There's this redheaded girl I knew a while ago who thinks that her brothers are making weird inventions. I saw a few but I just chalked it up to the parents doing construction on their house. Weirdest part is how she thinks that their pet platypus (yes, they have a pet platypus, no I don't know why) is a secret agent. I don't know if she's crazy or on drugs or something, but their dad tells me that she probably got her paranoia from him. She's nice regardless.
What is scary is the whole start of the video where you only showed Norma's perspective, I believed her 100%. Its frightening how perspective and presentation can 100% grip you and demand your POV to see one angle
@@avebave6550 you are presented with a situation where you are misled by the information given and it is shifted around once you get to see both sides of the story. You are correct, your comment about perspective having the power to change feelings on the situation was valid. I also agree that they could have removed their disagreement with your comment and just said "yeah, it shows how easy it is to manipulate people by simply omitting certain information." and it would have been fine because you both are saying basically the same thing. I think it's just force of habit in youtube comments to be antagonistic, lol.
What’s even scarier is that y’all believe everything you see/hear on EVERY video, not just this one. This dumbfk on a mr ballen video refused to do any fact checking and argued with me saying “I’m going to believe Mr ballen over you!1!”
I've dealt with mentally ill neighbors myself. I lived next to a woman who was severely mentally ill and was not taking her meds. Of course the cops and state knew this but refuse to do anything stating she is not a danger to anyone. She would talk to people in the hallway though there was never anyone actually there. She would beat on the walls yelling at people to be quiet when no one was making noise. One day she randomly decided to attack my mom unprovoked and beat the hell out of her. I walked into the situation mid attack and had I not been there she probably would have killed my mom. The state only decided to put her into a facility after we threatened litigation. They don't care about you or your safety.
@Lobsterwithinternet >government >bottom line No I'm pretty sure the government is perfectly fine spending infinite amounts of taxpayer dollars, it's actually just a matter of over-bloated bureaucracy and incompetentcy.
@@RamAurelius And do you think it was always like this? Most of the spending was due to reganomics where the government spends itself out of an economic downturn. Go look it up.
I mean mentally ill people have rights and freedoms just like anyone else. Until the point where she actually attacked your mom, she wasn't doing anything wrong. Even if you thought it was annoying or disturbing, they are still human beings and being weird is not a crime nor a reason to keep someone in a hospital against their will. You have to realize that psych wards in the US are not nice places. They are essentially jail. They are essentially a punishment for having an illness. The nurses are overworked and understaffed, causing them to be rude, dismissive, and sometimes downright abusive toward patients.
@@RamAurelius Are you American? if so idk how you could type that out with a straight face when looking at how much infrastructure is crumbling and how schools and social programs are underfunded. Also, only when it comes to the military and corporate bailouts does the government acts like it has infinite money.
I don't feel like he was villainizing that woman at all. She's legitimately attempted to harm one of her family members & engaged in a long term delusional campaign of harassment so she's definitely a potential public hazard & needs to be given some help.
Other horror TH-camrs are like “isn’t this spooky uwu” but Scare Theater is like “this is a serious mental health crisis” and that’s why he’s still the GOAT
@@exotictoxics idk if he was serious, or if he was just exaggerating, but i don’t think anyone would use serious Material to be cute. (But then again this is the internet so it wouldn’t be too surprising 💀)
This is why it's so important that people understand how human trafficking actually works and why using child predation as entertainment is so harmful. It's so easy to whip up a mob over literally nothing because they watch too much law & order and want to be heroes.
You know what else is a huge problem? The fact that everyone knows the police are corrupt criminals and they even act suspicious in their interactions here. I also find it a problem that Scare Thearter rightly calls out that this woman needs help but suggests 0 accountability to harassing police. The reason people would believe her story is that we know for a fact there's plenty of police that would do shit like this and we know this from decades of police being caught selling drugs, them being used as assaulters against protesters in peaceful protests, killing innocent and mainly black people for no reason other they're black and not doing anything these cops ask. Everyone always want to downtalk people who would believe the police are up to something nefarious while completely ignoring the decades upon decades of proof that, as an institution and and as a system that they have been and still are a bunch of violent criminals.
Its not so much that they want to be heroes saving people, its that they want to be praised and respected, so they will make up any old garbage. It has a lot to do with their own mental health and feeling worthless.
But did they ever explain why they were loading people into the van in the middle of the night? Or why they were getting dropped off at that “church” at 3am?
@@fredexdelivers They didn't publicly, though if Law Enforcement suspected anything they could ask. In the real world people don't have an obligation to reveal and explain every single aspect of their private lives to you in order to 'disprove' whatever wild fantasy is being dreamed up about them.
People online could have made false calls to the police aka (Swatting) just to drum up more fear/videos from her. I think she was getting swatted by trolls online
Reminds me of what happened with Gail Chord Schuler. I'm sure she's relatively okay still, at least I hope so, but there might as well have been a whole theatre troupe dedicated to re-enforcing and enabling her delusions. They would email her, comment under her videos, or even call her on Skype pretending to be characters in her imaginary world (Terrence Jenkins, Brent Spiner, Hugh Jackman, Jesus Christ, etc). Some of them justified it by saying they were keeping an eye on her by getting close to her like that, but this woman literally went for a walk through a hurricane once because she believed her starship in orbit was beaming down an energy shield to protect her from bad weather. They also egged her on, mocked her, and pushed her to keep posting online for their entertainment at the same time they told her to take her medication. I really wish more people on the internet understood that the mentally ill are not their toys.
@@StargazerSkyscraper ...what the fuck? I've never heard about this. "I really wish more people on the internet understood that the mentally ill are not their toys. " Do you mean this is a common occurrence? Geez...
As someone who doesn't use tiktok and therefore hadn't heard of any of this until seeing this video, the way he made it seem like she was actually onto something in the beginning of the video and then pulled a plot twist where Mercedes was actually Norma and SHE was the one who was actually stalking THEM is really good editing and story telling
This reminds me of Fence Gate which happened a while back. Basically, neighbors accused an older woman of harassing them and knocking down their fence and got support online. Then the old woman responded revealing they were actually harassing her and the fence was on her property so she had the right to take it down. While it's not exactly the same as this, it does show how easy it is to make the other person look bad when there is only one side of the story.
I find this crazy because it was drilled into my head as a kid to not believe everything I read on the internet. I see weird blame-game posts all the time on the internet and it concerns me how many people will just take a strangers word as truth
Same group who believes the earth is flat, Julia Wendelt is Madeline McCann, reptilians, giants, mermaids and that nasa was originally created to explore the ocean, etc - these same people will boldly say out loud with confidence this bs is real and you're a bully for giving them real real sources that rebuke crazy claims
The most likely theory for the church thing I can think of is that a wake was taking place,in some places (especially parts of the southern u.s) families will sometimes spend the night in the church with the deceased before the funeral, the van could have been a clergy member picking up relatives as most churches offer free transport to the church that way.
Thank you. That’s the part where I’m confused about. Since that footage was kind of glossed and not mentioned in the later half of the video. Thats the part where I had many questions
It's basically a gathering held for family and friends of the deceased individual, and it takes place before the funeral. Sometimes the casket is open, and the people pay their respects.
