Exactly. Everybody calm down. Just let Lebron get of this slump. He is in a slump. It happens. He’s had slumps every year and has figured it out every year. Everybody calm tf down
Anytime people state the obvious they the same. Rich people don't waste time making petty comments. Of course nobody has money like lebron but we all know that.
Just think what the media thinks to bring up. Mike couldn’t care less. He didn’t play for 20 plus years. He retired twice trying to leave the game and goat convo is a media thing. His records in his time and contributions was great for the game. Lebron is trying to bring up these dumb conversations he’s got a media team bringing it up.
Players are more skilled today... Man please, dribbling out the shot clock and chucking up a step back 3 or passing it last second and hoping your teammates make a shot is not more skill
And Stephen A had ZERO objectivity when it comes to MJ 😂 He’s loud when pointing out LeBron’s flaws and expectations but gets quiet and has a list of excuses when it comes to MJ.
@@kobekobekobekobekobe He's the player of this generation because he changed the game of basketball. If lebron was the player, the game of basketball would be switching into a ground and pound, drive and free throw. But steph has changed the game so much that people are complaining about how all of these players are knocking down 3 pointers. When you have to guard someone from the half court line to make sure they don't ace you out, you're the player of the generation.
Why isn’t Stephen A mentioning the fact that those MJs numbers were above average, he played on the Wizards after being out the league for 3 years. 🤣😂😭🤣😂 These goat comparisons needs to stop. MJ is it…with Kobe 2nd….
Michael Jordan Bill Russell Tim Duncan Kobe Bryant Shaq Wilt Chamberlin Magic Johnson Kareem Abdul Jabbar Oscar Robertson Oh look, maybe Lebron cracks the top 10... MAYBE
LeBron has played 82 games once (2017-2018) and the year after only played 55 games. Probably not the best idea to be trying to replicate that at this point.
Or this is what he does and this has been his life for decades and he wants to do it til it’s not viable he’s still averaging numbers people would kill to have on their team
Then you also have the account for the much slower pace which makes it easier to preserve energy and get back on defense with everybody walking the ball up Court. So MJ is 36 minutes a game would probably be closer to 32 minutes a game now
@Stephz77 that's more of a casual myth when Jordan was a wizard The League average in free throw attempts was actually higher lol. Does not automatically equal more free throws
@JAYSPLASHMUSIC not necessarily. Points per game doesn't adjust on a one-to-one ratio. Especially for an older player. LeBron played in a slower Pace era and his numbers didn't just jump up dramatically with a faster pace. Maybe it could for a player and their Primes
Who cares about minesota all the money is on the lake show😂 if you work on Media you know how to squeeze a Good scoops 😂 the fact you here bother to left some comments saids alot of their strategy to get people attention 😂😂😂
yup and some time off to get on the roids again then all a sudden omg all he needed was a rest for a week now he looks amazing smh we seen this story play out lol
@@amac9044mj was going against t-mac, paul pierce, vc, ray allen, iverson, and Kobe. That was the era of the shooting guard. And that was the reason he came back he said he wanted the competition against them
LeBron James has played all 82 games once in his entire career. Michael Jordan had two deabilitating knee injuries. And he had to get both of his knees drained and iced. Before games, at halftime, and at the end of games. He still played the all 82. That is the difference between the goat
Also, if there was a play in like LeBronze has been in the past few years the Wizards would've made the playoffs as well. Take out the Play-in Tournament, and how many times would've the LeBronze Fakers make the post season?
MJ on the Wizards was a fundamental Wizard. The fundamentals he showed was beautiful to watch. He lost 50 pounds in a few months and had to deal broken ribs just to get ready for the comeback. Then signed a million dollar deal which is basically playing for free and gave the money to the 9/11 victims. Lebron handicapping franchises making 60mil at 40.
Handicapping a franchise?! The Lakers haven’t had a consistent coach since LeBron been there. Vogel wins a championship, he’s gone. Darvin Ham comes in and now JJ
What is Shannon talking about? When Jordan went to the wizards he also didn’t have another top 75 teammate like AD playing with him like Lebron does. What is he talking about why didn’t MJ go to the playoffs.
I think because when Jordan won 6 rings he was credited for being the key piece, but when he doesn’t win, it’s because he didn’t have support. It’s the same narrative for great players all the time.
@majestic8831 Jordan averaged 20 ppg. He was one of like 15 players in the league to do so. Now look at how many ppl average over 20 ppg. It's 40 people now. That just shows how easy it is to score now vs back then. He would average more points if he played now.
@@j317 I still thought Michael on the wizards to average 20+ at 40 is still valid. This team has top 5 player in Ad , lebron is solid they need another élite scorer
Its kind of like how when a cop does something bad, and all his cop buddies do an internal investigation and come to the conclusion that the cop did no wrong 😂
I think LeBron is slipping because he may have other issues on his mind. He recently announced he was taking a social media break. I'm not a LeBron fan, but I wish him the best mentally.
lol no buddy shannon never makes excuses,, its SAS making all the excuses.."jordan didnt have help in washington".."they didnt shoot 3s in jordan's era"... "the league is soft nowadays"...its one thing after another
@@TheSlyfoxgamethe league is soft goofy and what help Jordan had in Washington? If he had a prime Anthony Davis. He surely wouldnt have a 12-9 record like Lebum does
It's the coach's law. Stephen A. Smith, the coach ain't holding anybody responsible on defense. He's not even taking nobody out. He's not letting the Lakers know that they need to put the other team in foul trouble within 4 to 5 minutes of the game because in the fourth quarter if nobody on the other teams in foul trouble, no matter what, they're going to lose that game because that's the name of the game when it comes to basketball
@@quo5048 Steph has significantly sub average finals games on his record too… I’m not arguing that they could easily be contenders but looking at a lot of this and last seasons Bron performances in losses…you can’t tell me with a couple more quality players (not even stars!) they wouldn’t have had/be having a much better season. Pelinka is playing Bron and AD out the later stages of their legacies
@@Chetanp1445 i like how they literally cannot say a single word of criticism on his play without going “well we know hes a legend, on the mount rushmore….”
