She was not quite 15 at this performance but the elements that made her such a magical free skater were basically there. Maturity and experience took care of the rest. She's always been my favorite female skater, hard to believe she's 70 this year.
What kind of stupid would thumbs down Janet Lynn? Janet in my opinion, was one of the finest skaters to grace the ice. Now or then. The quality of her edges, her posture, the ease of movement. Sublime! Truly a joy to behold!
I just love her skating it was always so graceful, and beautiful. Also that layback spin at 3:40 she looks just like a ballerina on the ice, never seen anyone do it better.
I didn't see her skate, but I do remember Peggy's LP.I loved her Sapporo LP,even the famous fall.I got to see her judging a local competition in the spring of 1977.
Um, i am pretty sure that is the case with all Olympic rinks. If you look carefully at footage from the Olympic Games all you can see is the city and year on the walls. The advertisements are all for non Olympic competitions...
I remember her well. She went to my high school in Rockford, Il and had to get up early every day for practice. She was then very kind and somewhat shy. Her skating was excellent.
She was a couple grades in front of me at middle school. I remember they made a big deal and had us all in the halls and on the stairs after her Olympic performance. She was nice to everyone. I was always impressed with her skating. Thanks for showing this.
You must be a Rockford girl. I was a young child then, but I remember spending a long weekend at the Wagon Wheel, I don't no how, but my parents were friends with Peggy Flemings parents, who lived in California. I do remember Miss Fleming taking me skating around the rink, giving me skating lessons. This was back in 65 or 66 I believe.
I was in the 8th grade. My class was the last 9th grade, at Lincoln, before it became a middle school. I remember, being in the hallway, and everyone cheering. She seemed a little embarrassed, if I recall correctly, but that smile...always present. She was nice, to everyone, as you said.
14 years old and skates to "Prelude a l´apres midi d´un faune". This skate is so beautiful. A triple? A jump with one hand up in the air? Way ahead of time. I am just glad that I was little too young to have watched it live. I guess I would have loved her and had been angry with those judges. She deserved so much more, was robbed in many ways, but stand all above it with her smile, style and grace. Who needs points or a medal, when they will never reflect the beauty and skills of a blessed skater.
As far as I know, they changed the rules because of what happened. They did away with skating figure 8s. They realized that without that part of the competition Janet Lynn would have won. Ballet on ice is what it was really supposed to be about. It still is.
If a feather could wear a pair of skates … loved watching her skate then and still do. For me her skating was and still is the most delightfully beautiful, bar none … The delay in her jumps, it's as if time stops, really incredible.
She was my favorite figure skater, still is. Very stable, very graceful, very secure, even if she falls, unshakable beauty. Her jumps are quite high, to tell the truth, and very seamless. She's a fairy and an angel at the same time!
Janet was only 14 years old here. That must have been the minimum age to compete in the Olympics back then. The new age is 17 for the next Olympics. She always skated with such beauty and grace on top of being such a sweet person. She got better and better every year.
Walking right next to the the boards at the Olympics during a program, my goodness. I remember that happening when I competed at the state/regional level and it actually helped me to loosen up a bit. For a brief instant, my mind went somewhere else, which was helpful. Though, had I been competing at the Olympics and doing triples or quads (instead of doubles), I can imagine that could be quite distracting. Great performance by a young Janet!
Realmente parece un Hada 😍 un ser sobrenatural y lleno de gracia ... No como las de hoy que parecen robots. Parece mentira que hayan pasado más de cincuenta años de esta magnífica actuación, porq de verdad creo q hay figuras y movimientos que ella hace aquí como si fuera de otro mundo. Por cierto, q linda se ve la pista de hielo sin anuncios 😍 Tomar nota de eso 😉 mmm
What a great find! I think it's important to note the triple salchow in the program. Though under-rotated, it was a very rare thing for women to do any triples in the 1960s. She was definitely pushing the technical envelope of ladies skating in her day. The previous year (1967), she performed a triple toe loop in her senior debut, and the year after the olympics, she would do it again. After a fall on the triple toe loop during the 1971 nationals, her triple jumps disappeared from her competitive repertoire.
M D: Janet found out she had a wheat or gluten allergy which made made her horribly breathless and wheeze during her routines. That is why she quit skating as a pro. It may also be the reason she took the triples out of her competition skating.
So different from the total craziness of today’s skating competition. No quads, no constant under-the-breath commentary calling out every little infraction.
Boitano does it with the triple Lutz, hence its name “the Tano Lutz.” The Lutz is a difficult jump since it is launched off an outside edge without using the toe pick. Flinging the arm up above the head can interrupt the height of the jump but Boitano has it perfected. Lynn did it in a combination jump of a double loop and then a single axel, which starts as a forward jump. The loop is an inside edge jump, without using the toe pick, so the whole effect is still very impressive!
@@pilotgal6191 Thanks for the extra clarification. I guess I was thinking in general about how the recent trend has been to do the jumps with the arm over the head-- so many do it ( almost too much). You'll hear commentators referencing Boitano even if it's not the Lutz.
