As the last veterans of WWII leave us, it is important for content like this to convey the immense scope and slaughter of the near-apocalypse that was that war. To forget, is to soon repeat, and we now live in a world where that means almost certain doom.
There was quite a bit of trade between Japan and Germany mainly until they lost ports in France. Some Japanese visited mainland Europe as well, mark Felton has a video about that. The Japanese would bring raw materials for finished products. The Germans gave them enigma machines too but the Japanese didn't want them thinking they had been broken.
This channel literally just uses prewritten articles without verifying details, I've caught SOOOOO many mistakes in the "Dark" channels, Mark Felton is better
This video is yet another piss poor research display This is a Victory ship, not a liberty ship (none of which came to Australia) This ship was sunk nowhere near Jervis Bay Commonwealth Area (it was much further South) U boats weren't that uncommon in Australian waters
I can verify that a German U boat was in Australian waters, as a young apprentice at an aluminum smelter i struck up a conversation with an old German electrician named Athol. I asked him what brought him to Tasmania he told me he was on a U boat in the second world war and running short of food supplies they slaughtered a steer off Flinders island ( they apparently left money to compensate the farmer) He said that it was the best meat he had ever eaten and he swore if he ever had the chance he would come back here as the food was so good, the rest is history , this video verifies his story. PS I am using my wife's login for this comment as I don't have one
My workmates father was on the Eastern front. What stopped the Russian attack was they couldn't climb over their own dead. Plenty of Germans here in Australia.
U-826 went around New Zealand and surfaced off the coast of the small seaside town of Napier on the East Coast of the North Island. Diary entires from one of the sailors told that they got prepared to fire upon the town but decided not to after seeing people roller skating and singing on the shore through binoculars. New Zealand never knew how close they got to being attacked on home soil until years after the war ended.
@@Frank-dv3st This was not unusual. German submarines sailed up the St. Lawrence River all the way to Quebec City, and never fired on the civilians. One story I was told was that the German seamen even went to movie houses in that city.
@@BasementEngineer Well the one documented case is that the person who went ashore was a spy, but he never left New Carlisle, which is out in the gulf. He only went to a hotel room and then tried to take a train out, but was arrested at the station. So he was detected by a mere hotel worker and arrested within three hours, despite being a spy on the espionage mission.
The bravest US servicemen of WWII were in the Merchant Marine. They were focused targets with little self protection who had little chance of survival once hit. They had higher casualty rates than any of the military service branches of the US at the time.
They also have the highest rate if warcrimes committed as well.... Shouldn't be honouring people who refused to help survivors of sinking and even shot at them in the water 😑
@@richardcostello360 the captains of the ships were instructed not to stop for survivors, if the ship stopped it was an easy target. My uncle was a crewman on a ship in PQ17, the Lost Convoy, 33 ships departed for Mermask 22 were sank by NAZI U- Boats, aircraft and ships. If the other ships would have followed instructions the 11 ships that completed the run would have been a lot less. My uncle was rescued by the Russian Navy, a friend of mine was rescued by a Norwegian captain who didn’t follow instructions. Luckily, his second ship wasn’t sank too. As far as shooting people in the water I never heard that one before, because most of the people they encountered in the water were fellow Merchant Marine Seamen or seamen from allied ships. The US Navy suppled the gun crews on American Merchant Marine ships.
@@hitoshisawa8479 Keep in mind bullets become essentially useless almost immediately after entering water since they lose all velocity and momentum due to the water's density
@@zanger4002 They probably exploded upon impact with the water. It may have only needed to create a Shockwave to detonate the torpedo but. This is all speculation of course.
Wonderful video... I grew up in the Bay area and lived for many years in the houseboat community of Sausalito, California. Liberty ships were built also along the whole waterfront of Sausalito. The army corps of engineers facility in Sausalito has wonderful documentation and pictures of the era of the liberty ships Being Built-in Sausalito..
They were utter garbage and had a major issue of snapping in half 😑 How you Yanks managed to get them across the Atlantic is surprising.... meanwhile the journey down to Australia (where our dockworkers saw the design and fixed it for trans oceanic journeying)
The Oerlikon 20mm Antiaircraft Cannon was a hell of a gun. It was pretty much used by everyone that had a navy in WW2. it fired 20 mm high explosive rounds at a pretty fast pace. If you needed to blow up a torpedo coming at your ship, this would be the gun to use for sure. I am a bit surprised that this did not happen more often. If you had one of these on deck today, you could blow up anything a pirate was using to come at your ship.
@@jw451 Yup, no doubt about that. It was a great gun. Everybody used them. I read somewhere that something like 30% of Japanese planes shot down were shot down by the 20 mm Oerlikon gun in WW2
@@apis_aculei I don't disagree, but some torpedoes did travel close to the surface. It just seems mathematically that there is no way this only happened one time, during the entire war. These things had a drum with 58 rounds of high explosive AA rounds. that has to affect the fuse mechanism if you get enough of them to go off right around the nose of the torpedo.
