Considering the current state of some of the "triple A" games out there lately, I'm perfectly fine with a fun double A. Besides, outside of the triple A area is where the hidden gems are usually found. Anyway, I'm looking forward to this since I had a good time with the Trials of Mana remake.
Good news. Square has also been supporting the SaGa series (hardcore final fantasy) since the game boy so they seem to have legacy titles they will continue to fund no matter what. That’s what differentiate some japanese devs from the western ones imo.
Glad you Enjoyed the demo as a first-timer Kali. Yea, the Mana series isn't known for having very deep characters, but they make up for it in charm. Also, you say the combat is clunky then try playing the Trials of Mana Remake so you can compare it to this.
So far enjoying the demo, didnt get to play more than hour and half. Combat is enjoyable. Beautiful game and not bored. I was surprised I saw the demo up last night on steam when I did.
One thing I recommend doing to improve the experience is set the camera to max zoom out. I think it's an ok game. But the music is a bit of a let down in field areas. Bland and generic modern RPG music. (The menu and battle themes are amazing though) The camera controls really slow and there are clunky issues with movement.
as a 30 year mana fan, this brand new entry into the series is a breath of fresh air, while feeling like the classic adventure of mana > secret of mana > trials of mana, and yea they had some neat entries like legend of mana, this really takes it back to the first 3 and feels like a true proper sequel to trials of mana, im excited to play the final build of the game in a few weeks, the demo made me so nostalgic, and you dont need to reinvent the wheel, and in this case the ring system, it fits in perfectly with this new type of open zone game, and we will get flying on the back of that dragon that careena has, as that dragon is a mana beast like flammie from secret of mana
I've seen a lot of people down on the demo, but from the brief bit I've played, it feels just like Trials of Mana. Just with a bigger budget lol. If the story has a better narrative and group dynamic than Trails, I think this will be adorable and fun!
Hell no. I put 150 hours into trials and that game feels way more smooth than visions. Idk if the early skills make the game feel underwhelming. But damn man. Trials was so fast paced. Arise and relink didnt help either.
So never have i played a mana game but ive played lots of ff and star ocean games. This def feels alot like thr newest star Ocean but i like it alot, its got charm, thr combat im hoping gets deeper as we go and all the classes seemingly will add alot of different play. Def will pick it up when its out because of the demo when i wouldn't have prior.
I was also a first-timer of Mana - well I did play like 5 hours of Legend of Mana but bounced off it HARD - and I loved this so much I ended up getting both Trials and pre-ordering this. so yeah you could say I enjoyed it haha. a fun, colorful and beautiful, not too complex action RPG is exactly what I'm in the mood for. I also absolutely love stuff like Trials' class system and especially Visions' elemental class system. I do think the stories of all of these games have been almost embarrassingly sparse and in the case of Visions and DEFINITELY Trials, the dub VA is so bad it legit feels like a '90s Saturday morning cartoon dub, but the game is so breezy and sweet I don't actually mind it. honestly both Trials and Legends have reminded me of Dragon Quest, though DQ has much better stories - just a fun and incredibly charming time in a way I can't really describe. I normally hate this word, but the game feels really wholesome. even though the characters' personalities are bland, the game somehow has a ton of personality. my critiques: I got stuck under the boat during the final boss battle here and other TH-camrs I watched also had this issue. I'm kinda shocked they didn't fix this... it was a really big bug. also, the Morley guy (is that his name?) is so uncanny valley, I will be swapping him out of my party at the very first opportunity lol. I did also think the lead felt a TINY bit clunky in battle at first, but I either got used to it or it wasn't as bad as I thought because I was fine with it by the end. though I did swap to the girl for the last battle I also beat that trial area eyyyyy
As someone who also played on PC, i was able to get a butter smooth framerate by setting the refresh rate to my monitor rate (144) and turning off AMD super FX (running an Rtx 3090 ti) As for the combat, while I could be wrong, but the combat feels like its balanced for when youre closer mid to end game when your squad has more of their kits unlocked. It probably is also due to the fact that there are attack variations if you hold the attack button down midstring. (Girl with the fans can unlock a move that will propel her and whomever shes attacking skyward to allow for aerial combat without the need to jump)
It looks like this game is going to be the most vanilla mana game of the series, which is surprising in 2024. Usually these games push the envelope. Legend of Mana has the coolest map system and Trials of Mana has a great class system.