True, true! You’re absolutely right about that. When I saw this video last night, I had the same reaction you did. “Wow, she did the Tano move in 1968!” I had to go back and watch it again to see the jump she paired with this arm position. 🙂🙂🙂
я не пропускаю ни одного соревнования по фк женское одиночное,с удовольствием многое пересматриваю,этот прокат еле досмотрел,все ждал когда закончится,вот это уровень был в те далекие годы,как же далеко убежало современное катание,особенно команды Этери
Philip Alumbo I’m a classically trained musician, and to me it seems akin to taking the scales and other technical exercises out of playing an instrument. Having those skills, and the repetition involved in practising them is invaluable when you start to play the big stuff. And it’s progressive, as you master one thing, then harder things get added in. And scales and technical work always come first, and are always examined first. There’s a discipline that gets instilled in the process as well..you spend two or three hours a day focussed on technical work, and everything else flows on from that. That doesn’t necessarily apply to the occasional prodigy that comes along, but true prodigies are few and far between. It seems to me that people have just gotten lazy, and it shows. Even the best ballet dancers in prestigious companies attend classes of more than an hour everyday, going over their technique, it’s as important in skating as it is in any other artistic discipline.
Beautiful. Such simplicity. I always loved her. But her non-standing leg when she lands her jumps is very low. But still her jumps are very beautiful. In fact, that low non-standing leg in jump landings gives an incredible flow to her routine! Which is so, so different from today where landings are often heavy & laborous and too long and the skaters oftentimes drop their backs very low - especialluly the men. Very beautiful performance. I always loved her balletic style. And soft and humble personhood which exudes...
This is from the year my parents graduated from high school, so well before my time. It is fascinating to watch her. Her spins travel a lot, and seemed to have very few rotations. I'm not sure they meet today's standards, other than that scratch spin at the end, which was beautiful. That being said, her jumps were INCREDIBLE!
if janet hadnt had to spend 6 hrs a day on figures and she had the advantages of todays skaters she would probably still be on top because of the fact she knows instinctively how to move on the ice and create an entire play without words un like almost every skater since her can do
Janet Lynn was perhaps not the most gifted technically, but I don't know the sport. if you only focus on how you feel watching her skate, she is the greatest of all time, and every skater since only chases the ghost of trying to replicate what she did - bringing us what heaven must be like.
maseratic boychik - Was he Carol Heiss's coach also? - I noted she did AXELS in both directions... other than John Curry, Janet and Carol are the only skaters I can recall excelling in both directions- As you note, an INCREDIBLE feat and mastery of the sport!
As much as I love Janet's skating, I don't know if I would go that far, but you're right about her having a special quality, and I like what you wrote. Also, it was Janet's performances at US Nationals that were her best.
Ну о-о-очень красиво! Просто великолепно! Завораживающе легко и как бы играючи откатала программу. Удивили две вещи: 1968 год и почему такие низкие оценки?
One judge gave her a 5.3 for artistic impression. The lowest mark should have been 5.8, and she didn't even get one of those this time. Well, I guess she made a few little mistakes and perhaps that subtracts from artistic impression? The way she held her body, moved/held her hands, wrists and arms, the extension on her free leg, it was all so beautiful. She looks like she's floating in the beginning of her program. Janet would become the definition of the modern style in women's skating, and she inspired, was copied and admired by many who came after her. I didn't see a female skater who was as artistic, musical, and had such aesthetically beautiful form on the ice until Oksana Baiul, over 25 years later. Janet and I are the same age, so it was was really special for me growing up, seeing a skater with her gifts emerge. I remember how happy I was when, after not winning an Olympic gold medal because of her figures, she became the highest-paid professional female athlete of her time. Although I never met Janet, my connection to her got a little bizarre, because I skated in a show with the Olympic gold medalist who trounced Janet, and I know what she got paid -- wasn't much, although it was about eight times as much as I made in the chorus line. The experience was special though.
@@floskate The Google algorithm is throwing a bunch of your skating videos at me, and with them so many memories come up. Hey, I'm retired, going blind reading a thousand pages a day about Trump, so this is a nice break. I posted a long comment about the Trixi/Janet rivalry under a Trixi video about her doing figures. But since you mentioned the show... Yes, kitsch was the operative word for HOI (Holiday on Ice) International shows in the '70s. Here's a clip (link below) of my show from 1974, a few years before I was in the show as a line skater. They filmed the show when the production was new, so the costumes looked the best. Again, unfortunately, I was not there. So this (link below) was the Apple Girl number, depicting something from a speakeasy during the Chicago prohibition years, where girls sold apples instead of their bodies, or god knows what. I'm highlighting this link for two reasons. You have to look hard to see it, but the girls are holding an apple, and at one point they throw it into the audience. I think the apples in their basket weren't real, except they had this one real apple to fling at the audience, to people in the first few rows. They didn't toss them at children, but tried to pick a male who looked like he would be able to catch an apple. The funny and fun part of this was few people in the audience were prepared to have an apple thrown at them, no matter how many preparatory moves a girl made to signal that she was going to throw one. The apples would thud on people's chests, fall on the floor, or even hit them in the head. I think only about half were actually caught. I was a waiter in this number (you can see a couple guys with an apron and red vest on in the background), so after my little part of serving drinks to couples in fancy dress (not seen in this video clip), I could stand back and watch the apple girls throw their apples at unsuspecting audience members. For skaters skating the show, we enjoyed the show on our own terms, watching other skaters slip, looking at people in the audience (although it was very dark in some arenas and not easy to see them well, except the first row, because the spotlights would show on them at times), sometimes pulling pranks. During a performance, a Czech skater stuck his skate out and tripped me once, and I stumbled into my entrance in that number, barely catching my balance. I was mad. He got fined for that. At one point in a number, all the guys in the show were supposed to skate up and form a double line, taking our top hats off and bowing, so that a feather-clad soloist could make her entrance prancing down between us. I caught my edge on the stop and went sliding out on my back, so that I was in front of this soloist, as she kind of had to prance around me. The guys in the line were laughing hysterically, the soloist was laughing, and the audience went wild. But oh, back to this clip. This was the same waiter costume I had on when Alex the hotheaded Russian hauled off and slugged me in the face on the ice behind the curtain and I bled like a fountain all over my costume. They should have preserved it and put it behind glass somewhere. He got fined $50 for "unprofessional conduct" and I was fined $15 for "fooling around." I won't go into the whole story, but why did he slug me? I took his hat. th-cam.com/video/5GbceW8ANgM/w-d-xo.html
This was 1968, she was not yet a top skater. Her figures were poor. Figures counted for 60% of the final mark. Here she was way behind after figures. Plus the judges held back the top marks in the freeskate for the topmost skaters.