The main problem is most of the guns don’t point below the deck line which quite severely affects the movement and therefore the defensive capabilities of the gun. I hope this major flaw has been sorted with all of todays modern techniques n technologies we should be able to point a gun straight down the side of a ship!!!!!
Thanks for the great videos, I've watched a ton of your content and I appreciate the amount of info you stuff into 10 minutes. Hope you, and your team I assume, are well!
The "SS Cities Service Boston", a 9,348 tons oil tanker, ran aground at Bass Point in New South Wales in a bad storm on 16 May 1943. "SS Cities Service Boston" had been in convoy PG50 four days earlier, when the convoy was attacked by Japanese submarine I-180. Approximately thirty soldiers of the Australian Army's Sixth Machine Gun Battalion who were camped nearby at Kembla Grange were sent to rescue the crew of the ship. The soldiers assisted with rescuing the 62 American crew members, but unfortunately four men from the 6th Machine Gun Battalion lost their lives when ten soldiers were swept off the rocks in the wild seas. The soldiers had unsuccessfully tried to build a temporary flying fox to the stricken vessel.
My dad (born1924) told me about tanker ships assembled with concrete. Since petroleum products are generally lower density than water, they weren't under much stress (in normal seas) and many were sold and continued to be used for decades after WW2 ended under the flag of Liberia or other nations with very lax standards that appreciated the revenue (but every shipwreck near a Spanish beach or wherever would cost more than a thousand successful crossings brought in).
My grandfather help build Liberty ships in world war II he was too young for world war I and he was too old for world war II so he built Liberty ships. He said that was his contribution to the war effort.
Nice! My grandfather was too old for war but still built Liberty ships. At the end of 44 they basically fired him to keep him from working himself to death. He opened a gas station and drank more beer than sold gas from what I am told.............but, in about 2000 my aunts company was hired to clean out a warehouse full of file cabinets that were from the shipyard and she located his personnel file complete with his resignation letter and pay records! He was making 34$ a week take home! Those men really stepped up in a time of need!
My granddad was in same place, felt ripped off, said "fuck it" demanded they take him in the navy. He was the oldest guy on ship, everyone called him dad.
@@hubriswonk Funny/Sad thing was that’s about what my dad made in the USAF in the middle of Viet Nam. I remember him saying that he received a bill for .34 cents after I was born, 😂. Btw, I was born on an Airforce base.
You should do a video on the USS Liberty. Her fight to stay afloat, Her fight against a supposed ally, Her awards, Then the hiding of what happened to her and her crew.
@@daqt6079 If your on face book, part of the USS Liberty crew is still alive. They have a USS Liberty group. You can get first hand knowledge of the attack.
Thank You, Dark Seas. That Episode was Basically a Tribute too My Mother & My Aunt Elizabeth. Who Both Welded for the Kaiser Ship Yard's During the War. Mom told me Stories & Memories of Her Time there from 1942 - 1946 in The Astoria, Washington Ship Yard's. Thank You for Sharing it with US.
I enjoy most if the Dark videos, in spite of the numerous errors. There are several here, including ships sailing on dry land. Example: sailing 165 miles southwest of Sydney would have placed the Robert J. Walker within the city limits of Canberra, far from the ocean. I’m not certain if these errors, which occur in most videos, are intentional or not, but if so they would help build the number of comments. Regardless I will continue watching and enjoying the Dark series of channels.
I was surprised they didn’t mention the early Liberty ships cracking in half at the welds which was remedied by adding a extra long strip that overlapped all the seams.
My grandfather served on U-862 as radio operator. Regrettably he never talked a lot about it. But luckily he has given me a book which documented their journeys. Have to re-read this.
I searched your channel for a X - Class midget submarine mission operation source the one that heavily damaged the Tirpitz for the rest of the war at Churchill’s insistence, surprised to not have seen this video! Would love to see one!
fun fact, the sub commander used to be in charge of minesweepers on the surface sinking subs + he is the first german commander to sink ships in all 4 corners of the wor,d
My Dad was a merchant marine in WWII, worked in the engine room on a transport ship in the Atlantic, sending bombs and bullets to our allies and our US troops in the war in Europe against Hitler's army and airforce. My dad's ship had no offensive weapons and HD worked "below the water line". My dad was colorblind and flat-footed so he couldn't get into the Army, Marines, or Navy but he served on a war ship in grave danger, on a ship with no guns, now that takes guts. God loves you Dad.
4:00 The Liberty Ships were built to haul cargo, not look pretty. You build pretty ships when you have the time to design and equip them. In war, when the ship is likely to be sunk in a few trips, and will need be replaced quickly you build Liberty Ships, and damn how they look.
That's because this is so poorly researched by this American channel......the wreck is actually closer to Melbourne than Sydney..... no where near Jervis Bay Commonwealth Area
Interesting video. Thanks for the upload. One thing I do know is that those Liberty ships played an absolutely vital role in keeping the Allies supplied during WWII. I saw a model kit of one online once. Need to try to find it again.
