How The Sandhawk Changed Borderlands 2 - "Borderlands Retrospective" (Part 8)

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  • @SkungIThrasher
    @SkungIThrasher ปีที่แล้ว +114

    You said 2022 instead of 2012 and I thought I wasn't as old as I actually am

    • @ItzTermx
      @ItzTermx  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Lack of sleep caught up to me there 😂
      I tried to fix that by putting the date on screen haha.

    • @FusionShadow54
      @FusionShadow54 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You're not old, you are however, an elite gamer

    • @albino5995
      @albino5995 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I was like…..wait what year are we now!? 🤣🤣

    • @florida_pilotxd7611
      @florida_pilotxd7611 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same You may do research

  • @ericormathias
    @ericormathias ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I was so pissed when the level 80 cap happened just after I farmed perfect parts in all elements for my Maya build. One of the saddest moments in my life

    • @Jaaaeden
      @Jaaaeden ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you had them at op8 before the update they still would’ve been level 80

    • @jaydenallen7742
      @jaydenallen7742 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Jaaaeden but lv80 isn't op10 so it might as well be trash

    • @jaydenallen7742
      @jaydenallen7742 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never had a perfect parts one but I always managed to get shock though

    • @Perry....
      @Perry.... ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@jaydenallen7742speak for your fucking self OP10 is dog shit, a lot of people play at OP0 after they butchered the balancing.

    • @xavis_dad
      @xavis_dad ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More gameplay quit crying

  • @spimbles
    @spimbles ปีที่แล้ว +12

    this is so fuckin sweet dude this game means SO much to me after playing it for 11 years straight and getting to deep dive into the nostalgic early days where the game was still actively dropping DLC and the community was booming is just such a nice feeling. there were weapons in vanilla like the Harold and Norfleet that blew 99.9% of guns out of the water and were very obviously top dog, and then the Sand Hawk and Pimpernel both came out in the same DLC and made characters like Maya and Zero WAY more than viable in their endgame builds, as well as being staple guns on almost any build of any character at any level. suddenly, the Harold became everyones estranged ex for a few months while everyone was having fun shredding through everything in the game with just a Sand Hawk and a Bee shield and nothing else. very very few weapons in this franchise are THAT good, and it was so so awesome experiencing these things as they came out. i absolutely adore the history this game has

    • @ItzTermx
      @ItzTermx  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Happy you enjoy the series, I love you back and reliving my childhood.

  • @maxsemenov7342
    @maxsemenov7342 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Ironically he said "before the pitchforks come out" and completely forgot about the pitchfork sniper which nobody is using and is literally a sandhawk in sniper rifle form.

    • @ItzTermx
      @ItzTermx  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok, I had this is my notes. Simply put, the pitchfork is very similar but the damage is just not there.

    • @Halimat2.0
      @Halimat2.0 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@ItzTermx the pitchfork does decent damage, mainly on bosses but due to the small ammo pool it suffers quite a bit also it has less projectiles which makes it do less damage with a beeshield by a significant amount

    • @xavis_dad
      @xavis_dad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Halimat2.0 the difference between listed and unlisted projectiles in the Bee's damage formula.

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Halimat2.0So what youre saying is that it's a Gaige item lmao

    • @Halimat2.0
      @Halimat2.0 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheReZisTLust fixed shot patterns help gaige but i would not recommend using a pitchfork as primary weapon on gaige you rather should use a jacobs shotguns like the Twister or a Quad as for sniping use the Hot Mama

  • @Lagaffinity
    @Lagaffinity 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As someone who's played borderlands casual I love learning why my friends want me to get these weapons despite no context

  • @TrialBySquire
    @TrialBySquire ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine a BL4 where New Game+ can have things like "loot pool filters". An allegiance run could only drop gear from the chosen manufacturers and, importantly, mobs can also be restricted to those allegiances (or maybe a different one from the player).
    Imagine being able to reset individual dlcs instead of a whole playthrough, or reset an area without save quitting.
    Imagine a game built to be replayed dozens of times having dialogue skips, cutscenes skips, limited reliance on NPC following. Imagine smart objectives that can compensate for deviated paths and strategies.
    Can you imagine it? Well, keep dreaming.

  • @GreenDinoRanger
    @GreenDinoRanger 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Sandhawk in BL3 actually got me my foothold on Mayhem 10 while i was farming the Cartel event to get some of the better weapons like the OPQ (which funny enough is the best weapon to farm Katagawa Jr with. Literally kills him in a second).

