Yes, Valve (kinda) downgraded the Steam Deck. No, it doesn't matter. (Plus other Deck News)
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This is where I disagree with you. If they downgrade your steam deck because "it runs the same" so they didn't need to tell you anything about it, then is it cheaper or does it cost the same? If it cost the same why do I want to buy the downgrade version and how do you see it as a win? WTH?
Look, it is about the principle of the thing and about establishing patterns of behavior.
They didn't tell us about the Delta Fan, we had to find that out on our own, they decided it was "good enough", the customer decided the high pitched whine is not good enough.
Now they are messing with the SSD, without telling us (no, changing a line in a product page that people looked at a year ago when they made their reservations and purchase decisions is NOT informing your customer, not to mention that line wasn't even updated in the german translatio)... and now they are telling us again "it's good enough" without actually disclosing the full before/after specs.
x2 / x4 is not that big of a deal, but what are they not telling you?
I would like to know the MTBF on both SSDs for example. ...like half the expected lifetime is something that can EASILY be hidden and affect you once the device is out of warranty.
I would just like to know for sure, because i'm not fanboying over brand name.
Also, if you buy an Alienware pre-build (yeah yeah, i know, lol, hear me out, i could just as well make a car comparison!), you waited almost a year for it and then it arrives with a different fan that makes noise and a lower spec SSD that you didn't order, it is obviously a cheaper product than what you've paid for, of course the SSD manufacturer will ask more money for an x4 than an x2 device. ...you wouldn't accept this from Alienware, so why shrug it off here? It is just a PC.
The problem is not that they are doing it, the problem is the lack of communication.
(and for the record, i got my deck, i got the x4 SSD, but i got the Delta Tinitus Fan and that will cost me another 40€ and an hour or so of my life to replace that thing, that is if iFixit should ever get stock, and until then i will avoid playing the games that would stress the hardware all because somebody at Valve said "good enough". ...and that is with the updated Fan curve).
Also, one day i'll be done with this Steam Deck, it could break, there might be a version 2 or whatever, the SSD is very easily something that can be salvaged for other purposes, this is not just some random internal component, this is storage that you can use anywhere else.
And if you upgrade to a 1TB or 2TB drive in a year or 2 because prices drop... then you still can find a use for the 256 or 512GB SSD you got there, frankly i don't even care about Videogame loading times on the deck, i care if i can plug this into my unRAID server as a cache drive.
LESS fanboy mode, more investigation please.
This, and most SSDs don't really affect the "gaming performance" compared to one another, even if one is significantly faster. Mainly because it generally doesn't affect FPS, which is apparently the only gaming performance that matters.
Slower load times are a worse experience and is worse for gaming.
So unless the x4 SSD is the same speed as the x2 SSD (not unheard of, x2 is plenty fast for slower SSDs), its a downgrade.
Communication would be nice
You can always return it or cancel your pre-order if it bothers you
This 10,000%.
People are getting annoyed not because a minor change in the parts, but because Valve is simply sliding these in and from what it looks like, hoping that consumers don't notice.
Also, hello from reddit 👋, I've seen your posts here and there.
It's definitely a pattern here, Valve is trying to do things extremely quiet-like. It's inexcusable and not only makes the company look bad, but the community as well for trusting said company to deliver as intended.
I worry about the PC gaming community, as if we're this complacent, other companies will definitely take note and start trying to cut corners.
@@minarchisttrucker2775 That's the place ZeroB4NG's analogy falls apart, imo. We haven't preordered these devices, we paid $5 for a spot on the waiting list. We won't actually pay the hundreds of dollars until Valve has one ready for us, already manufactured, specs set in stone. It's at that point we can reevaluate its worth.
Then again, people can only make such an informed decision if hardware revisions are made transparently.
How do you know if the ssd you get with the deck is pcie x2 or x4? I'm assuming you opened it up to check or can you find out another way?
About the warning by Lawrence Yang: way back around the time of the review embargo getting lifted, GamersNexus found that the charging circuit got pretty hot and got significantly hotter with the case opened and the backside removed. This proves that Yang knows what he's talking about and that this warning is made honestly. Of course I expected both those things, but it's still good to see some independent evidence every once in a while.