I believe there were several U-boat based in Singapore or Batavia (Java island) at that time. There are also cemetery for German Navy sailor in Batavia, this very much likely U-boat crew.
I'll see your AAA hit on a torpedo and raise it an IJN D4Y Suisei dive bomber piloted by Warrant Officer Sakio Komatsu deliberately crashing into a torpedo fired by the submarine USS Albacore and heading for the IJN Taiho during the Battle of the Phillipine Sea.
Defenceless? What were the gunners there for? Boost in displacement from 800 to 10,000 long tons? That's a massive upscale. Do you need a proof reader for before you post your episodes?
Good stuff. Thank you! A video on the so-called 'Mystery Ships', designed to look like merchantmen to lure submarines to the surface but equipped with hidden guns to destroy them when they did would be fascinating! All the best from North-East England! 🇬🇧
Funny that id just discovered that there was this joint German/ Japanese operation only yesterday! It consisted of about half a dozen U- boats, Japanese, and former Italian subs that the Germans had taken in 1943 after the Italian surrender. It also had several arado and aichi jake floatplanes for reconnaissance/ patrol work. After the German surrender, all went to the Japanese. After their surrender, all were either scrapped or scuttled postwar. Very interesting and a seldom told story!
Yanagi Blockade Runners. Operation Stonewall. There was a massive, aggressive, international resource and scientific sharing campaign to develop nuclear weapons between Germany and Japan. They got all very close. Maybe even all the way. By Mid 1944, the USN and RN were hunting Cargo U-Boats from the Bay of Biscay to the Madagascar Channel, Horn of Africa and beyond. Read _The Nuclear Axis_ by....hmmmm, here we go: Phillip Henshall. The CIA has spent the last 70 years hunting and cleaning up wreck sites of these sunken U-boats using the likes of the Glomar Explorer/Challenger the last of maybe 50 boats was found just a couple years ago. The Germans didn't sink a lot of Australian shipping because they were not the Hunters. We were. U-504, now in the Chicago Museum of Technology, was the trial balloon for a capture operation that verified what the Ultra decrypts were saying about shipping manifests that included transport of large quantities of 'mercury' (used to transport Plutonium in a paste like compound) and it is almost certain that we captured one of these boats and cleared out their full cargo. You don't ship tons worth of Beryllium if you don't have a nuclear program. Even in 1945, it was next to useless for anything else.
Was a fascinating story, thanks for sharing this. However, twice in the narration you said mine instead of torpedo, and once stowaways instead of castaways. It doesn't detract from the history, but this is the first time that I can recall there being any problem with the script.
This is the first time!?! You never listened to any of his scripts before have you. Dark Seas and Dark Docs makes mistakes in EVERY post the put up. And did you miss where he said the U boat went threw the west coast of Australia not past?
There were so many mistakes these channels used to be nearly unwatchable. It wasn't just little things it was huge factual errors. They've gotten a lot better, I'll give them that but these are still very much edutainment.
Can please someone tell me, why does the liberty ship being launched at the time frame between 4':35"-4':39" bears the symbols and insignia of the Kingdom of Greece on the top of its bow?
Very interesting video, the fact that the U boat steamed off towards NZ backs up a sighting of a submarine surfaced to conning tower base off the Arawhata river mouth in Jackson Bay which is in South Westland west coast of the south island, the sighting was reported by the now Late Dan Grainy
good vid, but look up what "stowaways" means. The *survivors* were not stowing away, and they would not be "castaways" either, if they were found still in their lifeboats. Also, the ships were not increased from 800 long tons to 10,000 long tons, that would be crazy. There's a zero missing.
@@郑颍 no I’ve looked him up, he’s American. Just doesn’t research, proofread, or care much about the accuracy of videos. Dude’s just a content farm tbh.
I think you are too categorical about Capt. Topp being the lone area operator, unless you mean Australian waters only. I'm not sure about that either. You may wish to look at "Haie in Paradies" (Sharks in Paradise) yhat details the Penang story and the German, Japanese and Italian subs that worked from this base.
How did they refuel, get food and water, arms and ammunition, so far away from any friendly country, also how did they stay away from home for such a long time, very dedicated Mariners no doubt.
That's because the submarines they drove were designed by the best and brightest minds of the world...... Yanks had incredibly outdated and stupidly designed tin cans that should have been worked on in the Inter War period
These floating shitpiles of Yank arrogance were more deadly to their crew than the enemy were 😂 They had a nasty habit of snapping in half because: low quality steel used in manufacturing. Using outdated manufacturing techniques (riveting instead of welding) The government letting industry dictate the design, which meant they cut corners so much that it became a circle. The only reason you're not speaking German is because you got obscenely lucky
What I’ll never understand is how those u- boats can sail from Germany all the way around Australia and then over to NZ. How are they being refuelled??
German WW2 U-boats had a range of about 14,000 nautical miles or about 25,000 kilometers. They also had U-boats that were tankers. I think they were also able to refuel and replenish in a base in Malaysia or Indonesia which was under Japanese control, their allies, during the war.