The hypocrisy is crazy. This is the some roster that Darvin Ham had, and they expected the lakers to go to at least the WCF, which btw the lakers did go to the WCF Darvon Ham’s first year as the lakers head coach. Now they switch up the narrative for JJ saying the lakers roster isn’t great, and making all these excuses. Nope hold JJ to the same standard as y’all did Darvin Ham. Everyone is saying JJ is some kind of genius and Ham is an idiot when they both started the season 12-9, the exact same record, make it make sense. No excuse, if JJ is such a great coach, he better take the lakers to the WCF this year just like how Darvin Ham did his first year.
@@meekEd he’s clueless based off what? How is someone so clueless make the WCF? This is the same coach that won the in season tournament that everyone was making a big deal about and even hung a banner in the stadium, and was pouring champagne all over each other. However, now none of that matter because JJ is the coach and with the same record to start like Ham they move the goal post. Funny how that works.
@@jameelmorton6962 Media coverage of the Lakers is ridiculous, no argument there. But just because they have the same roster doesn't mean expectations are the same, that depends on what other teams do and a host of other factors. Coming into the season I had no expectation they'd compete with the elite teams in the West, especially with basically the same roster.
@@imaginatewithdad-n-me5245they push for ratings for him and it's failed time and again, seeing how the viewership is at an all time low. Why they need all these gimmick tournaments because Adam silver and LeBron are out of freaking touch with the world.
It was his idea. He doesn't have the mental toughness to play 82 games. Besides that he STILL ain't 40. We haven't seen Mr. Spend 3 million dollars on my body at 40 YET. Mike played his 82 at 40, and his stat line is similar. This fool been 38 for 3 years now. Tell me I'm wrong.
@@Dondada445-f2t"bogus" won two 3 peats, first retirement his father was murdered. Mjs bulls legacy is unmatched. LeBrons end in Cleveland and Miami were terrible. Mjs last moment in Chicago? Game winning shot in the finals. Something LeBron Has never done and never will do.
A 3-year absence and a whole lot less tread on his tires LeBron James came in this league at 17 years old, go learn basketball and stop trying to leave out context
@ChrisWilliams-dl4bn he never had to play anything but to God all he had to do was score and defend he didn't have to do everything that we've seen LeBron do has Jordan ever played senator power forward small forward has Jordan ever been point guard and Ben top 5 when he changed the point guard and won a championship like LeBron?
@@ChrisWilliams-dl4bn let's not forget Jordan lied about being Rusty when he came back and got beat by Shaq and Penny he already was practicing and had his gear in the locker secretly for more than a few months
That was his age 40 season. ESPN thinks they’re slick trying to make it seem like those MJ numbers were from his age 39 season to make LBJ look better. Those were MJ’s 2002-2003 numbers, not his 2001-2002 numbers.
Shannon defending Lebron is a weird type of defending, eerie, he will put down any player to take spotlight off of Lebron, those stats don’t mean anything mike was out the league for 2-3 years and came back, mike is still ahead, Shannon you just showed up to try and defend Lebron, that was your objective! We see you trying to manipulate, no worries these young people are catching on to it, they are smarter than what you think.
Lol at having to play 82 games being the reason a player is struggling... Jordan played 82 games at 40 on one leg... And its hilarious that Shannon saying LEbron averaging 22,10 and 8 is a great season for most players but we talking down on Lebron for those numbers... He's the same guy who puts down MJ Wizards numbers at the same age which were 23, 6 and 5... but according to Shannon Jordan was trash during the Wizards years... Make it make sense
Jordan only played 66 games the season before and didn’t play in the Olympics,Jordan wasn’t trash in Washington but he definitely wasn’t the same player he was in Chicago
He wants to play all 82 because Jordan did his last season at age 40. Period. It’s that simple. It’s not the competitor in him; he’s never cared about all 82 before. It’s simply saying he did what Jordan did and he has all the records so he’s the GOAT. It’s his ego plain and simple. He’s a narcissist.
Great segment 😂 SAS & Shay Shay together is great regardless but when Shannon is actually in the studio it goes to 10000%!! And Jeff Saturday is quickly becoming one of my fav people at ESPN period 🔥🔥🔥
@@Ninjersey1yeah but that clown was also just a bad coach, bad rotations, bad play calling and he didn't know how to manage time outs. Ham will never be a head coach again and he earned that with his stupidity last year. Stay in school, kid.
ESPN, when you show comparison stats on the screen, make sure you show turnovers, FT%, games played. Doesn't matter if you have 8 assist when you have 5-6 turnovers a game. All time league turnover leader LeBron, show that! Jordan came out of a 2 year retirement smoking cigars, no workouts, no money in his body, played 82 games at 40 years old and averaged 20ppg and still had a higher efficiency rating than Lebron's 5 turnovers per game and 70% from FT. Not to mention he didnt have a MVP contender on his team (AD) like LeBron does. Come on, Jordan would kill the NBA today. Players in today's NBA are not more skilled.They just shoot more 3s and play less defense.
