Racial Differences in IQ (Intro Psych Tutorial
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In this video I consider racial differences in average IQ scores. This controversy reached a peak with the publication of "The Bell Curve" by Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray in 1994. This led to publication of several papers on race and IQ stating that IQ is considered valid, reliable, and heritable, and that while group differences exist, the causes of these differences are not clearly understood. While concepts of race, environmental and societal forces, and genes may or may not all contribute to observed differences between groups, it's important to remember that knowing an individual's group membership doesn't tell one anything about that individual's IQ score.
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I always find it fascinating that certain people deny racial differences in IQ, but affirm racial differences in other areas of the body. Weird how different organs, different body parts, different genes have evolved over time between different groups, but the brain remained the same the entire time, no evolution at all, zero. At least, this is what one would have to believe if there are NO difference in race and IQ.
Racial differences were accepted worldwide until western civilization became heterogeneous and democratic. Then people like Marx, Locke, Freud, Ed Bernays and Walter Lipmann implanted ideologies to change the narrative
Yea, it's the funniest thing if you think about it. Feminist do it so often. They complain no drug or medical equipment gets tested on females. At the same time they say women are completly equal to men. Like girrrrrrrl how about you decide for one.
BTW if you're reading this and think those things should be tested on females for real - yes and no. In a perfect world it would get tested on/for females. It's often not economical, though. And don't forget that the standard male body is 70kg (forgot the height, but as you can guess rather short). Those 70kg standard male bodies are closer to modern women bodies than to modern male bodies lmao. At least I don't know a single 70kg male since leaving school.
Different organs?? What different organs exist between racial groups?
@@gorbachevdhali4952 I meant to say differences in organs, differences in body parts, differences in genes.
It just seems strange to me that all those things evolved differently, for different racial groups, but the brain, remained absolutely the same, no change all. Very strange.
@@dragonore2009 Sure. I think it's possible there are population level average differences in IQ, I think the real question is how much of it is genetic versus environmental.
My favourite Murray story is from a lecture when he started discussing people with less than average IQs. Some wokeling at the back jumped up and shouted 'How dare you describe anyone as having a less than average IQ?'
We observe the obvious, ....then try to disprove it.
No far-rightard argument, no leftist hysteria, just facts and straight clever arguments. Loved your video
He's white. He is clearly biased.
@User 2389 No one is legitimately trying to make every single person have identical IQ. The "equality" everyone is seeking is for everyone to have access to the things that help people meet their IQ potential: education, health, and peace.
Consider the Flynn effect. If you take an IQ test from 1900, you will score about 30 points higher. This is because IQs have risen over time. IQ is standardized so that the average IQ is 100 and most people fall within 85 to 115. An IQ of 70 is grounds to declare someone mentally retarded. So you could say by today's standards the average person from 1900 was retarded.
This is likely because mass education was not commonplace until the mid-1900s. Education matters a lot.
So when you see people from poor or war-torn countries scoring low IQs, you have to put that in context.
@User 2389 What evidence is there that the gap has stopped narrowing? I spent some time Googling but came up empty. I did find stats showing continuing environmental disparities that help explain the differences - ex. the poverty rate is 10% for white kids and 30% for black kids - and poverty in childhood affects development.
If disparities remain after everyone gets fair opportunities, that's fine. We don't need total equality of result and we would expect some random variation even if race had no link to genetic IQ factors.
But even if there is a natural racial disparity, you'd rarely be in a situation where you have to guess IQ based on race & demographic averages. When you hire someone, you don't just choose a random East Asian because IQs are highest among East Asians. You take 15 minutes to read the candidate's resume and interview them and you gets tons more reliable info on their skills from the way they write and speak.
@User 2389 Where is the trap? Even if total equality of opportunity is unrealistic and people are biased and tribal, I think what I'm saying matches the scientific evidence - that IQ is partially environmental and partially genetic, that certain families will be predisposed to be smarter, and the genes for high IQ do not fall cleanly along racial lines. There may be some genetic explanation for the racial IQ gap, but it's hard to confirm because we have identified no clear genetic mechanism - unlike the genetic explanations for race differences in and stuff like lactose intolerance etc.
I will admit that I went through Google Scholar for an hour and couldn't find anything clear on whether the racial IQ gap is closing, staying the same, or widening since the 2006. I did find this one sketchy 2018 meta-analysis by C.F. Comrie that said there were conflicting papers on the topic in 2012 but that's it. If you can find something confirming it held fast during the past 10 years I would appreciate you sharing because it would be really interesting.
I remember that when I was in university ten years ago, my psych professors were really skeptical about demographic criminal profiling. Yeah, most crime is within-race but that's not enough to finger a specific suspect. I think the more useful modern research was focusses on which people the victim knew with behaviour/personality traits that match the crime, like "She was stabbed 20 times and the body was never hidden, so we know it a was probably a crime of passion by someone less intelligent."
@Chris Coyne If you build a system and society where IQ is praised then through sexual selection the IQ could increase.
Everyone claims to be "woke" but somehow this subject has been swept under the rug to the point where it's not even a known thing.
Because when the truth comes out the whole leftist narrative falls apart .
@@dixonhill1108 "intellectual discrimination" ... you mean meritocracy? Yeah, that's the type of 'discrimination" that's good for the world.
People who are legally retarded shouldn't be commercial airline pilots.
In this crazy, woke world of alternative realities, science and the often uncomfortable truth have become dispensible, unspeakable and reprehensible entities to the woke, political left. Scientific studies are disected and the uncomfortable aspects are misrepresented and cancelled with the help of woke, PC-focussed media, while the "comfortable" bits are framed, hyped and indoctrinated to the unsuspecting public by the same organizations. This infantile effort to negate reality will ultimately collapse, as reality and its scientific analysis and explanations will always win against political ideology. But in the current environment, the world has regressed back to burning scientists and truth seekers at the virtual stakes of media outlets and platform-based public opinion.
@@samuellarsson3842 yeah you obviously haven't been paying attention. All you gotta do is google the term, genius.
@@christheswiss390 It's all part of the new alliance between Universities and the state . Just like with the church ... we need a separation .
I watched this two years ago while in my Graduate program because I couldn't get a straight answer from my PC professors. Utterly shocked (and pleasantly surprised) that this is still on TH-cam.
@Detailed Mess My body may be dead citizen, but America never dies.
"Utterly shocked and surprised this is still on TH-cam ".....do you people have any original comments?
@@ronaldtaylor8326 Do you have anything better to do with your life?
@@RealAugustusAutumn I'd ask you the same but we're all here lmao..
@@ronaldtaylor8326 Except I commented with purpose, you're just browsing
These tutorials are such a big help to me. I am going to school online and they provide a lot of solid written instruction but I am a very auditory learner so being able to hear explanations and ideas is just what I need. I am also SSD so I totally appreciate the lack of background noise and sound effects. Keep up the good work!
I'm glad that you're finding my videos helpful, thanks for commenting!
Good environments don't drop out of the sky
@Ed Kempe Yes, because Earth is known to be easily changed by ancient people
@Ed Kempe exactly
You're right, a government that support a majority creates that environment, it doesn't come from nothing
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@范德萨阿斯顿发大水发大水发阿斯顿发大水发大水发范德萨我和你吻别我爱你他妈的翔宇我和你吻别元的钱破开该 india has over a billion pp and so does china. africa starve thrm selves for stolen whiite farme rs land and not knowing how 2 farm 🤣 if they were over a billion they would resort to be cannibalss. they probably did uga buga
The takeaway point for aspiring psychologists in medical students is that speaking about any sort of difference will get you labeled as a racist and therefore some sort of a hateful person. Take your observation seriously and treat your patients fair, but don't make the mistake of having wrong thing for addressing reality.
Yes, exactly. We need to fight racism by dealing with the hard facts AND THEN DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT! I agree!