It’s crazy how I’ve been watching this channel since I was a young high schooler. I’m 23 now and about to start going back to college, here’s to hoping this content continues
you just made me feel so so much better about my situation. I'm also 23 and gave been thinking about going back to school but was embarrassed about my age. thank you for posting this and I hope you have a blessed be week
@@beecycle666I’m 27 and haven’t graduated my 4 year program that I started around 20, if that helps you feel any better. Life is hard. Not everyone can go to school and get finished during the “average” amount of time (especially if you work full time). Try not to feel too bad about it. 🖤
Delusions are genuinely so scary to deal with, I've had problems with magical thinking before and it's so easy to just... Slip and lose grip on reality, start believing my thoughts are more powerful than they actually are. I have to keep myself in check even if I really want to believe something, I know it's not true and have to remind myself from time to time whenever something starts feeling really tempting again I was in a weird discord cult in late 2020 to early 2021 and they really tried to exploit that, I didn't even know I had that issue then so the whole few months were A Lot. So essentially delusions are terrifying especially if you don't know you're dealing with those. I really hope she can get the help she needs, I have some sympathy for her even if she's clearly in the wrong
@@institutespencer wasn't big, just a few people but apparently it was a "branch" so there might be more (or they made it up to sound more real). You know youtube subliminals? It was based around those. Straight up told us we'd get superpowers and the government would try to get us. I was the oldest recruit there, it attracted mostly young teens and the leader was asking for their personal info sometimes and in general was pretty weird. When I left they kinda turned on me for reasons so idk if it's still a thing but it could be. I'm using the word cult for it because it definitely had cult characteristics (and let's be real discord is the perfect place to start something like that)
Same with paranoia. Mine is only interpersonal, but it can look like suddenly thinking a friend or partner is out to get me and secretly hates me at the drop of a dime. Course I did therapy and I know a lot of the time the thoughts are just misattributed feelings and I just need to communicate, but before when it was untreated it was terrifying because you do genuinely believe people are trying to hurt you.
Reminds me of my downstairs neighbor at my last apartment. I don't know if it was just loneliness with too much time on her hands or she was off whatever meds she might've been on, but from the first day we moved in it was a constant drama of her accusing us of all sorts of crazy stuff like we were running industrial machines in our tiny apartment, we were running a drug manufacturing business, we had six huskies, and we had a bobcat in our apartment which was actually my Maine Coon mix cat. This went on for years with her only quieting down for a bit when the landlord would tell her to go call the police if she thought we were doing anything illegal. I don't know who might've moved in after we left, but I hope they have a better time than we did with the downstairs neighbor.
@@MSinistrari Neighbors can either be wonderful, non-existent, or a royal pain in the ass. It takes strong will & character to deal with what you did and remain there for years. The lady that lived across the hall from me was loony & my neighbor to the left was a heroine addict. Two years later & both new neighbors I don’t even know their names. We all just mind our business.
Did you have six huskies? Cause I’d say all that too if you were my upstairs neighbor. That should be illegal in apartments. Why would you torture animals like that? Even one husky in an apartment is terrible. Those animals need lots of land to exercise and be free. 6 dogs plus a cat is mental. Even two dogs in a cat in apartment is mental.
I guess I should be grateful that while I'm lonely and have too much time, I spend it thinking about how to tell obviously fake fictional stories in an enjoyable way. I hope that hobby continues to stick.
This is why critical thinking is so important. Question what you see. Accept nothing at face value. Always look for more than one source before jumping to conclusions. The fact people harassed the actual victims, going so far as to damage their property, speaks volumes for how easily people can be fooled and manipulated. It is truly scary how people will be manipulated in the age of AI. That aside as someone with Bipolar disorder 1 myself I feel it is a little oversimplified to automatically conclude Norma is herself a victim. One can absolutely contribute to the likelihood of having a mental health episode through their own life choices, something that took a few stays in a mental health clinic for me to finally learn. As a favourite podcaster of mine who also has bipolar says “Mental illness isn’t your fault, but it is your responsibility” To me giving someone a free pass just because they have a mental illness does more harm than good.
The problem is how are they going to prosecute this as a law as this would mean they'd be arresting people who just look like they are following or harassing people. It's pretty much unenforceable.
@@LobsterwithinternetI sort of disagree. A lot of times there will be a history of the victim telling this person to leave them alone, not come to their home, workplace, or school, and that not being respected. I feel like there has gotta be some way we can increase protection for the victims.
They genuinely do. Stalkers of all ages too. I still don’t know how my ex got my school email or how long he was stalking me in the hall at school but months later he threatened to sh**t a school up and got suspended so. Yikes..
@@lunawolfheart336 And what constitutes that standard? And what stops its rampant abuse by either authorities or the ones reporting it? That's the thing about a law, especially about something as subjective as harassment.
She went from accusing her neighbor of harming children to threatening to harm children herself. Its almost always projection with these people, isn't it?
the whole "big ol arms" and "looks like a man, straight like a man" reminds me of transvestigation conspiracy, which is one of the wildest conspiracies you can get into lol
Yeah, the sudden racism and transphobia was wild. Conspiracy theories often blend together when you get really into them, I wouldn't be surprised if she "researched" conspiracies online and came across transvestigation.
It's oddly absurd how much this happens to black women and other women of colour (who are more than often actually cisgender). Idk about you but i think its kind of racist and misogynistic to assume a woman is manly because of ethnic features
I knew something was up the moment you see her security feed... showing her neighbor's yard. Why would anyone have a security camera pointed at someone else's property? You can kinda see her pull into her driveway but like 70% of the camera FOV is not Munoz's business, so why would she be recording it in the first place?
@@DonutsForever24 That's a very delusional sounding rationalization of violating another person's privacy. First, the word important wasn't used. The OP said they knew something was up, because of her suspicious use of cameras to spy on her neighbors. Second, using the Chris Watts case is apples to oranges. Chris Watts said he'd been having items stolen from his property which would be why the neighbor was recording footage aimed at his property and regardless of that footage that case was going to be solved. It wasn't just a wild whodunnit. Again, like the OP said it's not her business so why is she recording it? Privacy laws only allow for recording of PUBLIC places and of places easily seen and within line of sight to a public space. Putting a camera on a pole in order to circumvent privacy curtains that the neighbors shouldn't have had to put up in the first place, is a clear violation of a persons 4th amendment right to privacy.
@UCYjeJIqRZs-h0BahZOQxjcA his neighbor's camera wasn't pointed directly at his house. the camera was supposed to keep an eye on the neighbor's car and garage in case someone broke into it. it just so happened that chris's garage was right next to his.
@@DonutsForever24 no it's not, and these people already explained it to you. you're just coming up with excuses to justify why you're spying on your neighbours.
Thank you! In a lot of my other videos where I am highly skeptical of conspiracy theories, I get a lot of criticism for being stubborn, stupid, or closed-minded. I figured making this video in this way perfectly demonstrated why it is extremely important to be skeptical of conspiracy theories until you have strong evidence that supports them. It genuinely concerns me how few people are able to think critically about stuff like this.
A friend of mine has been stalked/harassed for the last couple of years. Several threatening emails/texts per day, everyday. Whenever she blocks the number, they get a new one. Whenever she gets a new phone number or email address, it only takes a few days for the stalker to find it. They've called into her work and told her bosses all kinds of disgusting lies about her. She knows who it is (the ex girlfriend of one of her ex boyfriends), but the police can't/won't do anything. I feel so bad for the Garcia's. It's only further proof how screwed up our justice system is that someone can so blatantly do this to people and not go to jail/a hospital.
I truly hope that Norma gets help for her mental health issues before she does anything drastic. It's sad how often individuals who are struggling get ignored.
It’s by design. It was the result of the controversy over abuse in asylums and the popularity of neoliberal economics that saw the downsizing and privatization of everything.
while I appreciate how tactfully you handled this issue, as a mentally ill person that grew up surrounded by other mentally ill people: some people do not want help. some people get offered help every step of the way, multiple times, and they turn it down. and illness or not, she is dangerous and a stalker and needs to face consequences.
I mean someone who's delusional isn't going to accept help bc help to them is reinterpreted as harm. They think their delusions are real and right, and those telling them otherwise are trying to hurt them. Like imagine right now how you would respond to someone telling you yours sick and need help. You'd argue that you're not. If someone tried to force you, you'd get angry.
@@thisisanaccountalright im referring to people that get people, enough to realise their delusion and decide with a clear mind to not take meds and seek treatment.
