'Afraid for Her Life': Mica Miller's cause of death revealed?
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- STORY: Newly obtained documents show #MicaMiller was "afraid for her life" before her body was found in a North Carolina state park. Her husband, a pastor who was recently let go by his church, says Mica took her own life -- a claim the family refuses to believe.
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Did y'all look into the pastors girlfriend? She was married to a man that suddenly drown 2 yrs ago. The pastor did his funeral service. He was dating her while still with Micca. You can't tell me there's nothing suspicious with the girlfriends husband's death and now micca. Also dig into the pastor's dad. He has a really messed up past.
Reminds me of the Lori & Chad case
This one is disqualified for being a pastor if this is true.
Yes he was disabled too
You can’t make this stuff up
and no one was teir to even see on a labor day weekend?
I've been a victim of domestic violence
If she said she was afraid. She did not take her own life
One is in self-preservation mode, not self-destruction mode.
@1chiMom68 same with me I'm a victim of domestic violence I'm greatful I got out alive she deff didn't take her own life
Not always true
@@kristenbeauregard2949are you a professional
Same here!
Since she was afraid for her life,she is not going to kill herself!
Right
Right
Right
EXCELLENT POINT!
Correct!
Not to mention, the way he announced her death the morning after was incredibly insensitive to his congregation. 😡😡😡 The people there obviously loved her. What a flaming douche jerk.
59:15 Roberson co. Sheriff office Instructions
none of them helped her though did they
Walk out quietly and speak not if this ... Ay ay sir🫡🫡🫡🙄🙄🙄😒😒 Narc.
Well,,, he’s done now,,, it will not be soon forgotten how he spoke of her,, almost like “ revenge” on her, telling personal
Private information to a whole congregation, one that was “ filmed “
And knew it. I agree. What a jerk.
@@laurajurgeleit8655 we do
Not know that.
"Keep her family in your prayers." He doesn't say, "Keep our family in your prayers." Let that sink in.
I didn't hear that, i thought he said ours or the family
@donstevensii7293 He said, "Keep her family in your prayers." It's at the end of his quoted statement. Vid says -57 minutes, of 1:07:59. So, around the 11-12 minute mark?
I was shocked he didn’t ask for prayers for Mica.
Yeah I noticed that right away. Creepy.
Did they check Mica's hands for gunpowder?
No. He is an abuser. He is an abuser. Preached a sermon. Told the congregation after sermon. Abuser blaming his victim. Classic
59:15 Roberson co. Sheriff office Instructions
Right I hope he's charged he had a reason to kill her she was going to take half or more than everything. I'm just glad her sister and brother will still get her share for her children when they become of age.
@@rvingkeepitrolling8797 she didn’t have kids
@@rvingkeepitrolling8797That is all you all think about. He killed her because he is a psycho!
@@rachelburton8689 oh I thought it was said they did.
The Bible speaks of False Preachers. I'm sure, He is One of them.
People should be DONE with these pastors
Definitely
The devil knew the bible well too. I always remind people of that.
The Bible makes a lot of claims, and few of them are true.
Sure does! Reference John 10
Even the devil knows Scripture. This guy is a charlatan and all his lies will be exposed eventually. My condolences to Mica's family. I'm so sorry for your loss.
Facts! Best comment
Yes, he will be exposed
@whiteroses47 Wow, your post gives me chills. 💯… even the devil knows scripture 🫣 so true!!
Lundy Bancroft said that the biggest predictor of which abuser will unalive their partner is NOT how violent they are, but how CONTROLLING they are.
In my experience, that is correct. Violence is one facet of the abuse that is used to keep control.
True 100%
yes!!
That is truly terrifying 😧
That fool is only fooling himself. He's guilty as sin
Damn, this fool would have been convicted in court if it wasn't for the 911 call the wife made about going to kill herself. Over 90 percent of the comments are convinced he killed her but the 911 call she made says she killed herself.
Agree
She bought the gun for protection from her husband aka a Pastor. What's up with all these Pastor committing adultry murdering their wives
For insurance & to be with their lovers.
Agreed
Guilty that she shot herself? Sure. Sure.
A pastor who is married has a girlfriend???
Many
One was interviewed yesterday he’d just met her at her work ( restaurant) and put his phone number on the check. She texted him and he asked her to send him pics. He’s s cheater.
It wasn’t mental illness. It was mental abuse.
Shocker right!?!?!
He and Mica were separated.
I DO NOT believe her husband’s lies and explanation.
Me neither 😭
Me neither...
It was a bear.