That is all correct,the Gruppe Monsun consisting of 11 submarines had as their main port Penang in Malaysia,and for servicing they could go to Batavia(now Jakarta)and Surabaya.
DARK, forgot to say that the sub left 3 days worth of fresh water, and food for the men of the ship they sank. Krigesmariners work by a different standard then English, and American sailors.
@@redtobertshateshandles You didn't listen. The ship sank before the food and water could be saved. U boats made fresh drinking water as they sailed. Once the fight is thru, sailors treat sailors like brothers. Except for one religious type that hid in American uniforms.
Many islands in Micronesia had been part of the II Reich before being yielded to the Japanese in 1919.Many U-Boots were supplied by the Japanese and Penang was the main logistic point.
As the last veterans of WWII leave us, it is important for content like this to convey the immense scope and slaughter of the near-apocalypse that was that war. To forget, is to soon repeat, and we now live in a world where that means almost certain doom.
Very well said. 'He who does not learn from his mistakes is doomed to repeat them'.
THIS is the correct speed for narration. Good work.
This was a fascinating piece. Had no idea a U-boat made it all the way near the south coast nsw Australia where I live !
Did thy not encounter german mini subs near sydney?
@@whiteonggoy7009 Japanese brother
@@geoffballe8766 ok thanks for that,the old grey matter not so good after 70 years.
There was quite a bit of trade between Japan and Germany mainly until they lost ports in France. Some Japanese visited mainland Europe as well, mark Felton has a video about that. The Japanese would bring raw materials for finished products. The Germans gave them enigma machines too but the Japanese didn't want them thinking they had been broken.
There were German surface raiders too, Newcaslte, Adelaide etc
I appreciate the reasonably unbiased treatment of your history vignettes. Thanks.
This channel literally just uses prewritten articles without verifying details, I've caught SOOOOO many mistakes in the "Dark" channels, Mark Felton is better
This video is yet another piss poor research display
This is a Victory ship, not a liberty ship (none of which came to Australia)
This ship was sunk nowhere near Jervis Bay Commonwealth Area (it was much further South)
U boats weren't that uncommon in Australian waters
I can verify that a German U boat was in Australian waters, as a young apprentice at an aluminum smelter i struck up a conversation with an old German electrician named Athol. I asked him what brought him to Tasmania he told me he was on a U boat in the second world war and running short of food supplies they slaughtered a steer off Flinders island ( they apparently left money to compensate the farmer) He said that it was the best meat he had ever eaten and he swore if he ever had the chance he would come back here as the food was so good, the rest is history , this video verifies his story. PS I am using my wife's login for this comment as I don't have one
My workmates father was on the Eastern front. What stopped the Russian attack was they couldn't climb over their own dead. Plenty of Germans here in Australia.
Amazing Story!
❤ this ... this is just one example of how the internet has helped share stories that weren't deemed important enough for the history books
Epic story mate!!
U-826 went around New Zealand and surfaced off the coast of the small seaside town of Napier on the East Coast of the North Island. Diary entires from one of the sailors told that they got prepared to fire upon the town but decided not to after seeing people roller skating and singing on the shore through binoculars. New Zealand never knew how close they got to being attacked on home soil until years after the war ended.
nice to read about such knightly behavior
Reminds me of the book achtung pavalova
@@Frank-dv3st This was not unusual. German submarines sailed up the St. Lawrence River all the way to Quebec City, and never fired on the civilians.
One story I was told was that the German seamen even went to movie houses in that city.
@@BasementEngineer Well the one documented case is that the person who went ashore was a spy, but he never left New Carlisle, which is out in the gulf. He only went to a hotel room and then tried to take a train out, but was arrested at the station. So he was detected by a mere hotel worker and arrested within three hours, despite being a spy on the espionage mission.
After being cooped up in an iron coffin for months, German sailors must have wanted to join the happy people enjoying themselves on the beach.
Writing from Australia- this is my favourite of your presentations so far. Well researched and fascinating. Thank you 💜
The bravest US servicemen of WWII were in the Merchant Marine. They were focused targets with little self protection who had little chance of survival once hit. They had higher casualty rates than any of the military service branches of the US at the time.
Especially in the Artic convoys! You went in the water you lived about 5 minutes!
They also have the highest rate if warcrimes committed as well....
Shouldn't be honouring people who refused to help survivors of sinking and even shot at them in the water 😑
@@richardcostello360 the captains of the ships were instructed not to stop for survivors, if the ship stopped it was an easy target. My uncle was a crewman on a ship in PQ17, the Lost Convoy, 33 ships departed for Mermask 22 were sank by NAZI U- Boats, aircraft and ships. If the other ships would have followed instructions the 11 ships that completed the run would have been a lot less. My uncle was rescued by the Russian Navy, a friend of mine was rescued by a Norwegian captain who didn’t follow instructions. Luckily, his second ship wasn’t sank too.