I remember having a creative writing idea I never followed through with along the lines of this story. Back when the internet collectively learned the term “human trafficking” there was a flood of stories about creepy people in Walmart trying to kidnap children only for op to scare them off in time. Basically I wanted to make two Reddit posts, with one talking about a man who was following at a little girl around the toy aisle, but when op went to confront the man he grabbed the girl and ran. And the other about a dad watching his daughter while she looked at toys who noticed a crazed woman staring at them, and when she started to approach he grabbed his daughter and ran our
i seem to remember seeing something on the news (about maybe 5-10 years ago) about something very similar to this actually happening. i think it was actually at a Walmart, too. i can't remember if the person went up to the kid and started accusing them of being trafficked and caused a big scene, or if the person actually tried to take the kid.
That actually happened in my town; a caucasian man was carrying around his ill and cranky daughter who was mixed white/black at the Walgreen's Pharmacy, he called the police because he said a black lady was following him and his child and had actually tried to kidnap his daughter, meanwhile, the black lady had called 911 because she saw a white guy snatch up a little black girl coming out of the restroom and the girl was crying and trying to fight him.
Its so refreshing to hear a voice of compassion. Sometimes we lose sight of our humanity, when we jump to conclusions and choose a 'side'. Reality is rarely straightforward, there is always a big picture. In cases like these, when there are severe mental health issues at play, its important to remember the 'perpetrator' is unwell. It doesn't mean ignoring reality or consequences, but it's better to withhold judgement when we don't know enough to be in that position. I'm reminded of the same theme with the whole 'baby reindeer' saga, and the 'stalker' who is being demonized for the purposes of 'entertainment'. Thank you for being a voice of reason, and having the integrity to take responsibility for how this comes across to your viewers.
The sad truth is that accusatory behavior gives people power, and for those with not much to do and/or mental issues it is impossible for them to change given that they have probably been like that for many years. This type of stuff is hell to watch, I don't miss the times where my life was disrupted by the poor actions of others.
These cases either make a specific kind of people go full-blown eugenics against ill people or help raise awareness of how serious mental health is and what happens when it goes untreated. Extremely double-edged sword.
The vast majority of mentally ill people aren't dangerous to others (in fact it's much more likely for others to hurt _them_) but some people love to latch on to the "scary crazy person" narrative. I wish the mental healthcare system was better and easier to get into, a lot of people need it :(
Raising awareness about the serious implications of "mental health", its effect on the self/community, and WHY these people are untreated in the first place is eugenic.
@@ramboti6402 most domestic animals are invasive and in many cases not made for life outdoors. Cats are also big bird killers, having a negative impact on local ecosystems.
This is very similar to Buddy Webb, That Chapter made a video about him several years ago. He believes there is a vast conspiracy of people living in underground tunnels and people living in his attic stealing resources.
been watching u since 2015 scare theater, you have gotten me through so many car rides and used to scare me so bad with the old intro u had, thank u for always uploading man
I hope Norma gets the help she needs, it's scary how there's a lot of people who can be a danger to themselves and others but just bc they have not caused a tragedy yet they tend to be ignored, it seems that Norma's family and even the police are very aware of the situation but there's nothing being done bc she hasn't acted yet (besides what she did to her sister), which is terrifying
I think the way you presented this was brilliant. The fact you showed Normas perspective first, it looks totally believable. Now imagine actually *being* Norma. In her mind, this is all totally real. We are lucky enough to see the outside perspective and the wherewithal to interpret the facts, whereas she is unable to convince herself otherwise. I feel awful for the Garcias and for the sister. For their sake, just as much as Norma’s, I really hope she gets the help she needs before anything worse happens. Also that poor cat 😢
Thank you for speaking at the end of the video about mental health, I myself have lived with mental health disorder all my life and the need to get the message out to the community that these people need help and not punishment is so important , even if that means it's against the wants of that person to seek this help it's to important to ignore!
The switch up from showing her perspective first and then going into the Luis’s perspective made this video so much better. I was on her side until I saw that pic of her sitting on the roof next to that security camera😂
6:22 Foreshadowing is a narrative device in which suggestions, or warnings about events to come are dropped or planted. Sometimes foreshadowing is relatively obvious, other times it can be more obscure or isosteric.
Mental Illness is a serious problem that always goes ignored in America,There’s mentally ill people living on the streets and With families who are unable to have access to help,So many incidents I hear involving the mentally Ill is always saddening knowing it could’ve been avoided if they’ve received help just a bit sooner
It's the same in the UK 😢 they only get the attention they need when they end up in the criminal justice system. If they are unfortunate to commit the more heinous crimes, their lives end up ruined from trial by media, getting labeled as monsters, and thrown in prison with a mark on their head.
Bro when the cops were around and kids were being taken to a church at 3am, as soon as you said a church I thought this was way out of her hands. I cant believe theyre just scaring each other 💀
@@LobsterwithinternetIf someone is mentally ill, no, they absolutely do not have a choice. That is their reality and they absolutely 100% believe that those things are happening. The definition of a delusion is a fixed, false belief. Fixed as in you can't just show someone proof or talk them out of it and they won't believe it anymore. It's there, whether it makes sense or not.
After seeing the other perspective, I'm 100% sure she called the police on herself in order to make that tiktok video. Crazy cause I really believed the police were being shady at that point
Man it’s scary how crazy people like Norma can fool the public into thinking something it’s true and the public has no reason not to believe it. Hope The Garcia family is doing well and gets away from this crazy woman.
2:25 Who else was anticipating the ad promotion right here? That build up, followed by a sudden pause and black screen....That's a classic technique for introducing the sponsor 😂
3:30 living in a country with a lot of religious people I'm just kinda used to them periodically having their weirdo holidays that some people apparently actually care about. Like, it'll be a random Sunday and suddenly all the shops are closed bc it's the moving holiday of Our Lady Most Blessed Virgin Thrice Admirable. They already have morning mass and midnight mass, what I'm getting at is, I personally wouldn't jump to "must be human trafficking"
We were surfing the petit tube one night on a live stream, and I saw a similar woman like this. She was living in a trailer park, harassing all her neighbors with her camera, every video has 7-8 views. Even harassing the police which comes to her house. It was extreme cringe to watch.
Just goes to show that there really are two sides to every story and no matter how compelling a string of videos might seem it's important to remain skeptical, you cannot take it at face value.
I honestly don't know, but it could have been anything. For all we know, that footage wasn't actually even taken at 3 am. It's difficult to trust anything Norma puts out
I’ve been following this whole situation since Norma’s video popped up on my feed and at first I was lowkey believing her at first until Luis and his wife’s video proving all her points wrong and then Norma went on a craze and that fully confirmed their story.
To explain the 3am church thing, maybe they were having a 'lock in'. Its like A big slumber party where a church group (usually the teenage class) goes to church for a slumber party with pizza and snacks and play games and dance and just have fun with their friends in their youth group. Usually as teens do they try to pull an allnighter. I went to plenty of em as a kid
I think this is definitely a situation where the internet has made things much worse. You've got Munoz's fans encouraging her and I wouldn't be surprised if trolls were behind some of the calls that brought the police to her place (therefore also encouraging her). Plus, there's this entire conspiracy shibboleth that provides a ready-made explanation for every stray worry ("Neighbor acting weird? Well, clearly they're human traffickers / gangstalkers / Satanists / lizard people") that's become even more accessible with the internet. I don't think the internet made Munoz do this. But the internet certainly made her entire situation worse.
So many people on tiktok take things at face value and Norma just takes advantage of that. Hope this video spreads like crazy on tiktok cause while she is mentally ill, it doesn't excuse her actions or pardon her from punishment.
BRO I JUST REALIZED YOU REACHED ONE MIL!!!!!! IM SO HAPPY FOR YOU CONGRATULATIONS BRO!!!!! thank you for being one of my favorite horror creators you are an insperation
The cops knocking on her door sounded SO fake. “… a 911 call in this area.” I’m guessing she either got 2 guys to do it, it was some guys from her channel, or even the neighbors.
Wouldn't doubt it. Both motel 6s here in billings have had many managers coming and going. These last 2 were doing some very sketchy stuff before they got fired/investigated
Maybe because I've grown to keep an open mind, But I started having doubts about Norma's "conspiracy" when things supposedly got worse after some of her posts. If all of those things were true, Why would police bother intimidating her on camera, knowing that she'd post it and it would lead to more attention towards her and her findings?
