still not working tho? any ways to see your settings? tried with unified orders, toggle auto attack to never. made it work last night but today it wont work idk why
Fun fact: even thought blight stone and desolator no longer stack (deso armor takes priority) the debuff of -0 armor counts for veno lol. Blight stone+ orb of corrosion+ orb of venom gets you to 7 debuffs at level 6.
@@santilanaknows5308 >.> That's why you build ags >.> Early game it's just extra DPS. I can 1v1 pudge with this setup early on and 1 gale means 5 debuffs with wards, blight, orb. Later on it becomes hilarious but early I'm talking about what stacks. Shivas Parisma is dream but stacking some cheap shit early gets easy kills.
7:10 Pango's shard no longer has a dispell as nerfed early last year so gale with shard does nothing to pango in shard right now. It can still stun if pango uses his ulti but he can roll as he wants to.
I thought it was skill based debuffs. All debuffs coming from Veno count? I'm just wondering if there are any heroes like old AA that give you temporary effects on hit (I just woke up and can't think of any buffs that give you effects on hit).
I struggle surviving with veno after my Aghanims. Any advice? I see you went ghost scepter but I feel a force staff would be good but wasted. I would delay my damage so much and upgrading it with dragon lance makes no sense since veno wards still need to be somewhat close. Any advice? I tried teaming up with mates that play snap, Pudge, oracle which can get me out of those situations. I deal tons of damage, get lots of kills, keep enemies engaged and try to kite
Just get a Blink later on and play around enemy spell cooldown. If they already engage/use their big nukes or CCs, then you jump in and straight-up slaughter a key target. Shiva is good as 2nd item for both survivability and damage, but always remember that you are still squishy as hell, so hide and play as the counter-initiation that punishes enemy for not targeting you. It's the same reason why he keeps taking all stats in the videos instead of leveling Gale, you need them for both damage and survival. Extra attack range from Lance/Pike alone is fine since your range will match the wards (Veno innately has less attack range than Plague Wards), but any other extra source of extra attack range and they will mismatch again (mainly Grove Bow). Lastly, Veno deals so much damage that as long as you can isolate fights, there is no need to invest too much in survival since you just kill most targets before they can meaningfully react (even tanky cores like Timber and Medu). Therefore, rather than saves like Pudge or Oracle, I find more success with teammates that play supports like Disruptor and Jakiro or initiators like SK, Enig, and Magnus - anyone that can deter the enemy from grouping up or are capable of splitting teamfights apart and give you the chance to pick your fight freely and kill each target one by one.
@xenotyphon yeah..been playing the same build... this hero needs a heart and a skadi at some point to stay relevant. Fortunately his farming speeds pretty good and you can get them pretty quickly after agh, shiva. Trading a bit of early damage for some survivability doesn't really matter, because this heroes damage is so high that you still demolish enemies even with only a shiva for debuffs.
@Arkhs Heart is good for sustained fights, but if you need to survive bursts, consider getting Bloodstone and treat it as Satanic. Having Soul Booster as a component is no joke for boosting survivability and Veno's massive damage output gives tons of healing.
@xenotyphon yeah that's true. Its a shame the wards don't give the spell lifesteal though so you can get some sustain off if you get stunned before casting any spells. Like yeah you can build bkb but I resent giving up anymore debuff item slots to survival items haha. That and the damage bonus from str is also reflected in septic shock. I'll give it a go though and see how it goes.
Doesn't scale well on anything but damage. CD only reduces to 19 at max level, MS slow doesn't change, and more damage makes it easier to deny someone affected by it. Poison Sting and Plague Ward are better for laning and gain more from investments.
Why rush aghs in this patch suddenly, when it was the same as last patch. Now you get half of the aghs for free, so I feel like getting some more other items makes more sense. Then you can have more debuffs and base dmg when you buy aghs after.
The Aghs are for the wards and it esentially doubles your own damage too. Is amazing for farming and killing. Early debuffs such as Orb of venom and maybe some survability like Veil are powerfull enough. You really do feel the powerspike Aghs gives.
Early : blood granade , orb of venom , blight stone. 1. Up arcane boots , urn of shadow, veil of discord. 2. Next can up spirit veassel for enemy heal or tanker or go up Shiva and aghanim ASAP . ITS items core venomancer. Optional : radiance, Orchid, or assault cuirass , or if u rich can build eye of scadi
Waga bro i love and respect you real talk but my favorite hero is finally strong and with these videos you're basically shining a spotlight on it that says GUT ME NEXT LETTER PATCH PLEASE bruh already struggle to pick this lad
Its 20% for each debuff, only in his kit veno already has 2, 3 with ulti. Throw in any Stones/orbs he bought and slap The 15% extra Magic damage from shivas activation on top. It absolutely rocks. If anything i'd say Theres windows do go shiva First before aghs depending on The game. @@vectoor91
@@sonitgorla4125 Shivas give all stats (which means more base damage for innate to mulitply), armor (survivability is always good, especially on Veno), and an active that grants 3 extra debuffs (+60% base damage on Veno, +30% on Plague Wards) while also shredding enemy magic res, reducing enemy sustain (which counters DoT), and further slow them (both MS and AS) which allows Veno to outfight and burst just about anyone while contributing to teamfights.