Jordan got hurt that year and they were playing for a playoff spot and two it wasn’t surrounded by a top 5 player. For Jordan the Roster was the roster
These clowns can’t even get it straight. If MJ had an AD like caliber player in his final years with the Wizards he would’ve won at least one more chip. Imagine if he had KG to how LeBron has AD. But of course bronsexuals conveniently ignore these facts
@@javontaethames967 because NBA doesn’t value winning anymore, they already have Jokic’s name on the MVP even though his team is in 9th place in the west and 13th overall.
Look at them numbers… put some context behind them.. Lebron is minus 111 on the court. Jordan was plus 4 with the wizards. Jordan still played winning basketball when his team was loosing 😂
SAS said the Lakers can make the WCF just last week…
This is why I freaking hate his flip flopping a$$. He will say anything to trend.
Exactly. Everybody calm down. Just let Lebron get of this slump. He is in a slump. It happens. He’s had slumps every year and has figured it out every year. Everybody calm tf down
A lot of things can change in the span of a week, though. Lol.
It didn't take long to move off that train! 😂😂
That's why everyday talk shows are cancer to sports.
we can literally see jj's hair turn gray after every game. lolz
Probably no time to color it anymore
I wish your dad wore a condom, then we wouldn’t have to deal with you 🙄
@@MoneyGreenyou’re bald..
Hair dye bro. JJ almost same age as Bron
Wow you right. JJ has aged so quickly
“I don’t like to give a guy an excuse” continues to name a bunch of excuse 😂
ESPN’s daily checklist:
1- Lebron/Lakers
2- Jerry Jones/ Cowboys
3- Aaron Rodgers/ Jets
Lol
Rinse and Repeat 😂
What do you expect? Lol. Been like this for the last 20+ years
Cowboys weren't mentioned today on first take though
@@jeanettepanameno1896 Pays the bills. Nobody wants sports reporting. Ratings wouldn't get any ads. Cash cow as it's known in advertising.
Lebron and Bronny having a family competition to see who can play worse.
U broke though 😂
So r u 😂
I almost forgot to laugh that’s hilarious
22, 8, 9 is all star numbers. Please be serious
Anytime people state the obvious they the same.
Rich people don't waste time making petty comments.
Of course nobody has money like lebron but we all know that.
He's comparing a man who came out of retirement to a man who has been in the league straight through. Smh
EXACTLY why this debate always hits a wall everytime it's brought up
@philbrown126 💯💯💯
You’re comparing the goat to a team hopping scrub who takes PEDs
@@jaypalo Facts!!! Smh
Shannon bringing up the Olympics..? That was 5 months ago man. Come on.
It was less than 4 months ago, but I get it.
@@mikedownload4029 bro it was 5 games 😅😅😅
@@DagenLucas I'm not supporting LeChoke, I'm just getting the timeline correct.
MJ retired because he of poor bulls management kicking Phil out .
Shannon it's a true LeBron lover that Olympics have been five months ago we talking about right now
Mike has been retired for 2 decades and he is still a daily topic🐐
And I assure you Mike could care less about this conversation he’s enjoying himself somewhere warm relaxing lol
And we never hear from him unless it's actually of substance. Mj is comfortable in his skin, LeBron is insecure and it's clearer every day.
Just think what the media thinks to bring up. Mike couldn’t care less. He didn’t play for 20 plus years. He retired twice trying to leave the game and goat convo is a media thing. His records in his time and contributions was great for the game. Lebron is trying to bring up these dumb conversations he’s got a media team bringing it up.
MJ, Bron, and the Cowboys
Sports talk entertainments holy Trinity
Facts goat MJ be living rent free 😂 nobody will ever touch him
Not to mention the fact that Jordan played injured and he played both ends of the floor and he played nearly every game. There is no argument.
This has absolutely nothing to do with Michael Jordan
Stop lying
MJ took games off too
Big Facts!!!!!! 🫡
Hahahaha no. Lebron owns Jordan.
@@TheBrandonArroyoShowno he doesn't stat padder
When u done wipe your mouth
You just had them in the WCF last week. 😆 🤣 😂
😂😂😂😂
This is why you don’t take what they say seriously
They always flip flopping for views
Them and the GSw where always gonna be a play in team
@@alexcueto or just maybe they can change their minds and their takes aren’t set in stone.
It really hits different when it's not skip bayless defending mj
Players are more skilled today... Man please, dribbling out the shot clock and chucking up a step back 3 or passing it last second and hoping your teammates make a shot is not more skill
Exactly 💯 I been saying that for the longest, these players are not more skilled today. They were way more skilled back then.
Shannon Sharpe has ZERO objectivity when it comes to lebron james.
you gotta remember shannon on klutch payroll
@cyrussencila8879 Shannon is on the board of directors.
They’re both afraid to be honest
And Stephen A had ZERO objectivity when it comes to MJ 😂 He’s loud when pointing out LeBron’s flaws and expectations but gets quiet and has a list of excuses when it comes to MJ.
@@cyrussencila8879 Facts!
The man is the same age as the coach! RETIRE!😂😂😂
LeBron is 39 their coach is 40.. the Utah Jazz coach is 36.. by your calculation should all those players 35 and up retire too..!?
@@vincent5505
Anyone that only plays halfcourt shouldn't be there in the first place
@@vincent5505yes! Retire! Young players game (I’m 34) 😂😂
22/10/8 ...some of y'all should never comment on sports
Have that energy for Chris Paul
Stop comparing this guy to MJ, It’s insulting.
He’s not even the player of his generation; Steph Curry is.
lol what? even if it’s not lebron it’s kd bruh. kd got 2 fmvp lol what r h on steph wasn’t even the best player on his champs
Tim Duncan would ALSO like a word.
