Bring back apricot hill raceway, grand valley speedway, midfield raceway, red rock valley speedway, super speedway, autumn ring, cape ring, complex string, gt arena, kart space, driving park test course, driving park motorland, driving park beginner course, motorsport land, grindelwald, eiger nordwand, matterhorn, el capitan, sears point raceway, twin ring motegi, indianapolis motor speedway, silverstone racing circuit, circuit ricardo tormo, ascari circuit, top gear test track, goodwill hillclimb, cote de azur aka monaco, tokyo r246, seoul central, opera paris, hong kong, seattle circuit, new york, clubman stage route 5, special stage route 5, 7, 11, rome, london, madrid, tahiti road, tahiti dirt route, tahiti maze, smokey mountain north and south rally course, swiss alps, green forest roadway, pike peak rally course, cathedral rock rally course, grand canyon, chamonix, ice arena, toscana, and eiger nordwand rally course to all return in gran turismo 7.
Thanks! I always spend a lot of time to record the best laps that I can for these videos. I also made the same type of video for original (fictional) tracks and for city tracks. th-cam.com/video/qIJQs5qJUu0/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/fl8iJBicfpM/w-d-xo.html
@T80-GAMER He's talking about Ricardo Tormo, which is a permanent track that featured in Tourist Trophy. You're referring to Valencia Street Circuit, which has never been featured in a Polyphony game.
@@Paragleiber Motegi is legit in the middle of nowhere. Like properly in the middle of nowhere. No way that town could sustain the F1 circus even in the 2000s.
@@__vx3 Magny Cours was in the middle of nowhere as well and could hold French Grand Prix from 1991 to 2008. Unsurprisingly the reason why the race was removed from the calendar in 2009 is exactly that its location was way too remote.
Fuji is owned by Toyota (while Suzuka and Motegi are owned by Honda), when the GP was being moved to Fuji it was very much at Toyota's insistence as they were more deeply involved in F1 than Honda was. The timing didn't really work out though, by the time they actually got it moved, Toyota were starting to lose patience with the lack of success after spending billions and Honda were starting to ramp things back up - and so it moved back to suzuka fairly quickly. If there were to be F1 at Motegi it would have to be because Honda wanted to do it there rather than Suzuka, which is fairly unlikely.
Ah..... Yes, These surely brings back memories. If anything, I want these tracks are returning to GT7: 1. Sonoma Raceway, USA(formerly known as Infineon Raceway) 2. Twin Ring Motegi,JPN 3. Silverstone Circuit,GBR Anything new are welcome for me anyway 👌🏻
Back in the day, GT5 was the most complete branding simulation game, but due to licenses limitations GT6 in its launch and now GT7 feels a bit chunk of content, but still nice memories, also, the real branding was ok but the classic fictional GT originals ROCKS
Man nostalgia is a hell of a drug. I used love Twin Ring Motegi, but after 10+ years of plenty of sims and simcades later, the layout looks so boring, especially the first and last sector. I mean I'll take it if it's introduced in GT7 but there are others I'd prefer, namely Pikes Peak that isn't included in this video.
Should be a crime to not have Silverstone in a AAA racing game. Also a real shame they've had the license to Pikes Peak for about 5yrs & done nothing with it. A new time trial section with PP & the Goodwood Hillclimb would be great.
I'd love Infineon/Sonoma, Ascari and Silverstone to return most! Can't say I'm a fan of Motegi. I found it tedious, like a lap felt twice as long as it really was. Too much time spent on completely straight straights followed by cookie cutter corners, not much elevation or variation. Almost like it was made in track creator Indianopolis would be a welcome addition, but personally not massively my thing Top Gear and Goodwood Hillclimb are a little lightweight and gimmicky Cote D'Azur was a real world track in all but name, right? Would love to see that return too if possible The new/returning GT7 tracks are all great so far, except for the horrible little rallycross one
Be nice to see all of the proper tracks return, I totally forgot gt6 had silverstone, wish it had the old gp layout as I much preferred that version Road America and Sebring, miss them so much from forza
Gran turismo should do what slightly mad studios did for project cars 2 and add some classic variants such a spa francochamps historic or nurburging 67 or other forgotten or abandoned tracks like pescara bermgarten or hockinheimring before hockinheim got changed or even targa floria.