I really appreciate that you shed an emphasis on mental illness. It's an epidemic in the United States, not only due to existential conflicts, but due to external conflicts as well. Our economy, the lack or having a good job or good income, unresolved trauma from youth, there's a lot more than someone just being "crazy." There's almost always a cause and effect. There's some instances where people do things just because, but it's normally always because there's been something bothering them for a long time, but they've never gotten help or addressed the problems. It's really sad, and the way you made this video was honestly heartwarming in a way. The woman CLEARLY needs some mental help, and hopefully she can get it in the healthiest way possible. Keep up the great work, ScareTheater!
Your videos are all so great! Love the mindset you have too! I hope she does get the help she deserves. “No one chooses to be mentally ill”, well said! I’d like to add that I love how you did that spin, showing the reality of both sides! Basically coming down to, it’s all in how you tell a story
If possible would you consider making a video about "Saki Sanobashi." (Also known as "Go For A Punch"). The investigation has seemingly come to a standstill and I would love to hear your thoughts on the subject.
@@zixea3318 You are probably correct. I still want to hear this thoughts on it though. He has debunked many things in the past. I just wanna hear his thoughts on it and see if he can dig up anything no one else was able to.
This is an important aspect of when people give 'evidence' on the internet while trying to gather people to their side. While videos, photos, texts, and so on might be genuine, they're only showing part of the picture, with a narrative constructed either from what the person who took the evidence BELIEVES is happening, or intentionally falsified to paint themselves in a better light. So often it can still be a game of he-said/she-said if a certain bar isn't met, because the evidence can be spun multiple ways.
That bit at the end about both of them being the victim is really important, it's easy to get emotional when you hear about dead pets and chronic harassments so it's nice to give a reminder that the solution to this isn't more harassment but treatment for her disease,it's very empathic of you
this is a very responsible youtuber, thank you for giving the clarification about mental health. People want the more salacious conspiracy stories rather than the sad truth, kudos for a great video.
Man its crazy how far people take disliking ppl. Especially one you live next to. Icant wait to move further into the country. Im from cape cod, lives in Boston and Lynn for the past 3 years and in February i moved to the Berkshire Mounains. Muchbetter for mysoul. Im recovering from fentanyl and crack. Im cultivating myself ro be succesful. Im very thankful for all i have today and i love all you guys here. Stay safe and be friends with your neighbors.
There's this redheaded girl I knew a while ago who thinks that her brothers are making weird inventions. I saw a few but I just chalked it up to the parents doing construction on their house.
Weirdest part is how she thinks that their pet platypus (yes, they have a pet platypus, no I don't know why) is a secret agent.
I don't know if she's crazy or on drugs or something, but their dad tells me that she probably got her paranoia from him. She's nice regardless.
“I’ll get you Perry the Platypus!”
Is her name Candace by any chance? I might know her as well. Even if shes a bit a of loon ngl, I hope the poor girl is doing okay
Damn bro you had me in the first half.
I don't know why, but I thought you were referencing Johnny Test up until you mentioned the platypus before I realized it was Phineas and Ferb.
@@ScareTheater Was it the redheaded part? That part I understand why you thought that. But thank you for playing along! :)
What is scary is the whole start of the video where you only showed Norma's perspective, I believed her 100%. Its frightening how perspective and presentation can 100% grip you and demand your POV to see one angle
Not really.
It simply shows how easy it is to manipulate people by just omitting certain information.
@@Lobsterwithinternet now I'm confused here because you essentially repeated what I said, but disagreed before you did?
@@avebave6550 you are presented with a situation where you are misled by the information given and it is shifted around once you get to see both sides of the story. You are correct, your comment about perspective having the power to change feelings on the situation was valid. I also agree that they could have removed their disagreement with your comment and just said "yeah, it shows how easy it is to manipulate people by simply omitting certain information." and it would have been fine because you both are saying basically the same thing. I think it's just force of habit in youtube comments to be antagonistic, lol.
It really shows how there's always another side to the story. This reminds me of the fence lady
What’s even scarier is that y’all believe everything you see/hear on EVERY video, not just this one.
This dumbfk on a mr ballen video refused to do any fact checking and argued with me saying “I’m going to believe Mr ballen over you!1!”
I've dealt with mentally ill neighbors myself. I lived next to a woman who was severely mentally ill and was not taking her meds. Of course the cops and state knew this but refuse to do anything stating she is not a danger to anyone. She would talk to people in the hallway though there was never anyone actually there. She would beat on the walls yelling at people to be quiet when no one was making noise. One day she randomly decided to attack my mom unprovoked and beat the hell out of her. I walked into the situation mid attack and had I not been there she probably would have killed my mom. The state only decided to put her into a facility after we threatened litigation. They don't care about you or your safety.
No, they care about how having her in their care is going to affect their bottom line.
You can thank Financialization for that.
@Lobsterwithinternet
>government
>bottom line
No I'm pretty sure the government is perfectly fine spending infinite amounts of taxpayer dollars, it's actually just a matter of over-bloated bureaucracy and incompetentcy.
@@RamAurelius And do you think it was always like this? Most of the spending was due to reganomics where the government spends itself out of an economic downturn.
Go look it up.
I mean mentally ill people have rights and freedoms just like anyone else. Until the point where she actually attacked your mom, she wasn't doing anything wrong. Even if you thought it was annoying or disturbing, they are still human beings and being weird is not a crime nor a reason to keep someone in a hospital against their will. You have to realize that psych wards in the US are not nice places. They are essentially jail. They are essentially a punishment for having an illness. The nurses are overworked and understaffed, causing them to be rude, dismissive, and sometimes downright abusive toward patients.
@@RamAurelius Are you American? if so idk how you could type that out with a straight face when looking at how much infrastructure is crumbling and how schools and social programs are underfunded. Also, only when it comes to the military and corporate bailouts does the government acts like it has infinite money.
I don't feel like he was villainizing that woman at all. She's legitimately attempted to harm one of her family members & engaged in a long term delusional campaign of harassment so she's definitely a potential public hazard & needs to be given some help.
Honestly she should be in jail tbh
@@TeamNova80 Or in a facility that can help her but she definitely needs someone keeping an eye on her before she hurts herself or someone else again.
Bro Mexicans telling Mexicans to go back to Mexico is crazy. WTF 😂
ong like bro stop the friendly fire
"Friendly fire is not allowed!"
Happens so often it’s crazy.
munoz doesn’t mean mexican
a mexican calling another mexican an anti-mexican slur is even wilder
Other horror TH-camrs are like “isn’t this spooky uwu” but Scare Theater is like “this is a serious mental health crisis” and that’s why he’s still the GOAT
Please show me other accounts who uses material to be cute and aesthetic bc no one is doing that shit……
HES THE GOAT
@@exotictoxics idk if he was serious, or if he was just exaggerating, but i don’t think anyone would use serious Material to be cute. (But then again this is the internet so it wouldn’t be too surprising 💀)
The spookiest monsters & demons are in our heads uwu
uwu
This is why it's so important that people understand how human trafficking actually works and why using child predation as entertainment is so harmful. It's so easy to whip up a mob over literally nothing because they watch too much law & order and want to be heroes.
This is a HUGE problem right now and it’s so dangerous.
You know what else is a huge problem? The fact that everyone knows the police are corrupt criminals and they even act suspicious in their interactions here. I also find it a problem that Scare Thearter rightly calls out that this woman needs help but suggests 0 accountability to harassing police. The reason people would believe her story is that we know for a fact there's plenty of police that would do shit like this and we know this from decades of police being caught selling drugs, them being used as assaulters against protesters in peaceful protests, killing innocent and mainly black people for no reason other they're black and not doing anything these cops ask. Everyone always want to downtalk people who would believe the police are up to something nefarious while completely ignoring the decades upon decades of proof that, as an institution and and as a system that they have been and still are a bunch of violent criminals.