I got to play the demo and one hand I almost wish it was at the beginning to carry over save data, the other hand it is a decent showing of the combat with the characters and the classes as well. Definitely day 1 for me since I like the Mana series and when this got revealed I was glad it was an actual new game and not a mobile one that some Mana games tend to be when revealed. Would say it's worth giving Trials of Mana a shot someday since that also has a demo and if into trying out the older games and on a nice sale the collection of mana is on switch to give the 1st 3 games shot with FF adventure, Secret of Mana, and Trials of Mana in it's snes form that never got released outside of japan until 2019.
I haven't played a Mana game since way back in the day. Maybe GBA? Regardless I'm excited to see it make a comeback. Solid series and this new entry looks great.
Glad you are enjoying the demo! Unfortunately, I am very skeptical of it and I had played through the demo also. I am curious what the full game is going to be like. Fantastic review as always!
tried demo and it was a fun game...loved some things and some other stuff not much at all....characters was both hit n miss...riding on a huge wolf was ok n faster travel,but the combat is still same old stuff n this would have been more fun w some updates n "normal"combat for a semi open world game...Atleast it wasnt turn based so its that i guess. Also i understood the keys on pc and for a japanese game thats extremly great(usually hate the way they release games on pc with insane button combs and if u played a few jrpg u probably know what i mean w this....some games actually needs to save a file for me to know the buttons in some jrpg and this really sucks so it was great to be able to know what to actually press in this game from the start.... Graphics n visuals was just fine i think for this game.. Now am of into the previous game.. Trials of mana(i had forgotten i had this game so might e the right time to get through this game before release of visuals of mana)..The new game wa also way better n fun compared to the latest ac Mirage that is the worst game i tried so far in 2024..just horrible in almosty every way blaaah blaaah bla i now dont hate ac series games,but mirage was by far the worst of the newer a.c games so why they even released a horrible bad game is beyond me.. Just sitting n waiting for Visuals of mana i guess...Sadly the prize is like a AAA game but should actually be lower i think,its more of a AA game so why even prize it as a AAA game is so typical of this game company...always w the insane prizes even on very old games from them...just horrible prizes so nope best would be to actually wait n get it on sale or "STEAL IT ha,ha!"..
I was surprised to see frame rate issue and pop in on ps5 performance mode, since this games seems to be one square enix is confident in. Hopefully it’s just the demo that’s rough
Yeah I've been going through the demo and I do enjoy it so far. My main critiques would be the frame rate which isn't a big deal but it can be slighty jarring. Also the voice acting is just okayish. It's atleast more tolerable than Trials Of Mana but it still feels kinda lacking. Outside of those issues, I'm interested in seeing the full release of the game.
Growing up, the Mana series always had one feature that drew me in: couch co-op. I loved being able to pick up a controller and join in a game my brothers were playing and vice-versa. It didn't even matter if the game was clunky, half-baked, or poorly paced. Just working together was a blast! Later Mana games have dropped this feature, which saddens me. Yeah, the remake of Secret kept the multiplayer, but other than that, it's been absent for quite some time. When the biggest draw to a franchise has been removed, all I'm left with is a generic looking, baby's-first-action-RPG. Visions looks like it'll be fine. There's probably some fun to be had. Maybe I'd even enjoy it, but the soul (to me) isn't there anymore. Likely, I'll just wait a year or two and get it on sale or something. I hate saying that about a SqaureSoft franchise (SquareEnix and SqaureSoft are two VERY different companies), but I find myself saying it more and more.
You are making it seem like there has been 10 mana games with multiplayer 😂. The first had it but it didn't work well. It was better single player. Trials of mana didn't work well with it neither. Because the spells and attacks froze the screen. It just wasn't good for multiplayer. Legend of mana it was just tacked on. It would've work in this gameplay system. They would have to make the entire game based on multiplayer. Play granblue relink if you want that
@@merakiphotos4603 And yet, I enjoyed those games. They had this feature that made me fall in love with them; they no longer have that feature. Thus, my less-than-enthusiastic reaction to the game (same thing happened to me with Tales of Arise). I didn't even mind the screen freezing, but I see your point. Still, that's something that could be fixed by just not making the screen freeze to activate skills, and setting them in quick slots to avoid the clunky ring menu. I have played Relink. It was a fun romp, but then the quasi live service aspects took center stage and I felt I had enough. Like I said, Visions looks fine. I'll probably play and enjoy it at some point, but not at full price. I need something more than "fine" in my video games. Not every game is gonna be made to my liking, and that's okay. I do hope people have fun with it.
