Why Wasn't Haiden Deegan Punished Like Tom Vialle??? Mitch Payton Protests Deegan!!!!

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  • @KellyKelly-qc1rt
    @KellyKelly-qc1rt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    AMA blew the call again.
    Neither rider gained an advantage from ending up off track. In fact, Deegs was off longer. No penalties should have been the answer.

    • @Rickmaki
      @Rickmaki 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep

  • @milesuit300
    @milesuit300 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    They both gassed it when off. Neither one gained time. If Vialle is penalized so should Degan.

  • @jetdrvr5909
    @jetdrvr5909 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Should have been a NO penalty for either rider, and the AMA needs to get there head of their ass..

    • @KellyKelly-qc1rt
      @KellyKelly-qc1rt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed.
      When the sanctioning authority is managing the podium and points in the first round of the MX Series, I believe they are overreaching and deciding outcomes. Let them race!
      On the flip side, I’m disappointed to hear that Pro Circuit protested. Long season and now everyone is going to be watching them for any chance to return the favor.

    • @markbest5127
      @markbest5127 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No doubt, the call against Vialle was dumb AF.

  • @Racerman27410
    @Racerman27410 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Vialle never looked back to check before reentering the track. Deegan did look back and checked then re entered at a safe speed for where he was

    • @USMC-1911
      @USMC-1911 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Deegan was probably a good 10 feet further behind kitchen when he was back on the track , pro circuit is falling apart with all the injuries I think this was just a desperate attempt to win a race .

    • @Mbowman223
      @Mbowman223 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Deegan didn't look back at all WATCH THE VIDEO🤣

    • @LeftThumbBreak
      @LeftThumbBreak 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They’re talking about the Moto 2 off track.

    • @randyreynolds4252
      @randyreynolds4252 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      re watch it, he did not look behind him, he was railing it when he re entered

    • @zakdean9993
      @zakdean9993 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Deegan fan boy forsure. Might as well ask him if he wants you to swallow or take it on the back.

  • @st25at
    @st25at 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    AMA has said they won’t dock Deegan in an effort to avoid mudders for the next month that would have eventuated from the fan boys tears. I agree!

  • @Mbowman223
    @Mbowman223 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Deegan said he didnt ACCELERATE but theres a roost of dirt coming off his tire🤣

    • @jamesadams2334
      @jamesadams2334 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ......as he lost ground to Kitchen. He did not take advantage of the situation.

    • @st25at
      @st25at 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jamesadams2334isn’t the issue acceleration?

    • @sr241265
      @sr241265 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The issue is always if there is any acceleration. If they see a roost coming from rear tyre, clearly there's acceleration. If there's no roost at all, the rider is clear.
      This is completely rigged, I wonder if there was any money exchanged ?? Allegedly

    • @IVJmes
      @IVJmes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sr241265 vialle went off track in a flat roller section deegs went off on damn near mountains he needed a little throttle in his situation to stay safe was probably the argument that was made for deegan.

    • @marmaleg5309
      @marmaleg5309 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@IVJmesprobably this. And the fact that Deegan lost more time than Vialle

  • @Gazza-zg2tr
    @Gazza-zg2tr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Give Viale back his points faverotism for Deegen.

  • @kentr2424
    @kentr2424 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In all fairness, neither one should've been penalized as no advantage was gained by either rider. That said, if the AMA penalizes one rider for the "infraction", for fairness and consistency they've got to penalize both.
    The AMA is known for inconsistency in applying its own rules - this is just another example.

  • @Slayeranon
    @Slayeranon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Tom was shafted

  • @RobertGibson-e3r
    @RobertGibson-e3r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now that there's GAMBLING in this sport, it will never be fair . Someone in the AMA had money on Deegan .

  • @EdSherry
    @EdSherry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Does anybody not know what the rules are or what the official said on the broadcast or did they just have Deegan derangement syndrome. Whoever gains time gets penalized, Deegs did not gain time. The have the same software the teams have the ghost software ad they can compare to another lap time. All these haters are gonna be really crying this year. Everybody was saying Tom was going to stomp the field and Deegs gapped him by 20….

    • @st25at
      @st25at 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isn’t the issue about acceleration? Or do we change the rules for Deegan and claim everyone has Deegan derangement syndrome?