For everyone aksing how he controls the wards- watch till the end of the video!! 😅 /m
@@WagaGaming Thank you!
still not working tho? any ways to see your settings? tried with unified orders, toggle auto attack to never. made it work last night but today it wont work idk why
@@deprado479 i had the same strange behaviour
@@jetskisnowboardskidid you by any chance fix it or?
Wake up honey new 30k dps carry is up
30k mmr?
The Veno phone calls are insanely hilarious
LOL! when you're hexed your wards still appear and still shoot! that looks hilarious but is awesome haha
The veno donation voice is pretty great lol
Fun fact: even thought blight stone and desolator no longer stack (deso armor takes priority) the debuff of -0 armor counts for veno lol. Blight stone+ orb of corrosion+ orb of venom gets you to 7 debuffs at level 6.
the debuffs are useless without the aghs
@@santilanaknows5308 >.> That's why you build ags >.> Early game it's just extra DPS. I can 1v1 pudge with this setup early on and 1 gale means 5 debuffs with wards, blight, orb. Later on it becomes hilarious but early I'm talking about what stacks. Shivas Parisma is dream but stacking some cheap shit early gets easy kills.
@@santilanaknows5308 Its still a decent buff no? i mean just early spending blight stone and venom give you free 20% bonus dmg
Do you keybind your wards? Like group control? Thanks
Hey I got a question, how to you show all that ward locations in the mini map? Is there a way to do it in setting? or somehow manually?
7:10 Pango's shard no longer has a dispell as nerfed early last year so gale with shard does nothing to pango in shard right now. It can still stun if pango uses his ulti but he can roll as he wants to.
What do you think about shiva first for more useful components early game. And while veno has low base dmg
New meta now veno 😂
Mage slayer counted as debuff right
Yes
18:03
I thought it was skill based debuffs. All debuffs coming from Veno count?
I'm just wondering if there are any heroes like old AA that give you temporary effects on hit (I just woke up and can't think of any buffs that give you effects on hit).
how do u auto select all your veno wards?
Tab
unified summon hotkey
I struggle surviving with veno after my Aghanims. Any advice?
I see you went ghost scepter but I feel a force staff would be good but wasted. I would delay my damage so much and upgrading it with dragon lance makes no sense since veno wards still need to be somewhat close.
Any advice?
I tried teaming up with mates that play snap, Pudge, oracle which can get me out of those situations. I deal tons of damage, get lots of kills, keep enemies engaged and try to kite
Just get a Blink later on and play around enemy spell cooldown. If they already engage/use their big nukes or CCs, then you jump in and straight-up slaughter a key target. Shiva is good as 2nd item for both survivability and damage, but always remember that you are still squishy as hell, so hide and play as the counter-initiation that punishes enemy for not targeting you. It's the same reason why he keeps taking all stats in the videos instead of leveling Gale, you need them for both damage and survival. Extra attack range from Lance/Pike alone is fine since your range will match the wards (Veno innately has less attack range than Plague Wards), but any other extra source of extra attack range and they will mismatch again (mainly Grove Bow). Lastly, Veno deals so much damage that as long as you can isolate fights, there is no need to invest too much in survival since you just kill most targets before they can meaningfully react (even tanky cores like Timber and Medu). Therefore, rather than saves like Pudge or Oracle, I find more success with teammates that play supports like Disruptor and Jakiro or initiators like SK, Enig, and Magnus - anyone that can deter the enemy from grouping up or are capable of splitting teamfights apart and give you the chance to pick your fight freely and kill each target one by one.
Somebody invite this man into a reptile comunity. He clearly loves snake too much.
0:24 Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth PLAGUEIS the Wise? 😂
As long as i remember there are hotkey to select all unit. Its not that hard to control all unit to attack same target
Waga, u use Summons Auto-atk on Always or Standard ?
my Control + S not working on Self Wards (Bc Self Wards is not Auto SelectBox)... Only Control + H to Cancel and Hold Position
Hello sir new sub here.. 2 videos in and i am already in love with your plays. Gg sir
what settings do you use for laning to not auto attack? i always have to select all units
He explains at the end of the video /m
My veno wards hit everything around me. I cant control them like Waga does. I cant deny with them either. Am I missing something?
Either create control groups or use unified unit orders in the options
@@NikolaiHowley Thank you!
you really love this hero now xD
how do u make wards not attack everything in radius, is it just auto attack?
Towards the end he explains it
Always bring blood granade don't forget it.
nice gameplay ❤❤, i wonder how u play with him as a offlaner, honestly i wanted to play him as a carry but i failed,
veno is going to get nuclear nerfed
Absolutely destroyed a few unranked games with this. Got 90K damage in one!
I tried this and I got reported by my team at 1 minute time.😂
i want to ask, how do you control the snakes that they don't auto attack?
Go to settings and bind a key to “select all units” i set mine to 5 and my “select next target unit” to tab for single selections.