@@waynehentley4332 Good point about the marks being held back for the freeskate, which was another thing besides figures themselves (that they were included at all) that I didn't like about figures and the grading system.
Am enjoying these gems. Janet's time was four years later & had she mastered the school figures maybe she would've been relaxed going into the final. Who knows? Recall her expressing her shock when she fell. She says she just didn't see that coming. Remember Bill Buckner & the unfortunate error in fielding Mookie Wilson's ground ball in the World Series back in 1986? He must've fielded a hundred screaming ground balls to 1st up to 1986. He had to have been shocked the ball went right through. Unlike Buckner though, Janet wouldn't have a second chance.
Thank you for posting this. It's interesting to see how ladies figure skating has changed. What was with those people walking past in the beginning? Where were they going? For snacks??
This looks better than Peggy Fleming's free skate. The movement seems more free and natural and the jumps look better. I would love to know why this got much lower marks? Fleming's free skate had several errors and did not have this level of content.
You know what? I can't disagree with you. Although Janet made the mistake of under-rotating and two-footing her triple Salchow, and she puts her foot down on the last d. Axel, and one other stumble, and a few very minor mistakes -- even with all that, her skating is just so beautiful, and quite possibly better than Fleming's performance. You can watch Janet's better performances a dozen times in a row, or even a slightly flawed one like this, and still enjoy them each time. But here are the other crazy factors where it gets weird. Fleming was a really good skater, was first after figures, and Janet's compulsory figures put her in 14th place, which even if she got all 6.0s in the free skate would not have put her in the medals at this Olympics. But the real answer to your main question is probably that skating was political, more so then than now, I think, and sometimes the judging was biased. Widespread in the skating community of each country, there was even a prejudice against new skaters or upstarts, in favor of seasoned skaters who had done well in the past. There was an unspoken consensus, even among foreign judges probably, that if Peggy Fleming skated reasonably well and her figures were good (she was first in those), and other skaters were not flawless, she deserved to win. There's a psychological component to judging. If the judges were seeing all these skaters for the first time, coming into a competition with no preconceptions about how they feel about a skater, or what they saw in past performances, they would judge more fairly and Janet would have gotten higher marks. Judges are human and they get excited too. Some of them might be so hyped up (it's the Olympics!), they don't even see the incredible beauty of Janet Lynn's skating, because she's a newcomer. Instead, they are worried about making the "right" decision, in terms of what pleases their peers, or what keeps them in the best standing with the judging association (national or world), or the Olympic Committee, or the figure skating association. They also may think things like, "Unless she's in a car crash or something, Janet is going to probably win gold at the next Olympics, if she can buckle down and improve her all-important f-ing compulsory figures." There's a whole backstory to the plane crash, Peggy Fleming rising out of the ashes, and Peggy was an innovative and very special skater in her own right. If it's any consolation, and to Peggy's credit, she has admitted countless times that the '68 Olympics wasn't her best performance, or even close to it. However, she was just glad she did well in figures, and got through the free without too many mistakes or melting down completely, and that any challengers made mistakes, so it wasn't close. She was the undisputed winner. Going into the Olympics, the hype and pressure for Peggy must have been enormous. Her parents were not rich, and she loved skating, but didn't like competing, so she was just itching to make some money back, and go pro, wear that ice queen crown. Ever since Sonja Henie won the Olympics and became a HUGE movie star, skating was not all just about the skating. It was about glamour. It was about popularizing winter sports and the people in them. It was about dreams. A lot of people wanted Fleming to win, because Carol Heiss had aged out as the American ice queen, but she had made a nice small splash as ice queen. With Tenley Albright, only second in the Olympics, that loser just wanted to go to school and become a surgeon. What a bore! (I'm being sarcastic). There wasn't going to be a lot of marketing opportunities or movie making in her skating future. But with Peggy Fleming, the sky was the limit. She was thin, no beefy thighs propelling her jumps a yard off the ice, but so balletic, and with a beautiful face. She was an ice ballerina with excellent skating skills, and also marketable as a sex symbol. She was the jackpot. Peggy would inspire thousands of girls to take up skating. So the real crisis happened at the next Winter Olympics, when in my mind finally they at least found out something had to be done about compulsory figures, and then it took them 20 years to do what should have been done with them in 1932, get rid of them. Janet had her day, becoming the highest paid women's athlete in decades, as of 1973. Janet was shy, a lovely person, a committed Christian, and her faith probably helped her when she lost the Olympics to an Austrian woman with satanically good compulsory figures. No, don't cry for Janet Lynn.
One more thing, Peggy Fleming had a history of skating fine performances for four years before the 1968 Olympics, including two World gold medals in the preceding two years. Anyway, here's a link to Janet coming in 2nd place in the free in the 1970 Worlds, in one of her top two or three amateur performances probably. Gaby Seyfert (East Germany) won the free program, by flying through it with very high jumps. It wasn't at the artistic level of Janet though. Janet was 6th overall, because of her infernal compulsory figures. th-cam.com/video/CJy10jNvvCs/w-d-xo.html
@@Timzart7 Peggy was going to win regardless because she was far ahead in figures. But I agree the feeling was that she should be first based on her mature and balletic interpretation.