No one does
Do you believe the 911 call that she made and said she was going to kill herself?
Who drives 70 miles to commit su*cide?! If she took her own life, which i don't believe she did, but if so his lack of care and empathy for someone he once loved, and being a pastor, is disgusting, he's a narcissist and a bully and doesn't even try to hide it. Also, why would she ask for an order of protection then turn around and unalive herself the following day?! the math ISN'T mathing!
Yes, I was thinking Narcissist too. All behaviors, attitudes, lack of empathy...yup
They don't or they would probably change their mind by then..
it's called Bipolar, genius. you guys are hilarious how not even knowing basic facts sends you around thinking that you have solved all of Einstein's equations with the snap of your finger. smarten up kiddo.
The way he made the announcement to his congregation was despicable and disgusting. It shows his level of depravity and selfishness! I have no doubt she didn’t commit suicide.
He also told his church. Instead of preaching he telling them stories about their marriage
I agree
I agree his statement was very odd , but have you ever lived with a Bi Polor Narcissist ? I have and do and I feel sorry for Pastor and understand the Pastors Words
@@billywilson8526This pastor is the malignant narcissist not his poor dead wife..
Wired he’s guilty.
They need to get a second autopsy report.
I think he had her cremated
@@jessicajones6325he did
He covered it up fast
The corrupt police ordered no autopsy and handed her body over to the abuser. He cremated her.
He rushed to have her cremated
He had her cremated. He made her parents sign a paper that she could be cremated before he let them see her body. He’s a real piece of 💩
The pastor put that tracker on her car. That indicates to me that he was very controlling. Who else would want to know her every move?
The husband used tracker + [ premeditated ] to unalive her, period....
Maybe a stalker , maybe it was installed my the car company so they can locate the car if payments not made.
A bear
@@americanpie1961 Unalive? 🫤 Do you mean kill or murder?
@@elizabethdickerson1136he has already admitted to installing the tracker himself
Why would she serve him divorce papers if she was just gonna take her life anyways? He forced her to make that call.
AI call
it was not her
How ironic once she made it public she was afraid for her life. All of a sudden she is found DEAD! That should speak volumes to the police department!
With enough money and power, the police dept and or da may never investigate. Folks don't understand how corrupt and compromised our judicial system is at this point
They are bought and paid for by John Paul. They didn't arrest him for the extreme stalking and harrasment. They refused her a pfa. They didn't request autopsy. And they handed over her body to J.P. for cremation. These police need a deep look into. Corrupt and paid for.
Most women don’t use a gun to commit suicide; it’s hanging or meditating oneself. I know 2 women and they committed suicide by hanging. Both were single. Obviously the marriage was in trouble and they were separated. Why was he using a tracking device. He wanted to shut her up for many reasons. Domestic violence and emotional abuse is just as bad. RIP Mica❤
@@Angellight-wt3btExactly. I heard an FBI agent speak about the difference between women & men even in suicide. She said that men use a gun a lot times, & you can see how the deep depression had been going on for awhile because the home is messy, dirty dishes everywhere with old, rotten food on the plates where they were just too depressed to do anything. On the other hand, women choose a clean method or the make the method easy for others to clean up, meaning that women who slit their wrists do it in the bathtub so the police can just pull the plug & everything will go down the drain or they take pills & just lie down on their bed or a couch. As soon as I heard that, I thought that’s so on point for how men & women are so different. It seems like every female suicide by gun that I’ve heard of from crime shows turned out to be murder by the husband that was staged as suicide.
JP MILLER MUST BE INVESTIGATED! JP MILLER MUST BE INVESTIGATED! JP MILLER MUST BE INVESTIGATED! JP MILLER MUST BE INVESTIGATED!
BEARS MUST BE INVESTIGATED!
@@VishusVenom No, they are fine.
@@makt122 It’s too bad this woman trusted bears in the woods instead of a man… it ultimately caused her to unalive herself.
@@VishusVenom there were no bears.
@@makt122 You were there? Maybe you should be investigated.
I think we ALL know what happened to Mica…. Including the police, but now we have to pray the police can prove what really happened to her.
No
@@rachelburton8689so how are you related to the accused?
@@RlRdHd lmao..I don’t even know him..I’m not the one to judge him..that’s gods job
@@rachelburton8689We are to hold the criminal accountable for their actions. GOD will judge the SOUL. Get real...🤦♀️
@@rachelburton8689The word of GOD even tells us to send murderers and rapists to HIM (Where their victims are) and THESE THINGS WOULD CEASE TO HAPPEN AMONG US!! Stop with the self righteous attitude it turns people away from GOD instead of bringing them to GOD.