@@aquariia3723 I guess you didn't get what I was saying. People call truth racism now. I don't care about "fighting racism," I care about speaking the truth.
@@cm2973 Then you are not seeing the full picture. You are creating a division between yourself and the issue that needs to be fixed. People of these groups score lower because of the prolonged systemic issues they've been subjected to. What's the point of knowing the truth when you don't do anything with the information? It is like knowing what quadratics are, but not utilising it for building structures.
@@cm2973 To further my point, what is the point of science, then, if we look at mere facts but don't use it to benefit ourselves and society. You are placing yourself in this dichotomic thinking, and that's where issues start to arise. You have the facts that generally POC score lower, but it doesn't affect you, it affects these people. If only you could work both points of information could the quality of lives be improved. Think again.
@@aquariia3723 instead of bending facts to fit your ideas, make your ideas fit the facts. Until we speak plainly we can't address the underlying reasons (mostly cultural) that certain groups under-perform.
It is subculture and not IQ that holds many blacks back intellectually.
Did someone tell you that or what? You don't think that their 70 IQ's might have something to do with it?
@@beverlyhurd8556 He's right.
@@NanakiRowan You mean the part where he called you an ignorance racist bitch? Yeah, he sure was right about that!
Regardless of averages it’s important to treat people as individuals. Even intelligent people can do really stupid things at times.
We're talking generally - huge difference in context . Culture , breeding habits etc .
This cult of individuality ignores group identity. No matter how much people want for there to be only individuals, people will insist on their group identity. It is part of being human.
Yeah.... how's that working out for us?
I have spent hundreds of hours working all over the black community in my area and I have definitely seen and heard the large IQ difference playing out in real life. Feelings of inferiority masked as haughtiness abound here.
what are you trying to say?
@@lastraven7205 what do you think hes trying to say?
@@teru797 ⚫️ have large intelligence difference
@@lastraven7205 Well do you think its true or not?
@@teru797 I'm black and its true lol
As a student this video has been very helpful
Watch videos on Identical Twins separated at birth and then reunited later in life and you will see that Genetics is THE BIG FACTOR in determining who we are, not nurture.
I talked to a manager once about doing IQ tests in the hiring process. HR had turned it down, their reasoning being that the way questions were worded caused the testing to favor certain races, and that races think differently.
One thing I heard was that IQ tests in America have been made harder over time so that the average still ends up being 100. So people from a 100 years ago would have scored lower on today's tests than the tests from their era. I'd be curious to see how those tests compare to these results.
that last paragraph can easily be tested by recovering the old iq tests and giving them to people who had their iq estimated recently
IQ is lie
@@greatgreat601 iq is real. In the world, at work, in comedy, in football, boxing, survival, etc.
@@t.albertobarbosa9615 Not true psihology is lie.
@@greatgreat601 TH-cam is quite sensetive when it boils down to these topics. But take for example boxing. The one with higher boxing iq will fight better. Some societies have thrived because of naturally higher iq. More organized, less crime, less hunger, more safe and peacefully. Others are at war, killing themselves, fighting, hungry, and destroying everything they touch.
Just as IQ is heritable, so are traits like aggressiveness or tendencies towards fight or flight behavior. The book “a troublesome inheritance” by Nicolas Wade describes how some groups have much higher levels of the MOA-A gene which scientists call “the warrior gene”. This gene explains why some groups are 4-5x more likely to end up in prison for committing violent crimes. But since we’re all not learning about this phenomenon, we’re destined to see a repetition of malevolent behavior and victimization.
Violent crime was never mainstream non-black culture, you have no real frame of reference
Have you considered other factors that lead to their increased aggressiveness and malevolent behavior?
@@davine405 Bro instead of asking questions try adding something to the conversation... dont be a waste of Internet space 😂
@@thephuckmaster9376 If I did, it would turn out to be controversial, wouldn't it?
@@davine405 Everything can be considered controversial depending on your audience. However, what are you doing with your life if your not willing to be risky? One can make the argument that there is no point in living if your not willing to risk and explore!
I think the reason people avoid this subject (as much as it's true) is that it can be used to discriminate, generalize, dehumanize and look down upon certain racial ethnicities very easily. And I say this more so out of experiences I've heard from others hurling unecessary nasty insults at people of different ethnicities a quoted example "You're all borderline and naturally retvrd3d, believe me you won't even make it to university and those of your kind who have done so only cheat or rigg the system. You should just be classified into a different species at this point!!!". This actually baffles me to this date. As much as I can say I have certain biases towards my own race, I believe in treating all who show basic decency, humanity and civilness, regardless of color, with respect and kindness.
Who would be more prone to decency, kindness, altruism, and self awareness, someone with an IQ of 105 or 85? THIS is why its become "taboo"
@@jameseldridge3445 There is no correlation between kindness , altruism and intelligence. The 105 IQ you refer to as altruist ( east asians) have a very homogenic mindset and are insistive on socially dividing people according to their ethnic backgrounds ( that means certain ethnicities are prevented from taking part in certain recreational activities ). The west still exploits and stunts the global south with their interest at heart, destabilized the middle east ( USA) for their own gain and ignoring this is ignoring reality Also this is a strawman to the point he was making.
@@jameseldridge3445 IQ has no correlation with Decency , kindness, or altruism you fucking idiot. Its been taboo because people like you create civilizations like nazi germany or the confederate states of america when left to your own devices.
@@jameseldridge3445 higher IQs tend to be less happy and lower IQs tend to be more happy I’d think the happier ppl are more prone to the things you mentioned just look at the down syndrome employees at the fruit isle of your local market
387 views, when im watching, I first searched for sex differences in IQ, and then you talked about race differences and I got intrugued as I realy liked how unbiased you seem :)! Great work
I live in scandinavia and it's incredibly hard to talk about these subjects over here.
Thanks! I've tried my best to stay unbiased and present the differing viewpoints as this is a complicated and controversial topic and I'm certainly not an expert. These are things that are difficult to talk about in many places, not just because of their complexity, but unfortunately because of character attacks and accusations of ulterior motives aimed at anyone who investigates these subjects. In some ways I think this can make engagement even more useful for students because it demands careful attention to methodologies, sensitivity to potential misinterpretations (intentional or not), and a willingness to set aside personal opinion or bias in order to attempt as much objectivity as possible.
Thanks for commenting!
I do have a video on sex differences if you didn't find it before (for which all of the above comment also applies) th-cam.com/video/MgllWKhO4ig/w-d-xo.html
@The Truth about Africa hurts Anyone who read your comment knows how stupid you are
@The Truth about Africa hurts your prevailing I.Q will surely make this discussion meaningless then.
Also, if you're gonna be racist at least have the balls to say the full word.
@@sumthing5382 do you have racists under your bed? And in your closet? And hidden into the shower. ?
@@buyanyjeansnecessary How rediculous your word is ! SO ....funny, hahahaha
And what do twin-studies say about the between group differences?
I once had someone try to argue that the iq test was racist, people will call anything racist; mostly due to their lower reasoning capacity
These people are so self absorbed in their world view that they need to shush
Anything making look bad X person's race is racist, untill it's too ovious.
Historically, the test was not exactly attuned to be as objective as possible. Racist is a strong word to call a test, but it cannot be denied that early versions of it had strong biases toward white, western culture. We should always be looking for ways to remove any cultural bias, especially since the goal is to examine our biology. This area of study has a tendency to attract “race realists” who love to use it as justification for their racism.
U from reddit?
they dont like unequal outcomes, except in sports because black people are biologically more athletic; but genes only influence whats on the outside.
This guy is just avoiding the elephant in the room. IQ and genetics is still a hot topic in genetics with recent studies done by BGI genomics (big Chinese genome company). Sad, but I don't think we'll see any more meaningful work on this topic come out of Western countries.
