Taejin Fight - Analysis, Resolutions & Proof (Burn The Stage)
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This is my analysis of the fight between BTS Jin & Taehyung @ V on Burn The Stage Ep 4. It doesn't have to be accurate ... it is just my personal opinions.
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"Apologizing does not always mean you're wrong and the other person is right. It just means you value your relationship more than your ego." - *Mark Matthews*
Very true.
Very very true 😊 but I get emo in this video
Absolutly, proud of jin
True
Mad respect for Jin 😭💜
My respect for Jin grows even more. He was not at fault, still he apologized. And when he was hurting, no one comforted him.. I wish someone had hugged him at that time.
Yes 😢
Definitely yes💜️
Hey we are looking just video don't come in the conclusion behind the scenes we don't know. BTS 7 in the early stage when we are young blood we fight. But the main thing realizing & saying sorry is important. It was the year 2018.. They were thinking to disband in MAMA award they mentioned.
yaa but its all ok now actully tae was just putting his point of veiw on jin but its actully disrespcting at all but still just look at the pure heart of our jin
I'm pretty sure the members comfoted their precious Jin hyung. We only saw a little clip after all. Namjoon was focused on Tae bcz he was literally crying and it could mess up their performance. They are supposed to smile and look energetic on the stage.
Jin saw how much Tae was hurting, he immediately apologized. In Asian norms, its hard to see an older people to apologize to the younger ones if they have misunderstanding. Age hierarchy is what Asian people emphasized upon. For tae who wished for best performance must be really hurted because he unintentionally hurted Jin when conveying his words. His tears proved that. The best thing is, they become more closer after this fight and tae become more protective with Jin's position as eldest hyung. #taejin
apa kes but they're not asean.
Larasati Valdania oh. Asian. my bad, sorry.
It's true tho. Actually I noticed their relationship became better after their tour.
as an elder sister myself, i know how Jin probably felt, it's hard when the young ones unintentionally disrespect us, even more for them as they are part of a society that gives more important to the age
Jin really has a huge and soft heart he was also broken and sad but he apologized to his younger brother and moved on he is so strong person I’m so proud of him and love him 💜
I respect Jin a lot for being the bigger person in this, he knew he wasn't on the wrong but still took the initiative to apologize, he did it twice.
Tbh they were both at fault and both admitted where they were at fault; even suga addressed both faults so it’s not the case of ‘he knew he wasn’t in the wrong’
@@moonchimm1497 but if you look at it , it was v’s mistake at the begining. he went too far so jin couldn’t made it properly. and he accused jin for that.
@moon chimm the comment still stands tall coz jin did apologize.
I agree with everything you Said btw
@@moonchimm1497 Its literally on camera that V was in the wrong and then tried to come for Jin, Jin has every right to get offended and protect himself against someone trying to accuse him of something he didnt even do wrong.
Actually Jin tried to make a joke of Tae’s feelings and that’s when things started to go sour but truth is .. I feel a lot was left out. People don’t get this emotional over “choreography” moves .. this was something deeper between them building up and finally spilling over .. both of them claimed fault and both made up quickly and are extremely close ( they were close before and even closer after ).
Jin had done his very best. He's still singing abit while have to turn and run fast. So it was not easy to keep up with the tempo. I somehow understand why Jin felt frustrated. Love TaeJin.
But it was not Jin's fault though. Huh I can't believe how pure of a soul he has! True respect 💜🥺
@@a-z1534 ahhh
A fight between two siblings, resolved as a team. This is what BangPD said when he was asked how they resolve arguments. They talk it out on their own, not only the two people involved but as a team. This is what makes BTS stand out. Whoever said their relationship is fake, it is not easy for men to cry infront of other men. This is pride we are talking about. And the age gap between Jin and Tae is quite big. It is not easy for Jin to make the first move to apologize. It involves being humble, accepting wrongs and apologizing sincerely. They know how much it affects their team, how the staff see them, how the fans will possibly notice the changes. This is the very reason why I love BTS all the way. It makes me teary eyed to see that beyond the facade they show on stage, they are humans like us and we could connect with them because these are real situations. BTS Fighting!
Beautiful words luv. Sum up everything about the boys. hearteuuuu
Thank you ♡
U r soooooo damn right...
Even the oldest, the most playful & cheerful, and the positive member of the group gets depressed and unhappy. In those times, he wants to be respected, comforted & supported by the others, like what he does to the other members. The moral of the lesson here... is to be sensitive of others feelings. Iam so happy this misunderstanding is over.
yeah, and I hope other members sensitive to Tae's feeling as well. I hope they stop saying "he is weird" "can't talk properly" or scold him "learn korea Tae!" during broadcast. Tae used to be the most cheerful bts member. now I feel like he has lost confidence in himself.
