As an electrician who adopted electronics as a hobby I can say *w2aw Allen Wolke* Dave Jones and Shahmian are best teachers and there are many more video's from whom I have learned on particular subjects in electronics such as Jack Gansel's video "I ONLY PROBED THE BOARD WITH A SCOPE- WHY DID MY BOARD CRASH?"
@3:15 the important thing is that shahriar's videos are about advanced topics... but they are neither a webinar nor a company promotional videos nor a college/uni professor during lecture. There is much more that lasts and always something new that comes useful, even if the video is about some black magic vodoo :D
I really have to agree on this distinction! I love Shahriar's videos because they deal with fairly advanced stuff while taking a fairly lighthearted approach to it. From my experience with microwave and HF electronics the theory to do things right becomes overwhelming fast (>6GHz), because you have to consider so many things. On the other hand it becomes so much easier to understand the topology of circuits due to their design restrictions. That's why some talk about black magic when referring to microwave electronics, but from my own experience, a lot of stuff becomes intuition once you know what's happening. Shahriar is able convey this intuitional understanding of microwave electronics very well and that's why I love the videos!
Rarely had the same impression from any video ever (and haven't listened to 33% yet..), where one feels so relaxed and privileged as some respected third person in the room. Simply freaking amazing... guy's it's pure genius.
So awesome to see you two guys together! Eons back I worked in video production, both as a nerd staring at vectorscopes and as a producer at the money-making end of things. 7 minutes was the programme time between commercial breaks on free-to-air TV, so audiences for visual content were trained to engage for 7 minutes, then disengage during the ads. Hence when we did corporate videos, 7 minutes was the sweet spot for length. I guess that translates to TH-cam right now because TV is the dominant medium, but I'll be interested to see how optimal engagement times change as people's consumption mediums and contexts change.
i personally love all the videos from both of you, no matter what the length! some goes straight over my head, but i always learn something, NEVER stop learning
I been in R&D, applications and validation engineering (so almost the entire cycle) and worked on around 10 projects. When my first project got canned after 1.5 years of working on it, I was very saddened. We were told we would work on a new project for "3 months tops", yeah.......... ended up working on that project for 2.5 years and never was able to launch the product.
The Signal Path is probably my favorite channel especially his repair videos. Dave should ask for some pointers on repairing equipment from him lol. I also watch all the video not this 10 minute rubbish
I agree, I can't imagine trying to squeeze a good amount of technical knowledge into a 10 minute video... His videos go somewhat in depth, which is much appreciated by his core audience I'm sure.
9:08 One good example of a unit that was repaired on a video from another channel would be the some of the older Hewlett-Packard 81xxA series of function/pulse generators. The caveat is that some of the failed internal components of these units are getting difficult to source, yet the prices on complete working and non-working units continue to rise. With that mentioned, they're great units provided if they work properly and if the sale price is really cheap.
learning Electronics (and not only electronics )via the net is the future ! I have learned via TH-cam things I could not pick up from books ! What is needed is ordering of all the videos so that the young player" will know the order they should learn. Where it starts (theory of electricity) and the following steps.
One of the hardest things for me to do is juggling my passions. I'm an electrical engineer in the biotech field and I'm planning my wedding and saving for a house. I don't even have kids! I like woodworking, automotive repair, playing musical instruments, photography, creating TH-cam videos, gaming (given up due to time involved), movies.. I sure wish I had a passion for running. I wouldn't have to deal with the intense dread of trying to commit to exercise. Seriously, the last thing I want to do after getting home at 8:00 PM is exercising and cooking a meal.
As Dave said, everyone pays for it relative to their income and ability. It is in the interest of a society for all its members to be healthy and educated.
So I started watching the EEVblog some time ago and than the friend of mine told me to watch The Signal Path, the very first recommenden video is about both Shahriar and Dave talking about staff. How small this Earth is!
What is really needed for training courses is to incorporate classes in a VR setting where virtual equipment could be removed from a virtual cabinet of infinite equipment and placed on a table where virtual experiments could be done. If it was done well someone trained this way would be able to do the experiments in real life even if they never touched any of the real equipment before in their life. Some of the games made using VR make it evident that the technology is there to do this, it would just need investment.