What elephant did he ignore? He obviously is not ignoring the topic since he put out a video. He summarized objectively the results of the research. Are you looking for him to emphatically state some conclusion that isn't supported by research but which is in line with your view? Where is this elephant?
oooooo. Where did you learn about BGI genomics? Ive never heard of it, and im on forums that discuss race without censorship. Although I know that recent genetic science outs intelligence inheritance at absolutely no less than 50% but probably more like 80%, something we all knew anyway. Where do I find those studies?
@@TrevorEMayo what he didnt cover, is recent genetic studies, obviously. But I have not finished the video... Im assuming he will probably only cover the Bell curve population studies -- something that has been known since the late 90s, so old news. These days genetics can tell what you look like, and how attracted mosquito are to you. OF COURSE THEY CAN TELL HOW INTELLIGENT YOU ARE --- that's just hidden because its controversial.
@@bevs9995 Wut where did u get that info from
@@TrevorEMayo they are treating you with kid gloves. If you want real read watch on this topic you need to leave TH-cam.
That was awesome. Cleared up a lot of things for me. Thanks for posting.
Great, glad to hear that!
The WAIS-IV includes motor skills and visual perception. Do we still have the same differences?
Everything We are is a mixture of nature and nurture
Genetics are very interesting. My parents were extremely smart but I'm rather stupid. I wasn't adopted either. I'm the youngest of 5, so there could be a correlation.
You have a unique type of intelligence that you hace yet to discover.
"Regression to the mean" means that, from conception, you were unlikely to be as smart as your extremely smart parents whether natural or adopted.
The fact that you even consider that you might be stupid makes it seem pretty unlikely that you're actually stupid. In my experience, most stupid people just kinda assume that they're smart and don't give it much thought.
@@N.i.c.k.H can you explain further
Also what are your references?
Does this explain why some kids are smart while having parents who did not complete school?
@@autopedia2647 Imagine that your parents each have 10 genes related to IQ, 6 are average (i.e. they enhance IQ), 3 are above and 1 is below - You will inherit 5 from each selected at random. You COULD get 4 average and 6 above or you COULD get 8 average and 2 below but MOST LIKELY you will get more of the average than either parent.
Races are very blurred in the USA. Research should be done in central Africa, central China and central Europe. where the gene pools are more reliable.
This is certainly an issue in the US (where lots of IQ testing has been done). This does mean that the US potentially offers more genetic diversity within arguably more similar environments, while other places may offer greater genetic homogeneity but complicated by larger environmental differences between people in those areas.
Studies have been done in all those places and line up the data used in the Bell Curve.
@@PsychExamReview Yeah, USA has a lot of race differences
Central Europe has no white people left mate
Research has been done in all continents, including Africa. This research has been summarized by Richard Lynn and others, and it basically supports the 'Bell curve', except that the average for Africans is even lower than that of African-Americans.
very edifying vid, thank you
You're welcome!
In regards to the argument about how caste systems show that intelligence is more affected by social structures, studies have also shown that even within one racial group, there is a genetic variation amongst different castes. A majority of caste systems, a member of one caste married and procreated with someone from the same caste, thus leading to the development of an isolated genetic population. In Japan for example, the genetic difference is observed in the phenotypes (a result of genetic and environmental factors) in which those of upper castes had more frequent instances of traits such as aquiline noses and fairer skin in comparison to the general population.
Skin and nose doesn’t determine intelligence 🤦♂️
@@jjj-bl8yf You missed his point.
One point that must be brought up is that it was the readers who made the racial difference a big deal, not Murray and Hernstein.
Fantastic video. I'm sorry to say though, if this ever becomes popular TH-cam will remove this immediately as hate speech and ban your channel.
Let's hope not 😅
They will
Nobody cares. I doubt anyone gives a shit.
Yes there is a difference. Yes, genes & race are a huge factor in intelligence and iq, yes blatts are ranked last 100% of the time the tests are done
@Proud2be White holy shit do you genuinely believe that? Because if you do, then you may wish to look at yourself. Because racism and prejudice are also inversely correlated with IQ.
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath Yeah no, a big part of my degree involves psychometrics, I am acutely aware on this subject. Keep your pseudoscience nationalist bullshit at bay dickhead.
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath Again, not an argument you moron hahah, I don't care about his credentials. The entire idea behind race and IQ is greatly misunderstood. You have to know he history of IQ testing to begin with before you even think you have a clue. And again, his authority means nothing when the entire premise of that argument has been debunked. I'm sorry that you're a racist piece of shit hahahahaha
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath Again, being offended at being called racist doesn't change the fact that I major in Neuropsychology. You're an idiot and I don't have any compassion for people like you.
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath have a link to his channel?
Nice and balanced summary of the situation.
I see now why the bell curve is a hated book it is the key that’s thrown away by those clueless to what it opens. This is not a key to hate but a key to change our environment and culture to be better. Genetics, statistics, nor math have hate towards anyone. It is the truth. Coming from a latino I’ve studied genetics psychologist loosely but I always had a thought that genetics played a role in intelligence I grew to learn it’s both environmental and genetically.
I have similar feelings and thoughts.
I’ve found these very interesting, I’m studying psychology at a top university in South Africa, and we focus on decolonising our perspectives (to an extent) and so our content on this focuses on the misuse of IQ tests in terms of race and not much more (yet, I’m only in 1st year). I wonder how your content would differ if you were from a non-western society
How is this a perspective? The brain is a computer. Just as different computers can be more or less efficient running the same program, so can human brains.
We know that based on evolution, populations exhibit an average of a gene as a whole. The efficiency of the brain wouldn’t be so radical a trait included.
You have to ask yourself if we are genetically smarter than Neanderthals, why did the measuring of genetic intelligence just stop there forever? Did the brain really just stop changing?
@@jeremyg591 This may be true but irrelevant. No one questions whether some people are smarter than others. The question is whether race plays any part in determining this genetically. That answer has been consistent. Despite looking for a hundred years we havent found any direct evidence for this and the indirect evidence points both ways. We just have no way of knowing what part genetics plays in determining differences in group intelligence. Too many caveats in the question to get a scientifically meaningful answer
@@jlrinc1420 I strongly disagree. Race has almost everything to do with our genetic makeup because race is just population clusters that have interbreed in isolation to the point of exhibiting totally different averages for their traits relative to other populations.
The only “misuse” of IQ tests is that it shows an unfavorable reality.
There is science to back up that
1) in total brain size subsaharan Africans have the least, East Asians have the most
2) in total neuron density, same thing
3) in frontal lobe size, same thing
The science is there. For instance, subsaharan children fail the mirror test longer than white or Asian children.
One of the reasons South Africa is failing is strongly due to the huge hurdle lower IQ communities face in integrating themselves into a society built with the complexities a higher IQ finds sustainable.
@@jeremyg591So you agree that we are more intelligent than Neanderthals, yet, they had bigger brains than modern humans, and later you argue that cranial capacity affects IQ between races.
However, I do like your comparison to computers, as it suits my stance better. A motherboard can be more efficient depending on how it is wired, like how we far exceed Neanderthals and elephants despite their larger brains, and yet, we differ in how we think, it's all wiring.
@@NullSeries Neanderthals may have been as smart or smarter than modern humans, but simply got out competed.
Europeans and East Asians tend to have more Neanderthal genes than sub Sahara populations with East Asians having more than europeans.
A quick google search turned up that subsaharan populations have roughly only a third of Neanderthal DNA compared to eurasians.
Like a genetic disease is studied by isolating a gene and documenting which gene causes that genetic disorder, which gene do you say causes IQ differences?
It's not just one gene. IQ is highly polygenic. It will be thousands of genes.
What are your thoughts on the theory of allotment capital and improvements in IQ?
Sorry, I'm not familiar with this theory and a search didn't turn up much. Could you clarify what it refers to?
