I have a 40” swing lathe with 24” over the cross slide. I also have a 48x84 boring mill and they both sit under a 15ton bridge crane so if you got prints/ concept drawings I might be able to machine your adapter shaft for you.
The rolling mills are awesome, and look to be in excellent condition. Happy to see you saving this stuff. From when America, land that we love, was the steel capitol of the universe. Shortening the driveshafts shouldn't be to bad. The spindle and coupling, well yeah, that's a big deal.Keep goin',, Love, Dubs
I worked at universal stainless in Bridgeville , pa in 2004 & they had a series of bar mills linked together with short spindles a square billet could be turned into a round bar of various sizes. Glad to see your ambition in preserving industrial heritage. Third world countries buy these kinds of machinery because they know they were built to last indefinitely.
Pakistani Machinists are quite resourceful. They patented Steel Toe Sandals. Where in the USA can you find Machinists with a license to operate a steam locomotive. Preserving good creations is a fading Art.
i rain a tapper mill for living at Union Spring and manufacturing when my first son was born. That was the best I can do to provide, it was 140° in that mill and it was brutal physical work. I hand tapered the end of the coil springs you see on rail cars before they were coiled.
Maybe you could roll square stock into a small railroad track profile? Then you could cut them into small lengths to sell as souveniers for the museum?
A very fortunate break to find something this old and still intact. I recently came across somebody in the Southwest who was trying to reassemble a stamp Mill that was used to crush ore and due to their age and size aren't everyday occurrences. Seeing that large driveshaft there is a mill service company that ships them by rail to Mills in the Midwest and that's just one piece of the whole assembly. Thankfully your equipment is now off site and now the long range rebuilding can start
Very cool, not to interfere into your vision. When having that spindle made for the drive side. integrate a modern shear bolt to save the spindle from over torque and grenading the expensive spindle. Rolling mills are extremely technical and require a ton of knowledge. So reaching out to retired people from this type of rolling would be extremely helpful. Also, reaching out to retired mechanics who have worked on these specific mills will come in handy as well. I love this type of stuff as I've worked in a rolling mill for 33 years. Good luck.....
Thank you for saving this old iron.Reach out to titans of cnc and ask if they have someone in there program willing to work with you. They have one of the most diverse machine shops online and a huge base of people. Stay safe
You are a madman! The world needs more like you, with the vision and energy for preserving equipment and technology that needs to be saved for future generations to marvel over. I've got no reason to come back to the Youngstown area after 40 years, except to visit the J&L Narrow Gauge, and probably the Canfield Fair.
I hope you guys realize you have to live forever. There is too much to do, so you won't have time to grow old and die. Immortality is the only way to go.
You are going to need a proper boiler, even a package one, to operate that engine, particularly if it is going to power a rolling mill. One or two small steam loco boilers will not be enough steam to power that engine. That engine needs, no demands, quantity besides pressure.
Perhaps a deal could be made with a railroad museum to turn the coupling. They tend to have large lathes to turn wheels. Strausberg in Pennsylvania comes to mind,
As you described installing the rolls I was wondering if the track at the museum was formed by such mills? You guys are saving steel heritage history bit by bit and it very satisfying to watch the progress.
Most steel products came from rolling mills. These mills are perhaps one of the most important pieces of machinery out there that hardly anyone knows about. We are going to change that, if even in a small way. Nobody else in this country focuses on preservation of rolling mills. I am fortunate to be working on a giant 48" universal plate mill and now a 14" bar mill at the same time.
I remember back in the 1990's when I first got internet service coming across the Tod Engine/ Jeanette Blast furnace site. I was thinking this internet thing is pretty cool
I watch another channel 'Chris Maj', he's always turning and machining steel mill parts: blocks, couplers, spindles, takeup reels, etc... Not his business (he's just an employee) but he _may_ have a good idea where to get these things done. 💡😉
I'm a blank page to all of this stuff. I super enjoy all that is related to trains but I fail to see how these rolling Mills relate to Locomotives or railcars? Are you planning to build another Locomotive using fresh steel plate? Kindy reply to my question as I really don't know what purpose (other than historical references) these mills serve? Thanks!
Well originally the museum wasn't completely rail focused. When they aquired the 58 and finally restored their focus shifted to the rail equipment. Their main focus is to preserve all the equipment possible from the steel manufacturing industry as a whole! Not just the trains even though me and you find that the most interesting.
8lb or 10lb rail would be doable. The 8lb rail is 1 9/16 high by 1 9/16 base while the 10lb rail is 1 3/4 high by 1 3/4 base. I have the rest of the dimensions for the head and web.
@@hamiltonsullivan6563 it still belongs to the mill property and is for sale. We did not have the resources to move it off site and instead refocused on the rolling mill that is much rarer.
Might be a bit difficult with the equipment we have. But could be possible to make the smaller sizes. Who knows. We will get it installed and then figure it out from there.
Ah, I see you are new to this channel. Welcome aboard! Others said the same thing when we got the 58. Heck, putting this rolling mill together is going to be far simpler than that restoration was!