@@skatefan9495 My understanding of it was that Peggy really was that much better overall than everyone else in the field. I would have loved to have seen her figures, because Peggy apparently wiped the floor with everyone in that portion of the competition. And since figures accounted for 60% of the score at the time, she was nearly unbeatable.
It actually is. Peggy was a master of school figures and probably had won before she even skated. This is a program worth watching many years later, while Peggy's was not one of her best. This is nothing against Peggy, who is a legend and the first truly artistic skater, in my opinion.
Peggy may have won gold, but Janet won everyones' hearts. Watch the arms. Are they graceful and expressive, or do they just protrude from the body like two salamis? The only skater to come close to Janet's artistry (IMHO) was Oksana Baiul. They felt the music, they interpreted it, they weren't intent on the next triple at the expense of everything in between.
When she jumps in the air, she doesn’t start rotating until she’s completely off the ice. Most skaters start their rotation as they are launching in the air. It’s a rare talent and she does it beautifully.
I know that she was praised like hell for her artistry, but in this competition I prefer both Gaby Seifert and Hana Maskova over her... Maybe she just developed it when she was older...
She's only 15 here. Maskova and Seyfert were both much more seasoned competitors. If you want to see Janet at her artistic best then watch 1971 world's freeskate.
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Janet Lynn with a bunny-hop st the start of this Olympic program ! Her spirals and split jumps were lackluster as compared to Sasha Cohen . Also fascinating to see no kiss and cry area. When janet comes ofc yhe ice, see the skaters sitting rink side waiting to skate ! The skating times have changed ! (Not sure if it for the better ).
Different time. Very business like atmosphere. Prob no one could forsee what the sport has evolved into. Honestly from cerebral school figures (60%) to a cumulative action packed model. Talk about 180°. Like when track & field evolved from ash & cinder to all weather & hand timing in tenths of a second to Swiss timing in hundredths of a second. Big sea change. All sports evolve & some times it's puzzling to disappointing.
I thought the debut was in the mid 50's? Maybe, pre international? Janet Lynn was filmed and picked up by the Windsor station CKLW and Jehovah's witnesses wanted to disfellowship as skating under the name of a country was too political, yet, Janet Lynn was not one of Jehovah's witnesses. Hmmm...maybe there are earlier versions pre international? Janet Lynn was banned from skating professionally and non-professionally in Canada as signed by the Queen of England. After all, it was showing one's legs was not shall I say, ladylike?
She was not quite 15 at this performance but the elements that made her such a magical free skater were basically there. Maturity and experience took care of the rest. She's always been my favorite female skater, hard to believe she's 70 this year.
What kind of stupid would thumbs down Janet Lynn? Janet in my opinion, was one of the finest skaters to grace the ice. Now or then. The quality of her edges, her posture, the ease of movement. Sublime! Truly a joy to behold!
I just love her skating it was always so graceful, and beautiful. Also that layback spin at 3:40 she looks just like a ballerina on the ice, never seen anyone do it better.
So strong, so many jumps all through the program but so beautifully smooth and clean as well. She was wonderful here.
I didn't see her skate, but I do remember Peggy's LP.I loved her Sapporo LP,even the famous fall.I got to see her judging a local competition in the spring of 1977.
Such maturity and grace at such a young age! It is no wonder that she is considered possibly the finest female figure skater of all time!
Wow look at that. An olympic ice rink with no advertisements plastered across the wall.
Um, i am pretty sure that is the case with all Olympic rinks. If you look carefully at footage from the Olympic Games all you can see is the city and year on the walls. The advertisements are all for non Olympic competitions...
I remember her well. She went to my high school in Rockford, Il and had to get up early every day for practice. She was then very kind and somewhat shy. Her skating was excellent.
Wow, lucky you!
That's how I remember her at Lincoln; a little shy, but never without her smile. Sshhh...I went to the other high school. LOL
Good for all of you for knowing her then
She was a couple grades in front of me at middle school. I remember they made a big deal and had us all in the halls and on the stairs after her Olympic performance. She was nice to everyone. I was always impressed with her skating. Thanks for showing this.
You must be a Rockford girl. I was a young child then, but I remember spending a long weekend at the Wagon Wheel, I don't no how, but my parents were friends with Peggy Flemings parents, who lived in California. I do remember Miss Fleming taking me skating around the rink, giving me skating lessons. This was back in 65 or 66 I believe.
@@frankkolton1780 Raised in Rockford and lived there for years. It was quite a big deal for the town.
I was in the 8th grade. My class was the last 9th grade, at Lincoln, before it became a middle school. I remember, being in the hallway, and everyone cheering. She seemed a little embarrassed, if I recall correctly, but that smile...always present. She was nice, to everyone, as you said.
14 years old and skates to "Prelude a l´apres midi d´un faune". This skate is so beautiful. A triple? A jump with one hand up in the air? Way ahead of time. I am just glad that I was little too young to have watched it live. I guess I would have loved her and had been angry with those judges. She deserved so much more, was robbed in many ways, but stand all above it with her smile, style and grace. Who needs points or a medal, when they will never reflect the beauty and skills of a blessed skater.
A 53 and a couple of 54s in what I think they call the program scores? Olympic judging politics rears it's ugly head.