@@PsychExamReview Thomas Sowell has done a bit on this vs what you are discussing here. I'll come back with a link. BTW I have my suspicions that you are mostly correct however keep in mind nobody chooses their race,gender etc
@@PsychExamReview slightly off topic but what are your thoughts on the Flynn effect?
@@PsychExamReview Basically the idea is iq improves via capitalism. Ludwig Von Mises made some interesting contributions to this argument although he was a eugenists I believe. His predecessor Fredrich Hayek argued against labour unions for this reason- being that forcing wages to go up causes capital to be allocated away from workers that need it the most, capital in the form of machinery, etc apparently aids progress. "By driving up wages these groups attract most of the available capital." - FA Hayek th-cam.com/video/4ZBXFeAj5lM/w-d-xo.html
@@PsychExamReview Now admittedly I've been working on robotics based solutions to food delivery riders in order to drive the costs of delivery down. A few of these delivery companies (delivery hero, uber, door dash etc) have been fighting labour unions. They are seriously a pain in the ass, especially given the margins are slim at best. These groups seem to attract the illogical (thinking a food delivery service can unionize is just laughable). So yes this is a perfect example of labour forcing capital resources into a market that doesn't need it. the bot: th-cam.com/video/Ms3ucjAyqjc/w-d-xo.html
You cleared that up. You got a new subscriber.
I'm east Asian and I think myself as not smart enough. We should watch people individually.
Being from a different curve is called prior information, and it does tell you something. You update that information as you get more information, but it's where you start from.
Good that you don't come with some conclusion, but rather state that this is a question we don't know the answer to as of now. We simply don't have sufficient evidence to conclude in either direction. We will have to wait for the geneticists to completely map out the genetic components to intelligence, and then we can find the answer to this question.
Who has Invented 95+% of all advanced / complex inventions, since 1900 ?
Not you or anyone else you know. This means that you're no smarter than blacks lol
@@NanakiRowan What a dumb thing to say. I bet I know what color you are.
@@beverlyhurd8556 Just because it's true, does not make it "dumb". Seethe.
@@NanakiRowan It seems that you are incapable of posting anything that is not dumb. I wonder why that is. Not. 🤦♂
@@beverlyhurd8556 Just because it's true, does not make it "dumb". Seethe.
The IQ curves you draw are not very accurate. They do not show the enormous difference at really high and low IQ levels. That is where the problem is. You don't need a Mensa-IQ to figure that out, but it helps :-)
Also, black and white mean difference is not 15%, is actually 100 to 70. So it is 30%. In the US, probably, because US blacks are very much mixed race, that also explain the gap shrinking. But for pure blacks and pure whites, the gag is steady 30 points. Also environmental factors: culture, economy, education are already accounted for. It is clear that the IQ difference is due to genes.
@@seanleith5312 IQ is lie
@@greatgreat601 Is Mathematics a lie too? Ask any psychologist, IQ test result is the most reliable indicator of success in career and life.
@@seanleith5312 carier isnt onliy matters in life
@@greatgreat601 iq denial is cringe
you can generally make assumptions based on large average differences but yes its good to treat people as individuals.
Sums it up pretty well. Thanks very much.
If one side has to assault u, call u names, and smear ur reputation to refute ur position rather than presenting counter evidence I tend to think they are running on emotions rather than facts.
In today's world the cancelled people usually wind up being correct.
Well, a blunt person I know once said while holding a glass of scotch, " One culture put a man on the moon, while another put a BONE through its NOSE !!"
@User 2389 Well one culture had early access to fertile, temperate lands and a variety of different working animals, and one didn’t. You can’t take everything at face value, buddy.
@@bignerd0452 then build a seaworthy boat and get the fuck going.
@@ImGoingSupersonic Going where?
@@bignerd0452 idk away from Africa. To fertile, temperate lands
@@ImGoingSupersonic Why?
Great objective analysis of the racial IQ bell curve! I think one thing that is often left out of this discussion is the relative unimportance of IQ alone in determining a person's overall success in life. While IQ is definitely important, behavioral differences and character attributes are probably much more important. Otherwise we would see nothing but people with genius level IQ running everything in the country, but that is not that is not the case. Regardless, college admissions should NOT be based on a racial quota system. There are colleges, universities, and technical schools in this country that are better suited to those with more average IQs.
you have a rational opinon
Have you heard about Garett Jones and his book "The Culture Transplant: How Migrants Make the Economies They Move To a Lot Like the Ones They Left"? I have very complicated feelings about this book
I'm not familiar with it, will look into it
Thanks for a non hysterical summary
Can results in IQ show capability in other forms of intellectuality, like a certain group being better in formal education and innovation, while another group being better in sport, music?
Also, does IQ have a part to play in level of humanity or morality?
Higher IQ is associated with higher educational attainment, so higher IQ children are more likely to do better in school and are more likely to earn higher degrees but of course this is just a general pattern and probably isn't too surprising. Similarly, more complex occupations like medicine, law, sciences, and engineering tend to have more high IQ individuals compared to other occupations.
That said, an IQ score can't tell us much about someone's specific abilities or interests, in large part because IQ tests don't cover many specific skills (like music, advanced science concepts, artistic talent, athletics, etc). This is sometimes used as a critique of IQ scores, but it's not a very strong one because IQ tests intentionally avoid specific skills, especially those that rely more on crystallized intelligence than fluid intelligence.
High fluid intelligence suggests someone can learn skills more quickly and easily, but the area that a person decides to invest their intelligence into isn't well predicted by just an IQ score itself (such as choosing medicine over law). There may be some correlations between verbal or spatial intelligence performance and certain general fields or occupations, but this is complicated by personality traits, interests, opportunities, economic factors, etc.
As for morality, I don't have a clear answer but I can suggest a few things to consider. IQ is negatively correlated with criminal behavior, which might suggest those with lower IQs are less moral. Of course, this may also be in part because lower IQ individuals have fewer legitimate job prospects, or in part because they're more likely to get caught if committing a crime.
Higher IQ individuals might be able to engage in more complex types of moral reasoning, but it's not clear that people actually use moral reasoning to guide their own behavior. Instead, we seem to rely on intuitions or what feels right. Moral reasoning might be seen as how we explain the behavior of others or try to justify our own behavior after the fact, so this may make higher IQ individuals better at justifying any immoral behaviors.
I'm not an expert on these areas above, so these are just general ways of thinking about it, if you find any interesting research feel free to share it here, thanks for commenting!
@@PsychExamReview Thanks 👍
@@PsychExamReview IQ scores measure G or general ability to do science, music, crafts, maths... So your iq score says a lot about who you are. Low IQ score also correlates with criminal behavior which some deem immoral.
@@deadastronaut2440 a weak correlation, which if iq does effect economic achievement, it could be that the poverty is the actual direct cause of the low iq individual's criminality, than the iq itself.
@@deadastronaut2440 I would say antisocial behaviour correlates more strongly with criminal behaviour. If we're talking about you know who, I think that's the issue. There are certainly many smart, friendly, geniune people among them, but the average disposition tends toward the antisocial. That leads to low social cohesion, inability to build on successes, lower efforts, crime, violence and ultimately suffering. Their academic successes is very secondary to the actual problems they face.
What do you think would happen if the government tried to make policies around this issue?
eugenics and genocide but people like this make this content in order to allow those policies to be established lmfao
@@Luca-nu2zg explain
FrozenNuts apartheid
@Polos Samastious i dont completely understand your comment. Could explain what those percentages mean please?
lol
Thank you for the video! All of you friends are super awesome! Oh, moments with this video are sad.
"Now wey awl da wite wimenz be at???" There's your IQ test.🙉
Now we kind of know why these differences are occurring, it's just that most people are physically afraid to talk about it.
You do ? I thought the cause(s) of variation was unknown. Please explain
@@obione6757
You didn’t get the memo? Is there any country, any place on the planet where some community is succeeding or does it fail everywhere?