As far as shooting people in the water I never heard that one before, because most of the people they encountered in the water were fellow Merchant Marine Seamen or seamen from allied ships. The US Navy suppled the gun crews on American Merchant Marine ships.
Never knew this tale. Just like Felton and History Guy in revealing the forgotten.
Amazing that you keep finding these interesting notes from history. Great work.
He shot a torpedo with a 20 mil?!?! damn. Thats gotta one of the best shots of the war.
Pretty easy hight explosive high rate of fire slow moving target
@@hitoshisawa8479 Then explain why it never happened for the rest of the war.
@@hitoshisawa8479 Keep in mind bullets become essentially useless almost immediately after entering water since they lose all velocity and momentum due to the water's density
@@zanger4002 They probably exploded upon impact with the water. It may have only needed to create a Shockwave to detonate the torpedo but. This is all speculation of course.
Truly excellent video, thanks for uploading.
Wonderful video... I grew up in the Bay area and lived for many years in the houseboat community of Sausalito, California. Liberty ships were built also along the whole waterfront of Sausalito. The army corps of engineers facility in Sausalito has wonderful documentation and pictures of the era of the liberty ships Being Built-in Sausalito..
They were utter garbage and had a major issue of snapping in half 😑
How you Yanks managed to get them across the Atlantic is surprising.... meanwhile the journey down to Australia (where our dockworkers saw the design and fixed it for trans oceanic journeying)
Thank You Sir for your hard work making these excellent videos, I am subscribed to all of the Dark Channels and enjoy them everyday. 👍 🇺🇸
Can’t believe I’ve never heard of this sub and this incident. Unique and very interesting historical event!
Excellent job!
The Oerlikon 20mm Antiaircraft Cannon was a hell of a gun. It was pretty much used by everyone that had a navy in WW2. it fired 20 mm high explosive rounds at a pretty fast pace. If you needed to blow up a torpedo coming at your ship, this would be the gun to use for sure. I am a bit surprised that this did not happen more often. If you had one of these on deck today, you could blow up anything a pirate was using to come at your ship.
The self-serving war profiteering Swiss ( its Swiss) sold them to both allies and the axis. You see them in movies on German E and U type boats
@@jw451 Yup, no doubt about that. It was a great gun. Everybody used them. I read somewhere that something like 30% of Japanese planes shot down were shot down by the 20 mm Oerlikon gun in WW2
@@apis_aculei I don't disagree, but some torpedoes did travel close to the surface. It just seems mathematically that there is no way this only happened one time, during the entire war. These things had a drum with 58 rounds of high explosive AA rounds. that has to affect the fuse mechanism if you get enough of them to go off right around the nose of the torpedo.
@bruh Sure, but high explosive AA rounds are more spectacular when they hit.
The main problem is most of the guns don’t point below the deck line which quite severely affects the movement and therefore the defensive capabilities of the gun. I hope this major flaw has been sorted with all of todays modern techniques n technologies we should be able to point a gun straight down the side of a ship!!!!!
So many of the images were not of the Liberty, but the Victory ships. My dad was on Escanaba Victory, thanks for showing so many Victory Ships!
Thanks for the great videos, I've watched a ton of your content and I appreciate the amount of info you stuff into 10 minutes. Hope you, and your team I assume, are well!
The "SS Cities Service Boston", a 9,348 tons oil tanker, ran aground at Bass Point in New South Wales in a bad storm on 16 May 1943. "SS Cities Service Boston" had been in convoy PG50 four days earlier, when the convoy was attacked by Japanese submarine I-180.
Approximately thirty soldiers of the Australian Army's Sixth Machine Gun Battalion who were camped nearby at Kembla Grange were sent to rescue the crew of the ship. The soldiers assisted with rescuing the 62 American crew members, but unfortunately four men from the 6th Machine Gun Battalion lost their lives when ten soldiers were swept off the rocks in the wild seas. The soldiers had unsuccessfully tried to build a temporary flying fox to the stricken vessel.
My dad (born1924) told me about tanker ships assembled with concrete. Since petroleum products are generally lower density than water, they weren't under much stress (in normal seas) and many were sold and continued to be used for decades after WW2 ended under the flag of Liberia or other nations with very lax standards that appreciated the revenue (but every shipwreck near a Spanish beach or wherever would cost more than a thousand successful crossings brought in).
Well done! I always enjoy watching all your Dark Channels!
My grandfather help build Liberty ships in world war II he was too young for world war I and he was too old for world war II so he built Liberty ships. He said that was his contribution to the war effort.
Nice! My grandfather was too old for war but still built Liberty ships. At the end of 44 they basically fired him to keep him from working himself to death. He opened a gas station and drank more beer than sold gas from what I am told.............but, in about 2000 my aunts company was hired to clean out a warehouse full of file cabinets that were from the shipyard and she located his personnel file complete with his resignation letter and pay records! He was making 34$ a week take home! Those men really stepped up in a time of need!
