun fact: this exact piece was the one they played the first time they performed together, Argerich and Dutoit, 60 years ago... I just think it makes this video even more wholesome
Yes, there is no doubt she knows the tapestry of this work by heart, she can probably hear the cadenzas and rhythms almost in her sleep...having played it continuously for all of her professional life - and she does it with complete mastery! Still a difficult work to play, not least for the orchestra. There's a beautiful video of her playing the languid slow movement in Paris a couple of years ago, with the orchestra conducted by Emmanuel Krivine. Her playing is adorable and the music seems to be about the slow passage of time and memory, in an almost Proustian sense - it's especially easy to see it that way for all those of us who have listened to her for decades and can remember early photos and record ccovers of her with that glowing black mane of hair, now turned silvery grey... th-cam.com/video/jeuYd8nltBo/w-d-xo.html
Her comments at 9:00 are so touchingly sad. It must be bittersweet, having lived as a titan of the piano and a citizen of the world, to revisit old haunts without the comfort of familiar faces and friends. My heart goes out to her. It has been a privilege to have the first few decades of my life overlap with hers, and I hope she has joy and peace during these uncertain times.
I’m having trouble understanding... is she talking about musicians who died over the years in general or did something specific happen? Could you please explain🥲
@@user-xx1yl9ze1v well, they are not the youngest anymore and their friends might have been older than them. So I guess the former, but not sure of course.
This is a conductor's job. Not just to lead, but to shape and hear what the various sections can't. Also, as in the case of any concerto, to ensure a good dialogue between solo instrument and orchestra.
Martha introduced me to the Ravel in the 1960's via an LP purchase. Then l watched her later playing it again in vision ( on TV) and was mesmerised by her eloquent mastery of the keyboard and the ever so challenging score. A raven haired beauty touched a special place in my deep affection for this concerto. To this day l treasure Martha's recordings as a genuine privilege.
love how folks take a 2 second reaction and project their own sentiments onto the matter. Nobody knows what the hell she was reacting to...disappointment that he was going to be traveling out of the country? off the continent? to the USA? as far away as California? or a number of other possibilities that could easily have absolutely nothing to do with anything specific to "Los Angeles." Geez.
It’s interesting how it’s not only the music that’s taken into account but also the interpersonal relationships within the people in the orchestra. He mentioned things like their mood, the weather, their blood pressure etc. This has taught me that music interweaves the musician’s character and the technical aspects which reflects in their performance and their effect on the audience.
I love Mrs Argerich's playing. There is something so light in her playing and she is imho the best to bring the changes of emotions in the music to our ears. I cannot listen to many pianists, some make me nervous... idk why.
thank you thank you thank you thank you! i have been wondering for 10 years now what they'd been saying during this rehearsal and thanks to the subtitles i'm in the know at last!!!
Thank you soooooo much for the subtitles! I love watching orchestral rehearsals! Evidently, Ms. Argerich also understands French in addition to being stunningly brilliant on the piano.
A polyglot, indeed! She’s Argentine, so Spanish-speaking, but brought her children up in French. She also speaks English, German, Italian and Portuguese.
😮it is not rushing . Time just goes differently like some kind of time machine and and she made this possible. I feel so many people through her. Thanks.😊
She is one of the best pianists out there and to have the conductor that is so in tune with the soloists and the musicians is simply amazing! Like making love!
My goodness, what have we here? A completely awe-inspiring work of genius, a faultless pianist at the summit of performance, and a conductor whose thorough knowledge of everything and all instrumental parts in the score is matched by his spell-binding interpretative vision. All videos of rehearsals are educational, but this one will take some beating. Thank you!
Le génie de la composition et de l'orchestration de Ravel, deux immenses interprètes et un excellent orchestre (qui semble composé de beaucoup de jeunes musiciens), que du bonheur !
Im getting feeling orchestra like dutoit. He's tough but fair w good senseof humor. Fabulous back stage here. Why cant we get more like this ala all orchestras
I think this was recorded before 2015... I remember I used to watch this reharsal video and the performance video in 2010. I simply loved it! But then I couldn't find them anymore on TH-cam. Thanks for sharing this video again!
@@ccanaves Right. I had heard that the Bolero composition might have been an early stage manifestation of Ravel's affliction with Aphasia/Apraxia, perhaps explaining its simplicity.