  • @Wormington_
    @Wormington_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You’re all mad cuz it’s deegan. Look at the time stamps of the gap. Deegan had zero gain from going off track in fact lost a second to kitchen because of it. Went from 2.5 to 1.5. In vialles case he went full throttle the entire time and jumped back onto track without looking. Stop hating cuz it’s haiden. We get it majority of you don’t like him but get over it

    • @Trippyhippy0420
      @Trippyhippy0420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      One of the few people in these comments who actually watched the race

    • @Wormington_
      @Wormington_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Trippyhippy0420 it’s not difficult to rewatch it for all the idiots that saw one clip and immediately hated on deegan. Fan or not kids put more work in than 90% of the field. Kitchen even admitted he wouldn’t have caught haiden anyways.

    • @marmaleg5309
      @marmaleg5309 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sounds to me, if the rules don't say anything about time gained or lost on an off-track excursion, then they should. Because whether they accelerated off track is really less important than whether they gained time doing so.

  • @mentalmoto763
    @mentalmoto763 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    there was a difference between the two riders going off track, when Tom Vialle went off track it was a riding mistake. Tom skipped 4 whoops and maintained position ahead of Deegan. When Deegan went off track it was not because he overshot the berm like Tom did, it was because Deegan was unaware the berm had been blown out at the end. Deegan had no choice but to go off track, as you see in the video Deegan lost ground behind Levi. When you compare the two, one rider lost control and went off track, the other rider was forced off track because the berm blew out. The AMA does need to be more consistent, especially with Tuff-blocks and Yellow pole markers causing crashes and injuries to the riders.

    • @brucewygal133
      @brucewygal133 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Doesn't matter why you go off the track.

    • @dustinsmith4068
      @dustinsmith4068 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They were both rider mistakes. Whether or not either one or both should or should not have been penalized may be a different story. But they were both rider mistakes. A rider doesn't get to say, "oh hey, I can't be held accountable for changing track conditions in a 40 rider professional national! That berm should be there the entire race!" And tuff blocks and yellow pole markers have nothing to do with either incident. They both appeared to accelerate when they went off track ,as evidenced by the roost from their tires. In fact, Haiden looks like he gave two good spurts of roost before deciding to back off.

    • @BenWilson24
      @BenWilson24 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The 2nd moto incident is what they were held up for, not the first Moto. Idk everyone is reviewing the first Moto incident. In the 2nd moto, he gassed it to huck the jump when he got back on

    • @randyreynolds4252
      @randyreynolds4252 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BenWilson24 right, he railed that hill while still off track

    • @chris35moto-q4b
      @chris35moto-q4b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed, not even a deegan fan. He let off when it was safe to let off. He pitched himself outside of that berm going 30+ mph effectively blind and needed to keep on to get to a safe let off point. Vialle was very obviously at race pace for his whole excursion edit: anyone feeling the same way is likely looking at the wrong incident. Check out moto 2 , 3 laps to go

  • @canyoumimic
    @canyoumimic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean degan came off the gas to give the space back. The clip you show of him going off track he gets on the gas to swing away from that wall but then stands up slow on the gas and the gap is the same if not bigger once he is on the gas again after the jump. Then Jean Girard is throwing more and more roost off track. Just the difference I see from the examples givin.

  • @shanemckinnen3100
    @shanemckinnen3100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think the real difference here is that Deegon looked back before he re-entered the track and he did lose ground to kitchen between the time he went off and re-entered - So no advantage gained, in fact he lost a few bike lengths.

    • @BenWilson24
      @BenWilson24 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Might be the real difference if that was the incident that was under review. It was the 2nd moto incident that hung things up, not the first Moto

  • @superzuki8222
    @superzuki8222 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's a tough call either way. They both looked to accelerate up the side of the track. My 2 cents. Vialle had opportunities to pull back onto the track before where he did not the same for Deegan. Deegan was behind Vialle when Vialle went off track, if he hadn't accelerated like he did, Deegan would have past him. Advantage? No one was close enough behind Deegan to pass him if he didn't accelerate up the side of the track. Anyone know when ET3 is back

  • @biggysmalls3626
    @biggysmalls3626 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Because softy boy is the golden child right now. For whatever reason, the AMA continues to look the other way every time silver spoon breaks the rules. Which is all the damn time.

    • @roddas26
      @roddas26 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Cry harder buddy 😂

    • @chrispbacon4480
      @chrispbacon4480 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Deegans have been cheating since he was a kid on 50's nothing has changed. You can bet Brian Deegan was up there pressuring the officials just like he intimidated the kid who tried to buy Deegans factory bike when he was racing amateurs.