As far as I know, they changed the rules because of what happened. They did away with skating figure 8s. They realized that without that part of the competition Janet Lynn would have won. Ballet on ice is what it was really supposed to be about. It still is.
If a feather could wear a pair of skates … loved watching her skate then and still do. For me her skating was and still is the most delightfully beautiful, bar none … The delay in her jumps, it's as if time stops, really incredible.
Your writing expresses it well. Blessings... Stay healthy physically and financially. 👍
@@meredithheadquist6657 Thank you how nice, same to you
She looks like a little ballerina on a cake, perfection at it's best, just don't see skating like this anymore!
Exactly my thoughts..👍🏼
She was my favorite figure skater, still is. Very stable, very graceful, very secure, even if she falls, unshakable beauty. Her jumps are quite high, to tell the truth, and very seamless. She's a fairy and an angel at the same time!
I love how her jumps just come out of nowhere. Seamless.
Janet was only 14 years old here. That must have been the minimum age to compete in the Olympics back then. The new age is 17 for the next Olympics. She always skated with such beauty and grace on top of being such a sweet person. She got better and better every year.
I don't skate but you could tell she was unique and one of a kind.
Loving the triple salchow attempt, plus the double sals in both directions. And that layback was as exquisite in '68 as it was in '73 and beyond.
no one will touch Peggy Fleming lay back spin nobody did or does it as good as Peggy Fleming
officialmelpeachey - are you kidding?, even as much as I dislike him, Adam Rippon's put Peggy's to shame! as did Dorothy's!
Beautiful!
Watching this 50 years ago,turned me on to figure skating. What a talent she was and is of course a kind great human being. Thank you for the post
The most beautiful skater. Heavenly beauty!
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Her dancing form is excellent! Love the pink. Wonderful performance!
Yes. A Ballerina! Classic.
How lovely to not have TV announcers talking over the performance.
That were a different time
Today, the audience needs to be told what jumps are being performed.
My favorite i could watch her all day
She jumped both ways 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
A Skater's Skater..she is special
Walking right next to the the boards at the Olympics during a program, my goodness. I remember that happening when I competed at the state/regional level and it actually helped me to loosen up a bit. For a brief instant, my mind went somewhere else, which was helpful. Though, had I been competing at the Olympics and doing triples or quads (instead of doubles), I can imagine that could be quite distracting. Great performance by a young Janet!
Gah!!!! I was wondering about that too! So rude!
What a find!! ❤️
Realmente parece un Hada 😍 un ser sobrenatural y lleno de gracia ... No como las de hoy que parecen robots.
Parece mentira que hayan pasado más de cincuenta años de esta magnífica actuación, porq de verdad creo q hay figuras y movimientos que ella hace aquí como si fuera de otro mundo.
Por cierto, q linda se ve la pista de hielo sin anuncios 😍
Tomar nota de eso 😉 mmm
Wonderful skating of young Janet Lynn! Thaks for posting this!
What a great find! I think it's important to note the triple salchow in the program. Though under-rotated, it was a very rare thing for women to do any triples in the 1960s. She was definitely pushing the technical envelope of ladies skating in her day. The previous year (1967), she performed a triple toe loop in her senior debut, and the year after the olympics, she would do it again. After a fall on the triple toe loop during the 1971 nationals, her triple jumps disappeared from her competitive repertoire.
M D...oh my god, md...i think we might be kindred spirits! Cheers!
M D: Janet found out she had a wheat or gluten allergy which made made her horribly breathless and wheeze during her routines. That is why she quit skating as a pro. It may also be the reason she took the triples out of her competition skating.
thanks so much for ur knowledge. what a shame she got discouraved after falling
@@ebriggs3498 wow. what a shame. there is so much gluten free now. thanks for comment
So different from the total craziness of today’s skating competition. No quads, no constant under-the-breath commentary calling out every little infraction.
Times have changed! Get over it!
why? when skating was better then@@waynehentley4332
Note the arm over the head at around 1:48, nearly 50 years before everyone started doing it.
I was thinking the same thing-- and Brian Boitano gets credit for it.
Boitano does it with the triple Lutz, hence its name “the Tano Lutz.” The Lutz is a difficult jump since it is launched off an outside edge without using the toe pick. Flinging the arm up above the head can interrupt the height of the jump but Boitano has it perfected.
Lynn did it in a combination jump of a double loop and then a single axel, which starts as a forward jump. The loop is an inside edge jump, without using the toe pick, so the whole effect is still very impressive!
@@pilotgal6191 Thanks for the extra clarification. I guess I was thinking in general about how the recent trend has been to do the jumps with the arm over the head-- so many do it ( almost too much). You'll hear commentators referencing Boitano even if it's not the Lutz.
True, true! You’re absolutely right about that.
When I saw this video last night, I had the same reaction you did. “Wow, she did the Tano move in 1968!” I had to go back and watch it again to see the jump she paired with this arm position. 🙂🙂🙂
@@pilotgal6191 .
я не пропускаю ни одного соревнования по фк женское одиночное,с удовольствием многое пересматриваю,этот прокат еле досмотрел,все ждал когда закончится,вот это уровень был в те далекие годы,как же далеко убежало современное катание,особенно команды Этери
@@floskate я не осуждаю и не говорю,что это ужасно,я говорю как сильно усложнилось современное катание
Но и оценки не высокие. Я не понимаю, когда одни ставят 5,4, а другие 5,8. Где объективность?
I don't believe there has been another female skater so intimate with ice as Janet. Prodigy? Most certainly and one of a kind.
gabrielle zeifert was better
Check out Yuna Kim of South Korea. Really lovely to watch
@maseratic boychik USA is real evil empire.