Its not so much that they want to be heroes saving people, its that they want to be praised and respected, so they will make up any old garbage. It has a lot to do with their own mental health and feeling worthless.
But did they ever explain why they were loading people into the van in the middle of the night? Or why they were getting dropped off at that “church” at 3am?
@@fredexdelivers They didn't publicly, though if Law Enforcement suspected anything they could ask. In the real world people don't have an obligation to reveal and explain every single aspect of their private lives to you in order to 'disprove' whatever wild fantasy is being dreamed up about them.
I am the luis garcia in the video , and I just want to THANK YOU so much for this ‘ literally spot on !!! We really appreciate you ‘
I hope you and your family are staying happy and safe, Mr. Garcia! I'm so sorry everyone has been caught in this. Take care!
Any update on the situation ? I’ve been following this for a while and it seems like norma has calmed down a bit?
Praying for your family’s safety!
Gonna upvote boost this comment
Bro your wife is bangin
People online could have made false calls to the police aka (Swatting) just to drum up more fear/videos from her.
I think she was getting swatted by trolls online
Yeah that's most likely what happened
Or the police came because she broke her restraining order
Reminds me of what happened with Gail Chord Schuler. I'm sure she's relatively okay still, at least I hope so, but there might as well have been a whole theatre troupe dedicated to re-enforcing and enabling her delusions. They would email her, comment under her videos, or even call her on Skype pretending to be characters in her imaginary world (Terrence Jenkins, Brent Spiner, Hugh Jackman, Jesus Christ, etc).
Some of them justified it by saying they were keeping an eye on her by getting close to her like that, but this woman literally went for a walk through a hurricane once because she believed her starship in orbit was beaming down an energy shield to protect her from bad weather. They also egged her on, mocked her, and pushed her to keep posting online for their entertainment at the same time they told her to take her medication.
I really wish more people on the internet understood that the mentally ill are not their toys.
with how easily streamers get swatted like that, probably
@@StargazerSkyscraper ...what the fuck? I've never heard about this.
"I really wish more people on the internet understood that the mentally ill are not their toys. " Do you mean this is a common occurrence? Geez...
As someone who doesn't use tiktok and therefore hadn't heard of any of this until seeing this video, the way he made it seem like she was actually onto something in the beginning of the video and then pulled a plot twist where Mercedes was actually Norma and SHE was the one who was actually stalking THEM is really good editing and story telling
Same here and I friggin know exactly where these spots are. Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
i do use tiktok but i didnt know abt this lmao
This reminds me of Fence Gate which happened a while back. Basically, neighbors accused an older woman of harassing them and knocking down their fence and got support online. Then the old woman responded revealing they were actually harassing her and the fence was on her property so she had the right to take it down. While it's not exactly the same as this, it does show how easy it is to make the other person look bad when there is only one side of the story.
no its pretty clear who is insane in this situation
I find this crazy because it was drilled into my head as a kid to not believe everything I read on the internet. I see weird blame-game posts all the time on the internet and it concerns me how many people will just take a strangers word as truth
Stuff like this is why i never ever believe what i see on TikTok. It gives ANYONE a platform and that includes people who probably shouldn't.
*people who DEFINITELY shouldnt*
You lost the moment you installed the app
@@maskedmarioguy2524better to be aware or unaware?
Same group who believes the earth is flat, Julia Wendelt is Madeline McCann, reptilians, giants, mermaids and that nasa was originally created to explore the ocean, etc - these same people will boldly say out loud with confidence this bs is real and you're a bully for giving them real real sources that rebuke crazy claims
Then when you share links to resources that are factual and not TH-cam videos ...they call you a bully...
The most likely theory for the church thing I can think of is that a wake was taking place,in some places (especially parts of the southern u.s) families will sometimes spend the night in the church with the deceased before the funeral, the van could have been a clergy member picking up relatives as most churches offer free transport to the church that way.
Thank you. That’s the part where I’m confused about. Since that footage was kind of glossed and not mentioned in the later half of the video. Thats the part where I had many questions
As a international viewer What is a wake?
It's basically a gathering held for family and friends of the deceased individual, and it takes place before the funeral. Sometimes the casket is open, and the people pay their respects.
Yeah that part did seem really sus
@@andyedwards9011yeah, was it ever confirmed that it was a wake or is that just a theory?
The murder of someone's pet should be investigated. I hate how little animals matter to the justice system.
what ever you throw around will come back around for you
@Stang2023 Yup
@Stang2023 relax
Justice is also not a priority to the justice system.
Humans matter little to the justice system. Let’s take care of the little animals first though.
It’s crazy how I’ve been watching this channel since I was a young high schooler. I’m 23 now and about to start going back to college, here’s to hoping this content continues
you just made me feel so so much better about my situation. I'm also 23 and gave been thinking about going back to school but was embarrassed about my age. thank you for posting this and I hope you have a blessed be week
i started watching this at 13 and am 21 now
Same here, except i was 9 when i discovered the channel, saw him blow up. hope he continues making content
@@beecycle666I’m 27 and haven’t graduated my 4 year program that I started around 20, if that helps you feel any better. Life is hard. Not everyone can go to school and get finished during the “average” amount of time (especially if you work full time). Try not to feel too bad about it. 🖤
I've been watching sinse middle school and I just finished grade 13 yesterday it's so cool he's still post videos I love this channel alot
Delusions are genuinely so scary to deal with, I've had problems with magical thinking before and it's so easy to just... Slip and lose grip on reality, start believing my thoughts are more powerful than they actually are. I have to keep myself in check even if I really want to believe something, I know it's not true and have to remind myself from time to time whenever something starts feeling really tempting again
I was in a weird discord cult in late 2020 to early 2021 and they really tried to exploit that, I didn't even know I had that issue then so the whole few months were A Lot. So essentially delusions are terrifying especially if you don't know you're dealing with those. I really hope she can get the help she needs, I have some sympathy for her even if she's clearly in the wrong
does this cult still exist? what was it?
@@institutespencer wasn't big, just a few people but apparently it was a "branch" so there might be more (or they made it up to sound more real).
You know youtube subliminals? It was based around those. Straight up told us we'd get superpowers and the government would try to get us. I was the oldest recruit there, it attracted mostly young teens and the leader was asking for their personal info sometimes and in general was pretty weird. When I left they kinda turned on me for reasons so idk if it's still a thing but it could be. I'm using the word cult for it because it definitely had cult characteristics (and let's be real discord is the perfect place to start something like that)
Same with paranoia. Mine is only interpersonal, but it can look like suddenly thinking a friend or partner is out to get me and secretly hates me at the drop of a dime. Course I did therapy and I know a lot of the time the thoughts are just misattributed feelings and I just need to communicate, but before when it was untreated it was terrifying because you do genuinely believe people are trying to hurt you.
@@institutespencer I swear I replied but it might not have sent - I'll reply again when I have more time, sorry!
@@xoderotacommenting for interest, I had a mutual that also joined something I would describe as a discord cult
“Norma” has too much time on her hands.
Reminds me of my downstairs neighbor at my last apartment. I don't know if it was just loneliness with too much time on her hands or she was off whatever meds she might've been on, but from the first day we moved in it was a constant drama of her accusing us of all sorts of crazy stuff like we were running industrial machines in our tiny apartment, we were running a drug manufacturing business, we had six huskies, and we had a bobcat in our apartment which was actually my Maine Coon mix cat. This went on for years with her only quieting down for a bit when the landlord would tell her to go call the police if she thought we were doing anything illegal. I don't know who might've moved in after we left, but I hope they have a better time than we did with the downstairs neighbor.
@@MSinistrari Neighbors can either be wonderful, non-existent, or a royal pain in the ass. It takes strong will & character to deal with what you did and remain there for years. The lady that lived across the hall from me was loony & my neighbor to the left was a heroine addict. Two years later & both new neighbors I don’t even know their names. We all just mind our business.
Did you have six huskies? Cause I’d say all that too if you were my upstairs neighbor. That should be illegal in apartments. Why would you torture animals like that? Even one husky in an apartment is terrible. Those animals need lots of land to exercise and be free. 6 dogs plus a cat is mental. Even two dogs in a cat in apartment is mental.
