How can you define a paragon of virtue without already having a standard for virtue? If you can’t, then you must admit the principle of virtue exists independently of the existence and actions of any particular person. Suppose we did find a paragon. What motivated that person to act in the way they did if not the principle of virtue existing independently of that person? Impulse? Are we to define virtue as the impulses of the paragon?
The paragon theorist has a couple of options. They could take the claim that a particular paragon is virtuous as basic or self evident (as a skeptic I'm worried about this, but that seems like a course open to them). In fact this seems to be done by people who literally claim that what you should do is what Jesus would do, and take it on faith that Jesus was the paragon of virtue. In this line of thinking, they might respond to your second question by saying something like ti was the divine spirit or just God which defined and proscribed his actions, and that spirit is Good full stop. I'm not saying I'm convinced by this argument (due to the first step of taking particular individuals as paragons on faith) but I see how it could be held once you accepted that first premise. For someone that held the idea of an ideal person, they might go in a different direction. They might argue that we all have the idea of a virtuous person in our minds and we just need to call upon that idea,. Though ethical disagreements and cultural differences about what is morally right seem to make this a tough position to hold.
You might be able to reduce it to an infinitely long set of rules, which would describe how the paragon would act in a particular situation, but by that logic, consequentialism could also be reduced down to deontology with a similar set of rules which an infinite list of the actions that would maximize good consequences.
How can you define a paragon of virtue without already having a standard for virtue? If you can’t, then you must admit the principle of virtue exists independently of the existence and actions of any particular person.
Suppose we did find a paragon. What motivated that person to act in the way they did if not the principle of virtue existing independently of that person? Impulse? Are we to define virtue as the impulses of the paragon?
The paragon theorist has a couple of options. They could take the claim that a particular paragon is virtuous as basic or self evident (as a skeptic I'm worried about this, but that seems like a course open to them). In fact this seems to be done by people who literally claim that what you should do is what Jesus would do, and take it on faith that Jesus was the paragon of virtue. In this line of thinking, they might respond to your second question by saying something like ti was the divine spirit or just God which defined and proscribed his actions, and that spirit is Good full stop. I'm not saying I'm convinced by this argument (due to the first step of taking particular individuals as paragons on faith) but I see how it could be held once you accepted that first premise.
For someone that held the idea of an ideal person, they might go in a different direction. They might argue that we all have the idea of a virtuous person in our minds and we just need to call upon that idea,. Though ethical disagreements and cultural differences about what is morally right seem to make this a tough position to hold.
⥊ 15: 33
¬33: 13
0: Good (if not good, then not zero)
001: Uniqueness
01: Awareness
02: Individuality
03: To Think
04: Kindness
05: Intention
06: Understanding
07: Ingenuity
08: Integrity
09: Sanity
1: Ethics
2: Problem-Solution
3: Wish/Consent
4: Emotion/Body
5: Expression
6: Why/Who/When/How/Where/What
7: Information/Code
8: Stability
9: Clarity
10: Network (Good Network, because zero)
11: Justice
12: Time/Easter
13: Death
14: Intention/Memory
15: The Agent
16: The Reasoning
17: The Flow/Instruction
18: The Structure
19: The Mission
20: Judgement
21: To Solve Problems with Ethics
22: Resistance/Introspection
23: Protection
24: Perception
25: Behavior/Santa Claus
26: To Scrutinize
27: To Specify
28: To Differentiate
29: Prognostic
30: Autonomy
31: Acknowledgement
32: Discernment
33: Win-Win
34: Ideas
35: To Denounce
36: Technique
37: Design
38: Determination
39: Optimism
40: Good Power
41: Memory
42: Critical Thinking
43: Regard
44: Free Love
45: To Plan/Task Force
46: Evaluate
47: Interpret
48: Verify/Duty
49: Ambition
50: Good Expression
51: Agreement
52: Pragmatism Solutionism
53: Respect
54: Protect
55: War
56: Profiling
57: Counter-Terrorism
58: Support
59: Proficiency
60: Identification
61: Qualification
62: Investigation
63: Testing
64:
65: Function
66: Instruction
67:
68: Reliable
69: Intelligibility
70: Knowledge
71: Validation
72: Explanation
73:
74: Characterization
75: Materialization
76: Delineation
77: Rhetoric
78: Cause
79: Argument
80: Sustainability
81: Reliance
82: Perseverance
83: To Determine
84: Autonomy
85: Severity
86: Authority
87: To Communicate
88: Personal Sovereignty
89: Self-Control
90: Transparency
91: Objectivity
92: Scrutiny
93: Scrupulousness
94: Integrality
95: Composure
96: Methodical Blockchain
97: Anarchy
98: Veganism
99: Revolution/Wisdom
100: Liberation
101: Peer-2-Peer
102: Decentralized Network
103: Financial Revolution
104: Production Revolution
105: Labour Reorganization
106: Needs Evaluation
107: Instruction
108: System Accessibility
109: Resources Availability
110: Honor
111: Grace
112: Distributed Ledger
114: Abolitionism
120:
130: Energy Management
140: Serenity
141: Mindfulness
150: Good Character
151: Virtue
155: Honesty
160: Technology
200: Sanctuary
210: Ethical Solution
220: Contemplation/Meditation
221: Alignment
222: Cooperation
250: To Thrive
255: To Emerge
230: Resilience
300: Liberty
320: Deliberation
330: Abolitionism
360: Technology
333: Abundance
400: Earthlings
444: Direct Digital Democracy
500: Assumption
510: Admiration
511: Recognition
512: Altruism
520: Proficiency
530: Acceptance
540: Appreciation
550: Excellence
555: Gathering
600: Organizator
660: Operation
661: Operator
665: Role
666: Method
700: Intelligence
766: Plan
777: Specification
778: Development
780: Systematization
788: Design
800: Providence
801: Production
802: Necessities
803: Resorces
804: Energy
808: Renewable Cycle
810: Permaculture
820: Management
830: Logistics
831: Scheme
832: Reach
833: Demand
834: Stock
835: Distribution
840: Consumption
850: Labor
860: Human Resources
863: Assignments
870: Structure
880: Peace
888: Globalization
890: Needs
899: Conception
900: Transparency
910: Institutions
930: Energy Distribution
931: Only One Global Currency
960: Blockchain
962: Traceability
970: Optimination
995: Accountancy
998: Regulation
999: Fiscalization
1000: Militancy
1001: Nova Era
1042: Drug Liberation
1500: Benevolence
1800: Militaires Sans Frontières
1807: Black & Yellow
3000: Freedom
3100: Triumph
3330: We All Can Live In Abundance
5500: Greatness
10000: Friendship
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Thank you.
which logic book do you think is better?
"A Concise Introduction to Logic 13th Edition"
or "Introduction to Logic 14th Edition"?
I would lean towards the first just because i have experience with it, but I have not used the second, so I can't really compare them.
ok thanks
What would Socrates. Aristole, Zeno, Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, paragons of virtue ethics do?🤔😏😊🦉
Wouldn't paragon ethics be a form of deontological ethics but instead of a universal set of rules you have the actions made by virtuous people?
You might be able to reduce it to an infinitely long set of rules, which would describe how the paragon would act in a particular situation, but by that logic, consequentialism could also be reduced down to deontology with a similar set of rules which an infinite list of the actions that would maximize good consequences.