@@jwilliams8210 It’s not, it’s just a composing exercise. This concerto was published 2-3 years after Bolero as well as his concerto for the left hand
@@pineapple7024 Hmmm... Possibly, you are correct, as evidence of this theory is a bit 'sus' (as today's kids say). However, these references: 1)"Alajouanine Th. Aphasia and artistic realization. Brain. 1948" and 2)"Kerner D. Ravels Tod. München Med Wochen. 1975", although speculative, are where this theory likely emanates(i.e., I didn't just make it up). Ravel composed the two Piano Concerti more or less concurrently (1929-1931). Still, he set out to write "a" Piano Concerto as early as 1906 and experienced fits and starts before completing the two many years later. So it is possible he had earlier material to work from. My musical ear tells me, as great as the Piano Concerti are, they don't have the same lushness or depth of say La Valse(piano transc.), Gaspard De La Nuit, or Daphis Et Chloe, all earlier works. Bolero, while entertaining, is not in the same class as the other pieces mentioned IMO.
Maybe things are different in America, but it's not usually the case that the orchestra players constantly throw each other under the bus during the rehearsals when the soloist is there. LOL
As a percussionist, my initial response to his comment was, you pleb, I'm the percussionist, I study tempo and rhythm twice as much as you understand it.
Ravel and Prokoviev; certainly two formative composers in Argerich's performances; or even composers influenced by her - in terms of their perception in concert life. . However, it is astonishing what a distinctive sound this woman is able to produce on the piano. Over the decades, it makes one wonder how the sound of these recordings would have come about. After a concert visit, or even such an audiovisual excerpt, it becomes clear: through Martha Argerich's performance. There are not too many pianists in history (at least those whose discography is documented) who have been able to achieve such a sound culture.
Oh that slow movement! And the bit that suddenly breaks in and goes 'dadadaDA'. And everyone knows exactly the little spine-thrilling phrase I am speaking of!
Aw man... I played trumpet in high school, my technical skills were okay, but I was really bad at actually playing as part of an orchestra. I had a poor sense of rhythm and tempo, I somehow couldn't listen to what everyone else was doing, so I kept on coming in early, or late, or playing too fast. So watching this genuinely gave me anxiety... being in an orchestra with arguably the world's best soloist and conductor is literally like a stress nightmare for me... Interesting though :P
Don't forget: the orchestra members aren't there on coincidence. Of course it can be stressful to be picked out especially as first chair. But in the end they're all high class musicians.
@@N.Hertha04 Oh, absolutely! And I have a huge amount of respect for them. I'm just keenly aware that, much as I love music, I could never do their job.
You just need to learn Bach two part and three part inventions on piano to learn the skill of listening to others while playing your parts. Trust me. It will train your spatial intelligence (right brain) and ears.
It's a skill that most people can learn. Trust me, once you have learned it, you will unlock alot of your musical potential, and playing well in an orchestra becomes something within your abilities and your enjoyment will reach another level. It happened to me.
Ejecutante estelar;;;me recuerda a mi hija, tocan de manera muy parecida;;;me lo decía el musicologo Cubano Roberto Choren Dotres ;;;; pero hasta que no la escuché no lo creía;;; ahora sí;;;; Felicidades y algo más Maravilloso
The Ravel concerto is one of the MOST difficult pieces for keeping the orchestra and piano rhythmically in sync! The bassoonist and trumpet especially.
Yes and the conductor's gesture is not clear at all
@@andreaguarino8207 its like this most of the time
Her ex- husband.
She is the world’s treasure.
@@robertjason6885 haaaaa ok
Fun fact: this exact piece was the one they played the first time they performed together, Argerich and Dutoit, 60 years ago... I just think it makes this video even more wholesome
Yes, there is no doubt she knows the tapestry of this work by heart, she can probably hear the cadenzas and rhythms almost in her sleep...having played it continuously for all of her professional life - and she does it with complete mastery! Still a difficult work to play, not least for the orchestra.
There's a beautiful video of her playing the languid slow movement in Paris a couple of years ago, with the orchestra conducted by Emmanuel Krivine. Her playing is adorable and the music seems to be about the slow passage of time and memory, in an almost Proustian sense - it's especially easy to see it that way for all those of us who have listened to her for decades and can remember early photos and record ccovers of her with that glowing black mane of hair, now turned silvery grey...
th-cam.com/video/jeuYd8nltBo/w-d-xo.html
Her comments at 9:00 are so touchingly sad. It must be bittersweet, having lived as a titan of the piano and a citizen of the world, to revisit old haunts without the comfort of familiar faces and friends. My heart goes out to her. It has been a privilege to have the first few decades of my life overlap with hers, and I hope she has joy and peace during these uncertain times.