I guess I should be grateful that while I'm lonely and have too much time, I spend it thinking about how to tell obviously fake fictional stories in an enjoyable way. I hope that hobby continues to stick.
@@ruminating1596 He obviously did not have 6 huskeys
This is why critical thinking is so important. Question what you see. Accept nothing at face value. Always look for more than one source before jumping to conclusions. The fact people harassed the actual victims, going so far as to damage their property, speaks volumes for how easily people can be fooled and manipulated. It is truly scary how people will be manipulated in the age of AI. That aside as someone with Bipolar disorder 1 myself I feel it is a little oversimplified to automatically conclude Norma is herself a victim. One can absolutely contribute to the likelihood of having a mental health episode through their own life choices, something that took a few stays in a mental health clinic for me to finally learn. As a favourite podcaster of mine who also has bipolar says “Mental illness isn’t your fault, but it is your responsibility” To me giving someone a free pass just because they have a mental illness does more harm than good.
well said. Norma's situation is tragic, and yes - she deserves sympathy, but she is not a victim.
Wise words.
Yall just soft
@@aroach7461 I don't disagree
I've become so jaded on youtube that when you said "she needs that help" I thought you were going to segway into a betterhelp sponsor block
LMAO that would have been comedy gold
Probably a good indicator that you should take a break and go outside
This is why stalkers need to be taken more seriously
The problem is how are they going to prosecute this as a law as this would mean they'd be arresting people who just look like they are following or harassing people.
It's pretty much unenforceable.
@@LobsterwithinternetI sort of disagree. A lot of times there will be a history of the victim telling this person to leave them alone, not come to their home, workplace, or school, and that not being respected. I feel like there has gotta be some way we can increase protection for the victims.
They genuinely do. Stalkers of all ages too. I still don’t know how my ex got my school email or how long he was stalking me in the hall at school but months later he threatened to sh**t a school up and got suspended so. Yikes..
@@Lobsterwithinternetif there's enough history and evidence of threats and slander then cops should be able to do something
@@lunawolfheart336 And what constitutes that standard? And what stops its rampant abuse by either authorities or the ones reporting it?
That's the thing about a law, especially about something as subjective as harassment.
She went from accusing her neighbor of harming children to threatening to harm children herself.
Its almost always projection with these people, isn't it?
Yup. Just like people who say they are being "gang stalked" when it's them who are walking around recording everyone.
When you 👉 1 finger at someone there are 3 pointing back at yourself
@@SweetLilWrenThat's why I always point with my whole hand 🫱
the whole "big ol arms" and "looks like a man, straight like a man" reminds me of transvestigation conspiracy, which is one of the wildest conspiracies you can get into lol
She also throws the T slur at them right after saying that stuff
Yeah, the sudden racism and transphobia was wild. Conspiracy theories often blend together when you get really into them, I wouldn't be surprised if she "researched" conspiracies online and came across transvestigation.
o ya dued thats super serial
It's oddly absurd how much this happens to black women and other women of colour (who are more than often actually cisgender). Idk about you but i think its kind of racist and misogynistic to assume a woman is manly because of ethnic features
it's unfortunate because it's very easy to clock trans, there's no reason to claim celebrities and such are hiding anything.
I knew something was up the moment you see her security feed... showing her neighbor's yard. Why would anyone have a security camera pointed at someone else's property? You can kinda see her pull into her driveway but like 70% of the camera FOV is not Munoz's business, so why would she be recording it in the first place?
Watch the Chris Watts case . Thanks to the neighbors camera a murda was solved so yes it is important.
@@DonutsForever24 That's a very delusional sounding rationalization of violating another person's privacy. First, the word important wasn't used. The OP said they knew something was up, because of her suspicious use of cameras to spy on her neighbors. Second, using the Chris Watts case is apples to oranges. Chris Watts said he'd been having items stolen from his property which would be why the neighbor was recording footage aimed at his property and regardless of that footage that case was going to be solved. It wasn't just a wild whodunnit.
Again, like the OP said it's not her business so why is she recording it? Privacy laws only allow for recording of PUBLIC places and of places easily seen and within line of sight to a public space. Putting a camera on a pole in order to circumvent privacy curtains that the neighbors shouldn't have had to put up in the first place, is a clear violation of a persons 4th amendment right to privacy.
@UCYjeJIqRZs-h0BahZOQxjcA his neighbor's camera wasn't pointed directly at his house. the camera was supposed to keep an eye on the neighbor's car and garage in case someone broke into it. it just so happened that chris's garage was right next to his.
@puppyhowler yea but it's essential nowadays
@@DonutsForever24 no it's not, and these people already explained it to you. you're just coming up with excuses to justify why you're spying on your neighbours.
you emphasize giving both sides of a story, like a real journalist. respect
There is no "both sides of the story" just the truth.
@@Taniatruthyou are so so stupid
Since when have "real journalists" cared about presenting both sides of the story? 😂
Well done. Portraying Norma’s POV credibly and then showing the reality was masterful.
Thank you! In a lot of my other videos where I am highly skeptical of conspiracy theories, I get a lot of criticism for being stubborn, stupid, or closed-minded. I figured making this video in this way perfectly demonstrated why it is extremely important to be skeptical of conspiracy theories until you have strong evidence that supports them. It genuinely concerns me how few people are able to think critically about stuff like this.
@@ScareTheater Exactly. It’s also good production. The Netflix series “American Nightmare “ does something similar.
How much you want to bet that Norma killed her own cat........................
mentall ill ppl are mostly non-violent
You're a strong copaganda believer aren't you.
@@jasonm7973 what
@@jasonm7973You see what they been doing to blak men over the years? Tuh. & you wanna talk about Copaganda. You prob bout racist as them
@@jasonm7973 found norma's alt
A friend of mine has been stalked/harassed for the last couple of years. Several threatening emails/texts per day, everyday. Whenever she blocks the number, they get a new one. Whenever she gets a new phone number or email address, it only takes a few days for the stalker to find it. They've called into her work and told her bosses all kinds of disgusting lies about her. She knows who it is (the ex girlfriend of one of her ex boyfriends), but the police can't/won't do anything. I feel so bad for the Garcia's. It's only further proof how screwed up our justice system is that someone can so blatantly do this to people and not go to jail/a hospital.
Just the thought of having neighbors like this is terrifying. I hope Norma receives the help she needs.
Man Gavin shut up you dingleburg
Most likely, she won't.
@@Lobsterwithinternetyea, it genuinely sucks
Having a neighbor like her is one of my top ten fears.
Fuck that, she needs to be jailed.
I could not care less about her, the innocent people around her are in danger.
I truly hope that Norma gets help for her mental health issues before she does anything drastic. It's sad how often individuals who are struggling get ignored.
It’s by design.
It was the result of the controversy over abuse in asylums and the popularity of neoliberal economics that saw the downsizing and privatization of everything.
The plot twist is crazy 😭
while I appreciate how tactfully you handled this issue, as a mentally ill person that grew up surrounded by other mentally ill people: some people do not want help. some people get offered help every step of the way, multiple times, and they turn it down. and illness or not, she is dangerous and a stalker and needs to face consequences.
I mean someone who's delusional isn't going to accept help bc help to them is reinterpreted as harm. They think their delusions are real and right, and those telling them otherwise are trying to hurt them.
Like imagine right now how you would respond to someone telling you yours sick and need help. You'd argue that you're not. If someone tried to force you, you'd get angry.
@@thisisanaccountalright im referring to people that get people, enough to realise their delusion and decide with a clear mind to not take meds and seek treatment.
@@Carols989Truly mentally ill people lack free will.
I remember having a creative writing idea I never followed through with along the lines of this story.
Back when the internet collectively learned the term “human trafficking” there was a flood of stories about creepy people in Walmart trying to kidnap children only for op to scare them off in time.