Kobe Bryant was in Lebron's era.
Lebron is MAYBE top 3 of his generation... maybe.
@@xcwarriorYea I’m not putting Bron over Duncan (who beat him twice in the finals) or Bean….and I’m not putting him over Kareem, or Magic.
@@SojiFro_0 you guys just be hating😭im not even a lebron fan, you can think he's number 1 or 2, but worse than the other guys you said lmao no way
@@kobekobekobekobekobe He's the player of this generation because he changed the game of basketball. If lebron was the player, the game of basketball would be switching into a ground and pound, drive and free throw. But steph has changed the game so much that people are complaining about how all of these players are knocking down 3 pointers. When you have to guard someone from the half court line to make sure they don't ace you out, you're the player of the generation.
Lebron is in Bronny form at the 3 pt line
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0 for 24 my GOAT just get into the paint😊
LeBron is no good let him go now he killed l a
That's an insult to Bronny. Dude is putting up the worst misses in NBA history. He's not even getting close to hitting the backboard.
@Ordovician71 you right
The Media are secretly furious about the Lakers not playing well, it just makes this all the more satisfying 😂
With that roster it wasnt anything else to expect
@@nicstone3141lol get lebron off it and they’re better
Hating at its finest
😂this is how casuals talk basketball 🏀 lol ❤
@@AR-ey6gnthat’s a straight face lie 😂 AD shot 4-14 yesterday as well. Even Anthony edwards had 9??
Why isn’t Stephen A mentioning the fact that those MJs numbers were above average, he played on the Wizards after being out the league for 3 years. 🤣😂😭🤣😂
These goat comparisons needs to stop. MJ is it…with Kobe 2nd….
Wow you should t talk about basketball anymore 😂😂😂😂
Michael Jordan
Bill Russell
Tim Duncan
Kobe Bryant
Shaq
Wilt Chamberlin
Magic Johnson
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Oscar Robertson
Oh look, maybe Lebron cracks the top 10... MAYBE
@ if Larry Legend isn’t in a top 5 list, that list isn’t legit….
@@elliottwilson2352 lmfao
@@RafaelGarcia-xl5qr Fair point. There's a reason I said LBJ only MAYBE cracks an all-time top 10. Do enough research, maybe he's only top 25.
LeBron has played 82 games once (2017-2018) and the year after only played 55 games. Probably not the best idea to be trying to replicate that at this point.
He wants to be like Mike so bad 😂
Yea but thats strictly because of Solomon hill
I mean he gets payed to play simple as that
@@jorgeosterman5715
'integrity is a word used to describe a person's commitment to honesty and a willingness to do what's right'
Ain’t nobody playing 82 games and where is Vanderbilt? 😂
He's playing for numbers, and a longevity argument, because it's the only one he has. We already knew this.
Or this is what he does and this has been his life for decades and he wants to do it til it’s not viable he’s still averaging numbers people would kill to have on their team
"Thats all he has" like having 40k points 11k assists is something to look down on lol.
@@Ace-0f-Spadez if he wasn’t claiming to be the goat, or having people in the media cape for him as such, then yeah.
bingo
@@MelloHubb you watched the video right? It’s about the goat debate.
And some youngins say Lebron better than MJ??? thats a Insult and joke...
Mike the 🐐 period
It's not even close. MJ far more superior
Period
Shannon get his feelings about LeBron it’s weird
I get being a fan but Shannon got a different type of fandom like it’s wired
@@YgbkjHe either getting paid by clutch or he got some sort of feeling for LeBron
lol yall loving nicknaming passion when it's not a passion you share. Not everything is "weird" fam lol
So to do MJ fans
Just like y’all old JDRs and mambaknights get in y’all feelings about jordan or the dead man
The way Lebron is playing this season, is worse than MJ was on the wizards.
U not serious
@@QuanBerryyes😂😂watch games not box Score. Give Wizards Jordan AD
@ more than serious. Plus, LBJ getting max dollars. Come on
Jordan was good on the wizards, anyone who says otherwise is ignorant. The biggest problem he had was injuries
@ he was an all star as a wizard. LeBron was a household name and the way he’s been playing right now. He wouldn’t be close to an All-Star this year.
Bron has had a remarkable career. But it's looking like it's that time
Calm tf down.
@@jaylenparker8781it’s time for him to retire
@@Triigga86 no what he needs is load management. He got zero rest after playing hard in the Olympics. He needs to stop tryna play 82 games
@@jaylenparker8781LeBron is done
@@jaylenparker8781 fan girl 😂
I thought Darvin Ham not calling timeouts and rotations was the problem
@@darrelllovetthrc1904 JJ Redick and LeBum are the problems.
@@darrelllovetthrc1904 Trust me im a Bucks fan it definitely was😂😂
It was a problem last season
@@OMAR-vk9piit's still a problem
No, it was Russell Westbrook and Darvin Hamm and the war in Gaza that was the problem...
league average during Jordans wizards years was around 95-100 points. Today its 120-125. Lebrons 22 is really 15 in 2000s era
Then you also have the account for the much slower pace which makes it easier to preserve energy and get back on defense with everybody walking the ball up Court. So MJ is 36 minutes a game would probably be closer to 32 minutes a game now
@@str8duvalMJ would also get more free throws this day and age since league is so soft. That’s why LeFlop has high scoring
@@str8duval sure but the +30 scoring would reflect as higher ppg. MJ would average in theory 25-30 being more 3pt volume and more shots
@Stephz77 that's more of a casual myth when Jordan was a wizard The League average in free throw attempts was actually higher lol. Does not automatically equal more free throws
@JAYSPLASHMUSIC not necessarily. Points per game doesn't adjust on a one-to-one ratio. Especially for an older player. LeBron played in a slower Pace era and his numbers didn't just jump up dramatically with a faster pace. Maybe it could for a player and their Primes
Time to load manage and beg for help, so where is Bronny😂😂😂
No soon he'll ask to be traded back to Cleveland
It’s time to take his talents back to south beach
lol and when the team loses you dont blame the help, you only blame lebron
Bronny is home playing 2K.