@@tdblackboxx6866 there are quick slots in trials of mana remake and visions of mana. The ring system is in it as well. But I get it. Hope you find rpgs that satisfy your needs
Facial expressions of characters are lacking&stiff, it's kinda put me off. I'm trying the game on Deck, input lack is kinda huge. I hope they add detailed graphic setting in the game, I think it's the AA that made the graphics look blurry. I agreed it feels very clunky to play. I think the production quality is pretty low in today's standards, there is not enough improvement comparing to trial of mana.
I feel like some of these japanese studios are falling behind. While I know it's valuable to draw on experience ans history, some of these studios are falling behind by putting elderly in charge of the games. When we compare this to games like grandblue and stellar blade, it's poor. I want to love it. The music and graphics are so good. The sense of motion and the battle system is awful ans sluggish. T
I grew up with Zelda and Mana. One of these games can sell 20m copies day 1, and another has been reduced to an AA- game. Another SE flop. High definition graphics but soulless marionette characters. SE has the opposite of the Midas touch, everything they contact turns to rust. Just look how lame ff7 rebirth was. Guess i won't buy another PlayStation since it just collects dust while i play switch games because Nintendo knows how to develop games.
Considering the current state of some of the "triple A" games out there lately, I'm perfectly fine with a fun double A. Besides, outside of the triple A area is where the hidden gems are usually found.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to this since I had a good time with the Trials of Mana remake.
Good news. Square has also been supporting the SaGa series (hardcore final fantasy) since the game boy so they seem to have legacy titles they will continue to fund no matter what. That’s what differentiate some japanese devs from the western ones imo.
SE on any game is not good news unless we're in the 1990s still when they had good developers.
Glad you Enjoyed the demo as a first-timer Kali. Yea, the Mana series isn't known for having very deep characters, but they make up for it in charm. Also, you say the combat is clunky then try playing the Trials of Mana Remake so you can compare it to this.
I will definitely get my hands on it! All in all I’m intrigued by this one and will keep my eyes on it fam. Thanks for always watching, appreciate you
Thank you for those video, it was very helpful.
Great review of the demo :)
Thank you so much :)
So far enjoying the demo, didnt get to play more than hour and half. Combat is enjoyable. Beautiful game and not bored. I was surprised I saw the demo up last night on steam when I did.
Do you think you will grab it day one?
100%, sorry on my phone, cuase with my kids. But yeah I got i love the exploring so far
I've always enjoyed the Mana games. Never really been into it for story but the gameplay is always fun.
The demo made this a day 1 for me. Having a great time.
One thing I recommend doing to improve the experience is set the camera to max zoom out.
I think it's an ok game. But the music is a bit of a let down in field areas. Bland and generic modern RPG music.
(The menu and battle themes are amazing though)
The camera controls really slow and there are clunky issues with movement.
as a 30 year mana fan, this brand new entry into the series is a breath of fresh air, while feeling like the classic adventure of mana > secret of mana > trials of mana, and yea they had some neat entries like legend of mana, this really takes it back to the first 3 and feels like a true proper sequel to trials of mana, im excited to play the final build of the game in a few weeks, the demo made me so nostalgic, and you dont need to reinvent the wheel, and in this case the ring system, it fits in perfectly with this new type of open zone game, and we will get flying on the back of that dragon that careena has, as that dragon is a mana beast like flammie from secret of mana
I've seen a lot of people down on the demo, but from the brief bit I've played, it feels just like Trials of Mana. Just with a bigger budget lol. If the story has a better narrative and group dynamic than Trails, I think this will be adorable and fun!
Hell no. I put 150 hours into trials and that game feels way more smooth than visions.
Idk if the early skills make the game feel underwhelming. But damn man. Trials was so fast paced. Arise and relink didnt help either.
So never have i played a mana game but ive played lots of ff and star ocean games. This def feels alot like thr newest star Ocean but i like it alot, its got charm, thr combat im hoping gets deeper as we go and all the classes seemingly will add alot of different play. Def will pick it up when its out because of the demo when i wouldn't have prior.
Definitely can tell this has the potential as the best in the Mana Series for sure (as someone who's been playing the past Mana games), brother
I wanted to know your thoughts on this title brother! I know you’ve been super hyped for it! Do you have a video coming out soon??
@@kali-qgames1301 for sure, this week
and also regarding Dynasty Warriors Origins, I also have a coming video on that as well
I was also a first-timer of Mana - well I did play like 5 hours of Legend of Mana but bounced off it HARD - and I loved this so much I ended up getting both Trials and pre-ordering this. so yeah you could say I enjoyed it haha. a fun, colorful and beautiful, not too complex action RPG is exactly what I'm in the mood for. I also absolutely love stuff like Trials' class system and especially Visions' elemental class system.