Yang is one of the key designers for the Deck. It's no shock that he's right
@@chickenpasta7359 It is indeed no shock. In other words, it's what I expected. But it's still good to see some independent evidence every once in a while.
I don't buy that.
"Not affected in almost anyway" means it is affected in someway.
I don't buy their story.
You can have a x2, I want my x4
I don’t like when companies do the lottery hardware take on their products. I reserved a specific version of my deck based on specific specks. Nintendo does that crap with their handheld screens (3ds comes to mind with their isp lottery)
The Steam Deck fan lottery has a quantified pitch difference, but I haven't seen proof that anything else is noticeable.
Funny how the only folk not bothered about the change in spec are the folk who got an original device. Also funny how folk who've got their deck already are eulogizing when Valve "say" they are ramping up orders. Meanwhile... Ordered Day 1, top model, UK, took 90mins of struggling with their broken reserve process and I'm still in Q3. I've every expectation that I'll be nearer the end of Q3 than the start too.
Glad I didn't get top model. I ordered 256 model 8 hours late and I just got my email yesterday. Top model had the largest amount of orders.
Ordered top model. UK. Q3 reservation. Email came last night. Ordered today.
I ordered the middle model on the first day afternoon (because of the broken website), was Q2 and got it in April.
Mine said July-August got my email last day of June.
I reserved mine day one about 8 or so hours after preorders went up. Got my email 2 weeks ago. I ordered the 256 though. Seems like more people ordered the 64 or 512 so it likely depends on the version you ordered also.
It better not affect gaming performance. As somebody mainly interested in emulation where you need to squeeze as much performance out as possible, sneakily downgrading specs is not something to gloss over.
I'm not a fan of changing specs mid cycle like this, even if it doesn't affect performance I imagine it will impact drive speed when moving files on and off of the deck
2x gen 3 PCI-E is around 1.8GB/s. Good luck with saturating that, I have no idea how you'll manage it.
Even if you are moving files on and off of the deck, I doubt it will ever really matter.
1. Most typical methods of transfer (via a network, to an SD card) will never be bottlenecked by the SSD. The only scenario where I could see it maybe mattering would be to a fast external SSD via USB.
2. Most file transfers will probably not be large enough for it to be any serious inconvenience. If a transfer was running at the maximum x2 Speed, chances are it'll still be done in a matter of seconds, a few minutes at most.
3. Scenarios where you'd want to transfer large amounts of data like that are probably quite rare for the way you're typically going to use the steam deck. It's not a video-editing workstation ot something.
4. How fast are the 2230 x4 SSDs anyway? I haven't benchmarked the one in my Deck, but I wouldn't be surprised if it tops out no where near the maximum x4 bandwidth.
@Zen17h89 yeh I feel you dude. I purchased mine 6 days after pre orders went live & ill be pissed if I get a half speed ssd. Moving all my files slower is not what I call fun 😒
Guessing the material shortage is still hitting valve, wouldn't be surprised if it was either doing this or pushing out orders for another year or so
@@Der-Kleine I benchmarked my 2230 1tb SN530 in my steam deck, it's a x4 drive. Sequential read speed is 1800MB/s. So it's actually below the maximum bandwidth of x2. I don't think other 2230 drives are any different.
As a person who has a 64gb emmc version (fully intending to fit my own SSD as want at leat 1tb of storage) the SSD shipped with the deck doesn't matter, the PCie bandwidth dosn't tell the whole story the controller IC and DRAM memory on the ssd makes a far bigger difference to ssd speed, mine is due in October 12m after reserveing fingers crossed
If they can launch most games off of a sd card almost as quick as off the NVMe, I'm sure the bottleneck in the system is not the speed of the storage
Were those SD load tests performed with the SD card removed and then inserted? I mean there is a small chance they could be doing something where load speed is throttled when an SD card is inserted at all. I highly doubt it but given their occational non-transparancy stains on their otherwise open information, it's still possible, though easily debunkable (which has hopefully been done).