@@obione6757
Try The Blueprint by Plomin and you should be able to comprehend it
@@obione6757
And most everyone, including you, knows but some can’t admit it.
4:50 "... there are many unknowns, and, in particular, that the causes of these differences between groups are not yet known." We do not "kind of know why these differences are occurring". We don't know. Everything these studies say is that there is a difference, and this difference can be the result of many factors (for example, systemic racism that makes education harder for the general black population to have). Yes, there seems to be evidence that IQ is genetically heritable. But not 100%. At most, a part of it will be genetic and another part will be environmental. And, since we don't have a controlled environment to test exactly the differences that the genes cause, we on't actually know how much they impact the overall distribution. And it seems to me that you did not watch the video, or at least not with an unbiased mind. Instead, you watched it trying to help your confirmation bias.
Can you address the race/gene questions based on the data Dr Murray cites in human diversity
I haven't gotten to reading that yet so I can't address it at the moment but when I do get to it I'll try to add some comments here
At 04:06 your curves a not correct!
It looks like you just shift the top.
You should shift the whole Bell-curve to the left or right. That would better show the real problem.: The difference in the relative number of smart and dumb people between different groups.
The reason this is swept under the rug is because so many people (understandably) take this as a sign of racial superiority. Some comments here reflect that.
As a black man I'm grateful to see that most comments here don't make me feel inferior, but proud to see fellow humans bow to uncomfortable truths and reject lies. Thank you for the video brother ✊🏿.
Edit: Not a black power fist. Just standing in solidarity with truth.
There is a reason for it. By equating these iq scores with different racial groups and then calling it genetic, they want to construct a picture of blacks as being inherently inferior and this also negates the burden of their exploitation of blacks for centuries. This also justifies the structural and systemic racism of their ancestors and racism in America even now.
@Trevor Very well said. Thanks for responding to Jurassic Grant.
Hey, after dabbling in this knowledge social situations may throw some people off (as they imagine how the person they’re talking to brain is processing all the information - when truly none of us know as we only have the knowledge of our own heads in us ) I don’t wanna come off racist. Just tired of my research going to waste. I see you have an open mind so I thought I’d share. Your comment even helps better prove my research efforts: which are- black people are naturally more intelligent then white ppl- here’s why. Melanin vs no melanin. You could tell how everyone would feel even when they read this. When it comes to emotions (the strongest power in the universe) black people naturally have the HIGHEST UNDERSTANDING - you’re brain works 10x faster then others due to your melanin as your whole body is your temple. Not just your brain. You often understand a situation to it’s full caliber , the knowledge you naturally obtain from situations and your hyper senses actually give you a major advantage. (tho balance is key to the universe ) . Tho , the portrayal of your thoughts might come off slightly less coherent when put to a IQ test but - when a situation comes to life or something happens in the heat of the moment you will often know exactly how it will play out so you may find yourself not putting in a effort in your social ques because you already know. So you’re just making conversation - you’re the top dawg don’t trip.
I'm black and my IQ outstrips that of ALL of my classmates (my class is 90% east asian, the rest are white). I have zero fear of this topic :)
@@braesidebikes4344 Well done I guess. The important thing to remember is that your IQ doesn't fully make up your character. I know plenty of intelligent men that have made questionable choices in life and dashed any chance they previously had at success. If what you say is true, do good things with your advantage.
Brain sizes between races are different that plays a part no one talks about for the most part
Brain size =/= intelligence. Einstein's brain volume was low-average. Also, classifying skulls by race isn't reliable - it's very easy to confuse the skull of an east-Asian individual with the skull of an African individual.
@Omar S do any animals have huge brains I dont even know
What is the current average IQ & SD for racial groups in the USA? What is the source?
For Whites it is around 100. Blacks around 85 with many being much lower.
@@beverlyhurd8556 Not 93. Page 146: Intelligence
New Findings and Theoretical Development: "It is important to note that there is a dramatic decline of Black IQ with age. Four-year-old Blacks are only about 5 points below Whites of the same age, whereas at age 24,
Blacks are 17 points below Whites. " Note that this 1.1 sd! This is because of the Wilson Effect. The gap is smaller for younger folks, but by age 14, genetics surpasses the effect of environment - largely because genetic contributions to people's aspirations, temperament, and ability to delay gratification has time to cause greater differentiation
It's estimated to be between 90 and 93. "Black Americans Reduce the Racial IQ Gap: Evidence from
Standardization Samples"- Wicherts and Flynn, Psychological Science, October 2006
@NanakiRowan When Dickens and Flynn (2006), wrote, "Blacks have gained ‘‘4 to 7 IQ points on non-Hispanic Whites between 1972 and 2002, they sidestepped our (Rushton and Jensen's) citation of Shuey’s (1966) review of the literature, which shows that Black-White IQ differences in the United States have remained at 15 to 18 points, or 1.1 standard deviations, for nearly a century. For example, she found 23,596 Black draftees in World War I (1917) had an IQ of 83 (vs. 100 for Whites). For RECENT data, we cited the meta-analysi by Roth, Bevier, Bobko, Switzer, and Tyler (2001), which also shows a mean difference of 1.1 standard deviations (range of 0.38 to 1.46 standard deviations, DEPENDING ON THE TEST’S G-LOADING, based on 6,246,729 individuals from military, corporate, and higher-education samples. Roth et al. found any narrowing of the gap was ‘‘either small, potentially a function of sampling error . . . or NONEXISTENT for highly g loaded instruments.
To claim a 4- to 7-point gain for Blacks, Dickens and Flynn chose three independent tests showing medium gains (the Wechsler, Stanford-Binet, and Armed Forces Qualification tests) and relegated to their Appendix B four or more tests showing lesser gains. They excluded the Wonderlic Personnel Test, which they acknowledge showed a gain of only 2.4 points for Blacks between 1970 and 2001. They excluded the Kaufman Assessment Battery for Children (K-ABC), which Murray (2005) described as showing a loss of 1 IQ point for Blacks between 1983 and 2004. They excluded the very g-loaded Woodcock-Johnson test, which Murray (2005; whom they cite) described as showing the conventional gap of 1.05 standard deviations for the third (2001). They also excluded the Differential Ability Scale, which in Lynn’s (1996) analysis (which they cite) showed a maximum gain of 1.83 IQ points for Blacks between 1972 and 1986. To be compelling, however, researchers must take the totality of available evidence into account (Gottfredson, 2005).
Even the tests Dickens and Flynn did analyze do not support their conclusion. The alleged gain of 4 to 7 points is from a ‘‘projected’’ trend line based on a small IQ rise per year multiplied by more years than are in the data....
Dickens and Flynn’s claim of having chosen tests with ‘‘meticulous sampling’’ (p. 914) is inaccurate. It is widely known among test developers that although samples are carefully drawn to create a nationally representative sample for the entire population, they are not chosen to get an accurate estimate for subgroups such as Blacks. The most disadvantaged elements in poorer schools in inner cities are rarely, if ever, included.
Dickens and Flynn also sidestep theoretical issues. For example, Rushton (1999) showed in a factor analysis that the secular increases in IQ behave differently from the Black-White differences. Although secular increases on various tests cluster together, they do so independently of Black-White differences, which cluster with the g factor and genetic indices such as inbreeding depression and twin differences. The finding that the secular increases are not on the g factor and are qualitatively different from Black-White differences has been well replicated (e.g., Wicherts et al., 2004). Dickens and Flynn appear to confirm this observation, but do not provide context.
Dickens and Flynn covaried age to take the implicit position that no age differences are expected. Yet their increase was smallest for the oldest group, so it is unclear that gains made at younger ages will endure. Jensen (1998) demonstrated that Black-White IQ differences typically increase with age (because genetic influences become stronger over the life span). He used Shuey’s (1966) compendium to document that the average Black-White difference was 0.70 standard deviations in early childhood, 1.00 standard deviations in middle childhood, and 1.20 standard deviations in early adulthood.