She was murdered by her husband.
He drove her into doing what she did. He forced her to kill herself.
I got out of an abusive marriage at the 3 year point. I
Left my home with just my animals. He kept one cat from me, and my clothing. Lured me back, saying I could pick up my cat and my clothes. But had a gun and said that would be the day he killed me then himself. He NEVER took a day off from work. But chose that day, to stay home, to kill me, himself, ,,, showed me the gun. I did not know Gid at that time but found myself praying to Him. He told me in my mind what to do,,,, and He MADE A WAY IF ESCAPE,,,, what followed was not easy. Lawyers, me asking my Mom to take me in,,, it was the beginning of my coming to God forever,, and ever,,,, I still look over my shoulder. It was over 30 yrs ago.
How did you get out of the situation that day?
Yea how you get out?
@@samanthalake5011 when I saw the gun he pointed to on the counter,, we had a beautiful new home with a long tile counter like a sitting bar, other side of the kitchen. Showed me the gun. Told me to take off my clothes. I said “ Bill, I left my keys in the car, can I get them,,,” I was praying “ God help me, please please help me get away,,, “ God told me to get in the car,,, DRIVE AWAY FAST,, I did.
Straight home to the duplex I had rented. Called my Mom. My beautiful Mom said “get the dogs, and what you need , I’m coming to get you. “. She did.
He showed up at my Moms that night. She talked to him thru the door saying “ I’m calling the police Bill, get the hell out of here”!!! He did,,, she worked for the public Defenders office, and knew what to do. There was a feeling of PROTECTION ALL AROUND ME,,, and I could not explain it any way other than God heard me.
@@jennifermartin5961 see my reply,,, as another person asked and I answered. Kind of long.
Wow what a beautiful amazing testimony. Encouraged me greatly thanks for sharing. I'm so glad you did not perish at the hands of that maniac and instead into the arms of our savior Jesus King of all!
No I don't believe anything he says. He was a bully to his beautiful wife.
Any good husband wouldn't make excuses about "getting needed medicine to his wife." If that was the case. Everythg about this screams red flag!!The Lord brings everything to light. Vengeance is the Lord's, IJN. ❤AMEN 🙏
He may not of pulled the trigger but his abuse, cheating and accusations towards her are deeply disturbing. Coercive control from the Beast of a pastor.
My gut tells me if he didn't pull the trigger, he was responsible for her struggles. His girlfriend should fear involvement with him. He is already assigning his second divorce to Mica's mental health struggles. I assure you Mica was abused and suffered from PTSD. Her family and friends know the real story about her marriage.
The girlfriend's husband died a suspicious death she probably helped him.
@@rvingkeepitrolling8797seriously
@@rvingkeepitrolling8797Birds of a feather flock together. Whoa
Bear did it.
So as a man of God he wants to divorce/abandon his wife because she has mental health issues? Didn’t he vow before God to love and honor his wife in sickness and health?
An innocent man would have never been able to go to work the next morning and preach a whole sermon and causially mention wifes death at the end! Thats the moves of a callous, guilty man attempting to manage damage control after the fact! He such a Narc that he cant even see how poposterous that looks!
Her husband is narcissistic!! He was abusive, verbally, emotionally, mentally and used his “Pastor” as a mask to taunt her and stress her as much as he could to get to leave him, because he wanted other women in his life!! He made her out to be a mental case!! I had an ex like him. It’s no wonder she would have problems mentally!! I had 2 breakdowns because of the constant abuse I lived with. He killed her..
Yes Kathleen, that is exactly what I thought...😮 I also was married to a narcissist and had a breakdown in 2016.😊
Me too! I escaped narrowly, but lost my kids forever. No one assists us - the police say they can’t do anything unless there is clear evidence against someone. Well, we can’t call for help if we are dead! Absolutely horrific! Survivors of this abuse is always detrimental and the suffering is immeasurable. PTSD for life.
I was with a narcissist and suffered mental, verbal and physical abuse. I made it out 🙏 However, he's incapable of letting me live in peace. These individuals are mentally ill. To the outside world, they are kind, sweet, helpful etc. Narcissists are master manipulators! It's so sad, Mica didn't see another way out 😢
Please STOP judging a man whom you liken to your husband !!! There us no justice system anywhere in the Western world that operates under such a fallacy !!!!
THIS CASE is NOT your past marriage and therefore can NOT be held up as justice. Too many women (in particular) are inserting THEIR past relationships into this case !!! It must stop.