  • @MightyElf_
    @MightyElf_ ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Is it just me or would a bl2 remake in the bl3 style be awesome

    • @facehugger8995
      @facehugger8995 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bl3 style what do you mean? like not having to finish the campaign 3 times haha

  • @LordBathtub
    @LordBathtub ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this series 👌

  • @ttr_coco
    @ttr_coco ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Legendary cat com gave +100% SMG damage at MINIMUM, that's all 8 Sandhawk projectiles doing double damage without Bee boost. Combine that with the Cat com's boosting Maya's SMG skills and you have a simply unbeatable combo, like how the Pimpernel is unquestionably the best gun on Zer0, the Sandhawk just synergised with Maya perfectly. That's why basically all Sirens in BL2 online use it. And also OP10 made made every character but Salvador much more limited in ideal gear and builds, so even more Maya players default to beehawk + cat com

    • @Perry....
      @Perry.... ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you have to beehawk while mobbing you're dog shit

    • @my9thaccount140
      @my9thaccount140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome to why I never touched OP levels on principle. They’re just genuinely moronic and the only reason why you’d do it is for bragging rights. They do nothing for you.

  • @fades9105
    @fades9105 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You did the bee shield, however. I’d love to see a Sham shield, since it’s one of a loved shields due to the rare chance of a 94%.

  • @TJayMid
    @TJayMid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:34 me who can make literally anything in gibbed: i have 0 idea what you mean but i’m interested in dispersing more

  • @DarkKiller-0
    @DarkKiller-0 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Didn’t use the sand hawk as much on my gaige. Used the classic Fibber pistol with the Norfleet lol

  • @heroldjaras9909
    @heroldjaras9909 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sandhawk with the grognozzle, inventive idea using both weapons....

    • @SergeySedlovsky
      @SergeySedlovsky ปีที่แล้ว

      We need in BL4 a Dual Wielder that's not as broken as Sal, but just as fun

    • @heroldjaras9909
      @heroldjaras9909 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SergeySedlovsky iron bear was the dual wielder

  • @tylermills4818
    @tylermills4818 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll stand by the opinion that this gun is the reason gearbox had to be careful with unlisted projectiles for the rest of bl2

  • @tomikaze777
    @tomikaze777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I'm still playing BL2 right now as BL3 just doesn't do it for me. I'll be watching all the videos in this series.

    • @ItzTermx
      @ItzTermx  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome! I appreciate you

  • @LATAM_EQUINOX
    @LATAM_EQUINOX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually used it a lot with gaige, i had a discord looping build and blood soaked shields, paired with the bee i could keep it up all the time😅

  • @xArsVivendi
    @xArsVivendi ปีที่แล้ว

    Zer0 + Kunai + Bee Shield + Sand Hawk is the strongest combo you can't change my mind :D

  • @musicenthusiast2372
    @musicenthusiast2372 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah yes, I forgot maya is the best with the sandhawk. I love when she swaps after shooting the mag then gunzerks with the lady fist grog combo for 2400% crit and insta healing to drop most raidbosses instantly. I agree shes definitely the best with the sandhawk and we both are too stubborn to suggest otherwise.

  • @maddog5284
    @maddog5284 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bl3 sandhawk on mindsweaper moze is completely broken and with her ammo regen theres no problems using it.

  • @reklezzz9038
    @reklezzz9038 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ima Harold warrior myself but tha hawk shreds

  • @tropixi5336
    @tropixi5336 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the bee hawk was so strong before they nerfed the bee

  • @kvetoslavzeleny1764
    @kvetoslavzeleny1764 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am confused with the Torrent inclusion. BL2 had Emperor. If it was Torrent, well it wouldn't be that far from top tier Bee delivery. It's burst fire is So fast, that with enough fire rate the damage numbers count as single hit.
    Talking about the other BL2 smgs. The best ones can't compete. Plasma casters and Tattler. Could be close, but once we use Bee...once again, Sandhawk beats them.

    • @ItzTermx
      @ItzTermx  ปีที่แล้ว

      I was trying to compare the dahl SMGS best I could. I forgot the torrent is TPS emperor lmao

    • @kvetoslavzeleny1764
      @kvetoslavzeleny1764 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ItzTermx True that mentioning Emperor wouldn't change anything. But I still find it odd, that Smgs have only one king. In compare to other gun types there is allways few on the top.
      Best example, Pimpernel, Lyuda, Amigo Sincero. I could say all of those are OP. There isn't clear winner.

  • @luckschmuck5667
    @luckschmuck5667 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember there was a sniper almost no one could get because of its low percentage drop I think it was tiny Tina’s snipe which was a jakobs explosive sniper I would farm hours and never see this gun lol

  • @novaenforcer1563
    @novaenforcer1563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do the 94% sham next

  • @justinkonieczkowski293
    @justinkonieczkowski293 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cat class mod always boosted submachine gun damage

  • @captaincrunch1707
    @captaincrunch1707 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Think I’ve made peace with the SX 30fps but what an amazing game. While I adore Infinite’s campaign , Xbox needed an earthquake of a banger . BGS has delivered both great story and unique game design on a grand scale

  • @lucxxttv
    @lucxxttv ปีที่แล้ว +3

    00:50 is it just me or hmmmmmm

  • @Harry-lc1nz
    @Harry-lc1nz ปีที่แล้ว

    the sand hawk in bl3 actually isn’t a work drop it’s only drop source is katagawa on mayhem 6 or above or one of the trials i’m fairly sure

  • @windebiesteultima3317
    @windebiesteultima3317 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah, the best crutch of the franchise. Even though some people aren’t ready to admit it.