I hope they can understand each other
love BTS
@@ry6543 He didn't loose confidence. He became more mature and professional. The members are together bcz each of them understands each other. And Tae is always loved by his members.
So plzz don't spread toxicity here.
If V didn't took farther steps, there's no problem at all for both of them turning back to the middle. Jin was right he would lost his tempo since his position is on the other side, worst scenario he would probably strip/slide. As I can see jin run as fast as he can. Anyway respect for V as he explained his concern. Communication is listening and that's BTS
Agree ...
My respect to Jin grew more and more. He is just too precious. Even though he is not at fault, he is the eldest, he still apologised first. Even though Tae rolled his eyes at him for apologising.
And I felt so bad for Jin, Even though he is the eldest he get hurt a lot too. I just wished someone should have gave him a hug too. Only a staff member came for him
It's amazing how they resolved the whole issue and turned it into Taejin treat...my Taejin heartu 😍😍
Jin! The fans know that you're working hard backstage. Don't worry. I'm rooting for you!❤
The modified choreo gave them both better vision and time to react. Smart move
This incident made me jin biased,he is truely wise and kind man❤
Thats a Quality content ♥️ Thank you 🙏
Thank you for watching
Jin always gives everything good to the members and swallows everything that's bitter himself. I hope that when he dates, he'll find someone who is willing to do the same for him.
Jin is so pure
This was hard to watch! First- spring day always makes me so emotional, I don’t know why and it kept playing. Second the fight. Just watching them argue makes me so sad. I know it probably wasn’t the first time but watching it is different. I’m so glad they made up and are ok. You did such a great job with this even if I got sad. #lovetaejin
Me too. It reminded me a lot of my school friends :-( . Thank you for watching tho.
I have no words 😭thats how beautiful this video is.
These boys always makes me emo 💘
the most important thing is how they resolve their dilemma. seeing them make an alternative for that problematic part and then having fun and interacting at that part makes me smile :)
i am so touched by the way they solve the fight T^T they even turned that part to a taejin moment
Awww .... thank you. (Hide under the bed) XD
BangtanMyBangtan love u!! (sending many many heartu ❤ ❤ ❤)
That is why jin is my bias 👏😘❤❤
In this situation taehyung is not the poor sweety because he can cry but jin is holding in so he is the actual poor here cause he can't express as jin said he always show his bright and funny side. I felt jin is hurting but not showing that so others can be happy . Although Taehyung is my bias but jin is really hurt.
Wow what a detail observation with conflict and resolution background..love it🖒🖒❤
I definitely see what Jin met, by he was doing his best. I would also get confused if I had to, sing and count the timing. Jin isn’t he best dancer so he probably has to try extra hard. I think what hurt Jin the most was even tho he said he was doing his best he was told to try harder. I think that would hurt anyone’s pride! But I’m glad they made up ^^
that's why suga said fighting is good😍😍
This legit made me cry. So so grateful I found this poignant video 😭I saw some vile comments about Tae being a 'drama queen' and 'playing the victim' on another video about the fight and this healed me. Thank you so much army.
excellent video army chingu, though I am Jin bais but can't help but think about jungkookie everyone knows he is so close to Jin and V, the official crybaby must have been hurt seeing them fight, I am glad it's all over.
Thank you
I wasn't going to watch this cause I didn't want to see them fight again but something changed my mind and I'm glad I did. Sort of...I can barely see thru my tears. Good tears but still tears. I'm about 10 years behind probably 3 million of you guys so I'm a bit late with this...😳 and still learning and loving it all. It only took me 60 years to find and fall in love with BTS. I wish I could have seen them in person. My health is not good and I probably won't see the end of the year so I won't ever get to see them. It just makes me sad.
Get well soon
@@saffingeorge3194 thank you dear.
Thank you. It solves a lot to those who are questioning and giving hate to both.
Woah!! Thanks for compiling those fancams! Glad they were able to be playful with that choreo 💜💜💜
I love you so much Jin.. you have a beautiful heart 💜
this is the best analysis i've ever seen. i know it's a lot of work to make these, thank you for pouring your time and effort into this explanation and putting together all the clips!!