@@heatherclayton-callaghan4270thats because those of us who have endured narcissistic abuse have learned that its an M.O that follows a particular playbook, and we are SEEING in this situation the earmarks that we’ve come to know very very well. The ladies on this thread who are drawing comparisons have been through hell, so if you cannot relate, stop right now and thank God that you have NO IDEA what it feels like to be emotionally and psychologically abused by a man who is capable of driving you to suicide or killing you himself. Its real. So just sit back and pray the truth of this situation comes out so that there will be no more speculation, but be very careful not to berate the women who have earned their degrees in “narcology” through the school of hard knocks because you have no clue what they’ve endured.
Her husband's comments about Mica being mentally ill is placing blame on her, while gaslighting, and painting her with a specific brush in attempt to take focus off his bad behavior resulting in emotional psychological abuse
Something for investigating agents to determine, def NOT you nor any members of the public or media !!!
Absolutely. Typical narcissist
If she had mental issues, he was the cause. It’s pretty clear he is a violent narcissist. He was 19 years old and ran over a woman two times.
Those typer ALWAYS claim you’re crazy! That’s part of their game - I’ve dealt with this type several times in my life.
Justice for Mica 🙏🏼
He revealed so much of his behavior just by his demeanor at church.
This is such a disasrer, Her evil husband needs to be charged.
59:15 Roberson co. Sheriff office Instructions
Need proof
@@rachelburton8689give it time.....
@@RlRdHd not my place to judge him
You need to be charged with willfully being a moron!
I don’t believe it … I feel sure that her husband had a role in her death.
5 thousand percent!!!
Or a bear.
Absolutely believe it was DV Murder. 💯
59:15 Roberson co. Sheriff office Instructions
Proof
It wasn’t.. she did it herself
It wasn’t. A bear did it.
Says a biased women, her 911 call says otherwise.
He should have had someone replace him at church and that person announce it to the church people. That was so strange
But he had to get HIS narrative out to the people
@@KeepSmyelin321exactly 💯
Not normal at all, wondering if JP ran the whole ship or if there were church elders. If Mica has been chronically suffering for some time, seems like a lack of overseers or ppl coming alongside to keep the pastor accountable, or if everything to do with the running of the church was done behind closed doors 😣
The police scanner tapes say the gun was found in the seat of the car, but her body was in the river. I'll never believe that this was self-inflicted
Something is wrong with the lack of investigation !
The box of ammunition and run was on the front seat. The run was found in the water as well
@@deniseganey6890do you mean round? Were found in the water? that’s weird.
When you commit a murder there’s ALWAYS something left behind to point at him.
Like was the gun left in the car but her body was found in the river???
What, she shot her self then ran to put the gun back in the car then ran back in the river and said oh yea I’m dead??
I cannot imagine the fear she felt she must of prayed very hard I’m so happy to see the public and everyone else trying to get justice for Mica ❤️🩹
So I heard her gun was in the water. Someone killed her for sure. She would have no reason to go into the water !
99% of the time it’s the spouse, the ex, the boyfriend, not rocket science
Why would his church release him as pastor unless they believed something wasn’t kosher about the details
Publicity
He’s also dating another woman while married. Not fit to be a pastor on those grounds alone.
Because Kosher is not catholic
“Mica stated to me on many occasions, ‘If I end up with a bullet in my head, it was JP,'” Mica’s sister, Sierra Francis, said in an affidavit asking to be named the special administrator of Mica’s estate. “JP” refers to Mica’s husband, John-Paul Miller, a senior pastor at the Solid Rock Church in Market Common.
I will NEVER attend one of these big churches. They love the money. They are in it for the money. Give me a small church who genuinely care about the lost any day of the week. It’s scandal after scandal at these places. It seems like they are all for show. Like a performance of some kind.
I read comment of former member. Once new place built members told to sign and stay at least a year. They'd already lost 3/4 of membership B4 bldg
@ Listening-Lynnie WOW! That’s crazy. Not a good sign for sure.
And so tge sister and family didn't take it seriously then ??? No one DID anything to remove her from such a LIFE-THREATENING SITUATION ????
All too happy to come out now shes dead and try to exact justice !!!!
If it was so deadly BEFORE she died WHY did NO ONE , not even a sister who was told this repeatedly ???? What a damn lousy sister to have. You simply left her there to die and now want to cry out for justice !!!!
Not only do you not know Jesus Christ, you didn't even love your sister enough to insist dhe be removed from danger.