My granddad was in same place, felt ripped off, said "fuck it" demanded they take him in the navy. He was the oldest guy on ship, everyone called him dad.
@@hubriswonk Funny/Sad thing was that’s about what my dad made in the USAF in the middle of Viet Nam. I remember him saying that he received a bill for .34 cents after I was born, 😂. Btw, I was born on an Airforce base.
@@damndirtyrandy7721 damn!
I read a book on this at Melbourne library, it was fascinating. I love anything on U Boots. 😊.
You should do a video on the USS Liberty. Her fight to stay afloat, Her fight against a supposed ally, Her awards, Then the hiding of what happened to her and her crew.
This is a great suggestion.
@@daqt6079 If your on face book, part of the USS Liberty crew is still alive. They have a USS Liberty group. You can get first hand knowledge of the attack.
@@morelanmn Thank you so much. I don’t hardly ever go on fb but for that I think I’ll check it out. Cheers
@@daqt6079 I am sure it will be the longest production you will do. I know I have years in studying the attack and the events around it.
So you believe it to be a deliberate attack
Thank You, Dark Seas. That Episode was Basically a Tribute too My Mother & My Aunt Elizabeth. Who Both Welded for the Kaiser Ship Yard's During the War. Mom told me Stories & Memories of Her Time there from 1942 - 1946 in The Astoria, Washington Ship Yard's.
Thank You for Sharing it with US.
I enjoy most if the Dark videos, in spite of the numerous errors. There are several here, including ships sailing on dry land. Example: sailing 165 miles southwest of Sydney would have placed the Robert J. Walker within the city limits of Canberra, far from the ocean. I’m not certain if these errors, which occur in most videos, are intentional or not, but if so they would help build the number of comments. Regardless I will continue watching and enjoying the Dark series of channels.
He also said the U boat went THREW the west coast of Australia not past. So, land going U boat?
Yes- I also enjoy dark seas, but I think they have need of an editor or reviewer. 9:45 'the stowaways' What stowaways? The crew?
Fascinating love the commentary 👌
I was surprised they didn’t mention the early Liberty ships cracking in half at the welds which was remedied by adding a extra long strip that overlapped all the seams.
Thanks
Fascinating.
Oh, and a truly wonderful shot to detonate the torpedo too ..
My grandfather served on U-862 as radio operator. Regrettably he never talked a lot about it. But luckily he has given me a book which documented their journeys. Have to re-read this.
This is an amazing channel....Thanks very much....Shoe🇺🇸
9:00 I think Doenitz's guidance is "Its better to SINK one enemy ship than to DAMAGE two. " The comparison is of sink vs damage, not enemy vs friend.
Fantastic Germans never fail to amaze. Salute !
U-862 was also around New Zealand looking for targets of opportunity.
I love your vids! Please keep up the great work!@
I searched your channel for a X - Class midget submarine mission operation source the one that heavily damaged the Tirpitz for the rest of the war at Churchill’s insistence, surprised to not have seen this video! Would love to see one!
Great video thank you for putting it together
fun fact, the sub commander used to be in charge of minesweepers on the surface sinking subs + he is the first german commander to sink ships in all 4 corners of the wor,d
Excellent video I love them all
My Dad was a merchant marine in WWII, worked in the engine room on a transport ship in the Atlantic, sending bombs and bullets to our allies and our US troops in the war in Europe against Hitler's army and airforce. My dad's ship had no offensive weapons and HD worked "below the water line". My dad was colorblind and flat-footed so he couldn't get into the Army, Marines, or Navy but he served on a war ship in grave danger, on a ship with no guns, now that takes guts. God loves you Dad.
Good on ya dad mate!! Lots for your family to be proud of.
U boats
U boats everywhere
Even when you least expect them
9:11 " It is better to sink one enemy ship than damage several friendly ones." Wait, what?
Right? Like no way that’s the right wording?
Love the channel, but they need an editor.
4:00 The Liberty Ships were built to haul cargo, not look pretty.
You build pretty ships when you have the time to design and equip them. In war, when the ship is likely to be sunk in a few trips, and will need be replaced quickly you build Liberty Ships, and damn how they look.
I was trained as an officer at the Naval college at Jervis Bay and I joined submarines in the 80s. I had never heard this story
That's because this is so poorly researched by this American channel......the wreck is actually closer to Melbourne than Sydney..... no where near Jervis Bay Commonwealth Area
What was the endurance capability of those subs? They must have held a crazy-big amount of fuel to get that far away, loiter, and then return.
Interesting video. Thanks for the upload. One thing I do know is that those Liberty ships played an absolutely vital role in keeping the Allies supplied during WWII. I saw a model kit of one online once. Need to try to find it again.
When I was a kid we while we were on vacation rode a paddle wheeler powered by a Liberty Ship engine
Wow, they changed the displacement from a mere 800 LT to 10,000 LT with one simple modification?
Sounds like magic to me.
“Dark Seas” creates mini mini excellent documentaries
Amazing , generations ago ,we could do all these great things, build these great things ,and today , a toaster escapes our capacity.