The pressure is hitting them off, its so admirable on how they deal with this miscommunication & misunderstanding with each other. Kudos to RM on how he stand as leader of the grp, much much of respect and love to you guys.#btsforever
Jin wasnt joking, the gap too far (in performance before tour too) he run fast, he talk in low tone at first but tae keep saying jin should run faster again and again so he use that tone. plus tae bring it up some minutes before concert.
.but they make up quickly, all fine
I wish fandoms will do their best to resolve their fan wars like this too. The tensions that we created can leave bad impression on to people so please do be careful of your words when you express yourself.
Jin said if he run faster. he will not get the tempo. Jin actually hurt because Taehyung more young than him... But in the end..... They fix their friendship
It was touching
Right now what matters isn't the choreography, it's about their friendship. Glad it all worked out😊 Taejin fighting 💪
Great video btw
The explanation is so authentic and good. Thanks. Great job.
Yaaay. Their sweetness all started here in Manila 💜
Wow tht was thorough from start to finish. Well done 👍🏽
Thank you. Hope to do more of these types of vid soon :-)
Really I was about to cry 😭 especially when tea show heart to Jin
😌...Their moments are jux too precious. Tae💙Jin
I dunno why this vids analysis passed my feeds but I'm thankful. As new to Bangtan this vid analysis is the best, explained the situation on that time than any vids that been going round. The channel admin collected all SpringDay fancam vids around the incident happened. That's really awesome job 👍🏼 and she/he not forgot to cr to owner. I give most salute and appreciation🙏❤. Thank you.
Wow...love it so much. You are amazing.
Thank you. I hope you enjoy watching it. I'm still learning. :-)
Wow!!! Beautifully described. And i feel.. that fight really made their bond more strong. Because if that fight wouldn't have happened, then their choreography would have remained same. And now when they were holding hands... Showing finger hearts to each other.... It made the dance more special...
Nice work. I actually needed this today. :( Gosh, I love these boys.
Wow, so details. Thank you!
This was beautiful!
I would hug jin if I was there
Taejin 💜💜💜💜
Yes!!!!
@@BangtanMyBangtan jin tea love ❣❣❣🇰🇷🇰🇷
Okay so i think V walked a lil too far from them that's why he felt that Jin was not fast enough.
And this is the reason why I love BTS💜♾️
Brotherhood ♡
Lovely vid n observation after that incident. Bts become even closer after fight ☺they improve choreo n turn them into special moment for shipper.
Ha ha ... I can't EVEN with these boyz. I adore them so much.
Namjoon ♥
Good point you giving out here
👏👏
One thing left tho
It all started when RM pointed out about the gap that too wide. Its crucial, so it doesn't seem like Tae was the one who started the issue that made Jin felt uneasy.
Aaaa... That was Namjoon mentioning about his choreo & Jungkook. Actually I notice before every performance they would have this pep talk. Sometime it's JHope as the dance captain. I think apart from Tae & Jin, others had their small discussion too but I'm not sure why Tae & Jin escalated into a full blown argument. Might be Jin already thought he made a mistake so he already felt bad on that. Tae probably wanted to discuss on that to help Jin.
To me, both of them didn't do anything wrong but it became an argument because they both talked about different thing so they couldn't find a common ground. I think that it was this, so that's why Tae was talking about turning & getting ready while Jin kept on talking about tempo.
It's the standard 2-4-6-8 count. At this section, the count is 1. Tae turn, 2.Tae gave hand signal while Jin turn, 3. Run 4. Reach the group & proceed with tempo 5,6, 7, 8. The count 2 is the problematic one because it has count 2 and a half. While Jin might be still in 2.5, Tae is already on count 3.
I'm not a dance expert tho. Sorry that was long XD
Iv watched most of the 1million+ hit vidoes abut them fight, most Top coments are bashing V for pointing out Jin infront of evryone.
It seems there are armys who didnt see the whole video where Bangtan were discussing the choreo starting from RM, JK pointing to V, and even Hobi telling Jin to try js dat day. Jimin tellin JIN cudve listened, Tellin V to respect Jin more.
*I wished u had included that to seem more unbiased* since SOME ARMYs are busy pointing fingers at ONE member while BTS themselves said its BOTH THEIR FAULT.
But anyways.
Thanks fr the detailed analysis 💕
It's too bad that some ARMY did that. Actually my original vid was longer but as I'm a new channel I can't go over a limited time yet. Even with the short clips my vid is copyright claimed by Big Hit (hu hu hu...)
I think Tae intention was good. He did went too far from his position & I think he raise the matter up bcoz he wants to know if Jin would be okay with that. But I think the discussion went south with Jin reaction to it. And Tae got frustrated bcoz he couldn't express himself properly again. This happen other times too when the others actually gave him time to collect his thoughts. I also think it was more to stress of performing in US for the first time with a bigger audience. After Newark, they seem to be more relaxed.