@@trevorhaddox6884 Not having a deck yet to experiment with myself I can't say either way but several channels have done the tests with the 3 different models and sd cards in and out each of those models. If Valve were doing something fishy (limiting the speed if there's a sd card in) one of the channels would have found something because the happen to have done to ssd tests before ever putting a sd card in.
However unless Gamers Nexus or Hardware Unboxed do the tests I will never be 100% sure the methodology was EXACTLY the same for all versions but with the number of channels that have done the tests I'm 95% sure Valve aren't playing tricks with load times.
I personally think the reason the loads are so good on slow devices is due to the pre-caching/downloading shaders
@nicholas stewart Valve have already stated it doesn't invalidate your warranty provided you didn't break it while doing the upgrade.
@nicholas stewart dont think it can void the warranty same as in a laptop, also thinking of adding a small heatsink to the charge IC to cool it down, but as I fix electronics for a living it dosnt look to bad
Was chatting to friends about not getting my email. Then got on a 3 hour flight yesterday, and the mail arrived while in flight! Convenient. Ordered mine.
Gardiner, impacted in "almost any way" is not the same as "Totally unaffected".
Linear file transfer is the only thing affected and that won't impact gaming.
"in almost". It would still be nice of them to make people aware if they have ordered one before they changed the spec.
I remember the days when everyone said "If you're getting a Steam Deck late, you're getting the better version".
From owning every console, the newer models only get manufactured with cheaper parts the more the product is duplicated.
PS3 and iPhone's are perfect examples.
It's a balance most of the time. You'll get a version with different materials (sometimes a downgrade), but either better technical design or without hardware issues the first batches might have
Not true for the Switch. Every other revision was better than the previous apart from the patched "HAC-001" [w/o "(-01)"] being the first revision requiring complicated mod-chip installations to run homebrew, non-fuse-blowing firmware updates (& as a result downgrades), alternative OSes and dem "high seas ROMs".
The Lite arguably was worse for everything but the smaller form-factor, but that's not really a revision of the original Switch because "it does not switch" at many people noticed.
Tutorial on getting DoomRPG to run on steam deck pls, tried to set it up, and it starts in software renderer mode i think (based on the error it gives). What did you do besides setting it to use proton experimental ?
I wanted to ask. How well does dragon age run on the steam deck? Any settings or proton mode Emily would recommend? :)
Hello Gardiner, do you like Omori?
The developer hasn't enabled cloud saves and I waited almost an entire year to play it on the Deck. Would you be able to make a short tutorial on how to manually copy the save files into the Steamer(Deck), please?
Do you want to copy over the save files to the Deck once? Or do you want keep it in sync with another device like a PC and the Deck? If it's the former, you'd have to look up where the save files are located for that game and copy them from your PC (I presume) and to where they should be on a Linux system for the Deck. If you want to keep it in sync between the two, maybe you could look into something like SyncThing?
@@mrtycho26 I want to copy my backup from my desktop- onto a USB drive(already done)- and onto the Deck.
3:30 The problem probably isn't the power draw of the SSD itself. If Yang is correct that the SD wasn't designed for the amount of power that 2242 drives draws, than SD shouldn't work for 2230 either. If you look up the specs, 2230 and 2242 power draw range is nearly identical, and there are 2230 drives that actually draw more power than 2242 and vice versa depending on manufacturer. SSD capacity also doesn't seem to have any baring on power draw according to the spec sheets I've seen, a 1 TB and 128 GB drive from the same model seem to carry the same spec. The charger IC is probably what will prematurely kill the Steam Deck. It's already hotter than what I would have liked to see.
The guy who made the mod had replied that the device was running within temps and the SSD they picked was chosen that it didn't have to much power draw
Want to use a physically larger m.2 drive just put it in a USB C enclosure and double-sided sticky Mount the thing to the back of the steam deck then use a short USB cable and plug that into the USB C plug on top.
It'll kind of remind you of how the Xbox 360 controller had the battery compartment sticking out the bottom.
I was also in the first batch of Q3 emails. 🥳
Now if only shipping would hurry up...