  • @jpad58
    @jpad58 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1. While off course the rider may not accelerate in an unsafe manner.
    2. If a rider accelerates in an unsafe manner while off course or cuts part of the race course, the rider may be determined to have gained an advantage without gaining a position

    • @markbest5127
      @markbest5127 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And rule 2 doesn't mean shit for Vialle, because he knew no one was close enough.
      People act like these guys are obvious and can't hear another bike behind them?
      Give me a break.

  • @joeyharrell9817
    @joeyharrell9817 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s the same double standard as always. Been going on since the days of J Law and RV. Same as Hunter skipping the whoops twice while accelerating in the mud earlier this year, no penalty. On the other hand if Jason Anderson accelerates off track on a straight with no obstacle he’ll be docked a position. Douchgan did it in both motos and they turn a blind eye. Sexton did it the right way and was self penalized about 4 seconds but had he accelerated around the jump likely would have been docked a position.

    • @dormantmenace
      @dormantmenace 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didn't do the exact same thing. Vial was full throttle along side almost the entire roller section. To keep deegan of all people from passing. Deegan has no position to gain. Nor was kirltchen anywhere near close enough. Or he would of passed deegan.

    • @Trippyhippy0420
      @Trippyhippy0420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      keep crying hahah

    • @st25at
      @st25at 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What double standards are you talking about? The one where Deegan claims to be a victim and gets away with it and Tom doesn’t. Deegan didn’t get docked what are you sulking about? Why do nut jobs like you always bring a Lawrence into any issue??? Why are you soooo jealous?

  • @Malcolm_Blake
    @Malcolm_Blake 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    watching the live coverage i didn't realize this thing 1:40 was a massive dragons back! hahaha ...

  • @ReynHarpole
    @ReynHarpole 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Vialle accelerated hard off track and bypassed multiple obstacles. Deeg did neither of those things. They made the right call

    • @Kromer4g63
      @Kromer4g63 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. He went hard past full flow section

  • @jamesadams2334
    @jamesadams2334 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Deegan lost ground while off track and Vialle gained ground. Simple! If Deegan had stayed in the gas the entire time, he would have gained ground, but he knew he was off track and actually lost ground instead of maintaining. Mitch........stop whining and hire faster guys!

  • @MrMcGuck
    @MrMcGuck 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When your team is on injured reserves the majority of the year you gotta steal a win from somewhere

    • @michaelhoward7652
      @michaelhoward7652 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly ,Mitch should think about his problems not about others ,out of all of his 250 riders how many are on the track?

  • @dustinhall1923
    @dustinhall1923 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe they did a good job with the calls this time. Deegan was in a totally different part of the track. Got on the gas to get to a safe speed stood straight up got on the track and went back to racing. Tom went off and full roost the entire time to keep the same/better time. I’m not a Deegan fanboy. I’d rather see Tom win than Deegan. Everyone has their own opinion. The times we are currently in though, we will always will have someone unhappy.

  • @ScottAllenSparks
    @ScottAllenSparks 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Funny how people seemed to not care when deegan was the only one penalized in Birmingham supercross for doing what 3 others did at the exact same time that night. 🤔 The moto gods(ama) repaid deegan back for it. Deegan went 1-1. Move on.

  • @Trippyhippy0420
    @Trippyhippy0420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    All the Deegan haters are funny as fuck was you watching the same race lmao

    • @chrispbacon4480
      @chrispbacon4480 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Deegans have always been cheats ever since he was a kid on 50's they were hotting up the motor against the rules. Then a couple of years ago they ruined a kids career when he tried to claim the full race spec bike deegan was riding against others on standard bikes. There cheating knows no bounds.

    • @ericthompson3551
      @ericthompson3551 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not only did I watch that moto , I’ve watched every moto Deegans been in . And the kid is treated like royalty.

  • @robertdelinsky7247
    @robertdelinsky7247 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Degan went off 3 times u could c the roost comin off his tire almost hit course worker his and toms the same call them both or neither

  • @131601
    @131601 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t think Deegan should get docked for that, but I do think Vialle might have got screwed !

    • @jamesadams2334
      @jamesadams2334 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Vialle gained ground, Deegan let off, looked back and lost ground. Good call according to the rule book.

  • @stevekabel2016
    @stevekabel2016 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It cracks me up that people deny what they see based on who they like..