@@voronion not stylistically. Not by a long shot.
@@nmtg this video is about Janet Lynn! Not Yuna Kim decades later.
Janet Lynn was a beautiful skater. Dick Button once described her as woven silk and that fits her perfectly.
She was just so smooth from one form to another, she made it look effortless.
Figure skating has certainly changed over the years. It's interesting to see how things were back then.
Figure skating really lost something when they took out the figures.
Philip Alumbo I’m a classically trained musician, and to me it seems akin to taking the scales and other technical exercises out of playing an instrument. Having those skills, and the repetition involved in practising them is invaluable when you start to play the big stuff. And it’s progressive, as you master one thing, then harder things get added in. And scales and technical work always come first, and are always examined first. There’s a discipline that gets instilled in the process as well..you spend two or three hours a day focussed on technical work, and everything else flows on from that. That doesn’t necessarily apply to the occasional prodigy that comes along, but true prodigies are few and far between. It seems to me that people have just gotten lazy, and it shows. Even the best ballet dancers in prestigious companies attend classes of more than an hour everyday, going over their technique, it’s as important in skating as it is in any other artistic discipline.
Beautiful. Such simplicity. I always loved her. But her non-standing leg when she lands her jumps is very low. But still her jumps are very beautiful.
In fact, that low non-standing leg in jump landings gives an incredible flow to her routine! Which is so, so different from today where landings are often heavy & laborous and too long and the skaters oftentimes drop their backs very low - especialluly the men. Very beautiful performance. I always loved her balletic style. And soft and humble personhood which exudes...
Brenda Anne Du Faur I love the balletic style too.
So graceful.
thank u for the knowledeable comments, everyone
This is from the year my parents graduated from high school, so well before my time. It is fascinating to watch her. Her spins travel a lot, and seemed to have very few rotations. I'm not sure they meet today's standards, other than that scratch spin at the end, which was beautiful. That being said, her jumps were INCREDIBLE!
if janet hadnt had to spend 6 hrs a day on figures and she had the advantages of todays skaters she would probably still be on top because of the fact she knows instinctively how to move on the ice and create an entire play without words un like almost every skater since her can do
Beautiful deep edges!!
Janet Lynn was perhaps not the most gifted technically, but I don't know the sport. if you only focus on how you feel watching her skate, she is the greatest of all time, and every skater since only chases the ghost of trying to replicate what she did - bringing us what heaven must be like.
maseratic boychik - Was he Carol Heiss's coach also? - I noted she did AXELS in both directions... other than John Curry, Janet and Carol are the only skaters I can recall excelling in both directions- As you note, an INCREDIBLE feat and mastery of the sport!
Ur nuts dude
As much as I love Janet's skating, I don't know if I would go that far, but you're right about her having a special quality, and I like what you wrote. Also, it was Janet's performances at US Nationals that were her best.
Please!!
Ну о-о-очень красиво! Просто великолепно! Завораживающе легко и как бы играючи откатала программу. Удивили две вещи: 1968 год и почему такие низкие оценки?
Ну очень красиво! Блин. 68 год. Мне было 4 года. Почему я всегда люблю фигурное катание? Сама не пойму 🤗👋
А я только родилась. Какая прелесть эта программа!
This was 1968??? she seems way ahead of her time!
Notice the jump in the opposite direction?
One judge gave her a 5.3 for artistic impression. The lowest mark should have been 5.8, and she didn't even get one of those this time. Well, I guess she made a few little mistakes and perhaps that subtracts from artistic impression? The way she held her body, moved/held her hands, wrists and arms, the extension on her free leg, it was all so beautiful. She looks like she's floating in the beginning of her program.
Janet would become the definition of the modern style in women's skating, and she inspired, was copied and admired by many who came after her. I didn't see a female skater who was as artistic, musical, and had such aesthetically beautiful form on the ice until Oksana Baiul, over 25 years later.
Janet and I are the same age, so it was was really special for me growing up, seeing a skater with her gifts emerge. I remember how happy I was when, after not winning an Olympic gold medal because of her figures, she became the highest-paid professional female athlete of her time.
Although I never met Janet, my connection to her got a little bizarre, because I skated in a show with the Olympic gold medalist who trounced Janet, and I know what she got paid -- wasn't much, although it was about eight times as much as I made in the chorus line. The experience was special though.
@@floskate
The Google algorithm is throwing a bunch of your skating videos at me, and with them so many memories come up. Hey, I'm retired, going blind reading a thousand pages a day about Trump, so this is a nice break. I posted a long comment about the Trixi/Janet rivalry under a Trixi video about her doing figures. But since you mentioned the show...
Yes, kitsch was the operative word for HOI (Holiday on Ice) International shows in the '70s. Here's a clip (link below) of my show from 1974, a few years before I was in the show as a line skater. They filmed the show when the production was new, so the costumes looked the best. Again, unfortunately, I was not there.
So this (link below) was the Apple Girl number, depicting something from a speakeasy during the Chicago prohibition years, where girls sold apples instead of their bodies, or god knows what. I'm highlighting this link for two reasons.
You have to look hard to see it, but the girls are holding an apple, and at one point they throw it into the audience. I think the apples in their basket weren't real, except they had this one real apple to fling at the audience, to people in the first few rows. They didn't toss them at children, but tried to pick a male who looked like he would be able to catch an apple.