The "downgrade" thing is reminding me of when the PS5 got the slightly reduced heatsink and some people kinda freaked out about it. It'd be cool to see benchmarks to confirm, but like with that it's probably not a big deal.
How can I get an e-mail notification from Valve on my phone?
@@doclouis4236 Gmail, outlook. It sends the email to whatever account you set it to
I posted this on Fan The Deck's own update video in which he mentions this, but I'll post it here. As someone who has been in the tech community for over 10 years, let me provide my 2 cents on the Steam Deck SSD situation, and in-general all of the hardware inconsistencies:
As far as performance in games is concerned, even using an old hard drive will not impact performance 99% of the time; only in load times. There is the very rare exception where a game constantly executes read / write operations on the fly and constantly needs to load in textures from your own machine, but these games were incredibly rare even 5 years ago, and pretty much are nonexistent now (most games that need this typically stream such information over the internet instead, which does mean you need a decent connection but does not get impacted in any meaningful way by what drive it is on). Considering the performance capabilities of the Steam Deck, and considering that plenty of people play intensive games on maxed out settings on their mechanical hard drives just fine in expensive desktop PCs, I consider losing out on the lanes a non-issue even on the face of it. Even a single PCIe 3.0 lane is quite fast.
Speaking in more detail, there's more to it than just lanes and PCI Express revision. The rest of the hardware on the drive could significantly impact the speed of the drive, and when comparing a crappy Gen 4 SSD to a really-good Gen 3 SSD, it is entirely possible for the Gen 3 SSD to win, despite the initial bandwidth disadvantage. What I have not seen anyone talk about so far is the rated speed of both drives, as it's entirely possible that they, for instance, switched from a 4Gb/s x4 SSD to an 8Gb/s x2 SSD, which apart from the physical lane limitations is very close to identical performance.
Another thing to consider is that the 64GB eMMC models ship with a PCIe 2.0 x1 interface, which is significantly less bandwidth than a PCIe 3.0 x2 interface, and microSD cards are also typically even slower than this, and yet all of the testing done on microSD cards showed no issues with performance, so I would not be concerned about losing 2 lanes on a very fast drive, when the much-slower eMMC and microSD cards have been provably a non-issue apart from loading times (which still weren't too bad even on a microSD card).
I 100% agree that there should have been more transparency about this change, but I would consider this adjustment a non-issue. The different fans, different SSDs, different RAM, etc. have all been decisions that I do not take an issue with. Such decisions are in-line with current-gen consoles (see PS5 for some examples of the exact same kind of thing), offer no meaningful performance change, and only offer the potential caveat of subjective distaste for the difference. The in-depth analysis of the Steam Deck fans done by Gamer's Nexus clearly shows that you would really only notice this when putting the two side-by-side, and Valve rolled out an updated fan curve that solved the noise issues for a large portion of people, so to me Valve has been succeeding for the most part here. I actually appreciate that Valve found a smart way to increase their supply chain amidst the shortages, by swapping parts in such a way so as to provide no significant difference in performance while providing Valve more availability so they can ship more units. Considering that they are probably either taking a loss or breaking even on every sale, I am quite impressed overall with how pro-consumer Valve has been this entire time. More transparency would have been great, especially when changes to what a customer is buying are made, but as far as the changes themselves are concerned, I am not in the least bit concerned.
Hopefully this addresses some folks' concerns and puts some of the "drama" to bed. :)
What day did you reserve your steam deck? Mine was on July 17th and I’m just trying to ballpark when my email might come in : )
What about the drop of performances when docked in gaming mode instead of desktop mode? i get a sensible input lag. Could be the reason for the delayed official dock?
maybe the pcie drop is to give the usb c port more lanes?
It also might be similar to how the deck was originally delayed, many feel it was the os not being quite ready that caused the delay. As someone who has a dock I can tell you it does not feel that great to use.
Like there's some simple stuff that is quite silly they haven't addressed yet.
For instance when I plug it into a dock, it'll still choose the steam deck as the primary controller even if I have an external one connected.
It really should switch the external controller to primary without me having to go in and do it myself.