A more satisfactory method to test whether Black IQ is rising is to use a sibling control group, as Jensen (1977) did in rural Georgia to examine the cumulative-deficit hypothesis (also see Jensen, 1980). Examining differences between siblings on the same test when they reach the same age and the same grade in the same school holds constant factors such as family back-ground and demographic changes in particular areas. Until the results of several such studies allow reassessment of the situation, the best estimate of Black-White convergence over the past 100 years is between 0 and 3.44 IQ points-a maximum effect size of 0.23-well within the predictions of our estimated heritability of .80 for the Black-White g difference in the United States".
@@hammockcamping2500 What does data from 1972 to 2002, have to do with a study from 1966? Also, if you want to appear credible in any discussion on this subject, I wouldn't ever cite anything from Rushton and Jensen unless it's to use them as an example of poor methodology and clear bias within the scientific community. I would try to cite a hereditarian that hasn't been associated with a far-right, white nationalist organization, so that you don't appear to be biased. Now, I will admit, there are no hereditarian researchers who aren't associated with a far-right, white nationalist organization, so you have your work cut out for you.
I’m a black kid from South Africa and I must say I was a bit worried that the video would take a dark turn. But honestly, I’m quite satisfied. I think that this was an excellent video.👍🏿
maybe that's the problem with your belief system.. u only want to believe in something that benefits your culture and makes u happy once your ready for all disappointment is when your ready for all spiritual relief and you will truly be happy!
@@thephuckmaster9376 Despite these claims and facts, you can't assume they're foolish or less intellectually gifted. Majority of art, styles of dressing, philosophy and even certain technology came from that continent. They are creative and actually some of the greatest minds stem from there. Yes, they are considered to be less intelligent but it would be ignorant to deny their contributions in the past and even today.
@@davine405 That's a misconception u cant consider them less intelligent than anyone.. I never once said anything about there intellect I'm speaking to one person and that's not you!
@@thephuckmaster9376 I am fully aware of that. That was merely a contribution. My apologies if I said anything offensive to you.
@@davine405 No need for apologies.. just don't let it happen again brotha.. carry on
Whatever genetic differences exist between races the fact of the matter is that they are so small as to be insignificant in the real world, humans are 99 times out of 100 more alike than they are different.
@@mikekane2492 There is no sound genetic reason for an IQ shift
@Trevor Yet still there is no sound reason for such a genetic shift to occur in these populations
what do you think of the argument that these tests are heavily biased
I think it's very weak. Early tests (and their administration) contained measurable cultural biases but this isn't really the case today. This argument is almost always a vague general criticism, and never points out which items are biased for which groups and why. If there were evidence of biased items on modern assessments these would almost certainly be adjusted or removed (which is exactly what has happened with biased items from early assessments).
@@PsychExamReview also do you think mental health conditions can be an influence on IQ?
@@Juliapak Yes, there's a number of conditions that are associated with cognitive impairment
I think his hand drawn bell curves don’t show some differences at the extremes
Life has facts and no diversity or inclusion will override facts.
IQ is just like height or athletic ability, there is significant variation between people.
No kidding! And the *average* black African has an IQ of _maybe_ 70. Think about that. Yet there are clowns out there that want to believe that we are all the same? I find that incredible.
@Racialist Slayer What kind of idiot does it even take to think that speaking truth and stating facts is "coping and seething" anyway? Always making a fool of yourself. You have a gift! 😁
So, if there is a 15 point difference between your IQ and that of your brother or sister, it's probably genetics, because you were raised in the same family with the same parents. That same IQ difference between 2 different ethnic , national or racial groups may have a bigger environmental, or cultural component. The rational view at this point, is to say we don't know how much genetic, environmental or cultural factors contribute to these racial differences.
In the "nature/nurture" debate, culture is often overlooked. Maybe some groups have cultural standards that encourage or discourage education, apart from social class or economic standing. You handled the controversy very well.
Why would the rational view be to say we don't know? Just because there are bigger environmental differences than between siblings? Surely the rational view is to evaluate the evidence, like that the more heritable IQ subtests have greater racial differences in scores, suggesting a high heritability of the racial gap.
I already know this guy finna kill dis vid
You sound honest, so I’ll just say that I much of your argument here has been disproven. Your operating axioms are two fallacies, the continuum fallacy, and Lewontin’s fallacy.The transracial adoption study compares children with the same genetics in different environments. My main contention is that in today’s society there is no acknowledgement that these differences exist and can explain away many social patterns.
I agree that there's some problems with some of the arguments presented here (which aren't really mine) and perhaps I haven't gone into as much detail as I could in the possible refutations. I think you're correct that both fallacies apply here; the continuum fallacy in that races may still be distinct even if the exact categorizations between them are vague, and Lewontin's because more genetic variation within races than between them doesn't necessarily negate a taxonomic concept of race. This is a controversial topic and as a result I think both sides tend to marshal any evidence and arguments they can find to "win", resulting in perpetuation of certain arguments, and, as you note, an unwillingness to acknowledge possible flaws in either the evidence or the arguments on one's "side".
@@PsychExamReview I appreciate the response
see thats what i mean these theories are just not right they are done in a manner thats not fair to blacks and other minorities. and i think its offensive if someone says that i am very smart and that its weird that im black its not right its like saying something positive and taking my work or parents genetics away and turning it in something negative to make themselves feel better
Minorities have had much much much less opportunity to build wealth and earn wealth. So top schools are still selecting whites much more than non whites, even if they’re using SATs not race as the basis.
@Daniel Ropierre ok racist
Actually, There are two groups in America who are much more over represented in top schools, and are higher achievers compared to Whites. These Achievement gaps start in highschools... So that makes two achievement gaps in US/UK/AU/Canada.
One of those top preforming races are asians.
Even if it's true if some "races" have varying levels of intelligence, it's important to treat everyone equally. What does it say about you if you treat fellow men as inferior beings? Should we enslave people who are born with mental disabilities?
Why is that EInstein's IQ is 70 points lower than Marilyn vos Savant , yet Savant has NEVER ACCOMPLISHED , whereas Einstsein HAS ?
Great video ! Only thing I thought was missing was how Murray defined intelligence. I think if people are aware of what exactly IQ measures they wouldn't be so opposed to it.
IQ is more connected to "masculine" traits or ways of living.
I wouldn't be surprised if Female Elephants/Lions/Bonobos/Ants have the highest "IQ" simply because they're the "leader" of the species.
Every binary species has a provider/caretaker ratio between them. Sometimes it's more or less balanced like with humans, sometimes most of the traits are given to only one sex, like with Anglerfish, or some spiders where males are absorbed/eaten.
The terms "masculine" and "feminine" is a bit misleading because it should be abstracted into agressive/passive, hoarding/distributing, two poles of the same arrow.
Test comment #10. Some races have higher IQs.
Subcultures is a crucial topic of discussion
Why bother taking data and looking for patterns, if you're just going to ignore it when making judgements?
There seems to be a racial difference in intelligence ability and one can sense that when the data is analysed.
It seems there is evidence that we are scoring less than those of other races.
We are really not sure why this is happening so we will have to appreciate the dynamics of the results over the course of the next five to ten years
The reason why it's happening is genetics. Next step is to work on gene modification research like CRISPR so we can remove those differences via direct genome interventions
@@Ljosi Not only are you utterly wrong but your "solution" to a fake problem is horrifying.
@@michaelparker5478 right, if I point out that 1+1 is 2 you will say it's 3
@@Ljosi because using an arbitrary number like IQ to identify supposed flaws in people and then GENETICALLY ENGINEERING those people in an attempt to make them "better" is to be taken as nonchalantly as 1+1=2 right?