All sounds waaaay to concocted to me. Christ ALWAYS has ancanswer if you truly know Him and seek His plan & purpose. Too many of you expect Godvto miraculously change your situations instead of doing it the way HE Ordains in His WORD the Bible. It's not God's fault you're all too lazy to honour ,obey. And serve Him. You're all too busy telling God how to do His job, instead of serving Him , reading His Word, learning His ways. Seeking His plan and purpose for your life and your loved ones. The Anerican Church is based on manmade religion. NOT GOD ALMIGHT the I AM !!!!!
Your vo.ment is very one-sided.
As a person whose best friend WASMURDERED BY HER HUSBAND, and abused for years before that I can tell you, in no uncertain terms that if someone like Mica refuses to leave, (and that happens a LOT) You cannot FORCE them to leave. He had threatened to kill me, if I ever confronted him a 2nd time about the abuse he was doing to her. We were closest friends fir 6vyears. We worked together every single day. And when not working on weekends, spent time together going to yard sales, thrift shops, craft shows, etc.,
The man had a reputation of violence, not just his wife, but younger men, that worked with him, or for him, In the logging industry.
She went to their Church elders to try and get him to stop. She went to his family. Nothing Mattered. Nothing! She TRULY believed that when he finally snapped completely, he would make good on the death threats to me as well as anyone else he had threatened.
The night he murdered her ( with a framing hammer & a hatchet, he was out of town, in another state, 3 hours away. He drugged their daughter, put her in his truck, and drove like crazy back here visciously killed her, and then turned around and drive like hell back to motel where all of his workers ( and him) stayed while clearing and loading logs for that particular job.
We BEGGED HER, over & over to come stay with us that night,. He had her totally believing that nothing could stop him.
And what about the “ GIRLFRIEND “ ? He could be manipulating her too. This JP guy is definitely one huge walking red flag.
My thoughts are why he is distancing himself from his late wife, and referring to "her family" not "our family" as any normal family would do.
He doesn't want to be tied at all with what may have happened to her
This is why I don't like pastors or organized religion,. They lie and use religion to cover up their evil deeds,. There's still people that think this guy is still good,.
No way, she would end her life with her positive attitude and future plans to worship & continue to move about the issues she was passionate about!
He was let go by his church
Right. Like why would they let go of an innocent, grieving husband? What is happening!?
Well for one because he’s cheating. When he cheated on his first wife, got criminal charges when he groomed Mica he was let go and couldn’t be a pastor for three years . She was young. But we can only hope the church is smart enough to know what’s really going on besides cheating.
he was stealing money from the church
In UK a law was brought in against coercive control...making it a criminal offence. That's what US needs especially whilst this case is still in the spotlight. I find it really hard to think she did this to herself.
I am friends with her mom and I just still dont buy it. Was their gun powder on her hand, how was she positioned, where and when did she buy the gun. Her faith was so great and I cant see her taking her life that God gave her away. I just cant! Was there NO cameras around, cant they see her actually doing it as it was a park and many towns have cameras.
❤I agree I don’t believe she did that since she was in the water too it don’t make sense!
Please tell the mom & rest of Family my thoughts and Prayers are with them at this sad time.
I think he did it. Directly or indirectly.
Praying for her family and no I don’t even believe the call. He was possibly there and had her call. She obviously wasn’t alone. Imo I also heard the resolution in her voice. She was just defeated. Again imo Dv survivor here and sometimes death at an abusers hand just means it’s over. Mine almost killed me, he was a Christian counselor.
It's so sad she was not staying with family at this time .
Alot of state parks usually have what they call "fire cams." To keep an eye out for forest fires. IDK?
No I don't believe she did it to herself
The suspect is the husband/exhusband!!!!🔴👹🔴
A bear did it.
@@VishusVenomreported spammer
@@Jenahh-aye Reported dumba$$
If she really was hospitalized with mental health issues
she could have never passed a background check to
purchase a gun.
Self-inflicted gunshot wound? Yeah, right.
He was giving his number to other women and hitting on them right after her death. It is obvious she dealt with his lack of character for a long time.
No way she offed herself no way. Waiting for the spin tomorrow.
It was a bear.
Why not? It sounds like her husband was an awful husband and, sadly, she may have run out of hope. 😢 There’s a credible 911 call.
She was making happy plans for a new life! Haircut appointment, divorce papers served to JP and a new job! Suicidal people are not going around telling people they were afraid for her life. She could have been forced to make the 911 call by someone else threatening her maybe threatening to hurt her family, who knows?