The UI gets funny sometimes when you hook it up to a 1440p monitor but if you run the steamdeck UI through the desktop shortcut hack. everything scales just fine.
(coffee didnt quite kick in yet)
@@Dracossaint it's clearly something on the OS side since this input lag is non existent in desktop mode with the same hardware attached and the same game running (neon abyss fyi).
@@flaviozancarli5273 maybe it's something to do with it using different levels of access between the steam deck UI and the desktop ui via the drivers. also that game style seems like it would be latency sensitive as all heck, and when using it in steamdecks ui, theirs a additional translation layer that isn't a thing on the desktop UI unless your in BP mode.
It might be worth trying it in Big picture mode via the desktop ui and see of it happens then as well. It won't address the issue but it would definitely help you nail it down
Is it just the m.2 SSD itself that's different?
I had thought (hopefully misunderstood) that the Steam Deck die maybe had minor faults (not all PCIe lanes working) but other than that functioning fine and that was how they were going to be able to increase production.
That is certainly a interesting conspiracy theory... in that case even upgrading to a x4 drive yourself wouldn't even work. That'd be extra cheeky.
@@ZeroB4NG I'm probably wrong, put 2+2 together and come with 26 lol
Does anyone else have the bug where u press the 3 dots button or steam button, but can’t navigate through it
Hey dude, long time fan of your content. I was wondering if you could do a video on how to setup Syncthing on the Deck with non steam games like Minecraft for example.
I got my email Thursday so excited, my estimation was mid August so I'm so happy.
Felt like this time would never come.
Q3. Got my email yesterday. How long does it take them to ship after purchase?
Took about a week
@@gardiner_bryant Thanks for the reply! I'm gonna go ahead and sleep for a week straight
Yes would love to see a how to on DoomRPG on the deck. I've been reliving my flip phone youth on my desktop with it. It's way better than it should be.
I wanna see Lost planet come to PC so I can live my childhood fantasy. I never had any games on a flip phone cuz obviously they are going to be trash vs a DS or PSP.
There is a collection of old flip phone games on modern phones by the people who rippoff other game franchises. Wish I could remember there name. I can remember about them is that they are famous enough I've heard of them.
Looked it up and the company is Gameloft
I have received my SECOND Steam Deck about a week ago (the first one died while charging, with a bad burning smell from the vent - I suspect a PMIC failure) and both my original unit and the replacement have the same Kingston OM3PDP3512B SSD which is PCI-E x4. The replacement unit does seem to have the Delta fan though as it is rather noisy on full load while I could barely hear my original unit even when running Crysis Remastered.
got my order in yesterday. Was quite surprised to get the email on the first day of Q3. still no shipping notice yet.
both my friend and i also had our Steam Deck e-mails go out on the first day of the Q3 e-mails, i'm so excited!
Q3, 256gb EU here, got my mail yesterday and the order is "being processed". Can't wait.
Even though you said "It doesn't really matter [according to Valve]." I just checked lspci and the controller I got [PS5013-E13-35 (E13T)] is only available as "PCIe 3.0 x4". I'm happy apart from the fact I got the Delta jet-engine fan (judging by noise) apparently. 😑😒
Would love a tutorial to set up DOOM RPG on the Steam Deck. Seems like it'd be great to play on it!
It doesn't matter, to you. When I pay for something I expect to get what we agreed to. Your entire, anyone who cares about this is a "insert insult" is a self righteous diatribe and doesn't make your OPINION any more valid.
Received mine this past Sunday. It is a truly amazing piece of tech. I am playing games on it that I had rarely played on my laptop. Graphics, gameplay, and controls are all excellent! Thanks for the channel.
My steamdeck finally got delivered today!
Stardew valley is also available on android, but the PC x86_64 linux version can be run natively on arm linux with mono or under emulation with box64.
Pretty easy to change the M.2 SSD anyway, so you can buy cheapest model then get way bigger SSD. You got the shield with the Steam Deck so there shouldn't be issues when it comes to wireless connections. PCIe gen 3 doesn't have big thermal issues like gen 4 has, so I seriously doubt it would be an issue. But it is possible to buy the model they use if that is what one wants to do.