I’m having trouble understanding... is she talking about musicians who died over the years in general or did something specific happen? Could you please explain🥲
@@user-xx1yl9ze1v well, they are not the youngest anymore and their friends might have been older than them.
So I guess the former, but not sure of course.
😂😂😂
Thank you for a wonderful comment.
Argerich and Dutoit performed at Teatro Colón a couple of weeks ago. It was gorgeous!
Thank god I became a heart surgeon and not a bassoonist.
Lmao
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That was wild - the pressure!
Love this comment
Where are the the English sub titles?
I think we can say that Ravel's concerto in G, is, and will be, one of the most beautiful piece of music ever written.
The sounds she pulls out of that piano are incredible
This is a conductor's job. Not just to lead, but to shape and hear what the various sections can't. Also, as in the case of any concerto, to ensure a good dialogue between solo instrument and orchestra.
3:40 Tell me I’m not the only one who noticed one of the violinists was blowing bubblegum!
8:27 I can relate with that one clarinetist who tries to squeeze in practicing weird runs in any break i can find😅
The 2nd movement was SO beautiful…..Ravel was a great orchestrator…..amongst other things….
I was in love and terrified for the entire video.
What a cool and fascinating inside look at how a top-notch soloist, conductor, and orchestra get a really complex concerto ready for performance.
What a beautiful relationship, even after divorce!
Her specutacular performance is beyond description , unfathomable and breathtaking
Her reaction at 9:30 when she asks where he's going after this, and he responds Los Angeles. Maybe not her favourite city. Made me chuckle.
13:52 I love how she immediately stands up at the end!
My favourite piano concerto!!
How fascinating!...And uncomfortably honest!
Why do you think it's uncomfortably honest?
@@florestan8333
It was sad when Argerich said that everyone they used to know in town was dead
Martha introduced me to the Ravel in the 1960's via an LP purchase. Then l watched her later playing it again in vision ( on TV) and was mesmerised by her eloquent mastery of the keyboard and the ever so challenging score. A raven haired beauty touched a special place in my deep affection for this concerto. To this day l treasure Martha's recordings as a genuine privilege.
Oh Martha when she says “but please don’t tell him”... @8:30 😀😀
Music makes you happy, even for a divorced couple.
Dutoit and Argerich were married?
@@Ale-qf1pm well, yes.
5:57 was a pretty hilarious reference to their divorce lol
Oh, the joys of rehearsing piano and orchestra! No one would ever guess what goes into it. Thank you for sharing!!!
She is absolutely amazing, her piano art is just perfect.
9:30 her reaction to "I'll be in LA" is hilarious!!!!
haha yeah, everyone hates USA
I guess she’s not too fond of the place
@@AaronAlterman Neither is anyone else who has lived there ever
love how folks take a 2 second reaction and project their own sentiments onto the matter. Nobody knows what the hell she was reacting to...disappointment that he was going to be traveling out of the country? off the continent? to the USA? as far away as California? or a number of other possibilities that could easily have absolutely nothing to do with anything specific to "Los Angeles." Geez.
@@pineapple7024 - get a load of pineapple brain...now he speaks for everybody whose ever live there, lol. Clown.
Martha is just flawless
Martha is a joy to watch.
God, how I wish I could hear Martha Argerich play live some day in either the Ravel or Prokofiev 3.
I was lucky to hear her in Paris several times and it is something to remember. 👍
Next week in Europe. Tickets sold out though...
It’s interesting how it’s not only the music that’s taken into account but also the interpersonal relationships within the people in the orchestra. He mentioned things like their mood, the weather, their blood pressure etc. This has taught me that music interweaves the musician’s character and the technical aspects which reflects in their performance and their effect on the audience.
Martha may be the best living pianist on the planet, bar none!
Yes. Michelangeli is gone
I love Mrs Argerich's playing. There is something so light in her playing and she is imho the best to bring the changes of emotions in the music to our ears.
I cannot listen to many pianists, some make me nervous... idk why.