@@jenkericj if he does anything of that nature, his legacy would not matter AT ALL!
ESPN talking about the Lakers’ struggles instead of the Timberwolves’ win?? Oh my. What a surprise (sarcasm)
‘If it bleeds it leads’
Both teams suck . Doesn’t matter
Nobody gaf about Minnesota
Who cares about minesota all the money is on the lake show😂 if you work on Media you know how to squeeze a Good scoops 😂 the fact you here bother to left some comments saids alot of their strategy to get people attention 😂😂😂
And that’s why nba trash they still stuck on LeBron nuts not marketing others
For once I actually agree with Stephen A
What about last week when he said lakers would be going to wcf. Or when next week , hel say theyl win the league
Stephen a. be so happy when shannon be in the studio😂
Cause they both zesty brothers
Molly is annoying af
@@ProofnDadetails& Look At U Here Early To Watch Em 😂🌈
@@ProofnDadetailsyall say the weirdest things on the internet
😁😄😄😂
0-19 from long range is diabolical.
Bronny-esque
😄😄😃
Enhance your vocabulary
@@TheInfamousThey305 horrendous, how’s that?
@@TheInfamousThey305diabolical, insane, wild, crazy = tiktok brainrot
Idk why this age old conversation is still so entertaining but the back and forth is hilarious 😂!
Fake injury incoming
Just like Steph
Then go and gets juiced up
@@Goatlikeitornot???????????🤔🤔
@@brennangilbert3332Yes Steph is shooting trash this year. Considering his reduced minutes and his standard this is bad
yup and some time off to get on the roids again then all a sudden omg all he needed was a rest for a week now he looks amazing smh we seen this story play out lol
I’m just glad to see all of them physically in the studio. It’s magic!
Thank you been seeing a lot of these comments i think espn will take note and its been peak, that Dan orlovsky segment back and fourth was Cinema
You sound fruity lol 😂
@@brooklynblack9015
Black dork
Maaaan when SAS said “what” and double take at molly with his hands on the table omfg 🤣🤣🤣 12:33
Omg I wish they get Molly off the show . She messed up the flow .
@TheRoad2Wisdom please bring back Cari Champion please
my god when she said "you just told on yourself" when SAS mentioned MJ being 40 I did an Omega Facepalm. Clearly she was not following the argument
Molly is great for the show, also fine.
Token
@@Enochrry6024fine?lol she is basic and also she ain't gonna let you hit bro
Stop bringing up the Wizards. MJ never had a great player playing alongside him like AD.
Man shut the fck up with this AD had 12 pts last night!!!
So his individual stats should have been better...
@amac9044 not when your the main focus of the defense, Lebron has that luxury with AD. And the defense today is terrible compared in the past.
@@amac9044mj was going against t-mac, paul pierce, vc, ray allen, iverson, and Kobe. That was the era of the shooting guard. And that was the reason he came back he said he wanted the competition against them
That Wizards team didn't have any expectations...that's the difference...that Wizards tenure was basically his retirement tour.
You gotta give Stephen A props I literally click because of him.
Love how Shannon said LeBron doesn't get all the fouls he should get......But no mention of all the fouls he gets that never actually happened
the two arent even close but go off King
😂 bron get like 4 free throw a game lol make it make sense
@@jerrodgarland2604they mask it by giving it to others he don’t want to go to free throw line
@@jerrodgarland2604lakers lead the league in free throws if LeBron wasn’t on that team they’d be like 15th
La going 2 the line more then any team
LeBron James has played all 82 games once in his entire career. Michael Jordan had two deabilitating knee injuries. And he had to get both of his knees drained and iced. Before games, at halftime, and at the end of games. He still played the all 82.
That is the difference between the goat
Jordan never had knee problems
MJ also had 2 retirement. Bron played 20 straight seasons going to 10 finals plus Olympics. I don't want to hear that mess
@@RL-ww5ev nah bro don’t use common sense on MJ fans
@@Cheis-be9jl he injured both knees as a wizard. I'm done with you
Big Facts 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Mj wiz was underrated didnt have anyone compared to bron? What yall saying. Mj 40 with one leg played 82 games.
Also, if there was a play in like LeBronze has been in the past few years the Wizards would've made the playoffs as well. Take out the Play-in Tournament, and how many times would've the LeBronze Fakers make the post season?
Why can't you just appreciate LeBron instead of hating?
Why Shannon always gotta bring up MJ when he is losing a debate? Shut up
The same way skip did
To make a point why can’t he bring him up?? Mj not god lmao
The brotha talks about Bron like Dan Olovsky talks about Burrow
Sounds like any mj fan ever😂
Man you wouldn't say to his face so you shut up
MJ on the Wizards was a fundamental Wizard. The fundamentals he showed was beautiful to watch. He lost 50 pounds in a few months and had to deal broken ribs just to get ready for the comeback. Then signed a million dollar deal which is basically playing for free and gave the money to the 9/11 victims. Lebron handicapping franchises making 60mil at 40.