Super curious what settings Emily is using for Dragon Age as far as graphics and control setups. It's my favorite game of all time but I can only get between 70-90 mins of playtime before the deck runs out of charge.
I've been here since almost the beginning. So neat to see how the channel has evolved
Paying the same while others received it with better and faster components after waiting for a year? I do not like that at all.
I got by email on June 16th, ordered immediately and waited a week for mine to get here. Been playing it almost daily ever since and already put over 20 hours into gaming alone on it. I beat Stacklands in its entirety and I’ve been playing through Persona 4 Golden as well
I can only imagine how awesome Persona 4 plays. I've been waiting to play Danganronpa and Just Cause and luckily I got my email yesterday.
@@tiandi5585 persona 4 golden plays so well except one tiny Hangup during battles but it it’s when you go into that group attack and it only hitches for like a second. Otherwise it’s smooth as butter.
Jackbox is a brilliant idea for the Steam Deck that never even crossed my mind. Thanks for the idea!
Will receive mine tomorrow. I ordered 512GB. I'm from the Philippines.
reserved the 512 model on the 24 of July 2021 (Italy), got the email with the first batch of Q3. Now I'm just sitting here waiting (and drooling)
its more about transparency I think, while x2 and x4 don't make much difference if you ordered with the expectation of a x4 and get a x2 that's not 100% what you ordered and should be disclosed.
If you are getting the Steam deck to use as a portable computer then the downgraded hard drive will be noticed in desktop mode when saving or moving files.
Still waiting to get my Steam Deck back from RMA. I only had the thing a few days and I had to send it back. But damn I was so hooked on it. It quickly became my jrpg gaming system of choice in those few days.
Ordered my Q3 512GB Deck less than fifteen minutes after the noon-ish email on Thursday! S'posedly it'll arrive before tomorrow night! And today's my birthday! Woo!
"If the performance is totally unaffected by this change as Valve suggests, then why should they mention it beyond updating the product page" - because it's fair to the end users. If they claim the performance is almost "unaffected", then they shouldn't fear going out with all the test results they've ran and they should perhaps justify why they went with this model over the other. And yes, besides the supply chain shortage, it's most likely the lower price tag, but they can at least be transparent about it, I don't think the customers would mind. Most of the customers already know that Valve is losing money on every sold unit (and yes, I know this is far from accurate, given they make more money by selling games on steam, which the Deck will significantly increase... but again, it's way more complicated than that).
So to answer the **why**, it's to be more transparent, especially towards the potential customers who have been following the Deck from day 1. Just my two cents.
Still waiting, although Im not in a hurry anymore by seeing the number of updates the steam deck is getting. I rather wait and get a more polish product.
FYI: my Steam Deck 512 GB reservation was placed February 1st 11:17 pm and my email is timestamped September 1st 11:17 am with a 72 hour order deadline. Tracking number says it's been shipped from Carol Stream, Illinois through FedEx and should be delivered by the 11th! 😁
My opinion on the SSD spec change is since there was a bottleneck elsewhere that it doesn't really matter. (Entitled PCMR would prefer a press release and price reduction, but business reality rarely works that way.) Hopefully, Valve will make their list of certified M.2 2230 publicity available so those who want to upgrade can do so safely! Maybe have ifixit sell them with instructions and recommended tools.
How do you see that you are I’m q3 Que? I only got the auto email when I entered Que that I have now entered reservation Que….
Go to the Steam Deck's store page and scroll down to where you placed your reservation. It will tell you which queue you're in.
Do you think there will be another Steam Deck but more improved and evolved than the first one. Gabe Newell may have to take a look at the first one, like battery Life and less fan noise but able to cool the system down while you game on the go or at home in bed if you wanted to. Maybe have a bigger storage card to fit at least 2TB card in.
The PDF about the Asian pre-order through Komodo has promised future Steam Deck revisions. I also remember Ayaneo or someone already leaked images of their product with the Steam UI.