I do think the stories of all of these games have been almost embarrassingly sparse and in the case of Visions and DEFINITELY Trials, the dub VA is so bad it legit feels like a '90s Saturday morning cartoon dub, but the game is so breezy and sweet I don't actually mind it. honestly both Trials and Legends have reminded me of Dragon Quest, though DQ has much better stories - just a fun and incredibly charming time in a way I can't really describe. I normally hate this word, but the game feels really wholesome. even though the characters' personalities are bland, the game somehow has a ton of personality.
my critiques: I got stuck under the boat during the final boss battle here and other TH-camrs I watched also had this issue. I'm kinda shocked they didn't fix this... it was a really big bug. also, the Morley guy (is that his name?) is so uncanny valley, I will be swapping him out of my party at the very first opportunity lol. I did also think the lead felt a TINY bit clunky in battle at first, but I either got used to it or it wasn't as bad as I thought because I was fine with it by the end. though I did swap to the girl for the last battle
I also beat that trial area eyyyyy
As someone who also played on PC, i was able to get a butter smooth framerate by setting the refresh rate to my monitor rate (144) and turning off AMD super FX (running an Rtx 3090 ti)
As for the combat, while I could be wrong, but the combat feels like its balanced for when youre closer mid to end game when your squad has more of their kits unlocked. It probably is also due to the fact that there are attack variations if you hold the attack button down midstring. (Girl with the fans can unlock a move that will propel her and whomever shes attacking skyward to allow for aerial combat without the need to jump)
The demo left a very good impression on me. Definitely gonna buy the full game when it's out
Nice, seems like good fun.
From feedback ive seen this game demo is an 8 out of 10. Not bad but not amazing. If the game imlroves over the demo it could be a solid arpg
That would be awesome! I’m hoping it does well
W Kail Q
Appreciate you always fam, I hope you have been well!!
@@kali-qgames1301 yessir I’m doing well keep doing your thing 🤝🏾💯
It looks like this game is going to be the most vanilla mana game of the series, which is surprising in 2024. Usually these games push the envelope. Legend of Mana has the coolest map system and Trials of Mana has a great class system.
Which weapon are you using? I used claymore and to me it felt quite smooth I liked it
I used the standard weapon! The one in res
@@kali-qgames1301 in the res?
I got to play the demo and one hand I almost wish it was at the beginning to carry over save data, the other hand it is a decent showing of the combat with the characters and the classes as well. Definitely day 1 for me since I like the Mana series and when this got revealed I was glad it was an actual new game and not a mobile one that some Mana games tend to be when revealed. Would say it's worth giving Trials of Mana a shot someday since that also has a demo and if into trying out the older games and on a nice sale the collection of mana is on switch to give the 1st 3 games shot with FF adventure, Secret of Mana, and Trials of Mana in it's snes form that never got released outside of japan until 2019.
I haven't played a Mana game since way back in the day. Maybe GBA? Regardless I'm excited to see it make a comeback. Solid series and this new entry looks great.
Yeah it wasn’t bad! If I get a review copy I’ll definitely cover it on the channel!
Glad you are enjoying the demo! Unfortunately, I am very skeptical of it and I had played through the demo also. I am curious what the full game is going to be like. Fantastic review as always!
tried demo and it was a fun game...loved some things and some other stuff not much at all....characters was both hit n miss...riding on a huge wolf was ok n faster travel,but the combat is still same old stuff n this would have been more fun w some updates n "normal"combat for a semi open world game...Atleast it wasnt turn based so its that i guess.
Also i understood the keys on pc and for a japanese game thats extremly great(usually hate the way they release games on pc with insane button combs and if u played a few jrpg u probably know what i mean w this....some games actually needs to save a file for me to know the buttons in some jrpg and this really sucks so it was great to be able to know what to actually press in this game from the start....
Graphics n visuals was just fine i think for this game..
Now am of into the previous game..
Trials of mana(i had forgotten i had this game so might e the right time to get through this game before release of visuals of mana)..The new game wa also way better n fun compared to the latest ac Mirage that is the worst game i tried so far in 2024..just horrible in almosty every way blaaah blaaah bla i now dont hate ac series games,but mirage was by far the worst of the newer a.c games so why they even released a horrible bad game is beyond me..
Just sitting n waiting for Visuals of mana i guess...Sadly the prize is like a AAA game but should actually be lower i think,its more of a AA game so why even prize it as a AAA game is so typical of this game company...always w the insane prizes even on very old games from them...just horrible prizes so nope best would be to actually wait n get it on sale or "STEAL IT ha,ha!"..