The funny and fun part of this was few people in the audience were prepared to have an apple thrown at them, no matter how many preparatory moves a girl made to signal that she was going to throw one. The apples would thud on people's chests, fall on the floor, or even hit them in the head. I think only about half were actually caught.
I was a waiter in this number (you can see a couple guys with an apron and red vest on in the background), so after my little part of serving drinks to couples in fancy dress (not seen in this video clip), I could stand back and watch the apple girls throw their apples at unsuspecting audience members.
For skaters skating the show, we enjoyed the show on our own terms, watching other skaters slip, looking at people in the audience (although it was very dark in some arenas and not easy to see them well, except the first row, because the spotlights would show on them at times), sometimes pulling pranks. During a performance, a Czech skater stuck his skate out and tripped me once, and I stumbled into my entrance in that number, barely catching my balance. I was mad. He got fined for that.
At one point in a number, all the guys in the show were supposed to skate up and form a double line, taking our top hats off and bowing, so that a feather-clad soloist could make her entrance prancing down between us. I caught my edge on the stop and went sliding out on my back, so that I was in front of this soloist, as she kind of had to prance around me. The guys in the line were laughing hysterically, the soloist was laughing, and the audience went wild.
But oh, back to this clip. This was the same waiter costume I had on when Alex the hotheaded Russian hauled off and slugged me in the face on the ice behind the curtain and I bled like a fountain all over my costume. They should have preserved it and put it behind glass somewhere. He got fined $50 for "unprofessional conduct" and I was fined $15 for "fooling around." I won't go into the whole story, but why did he slug me? I took his hat.
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@@Timzart7, thank you for telling!
@@Timzart7 way too long a reply...and off-topic. Let’s stick to the video.
This was 1968, she was not yet a top skater. Her figures were poor. Figures counted for 60% of the final mark. Here she was way behind after figures. Plus the judges held back the top marks in the freeskate for the topmost skaters.
@@waynehentley4332 Good point about the marks being held back for the freeskate, which was another thing besides figures themselves (that they were included at all) that I didn't like about figures and the grading system.
Best air position ever and rotation at the top of the jump with wonderful style. Easily one of the greatest skaters of all time.
Wow!
Am enjoying these gems. Janet's time was four years later & had she mastered the school figures maybe she would've been relaxed going into the final. Who knows? Recall her expressing her shock when she fell. She says she just didn't see that coming. Remember Bill Buckner & the unfortunate error in fielding Mookie Wilson's ground ball in the World Series back in 1986? He must've fielded a hundred screaming ground balls to 1st up to 1986. He had to have been shocked the ball went right through. Unlike Buckner though, Janet wouldn't have a second chance.
Thank you for posting this. It's interesting to see how ladies figure skating has changed. What was with those people walking past in the beginning? Where were they going? For snacks??
Bathroom break?
Janet Lynn had the same beautiful speed and flow across the ice as pairs skaters Gordeeva and Grinkov
WOW!
Schöne Kür für 1968.❤
This looks better than Peggy Fleming's free skate. The movement seems more free and natural and the jumps look better. I would love to know why this got much lower marks? Fleming's free skate had several errors and did not have this level of content.
You know what? I can't disagree with you. Although Janet made the mistake of under-rotating and two-footing her triple Salchow, and she puts her foot down on the last d. Axel, and one other stumble, and a few very minor mistakes -- even with all that, her skating is just so beautiful, and quite possibly better than Fleming's performance. You can watch Janet's better performances a dozen times in a row, or even a slightly flawed one like this, and still enjoy them each time.
But here are the other crazy factors where it gets weird. Fleming was a really good skater, was first after figures, and Janet's compulsory figures put her in 14th place, which even if she got all 6.0s in the free skate would not have put her in the medals at this Olympics.
But the real answer to your main question is probably that skating was political, more so then than now, I think, and sometimes the judging was biased.
Widespread in the skating community of each country, there was even a prejudice against new skaters or upstarts, in favor of seasoned skaters who had done well in the past.
There was an unspoken consensus, even among foreign judges probably, that if Peggy Fleming skated reasonably well and her figures were good (she was first in those), and other skaters were not flawless, she deserved to win.
There's a psychological component to judging. If the judges were seeing all these skaters for the first time, coming into a competition with no preconceptions about how they feel about a skater, or what they saw in past performances, they would judge more fairly and Janet would have gotten higher marks.
Judges are human and they get excited too. Some of them might be so hyped up (it's the Olympics!), they don't even see the incredible beauty of Janet Lynn's skating, because she's a newcomer. Instead, they are worried about making the "right" decision, in terms of what pleases their peers, or what keeps them in the best standing with the judging association (national or world), or the Olympic Committee, or the figure skating association.
They also may think things like, "Unless she's in a car crash or something, Janet is going to probably win gold at the next Olympics, if she can buckle down and improve her all-important f-ing compulsory figures."
There's a whole backstory to the plane crash, Peggy Fleming rising out of the ashes, and Peggy was an innovative and very special skater in her own right.
If it's any consolation, and to Peggy's credit, she has admitted countless times that the '68 Olympics wasn't her best performance, or even close to it. However, she was just glad she did well in figures, and got through the free without too many mistakes or melting down completely, and that any challengers made mistakes, so it wasn't close. She was the undisputed winner.
Going into the Olympics, the hype and pressure for Peggy must have been enormous. Her parents were not rich, and she loved skating, but didn't like competing, so she was just itching to make some money back, and go pro, wear that ice queen crown.
Ever since Sonja Henie won the Olympics and became a HUGE movie star, skating was not all just about the skating. It was about glamour. It was about popularizing winter sports and the people in them. It was about dreams.