    • @st25at
      @st25at 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. It’s called mental filtering. If it was Jett or Hunter everyone would be screaming saying they should be penalised and the AMA are protecting them,yet when it is Deegan it is totally fine and nothing to see. Wonder if the same people will claim the AMA are protecting Deegan now and stop sooking.

  • @petemcpeterson6205
    @petemcpeterson6205 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Yeah this is a complete double standard. Deeg went off the track a total of 3 times and should be penalized.

    • @dormantmenace
      @dormantmenace 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He didn't do the exact same thing. Vial was full throttle along side almost the entire roller section. To keep deegan of all people from passing. Deegan has no position to gain. Nor was kirltchen anywhere near close enough. Or he would of passed deegan.

    • @BenWilson24
      @BenWilson24 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dormantmenace I'd agree if they were talking about first Moto, but the moto that was held up was Moto 2, where he went off and then gassed it to huck the jump when he came back on. Everyone keeps looking at the first Moto when that's not the one that held up the results

    • @bradallen936
      @bradallen936 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its stupid anyway if they are not gaining position and not being dangerous around anybody who the freak cares and haiden got screwed in supercross and vialle did same thing and he didnt get nothin so they all are even so everybody quit crying like a bunch a babies its frkn motocross who wants to win over somebody getn penalized over somethin that stupid that what this worlds turned into a bunch a crybaby bitches…..😡

    • @yallnutz4954
      @yallnutz4954 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Need some tissue

  • @jasonhenderson8604
    @jasonhenderson8604 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AMA just had to wait for Brian's cheque to clear before they made their decision

  • @BadandBoochii
    @BadandBoochii 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    He clearly accelerated 3 times roost flied so Deegan should be docked a position

    • @Trippyhippy0420
      @Trippyhippy0420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you ever watched a race or seen a bike irlthey have soo much power roost comes up at slow speeds keep crying hahah

    • @BenWilson24
      @BenWilson24 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@Trippyhippy0420I'd love to see an example of roosting without opening up the throttle... The reason there is roost is because the tire is being forced by the engine to turn faster than the travel speed... Meaning the engine is being told to go faster

    • @BadandBoochii
      @BadandBoochii 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Trippyhippy0420 lay off the acid maybe then u can discern the difference between crying and stating a fact . By power u actually mean torque , u must be high to watch that and think that was slow speed. Stop riding Deegan Dick 🤣🤣🤣

    • @reese3407
      @reese3407 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No penalties required

  • @Demstaal
    @Demstaal 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Deegan should be docked as well from the looks of it ! Give me a break !

    • @SpaceRanger187
      @SpaceRanger187 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No.. Deegan has more subs and thats all that matters these days

    • @datapusher-
      @datapusher- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, there was no advantage gained. Cope.

    • @Trippyhippy0420
      @Trippyhippy0420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SpaceRanger187 keep crying hahah

    • @Trippyhippy0420
      @Trippyhippy0420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      keep crying hahah

    • @BenWilson24
      @BenWilson24 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@datapusher- one of the main motivations behind the rule is safety off the track, at least according to the AMA during SX this year, so the advantage piece shouldn't matter. Also, if you only look at an advantage as being time gained, that's a slippery slope. Going off the track can't be inconsequential. If someone goes off and just maintains pace so they don't gain or lose time while going around the obstacles, they just saved energy, picked up momentum, and reduced risk

  • @didickcheeseburger
    @didickcheeseburger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i personally dont think either of them shouldve received a penalty but i dont like different standards applied to each individual situation. the fair thing to do is penalize neither or penalize both

  • @dormantmenace
    @dormantmenace 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He didn't do the exact same thing. Vial was full throttle along side almost the entire roller section. To keep deegan of all people from passing. Deegan has no position to gain. Nor was kirltchen anywhere near close enough. Or he would of passed deegan.

  • @davidjessee7701
    @davidjessee7701 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why wasn’t Haiden punished??? What is this ? 3rd grade??
    He wasn’t penalized because he didn’t gain an advantage, he did slow, he looked back then took off back onto the track…..
    On the other hand, Tom went off track , never slowed down, never looked back , kept it pinned the whole time… there was a difference between Tom and Haiden….

  • @mikemclean7779
    @mikemclean7779 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The rules state that you cannot gaine an advantage and you must reenter the track at the earliest safe point. Not accelerate down a pit road to be able to hit the upcoming double.