Basically I wanted to make two Reddit posts, with one talking about a man who was following at a little girl around the toy aisle, but when op went to confront the man he grabbed the girl and ran.
And the other about a dad watching his daughter while she looked at toys who noticed a crazed woman staring at them, and when she started to approach he grabbed his daughter and ran our
That’s awesome
i seem to remember seeing something on the news (about maybe 5-10 years ago) about something very similar to this actually happening. i think it was actually at a Walmart, too. i can't remember if the person went up to the kid and started accusing them of being trafficked and caused a big scene, or if the person actually tried to take the kid.
That actually happened in my town; a caucasian man was carrying around his ill and cranky daughter who was mixed white/black at the Walgreen's Pharmacy, he called the police because he said a black lady was following him and his child and had actually tried to kidnap his daughter, meanwhile, the black lady had called 911 because she saw a white guy snatch up a little black girl coming out of the restroom and the girl was crying and trying to fight him.
This is definitely schizophrenia. The paranoia, the obsession with technology, hearing voices inside of computers… ifykyk
Its so refreshing to hear a voice of compassion. Sometimes we lose sight of our humanity, when we jump to conclusions and choose a 'side'. Reality is rarely straightforward, there is always a big picture. In cases like these, when there are severe mental health issues at play, its important to remember the 'perpetrator' is unwell. It doesn't mean ignoring reality or consequences, but it's better to withhold judgement when we don't know enough to be in that position.
I'm reminded of the same theme with the whole 'baby reindeer' saga, and the 'stalker' who is being demonized for the purposes of 'entertainment'.
Thank you for being a voice of reason, and having the integrity to take responsibility for how this comes across to your viewers.
I watched Baby Reindeer recently. Really good show. It had me literally sobbing during parts of it. Very real
The sad truth is that accusatory behavior gives people power, and for those with not much to do and/or mental issues it is impossible for them to change given that they have probably been like that for many years. This type of stuff is hell to watch, I don't miss the times where my life was disrupted by the poor actions of others.
Kind of reminds me of the ‘auditor’ community.
Imagine being named "Muñoz" with an Ñ and telling your mexican neighbors to go back to Mexico.
It’s because other Hispanics think they are better than Mexicans
3 VIDEOS IN QUICK SUCCESSION? GOD MIGHT BE REAL
These cases either make a specific kind of people go full-blown eugenics against ill people or help raise awareness of how serious mental health is and what happens when it goes untreated. Extremely double-edged sword.
Anybody who takes Uncle Adolfs side on this isn't someone worth listening to, in my opinion.
The vast majority of mentally ill people aren't dangerous to others (in fact it's much more likely for others to hurt _them_) but some people love to latch on to the "scary crazy person" narrative. I wish the mental healthcare system was better and easier to get into, a lot of people need it :(
Raising awareness about the serious implications of "mental health", its effect on the self/community, and WHY these people are untreated in the first place is eugenic.
@@stirner4879 what is this supposed to mean big dawg? Kinda seems like you're defending eugenics there guy
@@trash_bender420 I am defending eugenics
scare is on a nosleep arc clearly. loving the new schedule tho. more vids for us
Crazy foreshadowing with that line about shooting
You have made Myuu's music very nostalgic to me.
his music was everywhere back in the creepypasta reading days. good times.
Implying Myuu's music isn't already nostalgic.
I liked it as well!
Everyone, PLEASE keep your animals indoors unless you are outside supervising them!!
... until you learn where animals live...
@@ramboti6402 most domestic animals are invasive and in many cases not made for life outdoors. Cats are also big bird killers, having a negative impact on local ecosystems.
@@ramboti6402 are you really suggesting domestic animals belong in the wild? lol
@@ramboti6402 you cannot be serious. Why does everyone on yt have to be a fuckin contrarian
She was projecting lol
This is very similar to Buddy Webb, That Chapter made a video about him several years ago. He believes there is a vast conspiracy of people living in underground tunnels and people living in his attic stealing resources.
I mean, there was definitely some Jewish ppl building some tunnels in NyC.
@@Ishbikesand.....?
@@TheKnockoutNerd AND *everything isn’t a conspiracy.* I want to know what they’re up to..
been watching u since 2015 scare theater, you have gotten me through so many car rides and used to scare me so bad with the old intro u had, thank u for always uploading man
Thank you for sticking around for so long!
I hope Norma gets the help she needs, it's scary how there's a lot of people who can be a danger to themselves and others but just bc they have not caused a tragedy yet they tend to be ignored, it seems that Norma's family and even the police are very aware of the situation but there's nothing being done bc she hasn't acted yet (besides what she did to her sister), which is terrifying
Luckily, she's still dealing with the court stuff for her sister. Hopefully, they'll see her issues and get her help.
I think the way you presented this was brilliant. The fact you showed Normas perspective first, it looks totally believable. Now imagine actually *being* Norma. In her mind, this is all totally real. We are lucky enough to see the outside perspective and the wherewithal to interpret the facts, whereas she is unable to convince herself otherwise. I feel awful for the Garcias and for the sister. For their sake, just as much as Norma’s, I really hope she gets the help she needs before anything worse happens. Also that poor cat 😢
Stories like this make me really miss the 90s, before the Internet became huge...
Thank you for speaking at the end of the video about mental health, I myself have lived with mental health disorder all my life and the need to get the message out to the community that these people need help and not punishment is so important , even if that means it's against the wants of that person to seek this help it's to important to ignore!
The switch up from showing her perspective first and then going into the Luis’s perspective made this video so much better. I was on her side until I saw that pic of her sitting on the roof next to that security camera😂
6:22 Foreshadowing is a narrative device in which suggestions, or warnings about events to come are dropped or planted. Sometimes foreshadowing is relatively obvious, other times it can be more obscure or isosteric.
Its often called this in the business
Mental Illness is a serious problem that always goes ignored in America,There’s mentally ill people living on the streets and With families who are unable to have access to help,So many incidents I hear involving the mentally Ill is always saddening knowing it could’ve been avoided if they’ve received help just a bit sooner
It's the same in the UK 😢 they only get the attention they need when they end up in the criminal justice system. If they are unfortunate to commit the more heinous crimes, their lives end up ruined from trial by media, getting labeled as monsters, and thrown in prison with a mark on their head.
We don't have to pay for appointments and can get meds easily in the UK, so it's not really similar
I really do hope she gets help before all possible shit hits the fan...
and that Scaretheater stops adding a full minute of filler in front of every video 🙏
The condition of her house makes me question her mental health. Hoarding like that usually indicates other issue. She seems paranoid and irrational.
Bro when the cops were around and kids were being taken to a church at 3am, as soon as you said a church I thought this was way out of her hands.
I cant believe theyre just scaring each other 💀
You gotta feel bad for those that have to create a world where it's more comfortable being messed up in their own way than what the reality is.😞
It’s craxy you think anyone has a choice.
@@larsonfamilyhouseIn a lot of cases, they do.
@@LobsterwithinternetIf someone is mentally ill, no, they absolutely do not have a choice. That is their reality and they absolutely 100% believe that those things are happening. The definition of a delusion is a fixed, false belief. Fixed as in you can't just show someone proof or talk them out of it and they won't believe it anymore. It's there, whether it makes sense or not.
After seeing the other perspective, I'm 100% sure she called the police on herself in order to make that tiktok video.
Crazy cause I really believed the police were being shady at that point
Nah some troll on TikTok probably was able to find her address and swatted her which made her believe her lies even more
ScareTheater is the GOAT. Love to watch this kind of content on summer breaks.
Man it’s scary how crazy people like Norma can fool the public into thinking something it’s true and the public has no reason not to believe it. Hope The Garcia family is doing well and gets away from this crazy woman.