I’m sure most of us appreciate the time and effort you guys put in, honesty I’d have to spend at least week to do a 10 minute video, I’d be scared to death of making mistakes with so many people watching, of course mistakes will happen and it doesn’t matter, but still that’s a lot of pressure on time to double and triple check everything... kudos!
"Work two years on a project and it gets shit-canned. That's two years of my life..." I'm hearing you, brother. That was one reason why I left project engineering.
WOW Dave, I am picking up conflicting body language in this video and ur math looks very wrong, what are the big numbers? b4 the / and after it represent? thats if i get a reply, cos I don't recall ever getting one back from u over the years.
Two of my most favorite TH-camrs in the same video - Score!! I actually prefer longer videos. I think it's annoying having to find a video every 7 minutes. In my opinion a good video length is 45 min to an hour and a half. I think the "7 min" thing is for people that want instant gratification. Us engineers know the best rewards take time and patients.
I suspect that I'm driving off the statistics on TSP videos by watching them in parts, which TH-cam probably interprets as two to four views from my person, ten to twenty minutes each.
Oscar Isaac is actual good at this ;) - Very interesting , please do more like this. I like! Maybe a X-Wing 101 ? No seriously, none of your videos left me unsatisfied. You're truly a showmaster, Dave. I learned a lot and got entertained as well. Wish school was that fascinating these days. From Germany with love. Keep up the good work.
14:00 The vast majority of "what would cost money" is answered by using volunteers. What it would take to pay all those people would be astounding. The EEVblog is an exception to a great many youtube channels in that it has a wiki (and other resources) anybody can read. It would makes sense for channels to strongly encourage volunteer rich solutions whereby the audience "do work" by keeping documentation abreast (and thereby refreshing their own knowledge base) and improving docs' accessibility.
9:00 This is true across the board. I started getting into buying older test equipment on eBay spanning the period from the mid 1960's to the mid 1980's to repair or refurbish about 5 years ago. Back then I could get a lot of this equipment for under $50. Now, it seems that $100 plus is the norm. So in the past 2 years or so, I have been going to the local Goodwill and Salvation Army gift stores and buying older audio equipment to repair and refurbish. Now that this equipment does not languish on their shelves for months at a time like it did before I arrived, the price of THAT equipment has risen. Supply and demand at work, yet again.
Regarding the length of episodes and the "attention span", for a lot of people I know they use youtube mainly to fill in gaps, waiting somewhere, riding the tram etc. and it isn't necessarily their attention span, but the external circumstances that limit the time they spend on youtube. Only few people I know watch full long episodes of anything on youtube as a replacement for the classical TV time, and even that only rarely.
I had imagined optical circuits for very high speed communication, when I started my engineering (still a student) & thought I wanted to pioneer in that field, just makes me feel like an idiot to have thought I came up with it, then I did a google search & found that research for most my ideas like using neural architecture for processors were actually going on right now & not so futuristic after all. Electronics is probably the fastest evolving engineering field I guess.
LifeRider 96 Life gets like that if you have enough ideas. Ultimately, chances are if you've thought of it, so yas someone else. I wanted a tablet computer in 1992. I'm writing this on one now, and while I had the thought, I had nothing to do with it. Extending from that I thought of having a laptop with a touchscreen instead of a keyboard, and wouldn't you know it, more than a decade later, Acer built one. (it was a flop, but, you know.). There were a lot of other things but my point I guess is an idea alone doesn't amount to much, and chances are you aren't the only person to think of it. It does get frustrating with story ideas and the like. When you know you thought of something years ago, but someone else created a similar concept a few years after you first thought of it, and now you risk being accused of copying or even plagiarising something because you didn't go from idea to finished thing quickly enough. Because, it is in facf possible for two or more people to independently think of the same thing...
Hi Maybe a tip how to see you can make the channel easier to find. since single path will not show the channel even with the single path its not showing on my first search results page. i had to change the filter to channels only to find it on my google account
Dave, I'd be interested in learning more about your sonar and low frequency seismic work. Some friends of mine and I come across those problems everyday, and would enjoy seeing a video about what your learned during your time working in underwater acoustics... Thanks for the content!