💯
Preach
Handicapping a franchise?! The Lakers haven’t had a consistent coach since LeBron been there. Vogel wins a championship, he’s gone. Darvin Ham comes in and now JJ
@@AlphatrusBensIII LeBron and the Lakers have turned it into a circus.
@@AlphatrusBensIIIyou missed his point clown he’s talking about how LeBron took a max deal at 39 then crying about his bench 😂 dumbahh clown
I forgot why I stopped watching ESPN, then I saw this. Moly needs to go bake some cookies.
Molly trolling Shannon is actually funny!
What is Shannon talking about? When Jordan went to the wizards he also didn’t have another top 75 teammate like AD playing with him like Lebron does. What is he talking about why didn’t MJ go to the playoffs.
That's the more reason why MJ shoulda had more points etc
I think because when Jordan won 6 rings he was credited for being the key piece, but when he doesn’t win, it’s because he didn’t have support. It’s the same narrative for great players all the time.
The knee was the reason
@majestic8831 Jordan averaged 20 ppg. He was one of like 15 players in the league to do so. Now look at how many ppl average over 20 ppg. It's 40 people now. That just shows how easy it is to score now vs back then. He would average more points if he played now.
Shannon hes a straight hater lol,obviously he doesn't know basketball
Ohhh they're finally addressing it! 😮
Tip toeing being very careful
I mean it’s the lakers fault for relying on a dude who’s 40.
@yahiaali4059 ya didn't give jordan that excuse with the wizards and they were far less talented than these lakers
@@j317 I still thought Michael on the wizards to average 20+ at 40 is still valid. This team has top 5 player in Ad , lebron is solid they need another élite scorer
Why espn won't talk about JJ Reddick
It’s personal buddy bias. They know he’s no better than a Steve Nash or Darvin Ham but they’ll never admit it.
Stephen A doesn't like JJ. Stephen A knows that JJ will comeback and burn him.
FACTS. @@adventurek2066
Big facts 💯 but we know why💡
Its kind of like how when a cop does something bad, and all his cop buddies do an internal investigation and come to the conclusion that the cop did no wrong 😂
I think LeBron is slipping because he may have other issues on his mind. He recently announced he was taking a social media break. I'm not a LeBron fan, but I wish him the best mentally.
He scared about those Diddler tapes
Shannon is always making excuses
lol no buddy shannon never makes excuses,, its SAS making all the excuses.."jordan didnt have help in washington".."they didnt shoot 3s in jordan's era"...
"the league is soft nowadays"...its one thing after another
@@TheSlyfoxgameman stop it Shannon always make excuses u just bias if u don’t think Shay don’t make excuses
@@TheSlyfoxgame fraudulent "king" still gets excuses from LeMedia led by Shannon and Nick.
@@TheSlyfoxgamethe league is soft goofy and what help Jordan had in Washington? If he had a prime Anthony Davis. He surely wouldnt have a 12-9 record like Lebum does
@@xerospades Lol yall just keep moving the goal line for lebron, always saying he needs to do something else, thats all it is smh
Stephen A sounds like a Pastor doing a sermon on Sunday morning 😂😂😂
Did you just discover him? 😀
@Zett76 I can't get enough of this guy!
And he looks like one😆
@Boditos1 Yoooo!! 🤣🤣🤣
LeBron: ain't no party like a Diddy party
Its hard to watch this show with molly as the narrator
I like the lady that was there when molly was out
Y'all some women hating MFers I SWEAR. Same MFers that would love 🍆 her down, just as long as you don't have to hear her speak huh?
She is so annoying sounding, cuts in, and adds nothing to the show.
EVEN IF SHE DID. THESE ARE THE MOMENTS THAT MAKE FIRST TAKE SILLY AND INFORMATIVE 14:25
You’re just a virgin who couldn’t fxck Molly, and you know it. Typically incel behavior 😂😂😂
Shannon got cooked in this one LOL
He always does
shannon like lebron like diddy they all g4y
This was a good one & it was a long segment 😂
@@Slimreaper444 they let it rock haha
How? 😂😂😂😂 MJ lovers 😂😂😂😂
It's the coach's law. Stephen A. Smith, the coach ain't holding anybody responsible on defense. He's not even taking nobody out. He's not letting the Lakers know that they need to put the other team in foul trouble within 4 to 5 minutes of the game because in the fourth quarter if nobody on the other teams in foul trouble, no matter what, they're going to lose that game because that's the name of the game when it comes to basketball
Man its the same excuse EVERY YEAR.....NOT ENOUGH HELP smh
It’s true…
I guess in the 2011 Finals where he had 8 points he didn’t have help right.
@@quo5048 Steph has significantly sub average finals games on his record too… I’m not arguing that they could easily be contenders but looking at a lot of this and last seasons Bron performances in losses…you can’t tell me with a couple more quality players (not even stars!) they wouldn’t have had/be having a much better season. Pelinka is playing Bron and AD out the later stages of their legacies
@@melmoses894 Your king has had plenty of help and still lost
If he wants help.. stop taking up max contracts and diminish front office's ability to get solid role players
I love how every lebron debate will just eventually turn into a goat debate
Exactly
@@Chetanp1445 Michael Jordan is the GOAT.
LeBron is trash
Dude SAS called for a ISO camera😂😭😭normally he wants to see everyone in a wideshot
@@Chetanp1445 i like how they literally cannot say a single word of criticism on his play without going “well we know hes a legend, on the mount rushmore….”
The goat conversation between these 2 are the best
Stephen A. could have also mentioned that MJ was playing on one leg at 40 as well.
Excuses like always
Why is he there if he's on 1 leg ?