I still can’t forget when bro called himself “Scare Daddy” 😂
2:25 Who else was anticipating the ad promotion right here? That build up, followed by a sudden pause and black screen....That's a classic technique for introducing the sponsor 😂
No sponsor on this one haha. But our friend, Factor, will be making an appearance on the next video
Frequent scare theater videos make the world go round
3:30 living in a country with a lot of religious people I'm just kinda used to them periodically having their weirdo holidays that some people apparently actually care about. Like, it'll be a random Sunday and suddenly all the shops are closed bc it's the moving holiday of Our Lady Most Blessed Virgin Thrice Admirable. They already have morning mass and midnight mass, what I'm getting at is, I personally wouldn't jump to "must be human trafficking"
genuinely, the kind of content you make is so disturbing/interesting to me, i’ve always been excited to see what you found
We were surfing the petit tube one night on a live stream, and I saw a similar woman like this. She was living in a trailer park, harassing all her neighbors with her camera, every video has 7-8 views. Even harassing the police which comes to her house. It was extreme cringe to watch.
Just goes to show that there really are two sides to every story and no matter how compelling a string of videos might seem it's important to remain skeptical, you cannot take it at face value.
Paranoid schizophrenia. But I can see how these events make her condition worst. She shouldn't live alone.
so what actually was the secret 3am church ritual
Probably a vigil for something. For example, the Easter Day Vigil lasts for the entirety of the night.
I honestly don't know, but it could have been anything. For all we know, that footage wasn't actually even taken at 3 am. It's difficult to trust anything Norma puts out
Maybe midnight mass ?
Midnight mass is a thing
It’s really just a matter of what sect the church is. I’ve been to overnight lock ins with youth class in the past at my church.
I’ve been following this whole situation since Norma’s video popped up on my feed and at first I was lowkey believing her at first until Luis and his wife’s video proving all her points wrong and then Norma went on a craze and that fully confirmed their story.
Thank you for how you handle mental illness in all of your videos. You have compassion I wish others had.
This is straight up a future netflix documentary
this woman is a danger.
It’s so crazy that I started watching this channel when I was in like middle school and now I’m going to college in the fall 😮
To explain the 3am church thing, maybe they were having a 'lock in'. Its like A big slumber party where a church group (usually the teenage class) goes to church for a slumber party with pizza and snacks and play games and dance and just have fun with their friends in their youth group. Usually as teens do they try to pull an allnighter. I went to plenty of em as a kid
the sheriff's department with the MOST gang members in it... definitely something criminal going on with that.
Facts.
14:04, Bro sounds so panicked, it's okay, no ones gonna take you to the Gulag 😂
Yea that whole time I was like “bro it’s cool, breathe first then speak”
No one we know of that is.
LA, California. Where bail is nonexistent, attempted murder is taken seriously, and the crazies get to make everyone's life miserable.
LA and other famous cities are always chaotic...
the city of angels lmao
The angles! Commiefornia!
@@naingaung2748 Anything you don't like is automatically a communist lmfao
Liberal lunatics love CA!
I think this is definitely a situation where the internet has made things much worse. You've got Munoz's fans encouraging her and I wouldn't be surprised if trolls were behind some of the calls that brought the police to her place (therefore also encouraging her). Plus, there's this entire conspiracy shibboleth that provides a ready-made explanation for every stray worry ("Neighbor acting weird? Well, clearly they're human traffickers / gangstalkers / Satanists / lizard people") that's become even more accessible with the internet.
I don't think the internet made Munoz do this. But the internet certainly made her entire situation worse.
Omg I can’t believe you covered this case. I remember discovering this account way back but it’s crazy seeing you cover it now.
So many people on tiktok take things at face value and Norma just takes advantage of that. Hope this video spreads like crazy on tiktok cause while she is mentally ill, it doesn't excuse her actions or pardon her from punishment.
Thank you for the many videos recently
Trust me, if people are doing shady stuff they aren't gonna do it on the front driveway for everyone to see 😂
Exactly. Real trafficking is very sneaky and happens right under people's noses.
11:47 Was not expecting that. 😂
BRO I JUST REALIZED YOU REACHED ONE MIL!!!!!! IM SO HAPPY FOR YOU CONGRATULATIONS BRO!!!!! thank you for being one of my favorite horror creators you are an insperation
The cops knocking on her door sounded SO fake. “… a 911 call in this area.”
I’m guessing she either got 2 guys to do it, it was some guys from her channel, or even the neighbors.
I think a Motel 6 near me is posting police enforced drugs buys & prostitution.
Wouldn't doubt it. Both motel 6s here in billings have had many managers coming and going. These last 2 were doing some very sketchy stuff before they got fired/investigated
Like police in charge of the racket?
@@larsonfamilyhouse Yeah, I guess instead of “enforced” I should had used the word “protected”.
@@vickil3256 whoa that’s crazy but I wouldn’t doubt it for sure!! I’m sure stuff like that happens way more often than anyone would think!
The word enforced makes this way funnier than it should be. If you go to Motel 6, you WILL do drugs and you WILL hire prostitutes, or else…. 😂
Finally a new vid when rewatching his old vids
Maybe because I've grown to keep an open mind, But I started having doubts about Norma's "conspiracy" when things supposedly got worse after some of her posts. If all of those things were true, Why would police bother intimidating her on camera, knowing that she'd post it and it would lead to more attention towards her and her findings?
I really appreciate that you shed an emphasis on mental illness. It's an epidemic in the United States, not only due to existential conflicts, but due to external conflicts as well. Our economy, the lack or having a good job or good income, unresolved trauma from youth, there's a lot more than someone just being "crazy." There's almost always a cause and effect. There's some instances where people do things just because, but it's normally always because there's been something bothering them for a long time, but they've never gotten help or addressed the problems. It's really sad, and the way you made this video was honestly heartwarming in a way. The woman CLEARLY needs some mental help, and hopefully she can get it in the healthiest way possible. Keep up the great work, ScareTheater!
Your videos are all so great! Love the mindset you have too! I hope she does get the help she deserves. “No one chooses to be mentally ill”, well said!
I’d like to add that I love how you did that spin, showing the reality of both sides! Basically coming down to, it’s all in how you tell a story
Ahh so... Basically another case of Kawahara Miyoko but more violent? Like you know, that most viral crazy neighbor in Japan aka Mrs. Noisy?
If possible would you consider making a video about "Saki Sanobashi." (Also known as "Go For A Punch"). The investigation has seemingly come to a standstill and I would love to hear your thoughts on the subject.
It doesn’t exist
@@zixea3318 You are probably correct. I still want to hear this thoughts on it though. He has debunked many things in the past. I just wanna hear his thoughts on it and see if he can dig up anything no one else was able to.
someone already did a video on it, it doesn't exist. there was an extensive search done, and the OP who described the anime admitted to making it up
The sister should be getting more heat if she has not been already. She is allowing her mentally unwell sister to do everything she is doing.
Sentimentality in these situations is always tragic.
“Allowing” is interesting. I really don’t like how we blame other people for mental illness. Its just another variety of victim blaming.
This is an important aspect of when people give 'evidence' on the internet while trying to gather people to their side. While videos, photos, texts, and so on might be genuine, they're only showing part of the picture, with a narrative constructed either from what the person who took the evidence BELIEVES is happening, or intentionally falsified to paint themselves in a better light. So often it can still be a game of he-said/she-said if a certain bar isn't met, because the evidence can be spun multiple ways.
That bit at the end about both of them being the victim is really important, it's easy to get emotional when you hear about dead pets and chronic harassments so it's nice to give a reminder that the solution to this isn't more harassment but treatment for her disease,it's very empathic of you
You should make longer videos like 20-30 minutes I would love 20 minutes of hearing your calming voice with scary stuff
NOT THE CAT
i was literally just binging you and hoping you posted..
this is a very responsible youtuber, thank you for giving the clarification about mental health. People want the more salacious conspiracy stories rather than the sad truth, kudos for a great video.
Man its crazy how far people take disliking ppl. Especially one you live next to. Icant wait to move further into the country. Im from cape cod, lives in Boston and Lynn for the past 3 years and in February i moved to the Berkshire Mounains. Muchbetter for mysoul. Im recovering from fentanyl and crack. Im cultivating myself ro be succesful. Im very thankful for all i have today and i love all you guys here. Stay safe and be friends with your neighbors.