A video idea if you have not done so already. All missing Super GT cars from 7 for mainly the Full model cars that 5 and 6 had such as the GT500 Z, and the GT300 RX-7, Arta Garaiya, as one would think those models would only need minor touch up work and adaptation to new physics. Up to you if you want to do all the cars going back to GT1 but that might be a bit much.
@@Paragleiber What I'm supposedly trying to say about the second part is, for example, adding the Indianapolis and Motegi oval variants. And regarding the issue of the Ascari circuit, don't pay attention to what I said, since at that moment I was sleepy.
@@El_Transportacoches_33 I see. For the topic of real world tracks I already showed exactly what I wanted to show. It is not my intention to show multiple variants of the same location in this context. However, I might do a separate video about oval tracks some day (both real and fictional ones).
@@Paragleiber Do the Road Course variants of the oval also count? And if you wonder what that is, the Road Course variants are variants that are within the circuit itself, taking advantage of some oval layout (Like Indianapolis or Daytona), or creating a separate circuit, but which passes under the oval (like Motegi).
The GT makers don't know what the word 'congruent' means apparently. The tracks lineup in GT4 was very US-heavy, so guess which tracks they omitted when introducing Nascar into the game...
It is staggering to me that every track that wasn’t at least on the PS3 games isn’t fully playable. Like I think the car roster is pretty decent but the amount of tracks left on the cutting floor at launch is ridiculous. This could have been _such_ a better game than it is.
Shouldn't be that surprising. It's a lot easier to keep people coming back to the game if they piece everything out instead of giving you everything to complete all at launch. Just be glad they aren't charging for any of it like they did in GT Sport
It's so depressing talking about what's missing in GT7 or what could be there. Looking at Project Cars 2's track and car list, GT7 truly needs to pump out content faster.
These real life circuits can come with licencing issues. And as well at this point the PS3 and earlier tracks would need to be remade completely from scratch to look and feel up to PS5 standards Although GT7 has retained all the tracks from GT Sport I believe, hopefully it bodes well that there'll only be additions and no deductions going forward
So many amazing tracks and cars missing. And worst of all so many amazing races missing. The game is half finished, and still half finished even a year later. Incredibly disappointing.
I don't understand why PD has such a hard time bringing new real and original circuits to GT Sport and GT 7. We see lower budget games, such as games from the RIDE franchise, Project Cars and Assetto Corsa, bringing a plethora of real circuits, such as Macau, Imola, Algarve, Potrero de Los Funes, COTA, Silverstone, Mugello, Donington, SUGO and many others. PD is extremely slow!
I don't have any information on that but even if that was true it probably wasn't the case when GT5 came out. I doubt that they would include it there without permission, lol.
Top Gear Test Track (aka Dunsfold Aerodrome) was demolished in 2018 after Dunsfold Park approved a plan of building 1.800 homes on the site of the aerodrome, so any return of the track in the future will be impossible.
It's not impossible at all. Racing games can also feature tracks that don't exist in the real world anymore. Gran Turismo 4 had historic versions of Fuji for example. The Project Cars games also featured several former real world tracks. It might make a return of the track less likely but definitely not impossible.
well the Dunsfold Airfield was still survived last time I've seen, if anything GT4's San Francisco is gonna need some real rework at the Stadium section of the track
Ascari is actually such an unique a beautiful track. The flow is very good and screnery is top, shame it is so much forgotten
Ascari is raped because of the two stupid chicanes.
Sadly its probably too tight to provide good racing
I have the exact opposite opinion.
@@jordigerards Depends what cars you do the racing in. Classic lightweight sports cars or hatchbacks there would be plenty of room to make passes
@@Catcrumbs The scenery is extremely forgettable. Just grass and trees with some mountain in the background
11:11 I didn't know that goodwood was also in gran turismo, gran turismo 6 to be exact. Cool 👏
Thanks for including Silverstone in this video! We really need that track back in GT7! And all of the other tracks as well!
unfortunetly licensing cost for Silverstone skyrocked and wouldnt expect this track anytime soon
Indianapolis road course brings back so many memories from drag race lobbies in GT5
Gt6 had some great tracks.