    • @happyturtlegamer1339
      @happyturtlegamer1339 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      biggest crutch is the harold

    • @spimbles
      @spimbles ปีที่แล้ว +2

      naw def the Harold lol you get it at level 7, its an easy ass farm, and it shreds enemies 15 levels above it. you gotta wait until level 15 bare minimum to get the Sand Hawk, but you also gotta go through like 2 and a half hours of missions to get to it, and you cant farm it without doing read only, which is incredibly tedious. the Harold is def the biggest and best crutch of the franchise

    • @Perry....
      @Perry.... ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No you're all wrong, it's by FAR the Grog. I've rarely seen someone play without the Grog at UVHM. It's a huge crutch healing weapon when a lot of times a smarter build will let you play without one

    • @Halimat2.0
      @Halimat2.0 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Perry.... the game is balanced that you use a grog for endgame content

    • @explodifier6021
      @explodifier6021 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Halimat2.0 when u dont understand what u are doing yes.

  • @oFiGuReZo
    @oFiGuReZo ปีที่แล้ว

    DUPH is king though 👑

  • @matthewmeachem2259
    @matthewmeachem2259 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imo the only borderlands SMG better than the Sand Hank was the Double Anarchy.

  • @YankMyChain-1
    @YankMyChain-1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haha i never got a sandhawk in bl2 because anything less then perfect was unacceptable to me and i didn't know how to get a good one until i had thrown mine away and never wanted to farm it

  • @DreyfusLagoon
    @DreyfusLagoon ปีที่แล้ว

    Voice in my head

  • @q6969
    @q6969 ปีที่แล้ว

    Misinformation in this video:
    Zer0 and Maya do still want Flying, as Vel0city and Accelerate gimp the effectiveness of split projectile weapons, namely the Pimpernel and Lyuda.
    Dahl weapons are extremely effective. They just also happen to be more reliant on having good parts on average, and their high precision makes them less forgiving.
    There is an analog for the BL3 Sandhawk in the game, the Pitchfork.
    Axton is the second best VH to use the Sandhawk on, as Zer0 uses other comparable weapons better.

  • @SheldonT.
    @SheldonT. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How come my Sandhawk does way less damage than this Sandhawk? Does it depend on what level you were when you got it during gameplay?

    • @ItzTermx
      @ItzTermx  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      everything was level 80 here, maybe my sandhawk was OP1 or OP2

    • @SheldonT.
      @SheldonT. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ItzTermx Right. Thanks.

    • @Perry....
      @Perry.... ปีที่แล้ว

      Flying sand hawk with matching parts is what you want, but it takes years to farm it unless you're cheating

    • @Halimat2.0
      @Halimat2.0 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Perry.... not years just insane dedication

  • @stockshowsuckers
    @stockshowsuckers ปีที่แล้ว

    Why on Maya?? Cat class mod

  • @happyturtlegamer1339
    @happyturtlegamer1339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    isnt the bl3 sandhawk that your praising basically just the bl2 pitchfork

    • @ItzTermx
      @ItzTermx  ปีที่แล้ว

      Kinda, pitchfork has some issues and damage is well.... Yeah

    • @maddog5284
      @maddog5284 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im Pretty sure the pitch for has less pellets and a lot less damage.

  • @SergeySedlovsky
    @SergeySedlovsky ปีที่แล้ว

    0:48 - October 2022

    • @ItzTermx
      @ItzTermx  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is gonna be a new meme 😂
      I was so tierd

  • @MegaEarAche
    @MegaEarAche ปีที่แล้ว

    Maya was practically made for the smg's. In my opinion since Maya was always my main. The Sandhawk is better than the Pimpernel. Just Saying.

    • @Halimat2.0
      @Halimat2.0 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pimpernel does do crazy damage especially on multiple targets if you build for it, you can even "b0re" Saturn with it as maya

  • @pa6495
    @pa6495 ปีที่แล้ว

    Torrent wasnt in vanilla bl2 I think you meant to talk about the emperor

    • @ItzTermx
      @ItzTermx  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was the torrent the pre sequel version on the emperor?