Does anybody know how to make the picture on my lcd tv do a 180 cause I want to mount it upside down i my wardrobe on a hinge system so it can be stored flat with the bottom of the shelf ideas please anyone
I've been waiting for someone to say that cats don't have a Gaussian distribution because they aren't average creatures! But then do we really need more statistical jokes?
Dave doesn't like cats but my cat doesn't like Dave, so I suppose they're even. I'm lost in the middle looking fondly at both and wondering which one I would save first in a fire.
15:12 - What came to mind when he said "... *fake* online *university... promise of a job they're never going to have*"? LOL... Trump University? Ya, me too!
Good to see both of you together, but Dave, please stop talking over your conversation partner every time. It is super annoying, first because I also hate when someone talks over me. Second, I am not a native english speaker, and I don't understand a word if you talking simultaneously. Respect him a little and let him finish his sentence. Regarding the length of the videos: I think curious and information-hungry people likes to watch longer videos if it is interesting and filled with valuable content. And both of your videos are like that. Making super short videos for average people essentially lowers the quality and value. Not the averages watching yours and there are other channels for crafters.
understand a word if you're*. I am a native english speaker, and I turn on the captions for assistance. Sometimes it's the only clue I've got to what has been said. So suggest that they stay apart for the sake of the captioner, not your underrated ability to swim through two completely different dialects of a language.
I know exactly what your talking about when you say videos drive up prices. I have seen that myself. Do a video on a radio and within a few weeks the prices double or more and they all disappear from ebay. Hmm, we should get a kick back. ;-)
Dog are like 2 year olds, its me me me now now now, always want something. With cats, they are like teenagers, you only see them when they Want something, food, grooming, place to sleep.
If you do come to NJ - you'll *both* have to come visit me too! I'm not very far from Shahriar...
I hope we can arrange that! :)
As an electrician who adopted electronics as a hobby I can say *w2aw Allen Wolke* Dave Jones and Shahmian are best teachers and there are many more video's from whom I have learned on particular subjects in electronics such as Jack Gansel's video "I ONLY PROBED THE BOARD WITH A SCOPE- WHY DID MY BOARD CRASH?"
Shahriar?
yes you guys should all get together. All three of you are my favorite EE people on TH-cam xD
Add curiousmark and trx bench and my playlist is complete. 😊
@3:15 the important thing is that shahriar's videos are about advanced topics... but they are neither a webinar nor a company promotional videos nor a college/uni professor during lecture. There is much more that lasts and always something new that comes useful, even if the video is about some black magic vodoo :D
I really have to agree on this distinction! I love Shahriar's videos because they deal with fairly advanced stuff while taking a fairly lighthearted approach to it. From my experience with microwave and HF electronics the theory to do things right becomes overwhelming fast (>6GHz), because you have to consider so many things. On the other hand it becomes so much easier to understand the topology of circuits due to their design restrictions. That's why some talk about black magic when referring to microwave electronics, but from my own experience, a lot of stuff becomes intuition once you know what's happening. Shahriar is able convey this intuitional understanding of microwave electronics very well and that's why I love the videos!
Thanks Shahriar and Dave for doing this!
Wow - two of my favorite guys!!!
As far as the number of viewers you have, in my opinion, it's not about quantity. It's all about quality.
Just found about TSP this year.
I watch his videos a couple of times at once, so full of information.❤
By the way, dogs have owners, cats have staff.
Gosh an essay in response to a joke. I have 2 dogs by the way.
You don't adopt a cat. The cat adopts you.
Rarely had the same impression from any video ever (and haven't listened to 33% yet..), where one feels so relaxed and privileged as some respected third person in the room. Simply freaking amazing... guy's it's pure genius.
Thanks, that is very kind.
Two legends in one video!
Indeed...Two towers,,,
Very delicately put that comment!
Thank you!
You forgot to mention Weaw (Allen Wolke)
Dave's channel inspired me to start my own eventually. Thanks Dave!
If you are interested in learning how to fix electronics, add The Signal Path to your subscription list.
Two great people together...lifting spirits
Two of the greatest Engineers on TH-cam in the same room! More of these in future please. You've made this Engineers day!