She didn't do this to herself!!!!!!
I am friends with her mom, a few answers to these questions, yes he has a girl friend, her name was suzi. This girl had such big faith there is NO way she would take the life God gave her away, No way! I want to see receipts and video of her buying the gun…they always have that, and if she had a gun why did she never used it to protect herself before…?? Also, was their gun shot residue on her hand, how was she slouched, is their cameras around the area as it was a park…?? To see what happened. Another thing, most women do not use a gun to commit suicide, just saying. Mica was making plans, she got out and away from him, she was starting over, why commit suicide now…?? I absolutely do not believe it. I will see what her mom says after tomorrow!
You need to have her Mom get a private autopsy.
JLR Investigates has been on scene since Saturday and was invited to film and document the rally for Mica on Sunday and the beachside vigil. He also went to the park this morning and saw zero cameras! He has all of these videos on his TH-cam channel.
Prayers for the family
Rest in peace Mica!🙏🏻❤️Prayers and thoughs go to those who love her. 💔
The police didn’t name Chris Watts as their suspect or person of interest… even tho he was their prime suspect. They played to tight in order to get a confession from him. And it worked… we have seen this strategy many times.
Not saying that’s what’s happening here. Just that the fact there isn’t a named suspect doesn’t mean the police aren’t looking at a suspect.
Every sheriff, every police, all lawyers and judges need to wake up to thoroughly understand the issue of domestic abuse in this country! My abuser laughed when he received 1 night in jail back in 2017, yet I am still suffering from the injuries he inflicted upon me, still need treatments in my neck and back due to the violence he caused. And I found I was the third woman he had physically assaulted. I am blessed to have survived. GOD was with me that day. The abuse needs to STOP! Too many women are being hurt and killed by these horrible acts!
If you are being abused, please report it and get the help you need.
Mica's family and loved ones are in my thoughts and prayers!
I sure hope investigators can find all the information to prove her estranged husband is responsible. Sad that she couldn’t go her own way without losing her life. RIP Mica 💐
so he says she was bipolar, other personality disorder and taking lithium, he first met her when she was 14 and he was 28 something def sounds off
If you look at statistics- Women are more likely to take pills or something less violent if they do this. Only a very small percentage use a firearm. It will be interesting to hear the medical examiner's report. Something doesn't seem right here for sure.He (the husband) immediately blames her ? And who has adrenaline running through them after finding out a loved one has passed? I've never had that reaction.
This is actually not true. In the United States, firearms are the #1 method used in suicide DEATHS. Women often "try" less lethal ways to commit suicide, but in actual deaths by suicide, it's firearms, followed closely by poisoning, then suffocation. Here's a quote from page 21 of my book (Time Stood Still) regarding the latest statistics: "There were 3.9 male deaths by suicide for each female death by suicide, however, 3 females attempted suicide for every 1 suicide attempt by a male." Later on page 111 is the graph showing all of the statistics. I used to believe this also, but after losing my wife to suicide with a pistol and years of research into the subject afterwards, I learned this is not accurate.
@@ChadTaylorMusicsorry for your loss ❤
@@missbieber1211 Thank you. ❤
Please lock him up
…”pray for me and MY kids and everybody.” A genuinely loving and grieving spouse/father would have said, “OUR” kids or children. That statement alone speaks volumes. 😔
They didn't have kids together.
They had biological children together?
@@JessicaGuzman-yt3ee If she was involved in the children’s lives and cared or served them in any way, it would have been the honoring way to refer to them. But, there doesn’t appear to be anything honoring about this case where he is concerned.
Why didn't the dispatcher try to keep her on the phone until police arrived at her location?
This is my same story and still not free after 17 years. Since Mica I am sharing my story. There is no help for victims! My name is Meghann Miller
I was in the same situation for 16 years myself and then 10 more years after I escaped. Please try to disappear as soon as possible if you can. Get out when you can. Pray! Pray! 🙏
@@time4peace726 That is me! I left 10 years ago and proved all the abuse in court and have a decree that states he is an abuser, but he still keeps me in court cause we have 5 kids together. He uses the court system to harasses me and also still stalking me
My husband is a pastor. He is admired and respected in the community. The mental abuse is awful. I have put all my stuff in storage. I went to San Francisco and Puerto Rico to get away. He told me to kill myself, and went to get the pistol from the safe. He has called around to figure out how he can have me committed….then he love bombs me saying I’m the most beautiful woman in the world and he can’t live without me. On and off like a light switch. He held a tree trimmer to my face, turned it on, and yelled profanities at me last night. I just sat there and ignored him.