@@michaelparker5478 the 1+1 example was for pointing out that I use logic while you use emotion. No matter how hard you want it to be 3 it will always be 2. In other words, genetics determine everything about you including your neural structure which determines your intelligence. This is non-debatable, it is a scientific fact, the information is easily accessible and verifiable. Denying it just prolongs the search for a proper solution and opens the doors for another holocaust if the wrong people get hold of political power in the near future, it's much better to openly discuss it now while we still have a somewhat stable hierarchy
THE GAP IS GETTIN SMALLER BECAUSE THEY MADE IT EASIER
AND SELLING A WHOLE BUNCH OF CRAP THAT ISNT USEFULL IN THE WORKFORCE
also mixture
It's simple it's like everyone can't be good at sports why is it a bad thing if you're smarter than other people why
Why can't i leave replys
I'm not sure. Some comments are automatically deleted and don't show up in my comment manager. I only delete comments or replies that are clearly spam
@@PsychExamReview This is like the first time ever I comment and leave replys so it may not be on your end.
@@uberyogs5730 I'm able to see this reply so maybe it's working now
Having traveled a bit, I can say that your discussion and explanation of intelligence (which is not the same as IQ score) is very western centered. I took an IQ test for Kenya and scored very low, though I am above average on Western tests. The questions were very challenging items of logic and reasoning; they were not items one would ever likely see on a Western test but were very relevant to functioning and education in that society. Takeaway: Calling a test an "intelligence test" is a value judgment by the society who made up the test.
Interesting, I'll certainly admit that my discussion is based on Western approaches to studying intelligence and I'm not familiar with tests designed in other places. Social values certainly play a role in conceptions of what intelligence is and how it might be assessed but ideally a test would predict performance on a range of tasks regardless of one's cultural or societal background.
@The Truth about Africa hurts LMAO
Progressive matrices tests control for and remove all cultural bias. The IQ disparities remain.
But the tests aren't comparing foreigners with natives, they're comparing people within the same countries.
8:00 lol, no, it's always linked to genes. Italians don't score the same. Northern Italians score about 102, Southern Italians score below 90 on the average. It's not social economic differences at the root. It's obviously dna differences, hereditary differences result in different outcomes, different environments.
The environment is worse in southern Italy your an idiot
@@thevictor5116 Why is it worse though? Because the people there happen to have different genes than the ones from Northern Italy they have different ancient ancestors. Research the dna results.
@@thevictor5116 "You're" means: "you are", chucklehead.
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr in an article that I read it was stated that northern Italy has more tourism than the south. Also southern Italians cluster with Greek populations.
@@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr in an article that I read it was stated that northern Italy has more tourism than the south. Also southern Italians cluster with Greek populations.
If a culture selected for intelligence, meaning the most intelligent mated that would change everything
Why should this be balanced?
But we can know the race of an individual by looking at his genetic admixture. Many early anthropologists classified Ethiopians with the Caucasian race by looking at the shape of their skulls. And indeed, a century later genetics proved that Ethiopians share a common ancestry with Caucasians (Europeans, peoples of the Caucasus, Arabs, Persians, etc.). So Ethiopians are not true Africans.
I don't think the argument that race is socially constructed should be taken to its extreme and I agree there are certainly genetic markers of different races that can be traced and analyzed, but I think the broader point that simple classification boxes like White, Black, Asian, Latino, etc. may be influenced by societal views (not genetic analysis) is worth some consideration. Thanks for commenting!
@The Truth about Africa hurts they don't determine someone's race because there Art Uniform features across races. Certain characteristics come up across different groups of people across the world. What they determine is someone's personal ancestry and where they may be from and then we prescribe that as a race but forensicss itself just like genetics doesn't have a box labeled black white or Asian.
abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=98485&page=1
slate.com/news-and-politics/2011/01/can-you-tell-a-person-s-race-from-his-or-her-skull.html
@The Truth about Africa hurts .....🤣🤣🤣🤣. Ok Mister Humiliation. I wouldn't go around boasting about that that when you say such blatantly biased and uneducated remarks. Not to mention your clear disposition towards your own beliefs that you continue to perpetuate by confirmation bias.
Okay... Literally none of that means anything to me. Mainly because I work in genetics specializing in African American studies, African studies and anthropology. Also just as you probably won't believe me, nothing of what you say makes me believe you. You claiming that it means nothing because you could be completely be making that up. And I would lean more towards that because of end-all-be-all you use your degrees as because you don't actually form an argument. Especially the "SJW support group" comment you felt compelled to throw in when you know nothing about me , and so blatantly shows your actual intentions that it makes me not only disregard whatever you have to say but I doubt it in general as if you're just another person creating a false passage to troll . Because someone who is actually educated in these fields that they claimed would be able to make a full response and breaking down the arguments instead of trying to position themselves as a person of authority and somehow declare that that means that they're correct without even knowing what the other person does. You don't actually provide any sources to support your beliefs, your source is essentially "trust me". You completely played yourself. Its damn near pathetic, if it isn't already.
And the mere fact you had all of your credentials is highly suspect. That's your first response instead of actually reading the information provided which is actually sourced and presenting argumentation on why you disagree. But that's the thing you don't have an argument because I venture to say that you're lying. Like your response is so comical it's difficult for me to break down just how hilarious it is. You say I have milia it myself but you familiar with it yourself by acting as if some letters behind your name actually mean anything when I know nothing about what you've actually done in the field, what you contributed, or if you agree with the scientific consensus of the field in general which you've shown that you don't.
Moroever, anyone that works in the field would not only know that the information I provided was about nuanced debate and nuances in the field of forensics. But for someone that knows so much then you would understand that the Anthropological Association in 1995 said race is not genetic so there goes the foundation for any argument you have. And continual genetic research and consensus continues to confirm this. An "sjw source"... It's literally ABC News and Slate. All your response shows thinking that you're going to have me late me, is that you're so blinded by your political bias and implicit racism that you don't even understand how uninformed you come across in a field of study you say you know so well. Please educate yourself because about the things you claim to know about because you look ignorant. In fact you didn't even argue anything you just wanted to act because you have these degrees, allegedly, you somehow no more even though you have no idea what I do. Just because you study something doesn't mean you know what you're actually talking about and you've made that apparent. Because what I stated was the most basic information that any forensic scientist, Anthropologist or geneticist would be able to tell you. The only reason you don't want to accept it is because of your willful ignorance.
@The Truth about Africa hurts
Moreover if your degrees are true, they have nothing to do with anthropology or anthropologic genetics. So all of these degrees you try to use to prop yourself up as a position of authority on the issue, without actually arguing the substance of of the issue itself but just trying to rely upon your alleged degrees which means nothing in the actual field in work, as any scientist would tell you that unless you contribute something you're a failure in your field, but have nothing to do with the topic at hand. They're slightly unrelated. Physiology is not genetic research. Forensics science is under criminal study not under genetic research. The closest you can get is about human genetics but you don't clarify to what discipline or field you work in. You can work in human genetics as it relates to food or medicine. Moreover when did you learn Because unless you're constantly updating yourself on new information what you learned 20-30 even 10 years ago could be completely incorrect and new information would have come to change what you previously learned. As they used to teach Mongoloid negroid and caucasoid in school's back in the 70's and 80's, they stopped in the late 80s early 90s because they realized that was wrong as more genetic research was published. So you have epitomized the example of someone who thinks just having been to school makes them an expert. The ideal image of an ignorant smart person. Someone who thinks they're smart but is actually stupid. Someone who thinks what they say is smart because they have a dumb image of what smart people are actually like. Not to mention the fact that you're clearly biased leaning towards racism because your name says it all. "The truth about Africa hurts" is so blatantly racist to where if you actually studied human genetics you would know that Africa is the most genetically diverse place in the world that everyone stems from . It's the Cradle of Mankind and has a oldest civilizations. But you're on a video about race and IQ, which already shows a negative predisposition towards racism, so that alone completely invalidates anything you have to say because it comes from a racist bias. Just because you studied all this stuff doesn't mean that what you have to say is correct or even matters. That's actually how scientists lose accolades and become discredited. It happened time and time again. In fact Nobel Peace prizes have called to be stripped for some and numerous scientists accolades taken away. Thats what hat makes me think that you've made everything up its your persona to act as if you know what you're talking about when in reality you don't and if you really did study this stuff than you would be so far away from how you think but that's why I'm pretty certain you're lying, but on the off-chance that I'm not right and you aren't lying will that's really sad and I pity you. Please actually read and educate yourself.