Got my email when I came back home yesterday evening (first thing I saw since I minimized all my windows). I ordered mine on the first day and was actually on mobile Steam during the first 5 minutes orders went up, but my checkout wouldn't go through. Went home a few hours later and was more successful. Should get it the day before my Birthday ironically enough! 😄
You missed the point entirely and I have just ordered my 512GB Steam Deck yesterday (after over a year of waiting) and I WANT to have the Gen3x2 M.2 in it.
I am a member of the Glorious PCMR and I know for a fact that you wouldn't even notice a difference if there were an SSD in it instead of an M.2 in speed.
The only think I am concerned about with a device like the Steam Deck is the temp - and not just the temp when it is new, but the temp after it has had time to suck in some dust.
The Gen3x2 will create less heat than a x4 in use and that is a POSITIVE.
I wonder what will my after Q3 changes into next week...
I'm Q3 for the 256 GB model, but idk when I'll get my email. I ordered on June 17, so it might be a little on the later end of the spectrum.
I got my email back in early June. Sadly had to RMA the steam deck due to a boot issue that couldn't be fixed (at least not by me). But my replacement is officially on the way since yesterday!
So you never got to play it? Reminds me of when you eat a piece of food and before that you weren't really hungry you felt a little hunger but could wait now after that one bite you're freaking starving and salivating at the mouth.
Still waiting on my email..
It is a bad idea for many reasons to do the M.2 extension mod. Look at Game's Nexus' video on the temp, the charging IC is one of the hottest components.
But, a Valve employee saying its really bad doesn't mean much when Valve also said just opening the Steam Deck could kill you
Which Valve employee?
Yea I read about this and I looked at my Steam Deck SSD specs and notice it’s Kingston OM3PDP3512B-A01 which is Gen 3
I would love instructions to add this old school Doom game port.
I received my 512gb yesterday i have the e13 ssd so not all new decks have the slower one in them
A tutorial to set up Doom RPG would be great to see, more people should give it a try because it's a lot of fun.
It's coming. Probably Wednesday
DOOM RPG was one of the more advanced and more involved phone games back in the day, it had the usual doom tropes with finding keys to open doors, reading emails for clues and so on. But even so, it was better than most games at the time.
Reading emails?
I got the most expensive Steam deck reserved on the second day you could do reservations. I had been in the Q2 spot but was moved to Q3. Still no email to purchase. I feel like it is crazy that many people ordered on the first day that by early morning I would be closer to the back of the line. Ether way, still excited and hoping I get my email next week. I'm ready.
Joshua, I reserved on day 1's 2nd hour and was placed in the Q2 spot, but was also moved to Q3. I received my email to purchase last week. It is now arriving in a day. Just thought you might like to know. Good luck with yours!
@@machsaga5141 Thank you! That actually helps so much. Thank you!
I am in Q3 and have still not got an email by valve for my Steam Deck.
Of course you don't care about the downgrade Gardiner. You have already received the correct top tier spec for free (unlike people like me who have not received my 512GB version Gen 3 x4 yet and will not get what they have reserved). I'm sure the majority of people "would not mind" if they got their deck for free or at a reduced cost/discount (if they received the downgraded version).
But they don't give us that option. Steam Support stated and I quote from my e-mail: "We would recommend simply ignoring your invitation when the time comes and your deposit will be automatically refunded". They don't even tell you that the refund is added as Steam Wallet and not to your original payment method after 3 months. I made my reservation in October of last year, well over 3 month.
I decided to cancel as it is no longer the "fastest storage" - FYI false advertisement IMHO. And have selected for the 64GB to upgrade the SSD to either 512 GB PCIE Gen 3 x4 and still be a lot cheaper than what I previously reserved or 1TB PCIE Gen 3 x4 and still pay around the same price of the 512GB version.
Valve made me choose this route, not me.
Chill out, dude. Yes, Valve sent me a review unit for free. But guess what? I bought the unit I reserved at full price knowing full well I might get a gen 3x2 NMVe instead of the 3x4.
I don't care. Do you know why? Because valve says their extensive testing showed there was virtually no performance loss. And I trust their hardware team to know what they're doing.