I was surprised to see frame rate issue and pop in on ps5 performance mode, since this games seems to be one square enix is confident in. Hopefully it’s just the demo that’s rough
Yeah I've been going through the demo and I do enjoy it so far. My main critiques would be the frame rate which isn't a big deal but it can be slighty jarring. Also the voice acting is just okayish. It's atleast more tolerable than Trials Of Mana but it still feels kinda lacking. Outside of those issues, I'm interested in seeing the full release of the game.
You should really give trials of mana remake a go its great
I might try it
Growing up, the Mana series always had one feature that drew me in: couch co-op. I loved being able to pick up a controller and join in a game my brothers were playing and vice-versa. It didn't even matter if the game was clunky, half-baked, or poorly paced. Just working together was a blast! Later Mana games have dropped this feature, which saddens me. Yeah, the remake of Secret kept the multiplayer, but other than that, it's been absent for quite some time. When the biggest draw to a franchise has been removed, all I'm left with is a generic looking, baby's-first-action-RPG.
Visions looks like it'll be fine. There's probably some fun to be had. Maybe I'd even enjoy it, but the soul (to me) isn't there anymore. Likely, I'll just wait a year or two and get it on sale or something. I hate saying that about a SqaureSoft franchise (SquareEnix and SqaureSoft are two VERY different companies), but I find myself saying it more and more.
You are making it seem like there has been 10 mana games with multiplayer 😂. The first had it but it didn't work well. It was better single player. Trials of mana didn't work well with it neither. Because the spells and attacks froze the screen. It just wasn't good for multiplayer. Legend of mana it was just tacked on. It would've work in this gameplay system. They would have to make the entire game based on multiplayer. Play granblue relink if you want that
@@merakiphotos4603 And yet, I enjoyed those games. They had this feature that made me fall in love with them; they no longer have that feature. Thus, my less-than-enthusiastic reaction to the game (same thing happened to me with Tales of Arise). I didn't even mind the screen freezing, but I see your point. Still, that's something that could be fixed by just not making the screen freeze to activate skills, and setting them in quick slots to avoid the clunky ring menu.
I have played Relink. It was a fun romp, but then the quasi live service aspects took center stage and I felt I had enough.
Like I said, Visions looks fine. I'll probably play and enjoy it at some point, but not at full price. I need something more than "fine" in my video games. Not every game is gonna be made to my liking, and that's okay. I do hope people have fun with it.
@@tdblackboxx6866 there are quick slots in trials of mana remake and visions of mana. The ring system is in it as well. But I get it.
Hope you find rpgs that satisfy your needs
SE=autolose for any good 1990s IP. That's all you really need to know. I knew this wouldn't capture the old school mana games when I saw SE behind it.
The wrong hood 😂
Lmao 😂 I’m glad someone caught that
Does it have local co op ?
Unfortunately no
The combat feels slower than I was expecting it feels like the attack animation should be faster, so far trails of mana combat was better and more fun
Facial expressions of characters are lacking&stiff, it's kinda put me off.
I'm trying the game on Deck, input lack is kinda huge. I hope they add detailed graphic setting in the game, I think it's the AA that made the graphics look blurry.
I agreed it feels very clunky to play.
I think the production quality is pretty low in today's standards, there is not enough improvement comparing to trial of mana.
This is a totally fair take! I'll still give with a fair shot, but it's definitely a little rough
I feel like some of these japanese studios are falling behind. While I know it's valuable to draw on experience ans history, some of these studios are falling behind by putting elderly in charge of the games. When we compare this to games like grandblue and stellar blade, it's poor. I want to love it. The music and graphics are so good. The sense of motion and the battle system is awful ans sluggish.
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I grew up with Zelda and Mana. One of these games can sell 20m copies day 1, and another has been reduced to an AA- game.
Another SE flop. High definition graphics but soulless marionette characters. SE has the opposite of the Midas touch, everything they contact turns to rust. Just look how lame ff7 rebirth was.
Guess i won't buy another PlayStation since it just collects dust while i play switch games because Nintendo knows how to develop games.
It doesn't look horrible but it also doesn't really do anything new. It's a mid game at best.
Unfortunately my fears from months ago came true. Sadly I think im gonna pass on this one.
What fears?
@@thebobo1229 That it would be janky. For me, the combat looks to be. Just my opinion.
SE on any game=autolose. Good thing we still have Zelda