@@evertrobleto966how is that an excuse when he played 82 on one leg. Obviously MJ didn’t make that as an excuse
I’m almost sure Shannon has a picture of LeBron on his ceiling above his bed!
Lol
Most likely 🤣
😂😂😂
Now, the GOAT debate between SA and Sha is worth the money and popcorn!
The hypocrisy is crazy. This is the some roster that Darvin Ham had, and they expected the lakers to go to at least the WCF, which btw the lakers did go to the WCF Darvon Ham’s first year as the lakers head coach. Now they switch up the narrative for JJ saying the lakers roster isn’t great, and making all these excuses. Nope hold JJ to the same standard as y’all did Darvin Ham. Everyone is saying JJ is some kind of genius and Ham is an idiot when they both started the season 12-9, the exact same record, make it make sense. No excuse, if JJ is such a great coach, he better take the lakers to the WCF this year just like how Darvin Ham did his first year.
JJ Reddick actually has a slightly better roster, considering he has another shooting threat in Dalton Knecht.
@@diggidy5367very true
One of them actually try to coach. Darvin was just straight-up clueless.
@@meekEd he’s clueless based off what? How is someone so clueless make the WCF? This is the same coach that won the in season tournament that everyone was making a big deal about and even hung a banner in the stadium, and was pouring champagne all over each other. However, now none of that matter because JJ is the coach and with the same record to start like Ham they move the goal post. Funny how that works.
@@jameelmorton6962 Media coverage of the Lakers is ridiculous, no argument there. But just because they have the same roster doesn't mean expectations are the same, that depends on what other teams do and a host of other factors. Coming into the season I had no expectation they'd compete with the elite teams in the West, especially with basically the same roster.
The okc thunder have been the number seed for 2 seasons but you only talk about lebron
That’s because people don’t think they are experienced enough to win a chip.
That's why real fans can't wait till he retires so the coverage returns to sanity and not vanity.
Because ratings follow LeBron and they love to get people to debate how good he is or isn’t
@@sonyawilliams4989OKC, Denver, Bucks, Clippers, Rockets, Heat, Cavs, Grizzles are good teams with bad media coverage
@@imaginatewithdad-n-me5245they push for ratings for him and it's failed time and again, seeing how the viewership is at an all time low. Why they need all these gimmick tournaments because Adam silver and LeBron are out of freaking touch with the world.
7:47 funny moments like this is why we why watch first take 😂😭
ESPN is real slick...LeBron wasn't talking about his game he was talking about the team...LeBron didn't take accountability for anything
Loss = We
Win = Me
He's thinking about Diddy
No you are
I swear you clowns dream bout Diddy. Its scary. It's like you guys wish you were at these parties gettin played w 😂
@@whatupcuzz3155 exactly
@whatupcuzz3155 na you and LeBron mad he locked up
@@antno_2064 Yall mad your queen was getting trains ran on him by the higher ups 😂
These guys are crazy and I love it 😂
It was his idea. He doesn't have the mental toughness to play 82 games. Besides that he STILL ain't 40. We haven't seen Mr. Spend 3 million dollars on my body at 40 YET. Mike played his 82 at 40, and his stat line is similar. This fool been 38 for 3 years now. Tell me I'm wrong.
Bruh stfu. MJ took time off with those bogus retirements.
@@Dondada445-f2t"bogus" won two 3 peats, first retirement his father was murdered. Mjs bulls legacy is unmatched. LeBrons end in Cleveland and Miami were terrible. Mjs last moment in Chicago? Game winning shot in the finals. Something LeBron Has never done and never will do.
FACTS always trying to move the goal post
All I hear is both of them making excuses for their guy 🤣🤣
Factz @@emagenthompson9273
Jordan at 39 yrs was coming off a 3 years absence from the NBA and still average 20... WHAT ???!!!?!!!????!!!!??
Plus he played 82 games
A 3-year absence and a whole lot less tread on his tires LeBron James came in this league at 17 years old, go learn basketball and stop trying to leave out context
@ChrisWilliams-dl4bn he never had to play anything but to God all he had to do was score and defend he didn't have to do everything that we've seen LeBron do has Jordan ever played senator power forward small forward has Jordan ever been point guard and Ben top 5 when he changed the point guard and won a championship like LeBron?
@@ChrisWilliams-dl4bn let's not forget Jordan lied about being Rusty when he came back and got beat by Shaq and Penny he already was practicing and had his gear in the locker secretly for more than a few months
That was his age 40 season. ESPN thinks they’re slick trying to make it seem like those MJ numbers were from his age 39 season to make LBJ look better. Those were MJ’s 2002-2003 numbers, not his 2001-2002 numbers.
I love this show! The passion. Steven A. Won that debate. Shannon made some good points. They should do a court room debate. Argue who is the G.O.A.T
Shannon defending Lebron is a weird type of defending, eerie, he will put down any player to take spotlight off of Lebron, those stats don’t mean anything mike was out the league for 2-3 years and came back, mike is still ahead, Shannon you just showed up to try and defend Lebron, that was your objective! We see you trying to manipulate, no worries these young people are catching on to it, they are smarter than what you think.
they both g4y and neighbors who went to dozens of diddy freak offs
Lol at having to play 82 games being the reason a player is struggling... Jordan played 82 games at 40 on one leg... And its hilarious that Shannon saying LEbron averaging 22,10 and 8 is a great season for most players but we talking down on Lebron for those numbers... He's the same guy who puts down MJ Wizards numbers at the same age which were 23, 6 and 5... but according to Shannon Jordan was trash during the Wizards years... Make it make sense
Jordan only played 66 games the season before and didn’t play in the Olympics,Jordan wasn’t trash in Washington but he definitely wasn’t the same player he was in Chicago
One is year 22 and the other year 15, that’s 7 years more years of basketball
And, let's not forget: Bron has quit on D completely.