So awesome to see you two guys together! Eons back I worked in video production, both as a nerd staring at vectorscopes and as a producer at the money-making end of things. 7 minutes was the programme time between commercial breaks on free-to-air TV, so audiences for visual content were trained to engage for 7 minutes, then disengage during the ads. Hence when we did corporate videos, 7 minutes was the sweet spot for length. I guess that translates to TH-cam right now because TV is the dominant medium, but I'll be interested to see how optimal engagement times change as people's consumption mediums and contexts change.
I want to thank the both of you. You guys are awesome.
My two Favs!
i personally love all the videos from both of you, no matter what the length! some goes straight over my head, but i always learn something, NEVER stop learning
Great to see both of you together!!!
Two of the best channels on youtube. A big toast to you gentlemen for sharing your knowledge with the community.
I been in R&D, applications and validation engineering (so almost the entire cycle) and worked on around 10 projects. When my first project got canned after 1.5 years of working on it, I was very saddened. We were told we would work on a new project for "3 months tops", yeah.......... ended up working on that project for 2.5 years and never was able to launch the product.
The Signal Path is probably my favorite channel especially his repair videos. Dave should ask for some pointers on repairing equipment from him lol. I also watch all the video not this 10 minute rubbish
Oh Yes, for Me to! If I want to see some ultra expensive gears to open :) I like his channel!
Same here, I never miss a repair video.
TX Rider Why? You can learn a lot!
I agree! Dr.Shahramian's Signal Path is probably my favorite too! I give it A+
I agree, I can't imagine trying to squeeze a good amount of technical knowledge into a 10 minute video... His videos go somewhat in depth, which is much appreciated by his core audience I'm sure.
two of my favorite role models in one video.
GREAT to see you, Shariar!!! WOOT!
Thank you, guys! It is always pleasure to listen to a clever people. EEV and SP are my favorite youtube channels :)
Thank you both for what you do!
I could listen to you guys for hours! Thanks for these awesome videos, I really enjoyed them :)
9:08 One good example of a unit that was repaired on a video from another channel would be the some of the older Hewlett-Packard 81xxA series of function/pulse generators. The caveat is that some of the failed internal components of these units are getting difficult to source, yet the prices on complete working and non-working units continue to rise.
With that mentioned, they're great units provided if they work properly and if the sale price is really cheap.
learning Electronics (and not only electronics )via the net is the future ! I have learned via TH-cam things I could not pick up from books ! What is needed is ordering of all the videos so that the young player" will know the order they should learn. Where it starts (theory of electricity) and the following steps.
Great to see Shahriar again! One of the best content producers on YT!
One of the hardest things for me to do is juggling my passions. I'm an electrical engineer in the biotech field and I'm planning my wedding and saving for a house. I don't even have kids!
I like woodworking, automotive repair, playing musical instruments, photography, creating TH-cam videos, gaming (given up due to time involved), movies..
I sure wish I had a passion for running. I wouldn't have to deal with the intense dread of trying to commit to exercise.
Seriously, the last thing I want to do after getting home at 8:00 PM is exercising and cooking a meal.
This is AWESOME!
Great to see both of you in a common video. Makes for a very interesting discussion.
What is the name of that professor?
It was Behzad Razavi
Yes, that's him
I love this video
Hello from Iran to Shahriar and Dave
Hello!
The Signal Path holy shit! Now I'm actually proud to be iranian
Totally agree Signal path has much more details and specifics. But I like EEVblog because its got a wider range of info. You both do a great job
tsp is one of my 3 favorite chanels, keep them coming Shahriar
Oh wow, my two TH-cam heroes talking to each other.
thanks for presenting this new guy, I am interested in this more advanced electronics
I followed Shahriar's video and bought/refurbished a Sencore PR570...
Isn't it great for the price?
As Dave said, everyone pays for it relative to their income and ability. It is in the interest of a society for all its members to be healthy and educated.
The law of electronics is in the house and king of repairs. he is my favorite YT blogger and a humble man indeed. 7:26 that!
I wish Alan, Shahriar and Dave work together and come up with some project and post their process. That would be awesome
So I started watching the EEVblog some time ago and than the friend of mine told me to watch The Signal Path, the very first recommenden video is about both Shahriar and Dave talking about staff. How small this Earth is!