I love this video. I've watched it hundreds of times...❤
thank you thank you thank you thank you! i have been wondering for 10 years now what they'd been saying during this rehearsal and thanks to the subtitles i'm in the know at last!!!
Martha is insanely talented! 😱😱😱
A valuable glimpse into the process of making art. Masterful talent on display, yet dependent on human beings making decisions and interacting.
Thank you soooooo much for the subtitles! I love watching orchestral rehearsals! Evidently, Ms. Argerich also understands French in addition to being stunningly brilliant on the piano.
She’s a polyglot!
A polyglot, indeed! She’s Argentine, so Spanish-speaking, but brought her children up in French. She also speaks English, German, Italian and Portuguese.
In fact, she lives in Genève, Switzerland
just beautiful to see this real life to top-class musicians! Thank you!
😮it is not rushing . Time just goes differently like some kind of time machine and and she made this possible. I feel so many people through her. Thanks.😊
She is one of the best pianists out there and to have the conductor that is so in tune with the soloists and the musicians is simply amazing! Like making love!
She is such a treasure.
Oh, I’ve been waiting for English subtitles!Thank you!!
My goodness, what have we here? A completely awe-inspiring work of genius, a faultless pianist at the summit of performance, and a conductor whose thorough knowledge of everything and all instrumental parts in the score is matched by his spell-binding interpretative vision. All videos of rehearsals are educational, but this one will take some beating. Thank you!
"I haven't practiced" ! Hee hee!!
It was early in the morning... And I doubt she likes to get up at 06:00... :)
They way Martha plays gives me goosebumps
I really enjoyed watching this (especially with the subtitles) bravo!
Thank you Claire Rosnel.
Thank you for sharing! Merci pour le vlog! Je moi suis enchante musique!
Ling Ling 40 hours. This video made me want to go PRACTICE!!!
This bit of film is a very beautiful insight into the rehersarl of two great musicans, the banter between them is priceless!
The level of passive aggression is so high, no one gets offended anymore
Le génie de la composition et de l'orchestration de Ravel, deux immenses interprètes et un excellent orchestre (qui semble composé de beaucoup de jeunes musiciens), que du bonheur !
Music making is hard work and it takes a lot of rehearsing, what a talent all over and Martha Argerich in the first place.
What ?? This is amazing thank you so much for this
Im getting feeling orchestra like dutoit. He's tough but fair w good senseof humor. Fabulous back stage here. Why cant we get more like this ala all orchestras
So sad Ravel couldn't hear Argerich play!
Señora Argerich, Muchas felicidades!!! Superb document!!!
I will forever love this exchange.
I think this was recorded before 2015... I remember I used to watch this reharsal video and the performance video in 2010. I simply loved it! But then I couldn't find them anymore on TH-cam. Thanks for sharing this video again!
I would LOVE to see them!
2009.
LOVED to see MTT rehearse an orchestra!!!!!
Just enjoy this glimpse into the heady world of some of the utmost in human accomplishment, and the people who live there.
I love this video so Much ❤
Très précieux !
Years ago we would watch MTT rehearse the SF Symphony for $5 and you would get coffee and donuts!!!!!!I LOVE San Francisco and MTT!
4:55 5:04 "vous avancez un peu" it means "you are a little bit ahead of the beat", not late.
Corrected, thanks!
Difficult piece. Ravel wrote beautiful music that is often difficult to perform. The man was a true genius...
And ironically, his most known and famous piece is Bolero, which is as simple as it gets.
@@ccanaves Right. I had heard that the Bolero composition might have been an early stage manifestation of Ravel's affliction with Aphasia/Apraxia, perhaps explaining its simplicity.
@@jwilliams8210 he kinda meant it as a joke tho
@@jwilliams8210
It’s not, it’s just a composing exercise. This concerto was published 2-3 years after Bolero as well as his concerto for the left hand
@@pineapple7024 Hmmm... Possibly, you are correct, as evidence of this theory is a bit 'sus' (as today's kids say). However, these references: 1)"Alajouanine Th. Aphasia and artistic realization. Brain. 1948" and 2)"Kerner D. Ravels Tod. München Med Wochen. 1975", although speculative, are where this theory likely emanates(i.e., I didn't just make it up). Ravel composed the two Piano Concerti more or less concurrently (1929-1931). Still, he set out to write "a" Piano Concerto as early as 1906 and experienced fits and starts before completing the two many years later. So it is possible he had earlier material to work from. My musical ear tells me, as great as the Piano Concerti are, they don't have the same lushness or depth of say La Valse(piano transc.), Gaspard De La Nuit, or Daphis Et Chloe, all earlier works. Bolero, while entertaining, is not in the same class as the other pieces mentioned IMO.