Make a plan of escape. But get out and don't let him know anything ahead of time.
Uuugh that's horrible. I'm so sorry you're going through that. Please make a plan to get out! It only gets worse, sadly.
To bad you couldn't secretly record him acting that way and expose him to his peers. Probably would cause more trouble though. Is there anyone that can help you?
Get out and don't look back.
Get out safely! One of the first things my counselor told me when I got out of my marriage was that I was lucky I got out as most women aren't as lucky . It didn't really hit me until years later what she was actually saying.
Please get out of there when he is not looking. Create a new identity if you need to. Please know that just because he is a pastor in no way means he follows God. His actions are evil. Be smart and be safe. 🙏🏻
Husband says "self induced" to me he is saying, her behaviour caused this
Self induced = brought about by oneself
Versus
Self inflicted =iinflicted injuries by self
soooo true that's exactly what a manipulative abuser (particularly one with a cluster b personality disorder) would say, because it makes it easier for them to appear truthful while saying it because he knows he believes what he is saying, and thinks he's tricked everyone else
I’ve been pointing that out for the last few days. Those words have totally different meanings. A lord of ppl just thought he misspoke, he said exactly what he meant. He’s just a classic narcissist and thinks he’s smarter than everyone. A lot of ppl didn’t catch that, I caught it and thought it was a very strange word choice
Freudian slips all day
I really don't think he was grieving. What we do know is he abused her and she was afraid of him. You guy's seem like you're sugar coating this.
Yeah, adrenaline has never been a part of any grieving process I have ever gone through and I have been in that exact position of losing a spouse I was separated from.
If any spouse of a man/woman of the cloth... Dies in a suspicious manner... There should be a news conference
Why in the park she die??? 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️why not at her house?? 🤔🤔🤔🤔 I just don’t get it !!! Don’t make sense the cause of death 💀 something fishy is here!
And not a local park, but an hour away.
May we show justice for her family and send out prayers for them.
55:26 very true JB. We as Christians in my opinion, we need to be cautious about spreading our negative opinions and negative gossip. It can hurt people whether true or false. We can think before you speak. Before you repeat something you’ve heard about another person, think: does this really do any good for me to spread this information? Or am I just trying to be in the know? Is the information even true? Could I be hurting someone by telling this, even if it’s true? If the person or group you are talking to is not part of the problem, or part of the solution, there’s no need to tell them anything.
59:16 Roberson co. Sheriff office Instructions
They need to find the connection between the medical examiner and the family
Exactly does he go to that church
The church is in SC and the medical examiner is in NC because she died in NC so NC has jurisdiction and they are handling the investigation. So there is NO way they have any “SC sway” over here in NC….we have our own way of dealing with DV issues so if it’s related to DV they’ll make sure they issue the information accordingly
I do not believe the story from Mica’s husband.
I’m confused how he knew the cause of dead not even 24 hours after she passed if he didn’t pay someone off or do it himself. It takes time for medical examiners to get the cause of death and there’s no way you would know the night of. It just seems like a set up to me. So sus I don’t believe it. She’s so beautiful inside and out she deserves sm better 😢 JUSTICE FOR MICA💜
The medical examiner was paid off.. has to be major corruption.. he wasn't the ME on call but went in any way.. why?
@@Hx3ney a lot of us are thinking the same thing…something isn’t right here.
@@Faye786 My comment was deleted I guess. I don't even remember what I said but apparently I needed to be censored 🙄😒
@@Hx3neyhappens alot lately...
Him saying, “ it’s self induced “, is crazy!!! He didn’t even word it correctly!! He should have said “inflicted “. He is so smooth. It might be said that the medical examiner said it was self inflicted, but, they need to get second opinion!! I hope the family gets second opinion… they need to do!!
This is very simple.. have the phone records of JP subpoenaed! That’s what brought down Lori Vallow and Chad Dabell.. I guarantee they will find him and his girlfriend at the scene of her husband’s accidental drowning as well
And a few of the news sites say that she had a tracking device on her car someone should find out who put it there?? And if her estranged husband should be fired from his job immediately!! And He should be arrested. And be put in Prison!!
Watch the video completely
There needs to be a larger investigation that needs to be done over this whole situation. The police may need to reopen the case of his girlfriend’s husband’s death as well.
I hope that “Pastor” is fired forever. He is the wolf wearing sheep clothing.
Red flags the (to be ex) husband had tons of them! The whole Miller family has tons of skeletons.