Gen 3x4 versus 3x2 is a meaningless difference for all but linear transfer speeds. And games are *not* linear in their IOPS.
Ok, stopping the vid right there. NO, we are not complaining it doesn't have an uber screen and the fastest drive ever in it just because we want to complain about random things. We want what we were promised, not less. PERIOD. If you go into a fast food place and order a "bacon cheeseburger" and it has less then half a single skinny slice of "bacon" on it, you'd be disappointed. Why should this not be much worse for high priced electronics? Us Q3 folks don't want to have to buy a new drive and have to immediately mod the system just to get ORIGINALLY ADVERTISED LOAD SPEEDS!
Load speeds are unaffected. It's linear transfer speeds that are ever-so-slightly diminished.
Fact is, nobody noticed that this change had happened because it didn't impact real world gaming. And it means you'll get your Steam Deck sooner.
And if you're planning to upgrade your SSD right out of the box, then you should not be buying the 256 or 512 models.
If it were possible for the designers to use better or larger drives, I'm sure they would have done so.
Keyword is "almost" anyway so something is noticeable
I was reserved for Q3 and a few months ago it said Expected month was Sept, last month it changed to July-Sept and I just got my E-mail today😭😭😁
Is there any news about the Steam Deck in other countries? It sucks to always be the last to get the cool new tech
No
Still waiting for my email. Can not wait to get that bad boy in my hands
still not available in Australia 😢
I was hoping they upgrade the Battery at least.
Kioxia BG4 512gb. I already bought last year. 2230. $40. I'm getting the 64gb model and upgrading. Whoop de do. Also as long as its Gen3, x1 x2 or x4 is no difference. The steamdeck itself did not change, merely the included drive. So w/e not news
Stil waiting for the os for PC
Thirty minutes after Valve sent the Q3 tweet, I got the notification. I'm VERY excited.
Waiting for mine.
I received my 64 gig steam deck on Wednesday. It’s awesome 👏
As someone with the 32 GB Nvidia Shield which is pretty much a predecessor to the steam deck (a more open gaming system than the locked down stuff from Sony and Nintendo) I can tell you you're going to fill up that 64 gigs really fast if you can't figure out how to get an SD card working. All the videos I've seen make it look like it's way easier than the shield.
Big epic
@@bland9876 i have one of those, its a great device and the storage reallydoes fill up quickly
@@bland9876 just upgrade the SSD
awefully convenient coming from someone who was handed a steam deck -_-
...and someone who just bought one for himself. Which I literally said in the video.
That's right. I love the Steam Deck so much that I bought my reservation. So what does that do for your little "convenient" theory?
Stardew Valley Video was the first video of yours i watched. Have been following you since then.
I have Q3 but I have not received any email yet.
DoomRPG on Steam Deck tutorial please! ^.^
Just ordered my steam deck, very excited
Wonder what my luck will be
Tbh should be a bit cheaper but anyways, empirically NVMes had always had 0.5 second difference, mine on my desktop is still faster than the PS5 and loads GTA 5 faster but it's barely noticeable
I am in the Semiconductor industry and understand about chip shortage. But to slide in a change to the initial spec to me is a bit shady. Where is the data to prove there is no real difference. I know more Steam decks can be delivered. I want the Steam deck to thrive and continue to be the game changer. You do walk that fine line on making subtle changes to get decks out but at the same time brings the question what else could be changed. Just be straight with the customer that are drooling to get their steam deck. If you sacrifice quality just to make a buck that is not good for the customer.
just got my q3 reservation! so excited
Love the content as always! ❤🙌
I'm at q3 july-sep I didn't got email 😪 man...
Yes I got my reservation Yes I paid can't wait to see how long it takes to get here
"Like the Smash button" is Michael Tunnels line...
I don't have much money so I will stick with my Linx Vision 8 gaming PC. I wanted the new TMNT but it needs 64 and the Linx is 32. I will just get it on the Switch I guess. Oh well ☹.
Going back and forth...got my email just can't bring myself to buy the deck, ugh. Not sure I would use it enough....
lol
Q3 still waiting here 😭
Im an OG!! Been here for a long time