What is really needed for training courses is to incorporate classes in a VR setting where virtual equipment could be removed from a virtual cabinet of infinite equipment and placed on a table where virtual experiments could be done. If it was done well someone trained this way would be able to do the experiments in real life even if they never touched any of the real equipment before in their life. Some of the games made using VR make it evident that the technology is there to do this, it would just need investment.
I am fan of him.......
that was freaking great, and the audio and lighting were just fine
No one can thumbs down these legends👍👍👍🙏
You guys are amazing, Thanks for all your videos!
I’m sure most of us appreciate the time and effort you guys put in, honesty I’d have to spend at least week to do a 10 minute video, I’d be scared to death of making mistakes with so many people watching, of course mistakes will happen and it doesn’t matter, but still that’s a lot of pressure on time to double and triple check everything... kudos!
Happy Great Chat
Cannot understand why people don't watch through the entire length of the videos.
3:45 the first time i ever saw the signal path laugh
Thanks for sharing. You are both interesting people. Good points 😀👍
"Work two years on a project and it gets shit-canned. That's two years of my life..."
I'm hearing you, brother.
That was one reason why I left project engineering.
WOW Dave, I am picking up conflicting body language in this video and ur math looks very wrong, what are the big numbers? b4 the / and after it represent? thats if i get a reply, cos I don't recall ever getting one back from u over the years.
Two of my most favorite TH-camrs in the same video - Score!!
I actually prefer longer videos. I think it's annoying having to find a video every 7 minutes. In my opinion a good video length is 45 min to an hour and a half.
I think the "7 min" thing is for people that want instant gratification. Us engineers know the best rewards take time and patients.
Haven't watched it yet, but I'm certain this talk is going to be interesting.
Your spidey sense serves you well
Nice to see you
merhaba dostlar
I suspect that I'm driving off the statistics on TSP videos by watching them in parts, which TH-cam probably interprets as two to four views from my person, ten to twenty minutes each.
Oscar Isaac is actual good at this ;) - Very interesting , please do more like this. I like! Maybe a X-Wing 101 ? No seriously, none of your videos left me unsatisfied. You're truly a showmaster, Dave. I learned a lot and got entertained as well. Wish school was that fascinating these days. From Germany with love. Keep up the good work.
14:00 The vast majority of "what would cost money" is answered by using volunteers. What it would take to pay all those people would be astounding. The EEVblog is an exception to a great many youtube channels in that it has a wiki (and other resources) anybody can read. It would makes sense for channels to strongly encourage volunteer rich solutions whereby the audience "do work" by keeping documentation abreast (and thereby refreshing their own knowledge base) and improving docs' accessibility.
Brilliant !
The acoustics are great.
The signal path channel needs some playlist organization.
You are right. I'll try to do this. On the website you can click on Tags which may help.
9:00 This is true across the board. I started getting into buying older test equipment on eBay spanning the period from the mid 1960's to the mid 1980's to repair or refurbish about 5 years ago. Back then I could get a lot of this equipment for under $50. Now, it seems that $100 plus is the norm. So in the past 2 years or so, I have been going to the local Goodwill and Salvation Army gift stores and buying older audio equipment to repair and refurbish. Now that this equipment does not languish on their shelves for months at a time like it did before I arrived, the price of THAT equipment has risen. Supply and demand at work, yet again.
Regarding the length of episodes and the "attention span", for a lot of people I know they use youtube mainly to fill in gaps, waiting somewhere, riding the tram etc. and it isn't necessarily their attention span, but the external circumstances that limit the time they spend on youtube. Only few people I know watch full long episodes of anything on youtube as a replacement for the classical TV time, and even that only rarely.
its awkward that shariar anwser to the camera instead to dave
I had imagined optical circuits for very high speed communication, when I started my engineering (still a student) & thought I wanted to pioneer in that field, just makes me feel like an idiot to have thought I came up with it, then I did a google search & found that research for most my ideas like using neural architecture for processors were actually going on right now & not so futuristic after all. Electronics is probably the fastest evolving engineering field I guess.
LifeRider 96 Life gets like that if you have enough ideas.
Ultimately, chances are if you've thought of it, so yas someone else.
I wanted a tablet computer in 1992. I'm writing this on one now, and while I had the thought, I had nothing to do with it.