He has a history of abusive and controlling behavior. Even if she did take her life, how do we know he didn't force her to do it by threatening their kids? We may never know, but I truly hope that if he is involved, justice will be served.
This is exactly what I was wondering but I cant find out anything about children in this marriage so far. Can you enlighten me? My experience included statements such as "As long as you don't do anything to make me mad, nothing will happen to David." I was a hostage for many, many years. Mothers do what they have to do in order to protect their child!
*IF* she took her own life, it sounds like he drive her to it. And did I read right earlier that she was 14 and he was 29 when they started their relationship? wtf?! Wth is a grown man doing persuing a young teen?! Why did she date a 29yo man at 14?! All of this is bizarre. He abused her for years and nobody stepped in? Why didn’t her brother and sister step in when she was a 14yo and call the police?! Why did the church allow this predatory abuser continue there?
I'm thinking if the majority of us who is not buying Mica self induced by her own free will, then there has to be some detectives who are on the case isn't buying it either. Mica left hints and info behind that says she didn't unalive herself, I hope her voice isn't being disregarded without investigating everything she has left behind for the LE to look into.
Husband did it. Using a firearm to commit suicide is such a violent way to end your life and I just don't see her doing that.
Being married to him would make you crazy
She is Beautiful ❤️. Another Beautiful Woman gone 🌹 Praying 🙏 for her and her Family 💞 God Bless You 🙏💞
She told her sister if she ends up with a bullet in her head that the husband did it. That makes me think he threatened her by saying he was going to put a bullet in her head. Anyone who puts a tracker on their wife’s car… She sounds controlling.
IMO father in law and husbands girlfriend are sus
Especially since her husband died also. That story makes no sense either. I don’t know anything about the father in law. What’s up with him?
If she was as religious as it seems she would know self inflicted would be a sin. Do I believe that she did this on her own no I Do Not.
To me "self induced" could have been totally deliberate if you look at the context of Mica's videos and statements to police. "Self induced" to me means "she caused what happened to her even if she didn't actually pull the trigger". Like as an abuser he could lie while looking like he was telling the truth. "Self inflicted" means she actually did the action that caused her immediate death.
If this man was abusing his wife or if he was having an affair as I heard but do not know to be true … my opinion is he is still directly responsible for her death, whether she or he pulled trigger.
He was doing what he is accused of.
My mom was married to a pastor who abused her left bruises on her, bit her! I saw the bite marks on her chest and tried to save her. I buried her a couple years later! If a person no matter what occupation they hold shows you who they are believe them! Get out as soon as possible, don't end up leaving this world because someone says they love you while they beat you behind closed doors! Once anyone man or woman crosses the line of abusing someone they claim to love the abuse victims time on this earth is limited! The abuser will go one step to far, they will take your life it will leave pain for all of your family and friends and they will be devastated because they couldn't get you to leave! Don't let your legacy be trauma that can never heal!
JLR Investigates, who traveled from Florida, by request, to attend, film and report on Mica’s rally and her beachside vigil. He has all of the true and latest news about this saddening case.
Love JLR
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He’s such a hard worker! I don’t know how he gets all of that energy!
Has this church allowed this monster to stay in ministerial position?
He was fired.
in•duce | in'doos | verb
1. succeed in persuading or influencing (someone) to do something
Self-induced means basically “she had it coming”. And with all the other evidence and statements from her friends, family, and the congregation… it seems like a hit-for-hire.
He has been served papers!
She might have pulled the trigger, but he controled her energy! Pastors know about spiritual warfare, and the first to use it on people they dont like!
Rachel says, he is a grieving husband?? Again, you know nothing of the case! He has had many affairs and has a mistress right now that he has been all over town with her! Get with it ma’am!
That church is full of idiots if that's true. One girlfriend and he should be removed and NEVER be allowed to preach anywhere again, period.
Well they have to be careful saying stuff or they could be sued..
Yes so filled with grief that he was seen in a local bar, an hour after her service, drinking & laughing😮 the bartender called him out & posted the dated/time stamped receipt signed by him 🤦♀️ 😡
This is so sad. Such a beautiful young woman. I hope we find out the truth and sending prayers to her family and friends!!!!
Gosh. She was quite beautiful. 😢
Since when are people qualified to diagnose their families as being.. mentally challenged or unstable?
I think the family needs to get another opinion from a second medical examiner along with a full investigation of where all persons of interest were at the time of her death. Also the police didn't come forward in unison with the medical examiner. I find it very strange that the medical examiner put out information on their own. Thank you for being very careful about how you present this tragic case.