Why a Classical Education is Superior
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 มี.ค. 2019
- I chat with Steven Rummelsburg about the advantages of a Catholic classical education.
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I get so tired of people claiming that education is all about getting a good job.
Supposedly here in the US, public schools were created by wealthy factory owners who wanted more employees and wanted people to buy more products because they worked all day and had no time to make things themselves.
Why not both? Equip children with the skills to find proper employment, and read them Aristophanes, Herodotus, and Socrates.
@@dmitrishostakovich9559 Totally agree
@@dmitrishostakovich9559 Because resources are always limited so we need to figure out what to focus on.
we are all together
Thanks for this! Striving to classically home educate my daughter!
May I suggest Association of Classical Christian Schools as a resource if you aren't already familiar. Perhaps Memoria Press as well. Both have been helpful for my family & CCE school. Blessings.
@@fated8thank you! 5 years later and this comment is helping me!
"is the public school just knowledge for the sake of knowledge?"
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*"THE MITOCHONDRIA IS THE POWERHOUSE OF THE CELL"*
I read a biography on Flannery O'Connor and she said she wished that she had had a classical education. When she was in high school the local college was doing some course changes and she ended up in a chemistry class where they did no experiments. Also, she never heard of Homer until she had finished her bachelors and was working on her MFA. A classical education affords you the ability to have a great big basket of knowledge that comes in handy when you go through life. It is also good to be able to use your brain and be able to reason and not just feel.
On the subject of not knowing your first language until knowing a second, I was just explaining this to a friend of mine. Learning a second language was so difficult because I did not understand my first very well. “What in the heck are grammar patterns!?” “Why do I need to know what order the subject and the verb go in?” It was while I was learning my second language that I realized my first language wasn’t taught well.
I experienced this when beginning my Russian language learning. I had to go back and re-learn English grammar in order to understand how Russian was constructed. Quite an education in my late 40s.
Completely agree we know English because we just do. We haven't been taught why, but when you study another language or study how to teach it becomes apparent
First languages are NOT taught through grammar intensive methods in the early stages at least. This is the natural method of learning just by immersion. Hence, it is not right to say your first language wasn't taught well. In fact, if you are breaking your head with grammar patterns for your second language, then it means your second language is not being taught well. Even your second language should be taught by the natural method as much as possible. Word lists and grammar patterns should only be supporting materials.
There is a renaissance movement going on in Brazil towards Classical Education headed by Olavo de Carvalho, Rafael Falcón, Rodrigo Gurgel etc.
Latin has enriched my reading tenfold! And it's been fun, like playing with word puzzles. I started as an adult with children's resources and have gotten through the second year of Henle. ❤ We tried to provide our children a classical Christian education, and even though it was a patchy, amateur, piecemeal approach, there has been so much spiritual and intellectual fruit. I'm thrilled for them, and I will always be in the process of redeeming my own poor modern education.
2:25 I find this in the Cherokee language as well--the relationships of words create a logical framework. It's also heavily inflected, as are all of the Iroquoian languages, so that could be why Latin made such good sense to me. I grew up with the Cherokee language.
That's so cool! What's the accent sound like?
“When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for they were no more worlds to conquer”…
We moved over the first Rona lockdown to a new state and enrolled our kids in the local Catholic school because their website says they provide “A Classical Catholic Education” . I have come to realize none of these Catholic Schools know what that even means. Currently letting my kids finish the year, and working so hard to convince my husband to let me enroll them in MODG rather than try another Catholic school.
Mother of Divine Grace! Lovely!
@@actuallicensedteacher1846 yes 😊. We are now all registered .. couldn’t be happier :)
@@SC047074 Susanna, fantastic! I would love to hear about your experience-
I teach at a Catholic school (Diocese of Cincinnati) and they just use the same common core standards that public schools use. My classes heavily revolve around the great books (reading and grammar) and biographies (history/geography) because I have some freedom to pick my own resources, but the teachers before and after me do not do anything similar to that. It also requires me to acquire resources on my own. All the Catholic dioceses in America that I’ve found that had schools did the same. They all just copy the state standards which haven’t done particularly great.
Consider the Charlotte Mason variety of classical education, especially if you're homeschooling. CM ensures the arts and nature appreciation don't get lost among the academics. It's about forming relationships with what we're learning about. Truth, beauty, goodness.
Yes! I would also add looking into Ambleside Online and reading Karen Glass as an introduction.
When I was a child I put little regard on grades. I believe that helped the notion of learning for the sake of learning. If I got a 10 out of 10 or a 6 was irrelevant compared to the much greater sense of having fun and leaning mew things. The evaluation was a mere fun assignments.
When the economy rewards “truth” and fluency in Latin over practical skills and applicable knowledge, then I’ll believe in this approach.
Please debate Jay Dyer. He's an Eastern Orthodox apologist making strong arguments against the Catholic faith
The Dimond Brothers (VaticanCatholic) have dispelled his nonsense routinely to the point that he is a joke.
Wilhelm von Humboldt, who in 1807 founded the structure of modern German education (the research universities which the United States copied after 1875, for one thing), was a genuine classical scholar who translated Sophocles and wrote a history of the Hellenistic Greek city-states.
Both Latin and Greek were prerequisites to matriculation to university; however, the "knowing" involved mathematics, chemistry, physics -- all for the sake of knowing the truth.
The mathematics, for example, was theoretical mathematics, and the physics was (mostly; not all) theoretical physics.
This universality of truth-seeking is pretty much lost in discussions of present-day restoration of classical education.
Classically education vs Sudbury education?
For anyone who wants to get a classical education independently I recommend "The Well Educated Mind" by Susan Wise Bauer. Also we need to remember that many of the "geniuses" of the past were independently wealthy and had women and slaves to take care of them, so they had a lot more free time.
We also have to remember that with technological innovations we have more free time than ever before. We are better off than the independently wealthy slave owners of the past IN GENERAL. Not all people but many many more than before. Most of us have more time and therefore more opportunity to educate ourselves.
Do you homeschool your children?
Diary of a wimpy kid is definitely going to be a classic👌
Instant place in the 'western canon' for sure😂
Education can increase pride in people, as we are seeing in western societies nowadays, when highly educated elites rule (mostly on a technical/scientific background) and the majority of people do not feel any more the need for God and are completely deaf to his calls..
"What is a Classical Education? I think"...
Lost all credibility right there and then.
I get so annoyed when the Bible is referred to as if it were a single book especially, coming from someone who is bemoaning the demise of "classical education."
Hebrew, European language?
First!
It is a bad thing to know Latin, since it muddies down English with ugly loan words.
Classical education is the best. And far superior to modern public or private schools where glthey groom kids