    • @pa6495
      @pa6495 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ItzTermx kind of, its a high fire rate Dahl smg but it was modded in bl2 and replaced the emperor as guns can't be added to the game (i think)

    • @Halimat2.0
      @Halimat2.0 ปีที่แล้ว

      we don't talk about the emporer

  • @ohnosono3127
    @ohnosono3127 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trew

  • @xavis_dad
    @xavis_dad ปีที่แล้ว

    How are you bringing up this weapon and none of the stuff from the Commander Lilith DLC? That sniper rifle alone is just tarded. It makes everything else obsolete by miles. Not to mention the Shocket Launcher (Tourgue shock AR) forgot its actually name that's what the community called it b4 Gaybox took down the Forums.

    • @Halimat2.0
      @Halimat2.0 ปีที่แล้ว

      its called peak opener and is a slightly modified kerblaster with higher firerate and more child grenades

    • @xavis_dad
      @xavis_dad ปีที่แล้ว

      @Halimat2.0 no it it more than that. It is by far and away the Best AR in the game hands down. Not only that, it's the best AR for any vault hunter that can is good with ARs because it does both of the kinds of none resisted damage, meaning all you have to do is slag the field and lay waste. It is the best AR with Gaige, Kreig, and Axton. The only thing that beats it on the other 3 VHs is a perfect parts Bekah with Crit builds and good luck getting that without mods. I've played for tens of thousands if hours and never even seen a 2nd generation Pearlescent. It has a huge magazine, way more damage, and way higher fire rate compared to the Kerblaster.
      Do you even play or are you trolling? I know what I'm talking about. The dude who made this video is dead wrong. The Commander Lilith DLC has all of the META gear. Amigo Sincero, Peak Opener, Unicornsplosion, Hector's Paradise and the Electric Chair made everything else obsolete. Like I said in my first comment, the Amigo Sincero alone makes it redundant to use any other sniper rifle, that thing slaps and actually makes an OP10 SN1P3R Z3R0 viable on the peak. The only exception being the Pimpernel. That being said I still find use for the Sandhawk and I am currently still dashboard farming my perfect set. I have the Shock, NonElemental, and Slag(useless), but still need the other 2. I agree it is a PITA to refarm the parts perfect quest items. And that goddamned Rustlers Twister.

    • @Halimat2.0
      @Halimat2.0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xavis_dad i actually did play quite alot that's why i know that its a modified kerblaster its one of the few guns in the commander lilith dlc that actually got some upgrade over the normal ones, and i doubt you played for 10k hours and never gotten a gen2 pearl cuz if you farm the legendary dlc classmods for all characters you get some gen 2 pearls, also the leadstorm can do more overall damage and the peak opener shreds through your ammo like crazy it also fires faster if you zoom

    • @Halimat2.0
      @Halimat2.0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xavis_dad i have a matching grip rustler's twister that i got legit lol also the unicornsplosion is the exact same as the swordsplosion the hot mama is a sniper for gaige and the amigo sincero is probably the no1 jacobs sniper as for the other guns from the dlc like Hektors paradise its just a worse hornet (locked to bladed if i ain't mistaken) the nirvana is a hellfire with rainbow skin the infection cleaner is a fire avenger pretty much the electric chair does have some upsides and is overall a better stormfront for single target damage the fastball is alot easier to hit + it comes in all the offensive elements and the worldburn is a nukem with less downsides oh right almost forgot the toothpick its a great Dahl weapon i suppose AR that feels like a dpuh kinda due to the double pitchfork effect
      edit i forgot the buffed Hammer Buster which is actually usable

    • @xavis_dad
      @xavis_dad ปีที่แล้ว

      @Halimat2.0 ah yes the Thumpson AR is also very nice. Also goes well with crit builds. The magazine and damage are incredible. As for the Hectors Paradise it is just a better version of the Thunderball Fist IMO. Maybe not in terms of stats for every charater/loadout/build but in that it can be obtained reliably at the level you need it at. This is important for ascension of OP levels.

  • @STALKER777LK
    @STALKER777LK ปีที่แล้ว

    It was too overtuned.

    • @beefjiggler5665
      @beefjiggler5665 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really. It was just the Bee shield that elevated it to extreme heights.
      Without the Bee, the sandhawk is good but not amazing.

    • @STALKER777LK
      @STALKER777LK ปีที่แล้ว

      @@beefjiggler5665 the sand hawk was overtuned in comparison to basically all other smgs too
      Bee shield just made things crazier

    • @beefjiggler5665
      @beefjiggler5665 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@STALKER777LK
      Maybe. I never found the sandhawk to be that much better than most other SMGs. But I haven’t played the game in a fair bit so I might just be misremembering.

    • @alyssarichardson2544
      @alyssarichardson2544 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@beefjiggler5665 It's more about the synergy with The Bee, without it on op10 when the Bee is down, Pyro Pete seems to regen health as fast as you can bring it down on Maya, to the point it feels like 10,000 SMG ammo wouldn't be enough unless you cheese him by weapon swapping to a Lady Fist / Grog Nozzle between bursts...