He currently has the 7th WORST (!) +/- in the league.
@@Zett76 that doesn’t have anything to do with his defense and Lebron has not been bad on defense this season
Jordan had 5 years off, his numbers should have been better
He wants to play all 82 because Jordan did his last season at age 40. Period. It’s that simple. It’s not the competitor in him; he’s never cared about all 82 before. It’s simply saying he did what Jordan did and he has all the records so he’s the GOAT. It’s his ego plain and simple. He’s a narcissist.
He’s concerned with the Diddy trial knowing he will be exposed!
Facts!
him, smith and shannon sharpe all like diddy. media only hire lgbt minorities
That was corny, smdh
You think but we will see @RBG1st
Not corny. Just truth. No joke.
I love these going back & forth with this....pure entertainment 😅
This show is trash. Bickering like little children is entertaining to you? This format is so played out and mind numbingly stupid.
@Phishyclit so you want to argue with me like a child 🤣
@@dubb9922 Nope not at all. Enjoy your talking heads my man.
Stephen A got this one
An octopus crawling on land has better body language than AD.
Skap Attack going to have a field day with this.
Skap attack is a clown
Don't forget uncut hoops
Love these debates
The Lakers will try and make a trade. Problem is, no one wants to play with "him"
Great segment 😂 SAS & Shay Shay together is great regardless but when Shannon is actually in the studio it goes to 10000%!! And Jeff Saturday is quickly becoming one of my fav people at ESPN period 🔥🔥🔥
Shannon is in person?! Love it!!
Anybody gonna call out JJ Redick I didn’t think so 😒
When the superstar is awful, no coach is gonna fix that.
call him out for what? lmao tf you want him to do here
Yeah don’t think Reddick is the issue
It's LeBron's fault😂😂
They will eventually
JJ will be out by early next season.
Now it’s JJ fault people can’t make shots 😂
@@darrentorain6278wasn’t ham fault either atleast Ham knew defensive strategies
@@Ninjersey1yeah but that clown was also just a bad coach, bad rotations, bad play calling and he didn't know how to manage time outs. Ham will never be a head coach again and he earned that with his stupidity last year.
Stay in school, kid.
ESPN, when you show comparison stats on the screen, make sure you show turnovers, FT%, games played. Doesn't matter if you have 8 assist when you have 5-6 turnovers a game. All time league turnover leader LeBron, show that! Jordan came out of a 2 year retirement smoking cigars, no workouts, no money in his body, played 82 games at 40 years old and averaged 20ppg and still had a higher efficiency rating than Lebron's 5 turnovers per game and 70% from FT. Not to mention he didnt have a MVP contender on his team (AD) like LeBron does. Come on, Jordan would kill the NBA today. Players in today's NBA are not more skilled.They just shoot more 3s and play less defense.
Tell me who MJ had as a teammate that is comparable to AD
Bro I’m a MJ fan but let’s not act like Pippen isn’t a top 75 player
On the Wizards team@@micah4494
@@micah4494talking about MJ at 39-40 like Bron is now
@@panopticstream1886 oh okay my bad. Yeah that’s facts, he didn’t have any good teammates on the wizards
Lebron has been playing for the Lakers for 6 years now. You cant blame AD for being there when Lebron was 35 lol
Shannon coming with the excuses
SAS is doing it
If not for hair club hair plugs , Lebron's hair line would be just like Steven A. Smith!
Jordan got hurt that year and they were playing for a playoff spot and two it wasn’t surrounded by a top 5 player. For Jordan the Roster was the roster
No excuses
Facts
These clowns can’t even get it straight. If MJ had an AD like caliber player in his final years with the Wizards he would’ve won at least one more chip. Imagine if he had KG to how LeBron has AD. But of course bronsexuals conveniently ignore these facts
MJ retired 21 years ago and Shannon and Bronsexuals keep bringing him up lmao. MJ is a 6 times champion with 6 finals mvp, LeBron can never do that
4 champ 4 mvps v
I recall Jordan still being a lockdown defender at 40 and playing 82 games. What gives?
How is James harden not talked about as mvp is crazy to me
@@javontaethames967 because NBA doesn’t value winning anymore, they already have Jokic’s name on the MVP even though his team is in 9th place in the west and 13th overall.
Stephen A and Shannon have really great banter.
If only they would fire Molly and just have Stephen and shannon
The Lakers are the Cowboys of the NBA and I’m a Laker fan.
They are going nowhere
He was in a slump in the 2011 finals...
And what be do the next two years 😭😭😭
@ Rode the best roster in the NBA. That’s what he did…🤣
And after those 2 years he lost again and ran and made another superteam just to 1-3 in the NBA finals in Cleveland.
Wasn’t long ago Stevie said the Lakers were going to the WCF. That’s why it’s go easy to be the no#1 show because you can never be wrong.
Lebron needs rejuvination in Miami.
stephen and shannon sweating the goat debate like they're in the game. 😂😂😂
Defense Defense Bron ain't never. Those blocks from the back dont mean he's a good Defense player. Auntin Shay Shay is the biggest Bron nut rider 😂
Shannon does have some of those feminine vibes toward LeBron 😂
Look at them numbers… put some context behind them.. Lebron is minus 111 on the court. Jordan was plus 4 with the wizards. Jordan still played winning basketball when his team was loosing 😂
Winning and losing at the same time sounds ridiculous 😂
Mj had kwame brown and LeBron has an NBA MVP candidate as a teammate, big difference.