Bring back apricot hill raceway, grand valley speedway, midfield raceway, red rock valley speedway, super speedway, autumn ring, cape ring, complex string, gt arena, kart space, driving park test course, driving park motorland, driving park beginner course, motorsport land, grindelwald, eiger nordwand, matterhorn, el capitan, sears point raceway, twin ring motegi, indianapolis motor speedway, silverstone racing circuit, circuit ricardo tormo, ascari circuit, top gear test track, goodwill hillclimb, cote de azur aka monaco, tokyo r246, seoul central, opera paris, hong kong, seattle circuit, new york, clubman stage route 5, special stage route 5, 7, 11, rome, london, madrid, tahiti road, tahiti dirt route, tahiti maze, smokey mountain north and south rally course, swiss alps, green forest roadway, pike peak rally course, cathedral rock rally course, grand canyon, chamonix, ice arena, toscana, and eiger nordwand rally course to all return in gran turismo 7.
Why do you keep editing your comment?
Good lord you may aswell just say include every single track
How about Matterhorn
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@@Paragleiber for me i want every single track from GT1 to 6 returned on 7.
Real nice tracks, and your driving is also super good
Thanks! I always spend a lot of time to record the best laps that I can for these videos. I also made the same type of video for original (fictional) tracks and for city tracks.
th-cam.com/video/qIJQs5qJUu0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/fl8iJBicfpM/w-d-xo.html
By the way! Circuit de Valencia (Circuit Ricardo Tormo) is missing from the Tourist Trophy and Real Circuit from the PSP version of Gran Turismo!
I wouldn't use the word missing but yeah, that one is also not in GT7.
@@Paragleiber the problem with the valencia circuit is that most of it no longer exists and has been made part of the city
@T80-GAMER He's talking about Ricardo Tormo, which is a permanent track that featured in Tourist Trophy. You're referring to Valencia Street Circuit, which has never been featured in a Polyphony game.
Given GT7 is clearly this generation's GT, I would expect to see some of these return.
0:08 I remembered this track from NFS ProStreet as well.
It's in NASCAR games too, NASCAR '98 and '99 and NASCAR Heat 4 and 5 with the full sports car layout.
I miss Sonoma raceway so much. I think the track would be perfect for group 3 races
I was wondering when we would see this video. I always loved Motegi. How it got passed over for a F1 race for Fuji is beyond me.
Maybe Fuji has better facilities and infrastructure for teams and fans or stuff like that but I am not really sure.
@@Paragleiber Motegi is legit in the middle of nowhere. Like properly in the middle of nowhere. No way that town could sustain the F1 circus even in the 2000s.
@@__vx3 Magny Cours was in the middle of nowhere as well and could hold French Grand Prix from 1991 to 2008. Unsurprisingly the reason why the race was removed from the calendar in 2009 is exactly that its location was way too remote.
Fuji is owned by Toyota (while Suzuka and Motegi are owned by Honda), when the GP was being moved to Fuji it was very much at Toyota's insistence as they were more deeply involved in F1 than Honda was. The timing didn't really work out though, by the time they actually got it moved, Toyota were starting to lose patience with the lack of success after spending billions and Honda were starting to ramp things back up - and so it moved back to suzuka fairly quickly. If there were to be F1 at Motegi it would have to be because Honda wanted to do it there rather than Suzuka, which is fairly unlikely.
F1 would have been god awful at motegi, maybe now with drs it would work but back then it wouldn’t
Well done video
I really miss Ascari. Loved that track. Indianapolis and Silverstone I can play on Forza 7.
Ah..... Yes, These surely brings back memories.
If anything, I want these tracks are returning to GT7:
1. Sonoma Raceway, USA(formerly known as Infineon Raceway)
2. Twin Ring Motegi,JPN
3. Silverstone Circuit,GBR
Anything new are welcome for me anyway 👌🏻
How about adding brand new circuits in GT7 that haven't been in previous GT games?
@@kosths_mlmt If that's true, then my first suggestion would be Lime Rock Park.
Motegi looks VERY boring...
Sonoma was very hard to learn in the beginning. But once I understood it it just was very satisfying. Motegi was great as well
both brilliant circuits, that need to be in gt7. would love to know how the SF19 races at motegi's 1 ½ mile superspeedway.
Back in the day, GT5 was the most complete branding simulation game, but due to licenses limitations GT6 in its launch and now GT7 feels a bit chunk of content, but still nice memories, also, the real branding was ok but the classic fictional GT originals ROCKS
GT6 had way more content than GT5
i completely forgot Silverstone was in the game. They need to bring it back and add new one like Donington
We need them all back !!