Extending from that I thought of having a laptop with a touchscreen instead of a keyboard, and wouldn't you know it, more than a decade later, Acer built one. (it was a flop, but, you know.).
There were a lot of other things but my point I guess is an idea alone doesn't amount to much, and chances are you aren't the only person to think of it.
It does get frustrating with story ideas and the like. When you know you thought of something years ago, but someone else created a similar concept a few years after you first thought of it, and now you risk being accused of copying or even plagiarising something because you didn't go from idea to finished thing quickly enough.
Because, it is in facf possible for two or more people to independently think of the same thing...
Very interesting
Wow.. great combination! 👍
How much room do you need to swing a cat?
Depends on its elasticity properties.
love The Signal Path!
Hi Maybe a tip how to see you can make the channel easier to find. since single path will not show the channel even with the single path its not showing on my first search results page. i had to change the filter to channels only to find it on my google account
Maybe because the channel name is "The Signal Path" and not "Single Path"
i hope that i'm with you guys :'(
Thumbs up for the squished cat.
Dave, I'd be interested in learning more about your sonar and low frequency seismic work. Some friends of mine and I come across those problems everyday, and would enjoy seeing a video about what your learned during your time working in underwater acoustics... Thanks for the content!
Have you seen EEVblog #10? It's hardly a full run-down of his seismic work, but an entertaining anecdote from that time.
Does anybody know how to make the picture on my lcd tv do a 180 cause I want to mount it upside down i my wardrobe on a hinge system so it can be stored flat with the bottom of the shelf ideas please anyone
I wonder what Dave thinks about rabbits?
It's so bored without the board and the marker :'(
Excellent! DC meets Daylight! ; )
Recently I was thinking about moving to Sydney for job, because my grandma has familiy there, but she refused to contact them for me :(
I've been waiting for someone to say that cats don't have a Gaussian distribution because they aren't average creatures! But then do we really need more statistical jokes?
I want more engineering videos!.
Dave doesn't like cats but my cat doesn't like Dave, so I suppose they're even.
I'm lost in the middle looking fondly at both and wondering which one I would save first in a fire.
fuck the cat, they have 9 lives or whatever
Dave, cats have 9 lives...
15:12 - What came to mind when he said "... *fake* online *university... promise of a job they're never going to have*"? LOL... Trump University? Ya, me too!
I love cats, but upvote for the dead cat joke :P
Great interview. Dave should let him speak without interrupting though, but all in all good
Dave, I'm a "dog person" too, but I also like cats, so I could be called a "cat person" as well, so these things aren't exclusive to each other.
respect
Guys, you both are the best))
It is always fun when the cat will play fetch. My cat does that and will also try catching its own tail. I think she must be part dog.
Really, It's small world...
Mahmoud Mohammad if you have planes and 16 hours of time to travel, yes ;)
Yes Dave, Definitely...
love it
Can I come to Bell labs too?
Good to see both of you together, but Dave, please stop talking over your conversation partner every time. It is super annoying, first because I also hate when someone talks over me. Second, I am not a native english speaker, and I don't understand a word if you talking simultaneously. Respect him a little and let him finish his sentence.
Regarding the length of the videos: I think curious and information-hungry people likes to watch longer videos if it is interesting and filled with valuable content. And both of your videos are like that. Making super short videos for average people essentially lowers the quality and value. Not the averages watching yours and there are other channels for crafters.
understand a word if you're*. I am a native english speaker, and I turn on the captions for assistance. Sometimes it's the only clue I've got to what has been said. So suggest that they stay apart for the sake of the captioner, not your underrated ability to swim through two completely different dialects of a language.
I know exactly what your talking about when you say videos drive up prices. I have seen that myself. Do a video on a radio and within a few weeks the prices double or more and they all disappear from ebay. Hmm, we should get a kick back. ;-)
Social dopamine administered, thanks guys. :)
Why do you hate cats Dave?
Shahriar could easily get millions of female subscribers if he would do beauty consulting mixed with some ASMR. And I’m very glad he doesn’t …
Dog are like 2 year olds, its me me me now now now, always want something. With cats, they are like teenagers, you only see them when they Want something, food, grooming, place to sleep.
quick summary: TH-cam ... channels ... video ... view mesure ... youtube fatigue ... online education still suck ... subscribers and comments.