But thanks for your points tho. I'll try harder next time. :-)
Wow ... love it so much. You are amazing.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 BTS Jungkook Taehyung 😘😊come 2025 😍😍
i love this video. thank's😳😍😊😊
Thank you for all the details
very sweet.! this makes the spring day choreo even more special
Thank you for this beautiful video.. 😢😭
this is such a pretty video.
We saw them quarrel and made up, we saw them cry and smile, we saw them that they are really honest to each other and repect and love care equally to each other 🥰🥰🤗purple you bts💜💜💜
they are all amazing in their on way❤ bts is life ❤
A blessing in disguise.
Thanks for this video, but i'm so glad our boys worked out their problems
Lovely video... 🤗
Thanks for make this video 👍😽👍
My lovely TaeJin 😘💜💜
Thanx million times💜 #V #BTS #btsV
The fact that Jin doesn’t show his emotions like our Tae doesn’t mean he was okay, specially cuz dancing was something very personal since even fans and people were commenting he is bad at dancing so that was a sensitive topic for him, we know he used to practice alone must of the time cuz he does not wanted to disturbed other members and I felt so sorry about the fact that he say a sorry first just because was the hyung and I saw how painful was for him this, anyways thanks for the video I’m happy to see our Taejin being happy together after that.
jin😘😍🥰💪👍
Jin's heart is very hurt and he says sorry 😓💔.He has a beautiful heart 😢❤️.I respect him.They should always be together like a group and a family ❤️🥺😌.
Does anyone remember that TaeTae said that his fav song is spring day when idol song won an award
I think this is not jin fault,but v either,coz the song is a soft song why they nid to hurry going back,calculation to go back ,jin is right if v is not too far maybe its ok .but do not cry over the spilled milk ,respect and trust is served❤
Oh my god, they started getting closer on this passage on my birthday. I'm happy, after all I really like Jin and Tae are the best.
Hola, dónde puedo ver esta serie? Solo encontré la película.
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🥰🥰💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 Thank you for this.
I'm crying so much😭😭😭
Fight teaches you the importance of relationship.. They became more closed after that fight💗😌
This is Bangtan 💜
They are humans and they work really hard and they are always being watched always on camera loosing a bit of temper is quite okay they respect and love each other that's the main thing . We all love them and they love eachother and us . Big happy family
Tq army... we love them all the whole world 💜
I don't see fight I only see bandana taes handsomeness
jungkooki hell'a hot I can't handel bandana tae that’s really unnecessary.
Hha me tooooooo😁😘😘😘😘
Armixer _ why???
I already give statement many times for fight .teajin love
So I here to see bandana tae handsomeness
Truly right? He seems like another person when he wears bandana. XD
6:24 the members just stare at jin and tae
Bangtan kapan w bisa nonton konser lu lagi 😍😍😘😘😘
9:13 I burst into laugh like a fool XDDD They are so cute!!!
wow thank you so much. you really explain it briefly...and I really feel relieved right now coz Im really worried about the situation but now, no worries
😊 Your explanation/analysis is very good n clear👍🏼 I’m curious if u are a fangirl or a fanboy.
Im not certain but I believe the fight was on d 2nd nite concert in Newark. It was prompted in Tae’s conversation w Jin in the original broadcast.
Aaaa .... I thought it might be on the 2nd night too at first, but after looking back at the Burn The Stage video (& other vids) I really believe it happened on the 1st night. The first clue is the date in the video. Yes, it might be edited but I notice on the night they had the argument, Tae had a red left earpiece. You can see it in their 'Not Today' opening number.
On the 2nd night, Tae had a black earpiece.
There's several hints too but so far, to me, that's the strongest one. :-)
BangtanMyBangtan
😊 yea .. Thk u for the video.
The good is talk of problems and go happy forever ✋🏻💘.
TAEJIN is real love 😭💘.
His problems are uniques.
How say Nam, imagine if is food 😂😂💘
LOVE SO MUCH TAEJIN 💘🌚✋🏻
👼💙 i love themmm
Their relationship is the best thing ever
I do love their relationship...
Beautiful and smart solution
They are so cute
Yall need to understand is that if Jin try to run faster he lose the temps and can follow the dance yall ignorant
It was not a big deal but maybe they were depressed and exhausted😢big respect to both of them they solve the argument perfectly👏❤❤❤❤❤