I didn't realise that Infineon and Sonoma are the same track. I spent so much time driving in there with GT4, and in recent years with Project Cars 2.
It was also in NFS Pro street
Motegi should definitely come back.
Man nostalgia is a hell of a drug. I used love Twin Ring Motegi, but after 10+ years of plenty of sims and simcades later, the layout looks so boring, especially the first and last sector. I mean I'll take it if it's introduced in GT7 but there are others I'd prefer, namely Pikes Peak that isn't included in this video.
I'd love to have Motegi, Silverstone and Indianapolis back.
6:01 oh hell nah not the corner hamilfraud attempted murder
Should be a crime to not have Silverstone in a AAA racing game. Also a real shame they've had the license to Pikes Peak for about 5yrs & done nothing with it. A new time trial section with PP & the Goodwood Hillclimb would be great.
They need to bring back top gear test track
I'd love Infineon/Sonoma, Ascari and Silverstone to return most!
Can't say I'm a fan of Motegi. I found it tedious, like a lap felt twice as long as it really was. Too much time spent on completely straight straights followed by cookie cutter corners, not much elevation or variation. Almost like it was made in track creator
Indianopolis would be a welcome addition, but personally not massively my thing
Top Gear and Goodwood Hillclimb are a little lightweight and gimmicky
Cote D'Azur was a real world track in all but name, right? Would love to see that return too if possible
The new/returning GT7 tracks are all great so far, except for the horrible little rallycross one
Also in GT4 there where the older versions of the Fuji track, Fuji Speedway (80's & 90's) & Fuji Speedway (2005 & GT)
Only Indianapolis, Mobility Resort Motegi, and Silverstone matters to me, although I still want Sonoma Raceway.
I wonder why they not in GT7. License issues. how about complex spring from gt7. That is a great track to improve your skills
Be nice to see all of the proper tracks return, I totally forgot gt6 had silverstone, wish it had the old gp layout as I much preferred that version
Road America and Sebring, miss them so much from forza
I miss Ascari, the car too even though it's never been in GT
You forgot Monaco
You are wrong. I didn't forget it.
is Laguna Seca and Monaco past their GT time?
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Gran turismo should do what slightly mad studios did for project cars 2 and add some classic variants such a spa francochamps historic or nurburging 67 or other forgotten or abandoned tracks like pescara bermgarten or hockinheimring before hockinheim got changed or even targa floria.
40 minutes of Silverstone just for filming 2 minutes. Bravo
A video idea if you have not done so already. All missing Super GT cars from 7 for mainly the Full model cars that 5 and 6 had such as the GT500 Z, and the GT300 RX-7, Arta Garaiya, as one would think those models would only need minor touch up work and adaptation to new physics. Up to you if you want to do all the cars going back to GT1 but that might be a bit much.
You missed Ricardo Tormo, in Cheste, V alencia. It was in GT4 or GT5, I think
I didn't miss it. I know about that one too. And it's only in the PSP game. Not in any of the main ones.
Could you make a second part of the video? Since the longest video fragment was the one of the Ascari circuit...
I don't understand what you mean. What kind of second part? And what does Ascari being the longest track have to do with it?
@@Paragleiber What I'm supposedly trying to say about the second part is, for example, adding the Indianapolis and Motegi oval variants.
And regarding the issue of the Ascari circuit, don't pay attention to what I said, since at that moment I was sleepy.
@@El_Transportacoches_33 I see. For the topic of real world tracks I already showed exactly what I wanted to show. It is not my intention to show multiple variants of the same location in this context. However, I might do a separate video about oval tracks some day (both real and fictional ones).
@@Paragleiber Do the Road Course variants of the oval also count? And if you wonder what that is, the Road Course variants are variants that are within the circuit itself, taking advantage of some oval layout (Like Indianapolis or Daytona), or creating a separate circuit, but which passes under the oval (like Motegi).
@@El_Transportacoches_33 Count for what? I don't understand what you are asking.
The GT makers don't know what the word 'congruent' means apparently. The tracks lineup in GT4 was very US-heavy, so guess which tracks they omitted when introducing Nascar into the game...
I wonder if there are some licensing issues
Where's Monaco?
In GT 3, 4, 5 and 6.