  • @ericthompson3551
    @ericthompson3551 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deegan can do no wrong in the eyes of the AMA. And they will protect him.

  • @davessparetime83
    @davessparetime83 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The question is why was Tom Vialle penalized? If he passed riders while off track then he should be penalized if he didn't gain position then he shouldn't be penalized. Deegan never gained position advantage. He had to keep some speed or he wouldn't be able to get back up the side of the track on the last lap.

  • @eviltechracing
    @eviltechracing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's because his dad is Brian Deegan

  • @chrissmith7742
    @chrissmith7742 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Last name has alot to do with it

  • @bobbymahoney166
    @bobbymahoney166 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deegans was Brake roost!

  • @tomesguerra5495
    @tomesguerra5495 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mitch is jealous! Because he picks riders that crash a lot! Like masterfool!

  • @justuandmebb
    @justuandmebb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No matter what our opinion is as spectators, it’s the ama with the final word and our opinion isn’t worth a plug nickel to them

    • @markyontz9119
      @markyontz9119 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know if Deegan deserves a penalty or not. BUT ..... There is one thing I'm begining to beleive, that I'm not sure I hear anyone mention -- I beleive the AMA heartily tries to avoid placing a penalty on someone when it would effect who wins the race/moto. Just as an example: Vialle's penalty didn't effect the outcome of the moto/race, Deegan's would have. Seems like I remember in the past, an SX overall race winner violating a fuel rule but the AMA didn't penalize them. They don't want their penalty to effect the outcome of the race, which is very unjust. If someone broke a rule, apply the appropriate penalty and let the chips fall where they may. That is just, and that would be the AMA carrying out their responsibilities correctly.

  • @dshow1658
    @dshow1658 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They both were on the gas and jumps back on the track . AMA is never consistent.

  • @thomaskelly6164
    @thomaskelly6164 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dee gab the ama picking favorites again they should have docked him one position again the ama changes the rules for other people.the ama is done

  • @jamesvengren5316
    @jamesvengren5316 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Deegan checked up gained no ground on kitchen there positions were the same that’s why no penalty sounds to me like people are bias wanting kitchen not Dugan to win but Dugan is just that much better and it showed so all you haters should just mind your own bizz

  • @stevegarwood1382
    @stevegarwood1382 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Deegan did accelerate though!!!

  • @dynamite6507
    @dynamite6507 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deegan didnt gain advatage and could re enter track. Vialle on the other hand could have entered right back in but skipped 3 whoops lol and was pulling away from ther rider lol. Deegan did nothing wrong here

  • @darrelbrowning
    @darrelbrowning 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeha mitch iam with you wy wasn't he but we all know wy

  • @404allowed
    @404allowed 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Give Vialle back his points.

    • @jamesadams2334
      @jamesadams2334 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why? He didn't follow the rules.

    • @michaelhoward7652
      @michaelhoward7652 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Call the AMA I'm sure they will listen or the care line .

  • @isisbujon-ct2zw
    @isisbujon-ct2zw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Because is french ...

  • @dynamite6507
    @dynamite6507 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vialle could have re entered deegan couldnt plain and simple nothing about advantages

  • @christomsett1819
    @christomsett1819 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vialle didn't shut off when he went off track.
    Haiden clearly did.

    • @tristanwwsd
      @tristanwwsd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haiden did not clearly shut off when he was riding outside the track. About 6 times you can see roost coming off his back tire.

  • @brunostudley2191
    @brunostudley2191 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He didn’t gain any advantage so why penalise him. Deegan did briefly check up but neither riders deserved a penalty

  • @jraddthomp270
    @jraddthomp270 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t think vialle should be docked just on the fact Deegan passed him anyways

  • @mikeneumann4660
    @mikeneumann4660 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t like riders being penalized accidentally running off the track. What the fuck do you want them to do?

    • @BenWilson24
      @BenWilson24 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think they should be penalized simply for the fact that they went off, but going off the track can't be inconsequential either. If someone goes off and goes just fast enough to not lose or gain time, they just saved energy, gained momentum, and reduced risk by going around the obstacles everyone else endured. The riders need to slow down or there should be a penalty. There is also a safety concern with people ripping trackside, so they need to slow down for that reason too - same reason racecar drivers have to slow down in the pits

  • @Miasdaddy7
    @Miasdaddy7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They both went off the track and didn’t gain any position from it so Tom shouldn’t have been penalized in the at all either. It sounds like someone in the AMA doesn’t like Tom for some reason.