Amen to that big time
"build these amazing things"
These floating junkyards were more dangerous than the enemy was 😂
Liberty ships had a nasty habit of snapping in half
We only do sophisticated and high value manufacturing now.
Ever see a spacex rocket land? Or a Abrams tank? F35?
Great videos thank you 🇺🇸
I have the book on this sub, in the monsoon group. Very good reading.
9:45 Unless I'm hearing wrong, why are they being called stowaways?
AWESOME VID, many thanks... Damn the torpedoes full speed ahead with more vids....lol
The Walker’s crew did what could and hitting a torpedo amazing! Too bad that the U- boat made into the IJN service though, still one heck of a fight.
Attacking civilians is the ultimate in cowardice. Americans would NEVER do that.
@@Wooargh A heavily armed merchant ship is hardly a civilian target.
Wooargh Hiroshima? Nagasaki ?
@@Wooargh you are incredibly stupid if you think that the USN submarine service didn't attack and massacre Japanese civilians on transport ships 😂
I believe there were several U-boat based in Singapore or Batavia (Java island) at that time. There are also cemetery for German Navy sailor in Batavia, this very much likely U-boat crew.
9:55. 60 stowaways. Were discovered lol. That’s a lot of free lunches. Brave brave Stowaways 👍
The wolfpack waits below for you!!!!
Is awesome as always
4:57 The e at the end of Kriegsmarine isn't there purely for aesthetic appeal meaning it is pronounced and not silent.
What this comment “Confident there were no German submarines in allied water”. It was late 44 and Australia was closer to Japan than Germany.
"Stowaways"? what happened to the ships crew? were these stowaways ever prosecuted for stowing away on the Liberty ship?
I stand with the United States.
I'm sure it should be castaways.
Very interesting
10:59 "Thank you for watching my video".
No, thank You for making it. It was, as always, a pleasure.
Dude shot a torpedo with an anti-aircraft gun. Top that one 👏
I'll see your AAA hit on a torpedo and raise it an IJN D4Y Suisei dive bomber piloted by Warrant Officer Sakio Komatsu deliberately crashing into a torpedo fired by the submarine USS Albacore and heading for the IJN Taiho during the Battle of the Phillipine Sea.
@@VersusARCH That's badass 😎 right there
How about a panzer gunner shooting down an airplane???
Defenceless? What were the gunners there for? Boost in displacement from 800 to 10,000 long tons? That's a massive upscale.
Do you need a proof reader for before you post your episodes?
Very interesting story. I hnew of the German surface raiders in the Pacific but not about this submarine U-862.
That's incredible to shoot down a torpedo especially from a cargo ship crew.
Cold catching season.
thanx, big fan here
Even more rare an german U-boat (U-168) sunk by the Dutch submarine Zwaardvisch in the pacific on 8th of october1944
Dutch submarines are the unsung heroes of the Pacific War.
Good stuff. Thank you!
A video on the so-called 'Mystery Ships', designed to look like merchantmen to lure submarines to the surface but equipped with hidden guns to destroy them when they did would be fascinating!
All the best from North-East England! 🇬🇧
Funny that id just discovered that there was this joint German/ Japanese operation only yesterday! It consisted of about half a dozen U- boats, Japanese, and former Italian subs that the Germans had taken in 1943 after the Italian surrender. It also had several arado and aichi jake floatplanes for reconnaissance/ patrol work. After the German surrender, all went to the Japanese. After their surrender, all were either scrapped or scuttled postwar. Very interesting and a seldom told story!
Yanagi Blockade Runners. Operation Stonewall.
There was a massive, aggressive, international resource and scientific sharing campaign to develop nuclear weapons between Germany and Japan.
They got all very close. Maybe even all the way.
By Mid 1944, the USN and RN were hunting Cargo U-Boats from the Bay of Biscay to the Madagascar Channel, Horn of Africa and beyond.
Read _The Nuclear Axis_ by....hmmmm, here we go: Phillip Henshall.
The CIA has spent the last 70 years hunting and cleaning up wreck sites of these sunken U-boats using the likes of the Glomar Explorer/Challenger the last of maybe 50 boats was found just a couple years ago.
The Germans didn't sink a lot of Australian shipping because they were not the Hunters. We were.
U-504, now in the Chicago Museum of Technology, was the trial balloon for a capture operation that verified what the Ultra decrypts were saying about shipping manifests that included transport of large quantities of 'mercury' (used to transport Plutonium in a paste like compound) and it is almost certain that we captured one of these boats and cleared out their full cargo.
You don't ship tons worth of Beryllium if you don't have a nuclear program. Even in 1945, it was next to useless for anything else.
Hope you feel better!! 🙂
ETERNAL GLORY FOR THE SUBMARINE COMMANDER AND HIS VALIANT CREW!!!
This was a good late-night story.
Hold on is this channel dedicated to naval warfare? That's it I am Subscribing
The old Rathmines float plane base is where I was born.
Medowie I'm guessing?