It is staggering to me that every track that wasn’t at least on the PS3 games isn’t fully playable. Like I think the car roster is pretty decent but the amount of tracks left on the cutting floor at launch is ridiculous. This could have been _such_ a better game than it is.
Shouldn't be that surprising. It's a lot easier to keep people coming back to the game if they piece everything out instead of giving you everything to complete all at launch.
Just be glad they aren't charging for any of it like they did in GT Sport
GT Sport didnt charge for updates either.
I'm pretty sure Indianapolis and Sliverstone will come back to GT7, maybe Motegi too? Sonoma and Ascari I doubt sadly.
Twin Ring Motegi
Sliverstone in GT7 would be awesome
Very Good: Top Gear Test Track
Good: Infineon Raceway, Goodwood
Average: Indianapolis, Silverstone, Ascari
Meh: Twin Ring Motegi
GT7 feels so empty without Silverstone
Bring them all back!!!
I got ptsd from driving a veyron in ascari
Hope in update 1.5, all those world circuits returned in GT7!
We probably will never get IMS back, or, at least so as long as Michelin is a official sponsor of Gran Turismo.
It's so depressing talking about what's missing in GT7 or what could be there. Looking at Project Cars 2's track and car list, GT7 truly needs to pump out content faster.
I miss the formula gt too 😢
Wait... Isn't Silverstone in GT7?? Wow...
Imagine they bring back cape ring
Top gear test track please
All this did was remind me of how much ass GT car sounds used to suck.
True lol. And it feels like GT4 was even better than GT5/6 in terms of the sounds, and GT2 was better than 4 in some cases
I find it weird that they aren't carried over to the other games
These real life circuits can come with licencing issues. And as well at this point the PS3 and earlier tracks would need to be remade completely from scratch to look and feel up to PS5 standards
Although GT7 has retained all the tracks from GT Sport I believe, hopefully it bodes well that there'll only be additions and no deductions going forward
Silverstone isn't in GT7???
I just want a pikes peak course
So many amazing tracks and cars missing. And worst of all so many amazing races missing. The game is half finished, and still half finished even a year later. Incredibly disappointing.
Monaco was also in GT5
Yep. It was in GT 3, 4, 5 and 6.
Top gear test track was so cool, it wouldn’t work now though because top gear is shit now.
Grand Tour test track (ebola drone) would be awesome though
I don't understand why PD has such a hard time bringing new real and original circuits to GT Sport and GT 7.
We see lower budget games, such as games from the RIDE franchise, Project Cars and Assetto Corsa, bringing a plethora of real circuits, such as Macau, Imola, Algarve, Potrero de Los Funes, COTA, Silverstone, Mugello, Donington, SUGO and many others. PD is extremely slow!
You should have mentioned Cote D Azur. Sorry that im saying it wrong.
I already covered that one in my video about city tracks.
@@Paragleiber ah ok
Ascari can stay in GT6, never liked that track 😂
I miss Monaco
Top gear has an exclusivity license with forza though
I don't have any information on that but even if that was true it probably wasn't the case when GT5 came out. I doubt that they would include it there without permission, lol.
@@Paragleiber forza got the exclusivity some time after gt5 was released if i’m correct
Motegi😍😍🥲
fun fact silverstone is also in gt sport
You are wrong.
Top Gear Test Track (aka Dunsfold Aerodrome) was demolished in 2018 after Dunsfold Park approved a plan of building 1.800 homes on the site of the aerodrome, so any return of the track in the future will be impossible.
It's not impossible at all. Racing games can also feature tracks that don't exist in the real world anymore. Gran Turismo 4 had historic versions of Fuji for example. The Project Cars games also featured several former real world tracks. It might make a return of the track less likely but definitely not impossible.
well the Dunsfold Airfield was still survived last time I've seen, if anything GT4's San Francisco is gonna need some real rework at the Stadium section of the track
GT7 has less content than GT4
That is because the workload to model a car in 2022/2023 is exponentially higher than it was in 2004.
@@char4854 which makes it worse cause GT7 will feel worse off more empty than a PS2 game
@@char4854 as well as being riddled with eSports content. Many updates have been more focused on such content instead of single player
I hate Sonoma in Forza Motorsport 7. The track is so narrow compared to GT4
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35 laps 💀
GT4 is still the best GT ever
Nice
Gran Turismo has never been the best in engine sounds LOL
Yeesh, those engine sounds are uhhh.... quite computerized
Mónaco
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