He explains at the end of the video /m
@@WagaGaming thank you so much
@@austingautier2730 much appreciated
I binded them all as you said. However, they still auto attack @@austingautier2730
That pango died many times if he bought shard.
well yes but not rly. Mobility wise this hero is atrocious
Same with survivability. Not being tanky while having to get up into enemy face to do damage is a HUGE detriment.
@xenotyphon yeah..been playing the same build... this hero needs a heart and a skadi at some point to stay relevant.
Fortunately his farming speeds pretty good and you can get them pretty quickly after agh, shiva. Trading a bit of early damage for some survivability doesn't really matter, because this heroes damage is so high that you still demolish enemies even with only a shiva for debuffs.
@Arkhs Heart is good for sustained fights, but if you need to survive bursts, consider getting Bloodstone and treat it as Satanic. Having Soul Booster as a component is no joke for boosting survivability and Veno's massive damage output gives tons of healing.
quick as venom
@xenotyphon yeah that's true. Its a shame the wards don't give the spell lifesteal though so you can get some sustain off if you get stunned before casting any spells. Like yeah you can build bkb but I resent giving up anymore debuff item slots to survival items haha.
That and the damage bonus from str is also reflected in septic shock.
I'll give it a go though and see how it goes.
how do i stop my wards from hitting the enemy creep wave all the time?
did u watch the video
Towards the end he explains it
Did u know u can jungle lvl 1 and if youre ganked plague them! 😅
How to make the wards not attack automatically when they come in range of the creeps?
Stop command I think (usually s-key)
they dont attack creeps by default, only if you target them
See 20:30 for a good explanation
literally in the video
@@stephen1130
Now my pos 5 account buying supports are gonna spam veno core again
Had this veno player last night won against it tho
Wardmancer
I cant win with this strat because my team mates hate on me so much. Im probably not good enough either. 😂
veno is cooked istg
can anyone tell me why does he not level up 1st skill"?only level 1 always.
Doesn't scale well on anything but damage. CD only reduces to 19 at max level, MS slow doesn't change, and more damage makes it easier to deny someone affected by it.
Poison Sting and Plague Ward are better for laning and gain more from investments.
how is he self casting plague wards onto himself without clicking on the hero? Doenst work for me
Press button twice to cast on yourself or with alt
Why rush aghs in this patch suddenly, when it was the same as last patch. Now you get half of the aghs for free, so I feel like getting some more other items makes more sense. Then you can have more debuffs and base dmg when you buy aghs after.
Witchbladr, venom and blightstone then ags u can stomp
The aghs is for the wards not for you. But it was good last patch, everyone was just wrong about it being bad and useless.
The Aghs are for the wards and it esentially doubles your own damage too. Is amazing for farming and killing. Early debuffs such as Orb of venom and maybe some survability like Veil are powerfull enough. You really do feel the powerspike Aghs gives.
@@Lordofrye have you seen veno winrate since people started going this build, it has gone straight to the gutter
@@bigandsmallstories8419 they nerfed it now - but there were a number of significant optimizations most were missing, like the hold attack trick.
Bro is milking it ☠️☠️☠️
bro stop it, every SEA server is playing veno
It is pity that Waga time to time have to listen this russian barbarians.
Early : blood granade , orb of venom , blight stone.
1. Up arcane boots , urn of shadow, veil of discord.
2. Next can up spirit veassel for enemy heal or tanker or go up Shiva and aghanim ASAP .
ITS items core venomancer.
Optional : radiance, Orchid, or assault cuirass , or if u rich can build eye of scadi
Waga bro, your ruining my games, my teamates dont know how to play veno =[ lol.
Bananamancer cancer is real, hope its patched out ASAP. horribly unfun to play against
how come it hasnt been patched out yet its so busted
Picking teams left to right is such a stupid concept
O russians here
Yeah, feels like they're everywhere, that bro's rage speech was good ngl
Waga bro i love and respect you real talk but my favorite hero is finally strong and with these videos you're basically shining a spotlight on it that says GUT ME NEXT LETTER PATCH PLEASE bruh
already struggle to pick this lad
i hate this dude keeps giving me trash players with his builds.
Damage is there but anything else? 😂 youre like sniper but even less mobility and survivability
Dmg while stunned, slow while stunned, if u die u kill the other person. U can scout with ward... There's so much.
I think aggs into shivas is a very useless item build, maybe there's something better after Aggs to be a little more useful
He gets 60% extra dmg plus all the survivability, it's insanely good.
Its 20% for each debuff, only in his kit veno already has 2, 3 with ulti. Throw in any Stones/orbs he bought and slap The 15% extra Magic damage from shivas activation on top. It absolutely rocks.
If anything i'd say Theres windows do go shiva First before aghs depending on The game. @@vectoor91
@@sonitgorla4125 Shivas give all stats (which means more base damage for innate to mulitply), armor (survivability is always good, especially on Veno), and an active that grants 3 extra debuffs (+60% base damage on Veno, +30% on Plague Wards) while also shredding enemy magic res, reducing enemy sustain (which counters DoT), and further slow them (both MS and AS) which allows Veno to outfight and burst just about anyone while contributing to teamfights.
Shiva is literally the Best item to have. It gives everything it needs. Why you Say there are better options?