" If you have to ask, you can't afford it " seems to apply. Or he got it for such a steal that management doesn't want it be known to someone else who wanted to buy it for more, but wouldn't keep it local.
These videos are about sharing the interesting work that we do and the machinery in our care. Funding is a necessary evil and probably not that interesting so I don't talk about it. I put everything I have into this and find ways to keep things moving forward. We keep costs as low as possible (one of the reasons we have solar, to eliminate an electric bill) and try to do as much in house as possible.
I misunderstood what you are doing. You are setting this up for historical purposes, not to sell bar stock to customers. I worked in hot and cold rolling mills my whole life, 43 years. Good luck!
With all that new, very heavy equipment, it's a good thing you got a narrow gauge railway to move stuff around.
Excellent news! And great plans for the future! Possible product for the rolling mill: small rails for small gauge railroad museums??
I have a 40” swing lathe with 24” over the cross slide. I also have a 48x84 boring mill and they both sit under a 15ton bridge crane so if you got prints/ concept drawings I might be able to machine your adapter shaft for you.
I will certainly be in touch once we figure out the design and prepare drawings. I have a friend doing the CAD work for us on all of this.
The rolling mills are awesome, and look to be in excellent condition. Happy to see you saving this stuff. From when America, land that we love, was the steel capitol of the universe. Shortening the driveshafts shouldn't be to bad. The spindle and coupling, well yeah, that's a big deal.Keep goin',, Love, Dubs
I am so glad this heritage is being preserved.
Omfg those tiny rail switches are cuuuuteee
Y’all are AMAZING !!! The Vision, the Energy, the smarts . . . you are truly an American HERO !
Sweet!!! I hope you open it up because I’d love to see it. Im only an hour away.
I worked at universal stainless in Bridgeville , pa in 2004 & they had a series of bar mills linked together with short spindles a square billet could be turned into a round bar of various sizes. Glad to see your ambition in preserving industrial heritage. Third world countries buy these kinds of machinery because they know they were built to last indefinitely.
Pakistani Machinists are quite resourceful.
They patented Steel Toe Sandals.
Where in the USA can you find Machinists
with a license to operate a steam locomotive.
Preserving good creations is a fading Art.
i rain a tapper mill for living at Union Spring and manufacturing when my first son was born. That was the best I can do to provide, it was 140° in that mill and it was brutal physical work. I hand tapered the end of the coil springs you see on rail cars before they were coiled.
What a fantastic project!
History is always worth preserving
Awesome bro, Youngstown Steel Heritage has been on my bucket list for some years now. Cheers!
Come on down! We will keep the water boiling for your visit.
Awesome
As a former Assistant Roller at USS Irvin Works, I have nothing but respect for what you have going on here. This is fantastic!
Thanks! Greatly appreciated.
Just the fact that you were able to move that thing is amazing.
Maybe you could roll square stock into a small railroad track profile? Then you could cut them into small lengths to sell as souveniers for the museum?
A very fortunate break to find something this old and still intact. I recently came across somebody in the Southwest who was trying to reassemble a stamp Mill that was used to crush ore and due to their age and size aren't everyday occurrences. Seeing that large driveshaft there is a mill service company that ships them by rail to Mills in the Midwest and that's just one piece of the whole assembly. Thankfully your equipment is now off site and now the long range rebuilding can start
I need that spring you got there for a governor 2:23
You guys need to get rail dyes for those rollers to make your own rails.
Very cool, not to interfere into your vision. When having that spindle made for the drive side. integrate a modern shear bolt to save the spindle from over torque and grenading the expensive spindle. Rolling mills are extremely technical and require a ton of knowledge. So reaching out to retired people from this type of rolling would be extremely helpful. Also, reaching out to retired mechanics who have worked on these specific mills will come in handy as well. I love this type of stuff as I've worked in a rolling mill for 33 years. Good luck.....
Looking forward to seeing new videos of your steel mill
Very interesting!
Looks good. Much more managable size, than the othe one with the monster 2cyl. steam engine!
Thank you for saving this old iron.Reach out to titans of cnc and ask if they have someone in there program willing to work with you. They have one of the most diverse machine shops online and a huge base of people. Stay safe
That's great !! happy to see that this early industrial machinery is being saved
you are a visionary with purpose. Keep up the great work.
"Never throw nothin' out!"
You are doing a very. very, good thing here.
Thank you!
Oooh, more equipment for preservation.
Awesome news Rick. Glad you were able to save these pieces.
Fantastic update…….thank you for all the preservation that you do 👍
You are a madman! The world needs more like you, with the vision and energy for preserving equipment and technology that needs to be saved for future generations to marvel over. I've got no reason to come back to the Youngstown area after 40 years, except to visit the J&L Narrow Gauge, and probably the Canfield Fair.
Wow! Keeps growing... good job folks.
I hope you guys realize you have to live forever. There is too much to do, so you won't have time to grow old and die.
Immortality is the only way to go.