@The Truth about Africa hurts Your racist bias and stupidity is peaking my guy...
The genetic diversity in Africa is greater than in any other region in the world
www.geneticsandsociety.org/article/study-africans-more-genetically-diverse-rest-world
www.nbcnews.com/id/30502963/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/africans-have-worlds-greatest-genetic-variation/
www.bionews.org.uk/page_91054
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2953791/
blogs.bcm.edu/2018/07/19/genetic-diversity-in-africa-is-greater-than-in-any-other-region-in-the-world/
You nailed it sir. I wish you would have dug a bit deeper, but I’m assuming that was not the purpose of this video. The individual, the individual.
Solid breakdown. Tough topic. If you sensitive do not read up on this topic. You will not like findings.
It is damaging to the fragile minded race realists.
Solid video. This needs to be promoted highly
This is so blackpilling. Im black and I never wanna take an IQ test
I showed this to my professor and got expelled
deserved
@@marxchagall Why?
@@cat-uq5hw this is white supremacist bullshit and all these stats are quite literally taken from nowhere and have been debunked
@@marxchagall Why is being superior in your country looked down upon? Haven't you seen what Africans are like in Africa to whites?
@@cat-uq5hw did you ignore the whole point about the statistics being completely made up to spout some ethnofascist shit or what
People with low IQs make and maintain those environments. It might be environmental but also people with low IQs are more predisposed to get influenced by negative things in order to fit in.
they government should put in place policies which would ensure that the variables which can be controlled are maximized to ensure the greatest potential benefit for the individual in relation to iq
Then the government would be seen as racist... lol
That wouldnt benefit the government, they would need a more subserviant population that doesn't think outside the status quo.
I believe a major problem is that we continue to use eurocentric concepts and models to analyze all people.
So you basically say, that we should make different IQ tests for different races so nobody get offended? That's goes against whole idea of IQ tests.
@@mrnippletwister7342 no i didn't say that at all. All im saying is that, ideally, whatever tests we use should not be based out of a single region/culture. can we agree on that?
@@andrerichards7808 why? They just measure your cognitive hability. That should work the same for everyone, just like a car works the same everywhere.
@@elodin857 imho, a car is not a good comparison. however the concept of "correct driving" might fit better because it differs depending on region and/or culture.
what is considered "correct driving" in one place may not be so in another place, and it would be bad to judge someone else's "driving" when the truth is that they simply come from a different car culture. The same general concept applies to IQ imo.
@@elodin857 Hi again, Id like to share this podcast with you, it kinda covers the stuff that we are talking about and i love to hear your opinion.
www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/g-miseducation-larry-p
My IQ is 138 Standard deviation 15 based. I'm a South Korean lol
@@rumble1925 but r u guys rich doctors?
It's not true that we can't predict anything at all about an individuals IQ if we just know their race. Otherwise, you couldn't predict who is stronger, a 10 year old child or a full-grown man. Of course you won't be correct 100% of the time! But you can use the measure to predict things.
This is a really dumb example. When comparing adults of different races, the bell curve overlaps thus there are millions of blacks who are smarter than whites, and millions of whites who are smarter than Asians. You can't use an avg to judge individuals, your example makes zero sense, it's not the same kind of comparison.
10 year Olds are always not as strong as a full grown man though lol. There are lots of whites with below 85 IQs... I think you need to do some more reading or something.
@t a very good site on intelligence and race differences
The average Sub Saharan African would probably score higher average intelligence Quotients then the average Melanesian
@@giftya1893 Ignore him. He's probably working in Subway with his "high IQ" lol.
Okwu ID true
Real life is the biggest indicator for truth. I live outside of a major city, and you can see the disparity whenever you go downtown. I took the metro to a baseball game, all you see at the station are my people (blacks) either panhandling, playing music/dancing, or standing around smoking. On the commute it's all uppity whites internally fearful but having to subconsciously pretend it's due to the poverty or slavery. On the train we'll be the loudest and most disruptive, but whites have to keep quiet because they fear being called racist. We arrive at the stadium (in the most gentrified area) and its all blacks bargaining waters, hats, tickets, and whites give them money either out of guilt or shame. In the stadium its whites in the press boxes and office rooms while blacks do the most simple jobs like punch your ticket or pass out beers. Its just fascinating to me how unnatural the interactions are. More so how much we go thru life lying to ourselves about reality and why things are the way they are. I feel 2nd hand embarrassment when I'm in the city because they look at me and instantly play the white guilt complex or either expect me to act like the rest. Its like we've been fed lies about reality to shield our emotions, and if you don't believe the lie then you're evil, heartless, etc. I think the phrase is moralistic fallacy, but public opinion is definitely the most powerful thing in a democratic, heterogeneous society.
@Racialist Slayer The video is the evidence dumbass lol
Right you are, James. There is not a single intelligent person on the planet Earth that is going to dispute what you say here! Good job! 👍👍
@Racialist Slayer I, along with all others, shoot down your idiotic claims with every post that we make. And instead of doing the intelligent thing and quietly bowing out and going away you keep coming back to further prove us right about you and make an even a bigger fool of yourself. Hey, as long as you do not mind me and many others laughing at you then I'm OK with it too!
@Racialist Slayer How _hilariously_ funny it is that you keep calling facts as lies but for some reason when present 100% undeniable proof you suddenly quiet. Is there any way possible you can _stay_ quiet and not keep proving what a fool you are? I am guessing no.
@@jameseldridge3445 th-cam.com/video/nHsjiu0k3xE/w-d-xo.html
A good video to add to your collection
The four quotients do not come from heredity. For more details, please watch the sermon of the Light of Wisdom Church, welcome everyone to study and discuss together. Video “Everyone's Framed Structure of Life is Different ｜The Essence Of Happiness And The True Freedom 04”
If you think it makes sense, we must not only believe it ourselves, but also spread it to more people. Evangelism is not only the job of pastors, but also the responsibility of every believer. This is also the aspect that the Lord values most when ascending to the kingdom of heaven.
Let me see if i can assist all these higher iq people because the simplest expression of an idea seems to be beyond there capacity to understand 0:21, 12:25 and 13:01 ok i hope you found this helpfull.😅😅😅😅
Only someone very dumb or silly will try to claim that on average blacks are as intelligent as Whites and Asians are.
@beverlyhurd8556 Only someone like you lacking understanding or making unfounded claims would suggest, on average, that there are intellectual differences among blacks, whites and asians.
@@WOW23455 Only someone insanely ignorant would claim that mentally there are no differences in the races. For example: _All_ black countries are third world nations while _no_ White countries are. Care to explain why that is if there are no mental differences? No? I did not think so.
Unfounded clams my ass. Grow a brain why don't you?
Why is this guy not talking about facts?
Look at country iq's and look at their economic and technical success.
bruh i can tell you expected som far right bullshit
Yeah it’s horrible viewing. But needs to be acknowledged
@@oliverhopkins8074 to be acknowledged? nah
@@princeishere1693 but I mean its irrefutable once tou know what iq means
Dumb argument. Different civilizations have led the world at different times. IQ isn't ALL genetic. If that were true countries wouldn't improve like some have greatly in the developing world the last 30 years.