Maybe things are different in America, but it's not usually the case that the orchestra players constantly throw each other under the bus during the rehearsals when the soloist is there. LOL
You’re right 😂 That was very French situation haha
As a percussionist, my initial response to his comment was, you pleb, I'm the percussionist, I study tempo and rhythm twice as much as you understand it.
@@SJ-zn6tu You not right.
@@onlinetheory5115 hahaha and you’re not wrong!!
@@onlinetheory5115 yeah but it usually helps to hear another perspective? Not that the percussionist should be blamed in the video.
Meravigliosi! Una concertazione interessante 🎹💐
100, 200 fois ? Combien de fois ai-je écouté ce magnifique concerto de Ravel 💙🤍❤️
Marta es Argentina. Un orgullo !!
Très intéressant....elle est UNIQUE!
Fantastic video
Ravel and Prokoviev; certainly two formative composers in Argerich's performances; or even composers influenced by her - in terms of their perception in concert life. . However, it is astonishing what a distinctive sound this woman is able to produce on the piano. Over the decades, it makes one wonder how the sound of these recordings would have come about. After a concert visit, or even such an audiovisual excerpt, it becomes clear: through Martha Argerich's performance. There are not too many pianists in history (at least those whose discography is documented) who have been able to achieve such a sound culture.
God, it's such a great piece.
les choses qu'il dit (@ 11:36) sur le fait que la musique est différente de la peinture et de la sculpture sont vraiment très bien dites.
This is agreat master class !!!!
Oh that slow movement! And the bit that suddenly breaks in and goes 'dadadaDA'. And everyone knows exactly the little spine-thrilling phrase I am speaking of!
Amazing Greetings from Costa Rica Central América.
Fabuleuse quand même cette femme à son âge, quel jeu splendide dans Ravel!
Magnifique !
Aw man... I played trumpet in high school, my technical skills were okay, but I was really bad at actually playing as part of an orchestra. I had a poor sense of rhythm and tempo, I somehow couldn't listen to what everyone else was doing, so I kept on coming in early, or late, or playing too fast. So watching this genuinely gave me anxiety... being in an orchestra with arguably the world's best soloist and conductor is literally like a stress nightmare for me...
Interesting though :P
Don't forget: the orchestra members aren't there on coincidence. Of course it can be stressful to be picked out especially as first chair. But in the end they're all high class musicians.
@@N.Hertha04 Oh, absolutely! And I have a huge amount of respect for them. I'm just keenly aware that, much as I love music, I could never do their job.
You just need to learn Bach two part and three part inventions on piano to learn the skill of listening to others while playing your parts. Trust me. It will train your spatial intelligence (right brain) and ears.
It's a skill that most people can learn. Trust me, once you have learned it, you will unlock alot of your musical potential, and playing well in an orchestra becomes something within your abilities and your enjoyment will reach another level. It happened to me.
É um prazer assistir o burilamento da interpretação! Grande lição.
11:38 parole sante Maestro Dutoit. Thank so much.
6:01.. Pink Panther theme after divorce mention 😀
new favorite video
I love everybody commenting on these videos, you are my favorites!
She makes it look easy!!
J'adore quand Dutoit demande à Martha de se taire...
Belle complicité...
I cant belive I was there😍😍
Mind blowing.
Gracias, genia!!
Ejecutante estelar;;;me recuerda a mi hija, tocan de manera muy parecida;;;me lo decía el musicologo Cubano Roberto Choren Dotres ;;;; pero hasta que no la escuché no lo creía;;; ahora sí;;;; Felicidades y algo más Maravilloso
WHOA!!!! LISTEN TO THOSE BASS STRINGS ON THAT PIANO!
Steinway D
Meravigliosa questa prova. L'umiltà dei grandi musicisti.
Fascinating
8:00 What a flex
Quel bonheur ! Que la musique de Ravel est belle, rythmique et puissante !
The most Concert ever written
No doubt : Martha is absolutely the gratest pianist ever
Maravilloso!!!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
There is nothing easy to achieve ~
Who would want to take this kind of pressure? I’m glad I’m an amateur!