That is my goal as well.
Definitely plan to drive over there and check out the work you're doing.
I can't wait to see her run!
You are going to need a proper boiler, even a package one, to operate that engine, particularly if it is going to power a rolling mill. One or two small steam loco boilers will not be enough steam to power that engine. That engine needs, no demands, quantity besides pressure.
Thank you for sharing.👍
Your energy and ambition is limitless! Now, no more talking. Let's hear that bigass rattle gun run! ✌️
Perhaps a deal could be made with a railroad museum to turn the coupling. They tend to have large lathes to turn wheels. Strausberg in Pennsylvania comes to mind,
Building an addition to the building, I'm ready to help with that.
You should set up these rolls for forming rail for the railway.
As you described installing the rolls I was wondering if the track at the museum was formed by such mills? You guys are saving steel heritage history bit by bit and it very satisfying to watch the progress.
Most steel products came from rolling mills. These mills are perhaps one of the most important pieces of machinery out there that hardly anyone knows about. We are going to change that, if even in a small way. Nobody else in this country focuses on preservation of rolling mills. I am fortunate to be working on a giant 48" universal plate mill and now a 14" bar mill at the same time.
I remember back in the 1990's when I first got internet service coming across the Tod Engine/ Jeanette Blast furnace site. I was thinking this internet thing is pretty cool
One truly does buy a rolling mill
A small factory turntable is a Interesting and historically accurate solution to maneuvering in tight factory sights
Amazing save!
It would be cool if you could reroll rail to a smaller section.
I will fly over to the States to have a look when this engine can run under steam!
Amazingly ambitious. I hope you don't to wait too long to raise the necessary funds.
How about setting the rollers up tomoroduce rails
How about new rails?
Have yall thought of trying to save more stuff to where you could make a small replica mill?
be cool to make rail ,or small rail shape that can be cut to a length and stamped with your logo for a memento you could sell to visitors
Kinda thinking of doing something like that.
I watch another channel 'Chris Maj', he's always turning and machining steel mill parts: blocks, couplers, spindles, takeup reels, etc...
Not his business (he's just an employee) but he _may_ have a good idea where to get these things done. 💡😉
What about making rail track with those machines?
and the name of your new steel mill will be???
Unofficially its the Tod McDonald Rolling Mill!
I'm a blank page to all of this stuff. I super enjoy all that is related to trains but I fail to see how these rolling Mills relate to Locomotives or railcars? Are you planning to build another Locomotive using fresh steel plate? Kindy reply to my question as I really don't know what purpose (other than historical references) these mills serve? Thanks!
Well originally the museum wasn't completely rail focused. When they aquired the 58 and finally restored their focus shifted to the rail equipment. Their main focus is to preserve all the equipment possible from the steel manufacturing industry as a whole! Not just the trains even though me and you find that the most interesting.
@@hamiltonsullivan6563 phokus?
Man you just don't hold still, do ya', Rick? LOL
4:04 or you can make a ship now
Stupid newbie question but this must be a cold rolling mill if you’re planning to use it in the future? Sorry for the dumb query..
How about rolling some 8lb or 20lb rail? ;)
8lb or 10lb rail would be doable. The 8lb rail is 1 9/16 high by 1 9/16 base while the 10lb rail is 1 3/4 high by 1 3/4 base. I have the rest of the dimensions for the head and web.
Heys whats going to happen to mcdonald stell s2 777? You made a vid on that old girl a few years back. Thats actually how I found out about you guus!
@@hamiltonsullivan6563 it still belongs to the mill property and is for sale. We did not have the resources to move it off site and instead refocused on the rolling mill that is much rarer.
@@YoungstownSteelHeritage fair enough! Maby a future project one day
Bro.. JUST MAKE RAILS with it.
Might be a bit difficult with the equipment we have. But could be possible to make the smaller sizes. Who knows. We will get it installed and then figure it out from there.
You're never going to use this old junk
Stop with the negative waves. Go away if you are not going to help.
Ah, I see you are new to this channel. Welcome aboard! Others said the same thing when we got the 58. Heck, putting this rolling mill together is going to be far simpler than that restoration was!
i notice this dude keeps costs a secret. hhmmmmm....
" If you have to ask, you can't afford it " seems to apply. Or he got it for such a steal that management doesn't want it be known to someone else who wanted to buy it for more, but wouldn't keep it local.
Every bit of 10 million $.
These videos are about sharing the interesting work that we do and the machinery in our care. Funding is a necessary evil and probably not that interesting so I don't talk about it. I put everything I have into this and find ways to keep things moving forward. We keep costs as low as possible (one of the reasons we have solar, to eliminate an electric bill) and try to do as much in house as possible.
@@gravelydon7072 Its a question of priorities. Does my personal wants and needs get met or do I put money toward the project? The latter usually wins.
I misunderstood what you are doing. You are setting this up for historical purposes, not to sell bar stock to customers. I worked in hot and cold rolling mills my whole life, 43 years. Good luck!
You sure do not lack ambition!