That is an amazing pace 3 ships every 2 days.
Was a fascinating story, thanks for sharing this.
However, twice in the narration you said mine instead of torpedo, and once stowaways instead of castaways. It doesn't detract from the history, but this is the first time that I can recall there being any problem with the script.
This is the first time!?! You never listened to any of his scripts before have you. Dark Seas and Dark Docs makes mistakes in EVERY post the put up. And did you miss where he said the U boat went threw the west coast of Australia not past?
There were so many mistakes these channels used to be nearly unwatchable. It wasn't just little things it was huge factual errors. They've gotten a lot better, I'll give them that but these are still very much edutainment.
Every Dark video has errors, often multiple errors.
Can please someone tell me, why does the liberty ship being launched at the time frame between 4':35"-4':39" bears the symbols and insignia of the Kingdom of Greece on the top of its bow?
Very interesting video, the fact that the U boat steamed off towards NZ backs up a sighting of a submarine surfaced to conning tower base off the Arawhata river mouth in Jackson Bay which is in South Westland west coast of the south island, the sighting was reported by the now Late Dan Grainy
I believe you meant 'cast aways' rather than 'stow aways'. 👍😉
good vid, but look up what "stowaways" means. The *survivors* were not stowing away, and they would not be "castaways" either, if they were found still in their lifeboats. Also, the ships were not increased from 800 long tons to 10,000 long tons, that would be crazy. There's a zero missing.
I think the fellow is a dutch speaker
@@郑颍 no I’ve looked him up, he’s American. Just doesn’t research, proofread, or care much about the accuracy of videos. Dude’s just a content farm tbh.
@@mitchelljakubka he just reads the wiki and slightly rearranges the words
@@郑颍 Or, in the case of this video, just replaces them with words that don't mean remotely the same thing 😂
@@mitchelljakubka If he is American, then inability to write correct english is probably unavoidable.
I think you are too categorical about Capt. Topp being the lone area operator, unless you mean Australian waters only. I'm not sure about that either. You may wish to look at "Haie in Paradies" (Sharks in Paradise) yhat details the Penang story and the German, Japanese and Italian subs that worked from this base.
@Dark Seas: how about covering the US Navy submarines built and tested on Lake Michigan during WWII?
Wow, I never knew U boats operated over in that area.
look up Gruppe Monsun.
Brave and very young .
Could you do the Casablanca Class Escort Carrier
How did they refuel, get food and water, arms and ammunition, so far away from any friendly country, also how did they stay away from home for such a long time, very dedicated Mariners no doubt.
There was an entire u-boat force, Gruppe Monsun operating out of Penang on the west coast of Malaysia.
Don't forget the u-boat base in jakarta and surabaya, in japanese occupied Indonesia.
The ixd2 uboats had a 30.000 mile range at 10knots
That's because the submarines they drove were designed by the best and brightest minds of the world......
Yanks had incredibly outdated and stupidly designed tin cans that should have been worked on in the Inter War period
The more you know...What happened to the crew?
The Ugly Ducklings surely but without them I’d be speaking German right now maybe. So thank you for building so many ships so fast!
These floating shitpiles of Yank arrogance were more deadly to their crew than the enemy were 😂
They had a nasty habit of snapping in half because: low quality steel used in manufacturing.
Using outdated manufacturing techniques (riveting instead of welding)
The government letting industry dictate the design, which meant they cut corners so much that it became a circle.
The only reason you're not speaking German is because you got obscenely lucky
Can you do a video about the italian navy
🤣🤣
What I’ll never understand is how those u- boats can sail from Germany all the way around Australia and then over to NZ. How are they being refuelled??
German WW2 U-boats had a range of about 14,000 nautical miles or about 25,000 kilometers. They also had U-boats that were tankers. I think they were also able to refuel and replenish in a base in Malaysia or Indonesia which was under Japanese control, their allies, during the war.
That is all correct,the Gruppe Monsun consisting of 11 submarines had as their main port Penang in Malaysia,and for servicing they could go to Batavia(now Jakarta)and Surabaya.
They also carried fuel in their ballast tanks on the outbound journey
DARK, forgot to say that the sub left 3 days worth of fresh water, and food for the men of the ship they sank.
Krigesmariners work by a different standard then English, and American sailors.
What?? Didn't the ship carry food and water?? Nazi propaganda.
@@redtobertshateshandles You didn't listen. The ship sank before the food and water could be saved. U boats made fresh drinking water as they sailed.
Once the fight is thru, sailors treat sailors like brothers. Except for one religious type that hid in American uniforms.
Does his voice sound different?? 🤔
Sounds like a cold.
I thought so too. But it sounds like he's sick.
Many islands in Micronesia had been part of the II Reich before being yielded to the Japanese in 1919.Many U-Boots were supplied by the Japanese and Penang was the main logistic point.
My uncle a three war USMC said even new some of the Liberty ships were junk. One new one being unfit for troops.😢😢
All of them were junk.......with a nasty habit of snapping in half 😑