A lot of people wanted Fleming to win, because Carol Heiss had aged out as the American ice queen, but she had made a nice small splash as ice queen.
With Tenley Albright, only second in the Olympics, that loser just wanted to go to school and become a surgeon. What a bore! (I'm being sarcastic). There wasn't going to be a lot of marketing opportunities or movie making in her skating future.
But with Peggy Fleming, the sky was the limit. She was thin, no beefy thighs propelling her jumps a yard off the ice, but so balletic, and with a beautiful face. She was an ice ballerina with excellent skating skills, and also marketable as a sex symbol. She was the jackpot. Peggy would inspire thousands of girls to take up skating.
So the real crisis happened at the next Winter Olympics, when in my mind finally they at least found out something had to be done about compulsory figures, and then it took them 20 years to do what should have been done with them in 1932, get rid of them.
Janet had her day, becoming the highest paid women's athlete in decades, as of 1973. Janet was shy, a lovely person, a committed Christian, and her faith probably helped her when she lost the Olympics to an Austrian woman with satanically good compulsory figures. No, don't cry for Janet Lynn.
One more thing, Peggy Fleming had a history of skating fine performances for four years before the 1968 Olympics, including two World gold medals in the preceding two years.
Anyway, here's a link to Janet coming in 2nd place in the free in the 1970 Worlds, in one of her top two or three amateur performances probably. Gaby Seyfert (East Germany) won the free program, by flying through it with very high jumps. It wasn't at the artistic level of Janet though. Janet was 6th overall, because of her infernal compulsory figures.
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@@Timzart7 Peggy was going to win regardless because she was far ahead in figures. But I agree the feeling was that she should be first based on her mature and balletic interpretation.
@@skatefan9495 My understanding of it was that Peggy really was that much better overall than everyone else in the field. I would have loved to have seen her figures, because Peggy apparently wiped the floor with everyone in that portion of the competition. And since figures accounted for 60% of the score at the time, she was nearly unbeatable.
It actually is. Peggy was a master of school figures and probably had won before she even skated. This is a program worth watching many years later, while Peggy's was not one of her best. This is nothing against Peggy, who is a legend and the first truly artistic skater, in my opinion.
A classic layback spin!! These days, the Code of Points has ruined the beauty of skating.
Прыжки во второй части программы???? В 1968 году???? Нихренасе😲
Двойные
Like watching ballet!
凄く美しいです🎵
５０年以上の、時間を経過していても
なお美しく冴えていて素敵です。o(^-^o)(o^-^)o
今現在の採点方法とは全く違う方法が
採用されていたんでしょうねえ、、、
Bravissima👏⛸🦋
как облачко.легкая.
Все катаются как оловянные солдатики.
Peggy may have won gold, but Janet won everyones' hearts. Watch the arms. Are they graceful and expressive, or do they just protrude from the body like two salamis?
The only skater to come close to Janet's artistry (IMHO) was Oksana Baiul. They felt the music, they interpreted it, they weren't intent on the next triple at the expense of everything in between.
LOL two salamis.😅 I know what you mean. Janet's arms were definitely not like that for sure.
I saw her skating in Sapporo, but this is the first time I saw in Grenoble. I did not know she joined that.Thanks for uploading.What does LP mean?
LP = Long Program
@@erika9763 I see. Thanks a lot.
At the beginning, it sounds like someone dropped the needle too hard on the turntable!
Did you see at 1:50 her jump with the one arm overhead? Way before today's skaters.
Как статуетка,тоненькая,грациозная,красивый костюм и вполне сложное и современное катание.
2 оборотные прыжки с ошибками - современное катание
@@ЛилияУсманова-с6ы note bene 1968год,кажется
серьезно? сложное,современное? ты хоть фигурное катание то смотрел хоть раз)))
What exactly is a delay when it comes to jumps?
When she jumps in the air, she doesn’t start rotating until she’s completely off the ice. Most skaters start their rotation as they are launching in the air. It’s a rare talent and she does it beautifully.
In the LP Janet was better than Peggy, Better jumps and spins.
I know that she was praised like hell for her artistry, but in this competition I prefer both Gaby Seifert and Hana Maskova over her... Maybe she just developed it when she was older...
She's only 15 here. Maskova and Seyfert were both much more seasoned competitors. If you want to see Janet at her artistic best then watch 1971 world's freeskate.
@@floskate okay, thank you 👍🏻
I Notice How Much Figure Skating Has Changed Over The Years /It Seems That Now In Days They Do More Harder Twists N Turns / I Didnt See That In This Girls Dance Routine / Figure Skaters Today Seem More Flexible And Routines Are Harder 💃🕺
Janet Lynn with a bunny-hop st the start of this Olympic program ! Her spirals and split jumps were lackluster as compared to Sasha Cohen .
Also fascinating to see no kiss and cry area. When janet comes ofc yhe ice, see the skaters sitting rink side waiting to skate ! The skating times have changed ! (Not sure if it for the better ).
@@skatefan9495 : Yes, see the youtube video by santamoris: 'Sasha at 14'. The program far excels anything of Janet Lynn's.
Different time. Very business like atmosphere. Prob no one could forsee what the sport has evolved into. Honestly from cerebral school figures (60%) to a cumulative action packed model. Talk about 180°. Like when track & field evolved from ash & cinder to all weather & hand timing in tenths of a second to Swiss timing in hundredths of a second. Big sea change. All sports evolve & some times it's puzzling to disappointing.
Скукотище!!!!!
I thought the debut was in the mid 50's? Maybe, pre international? Janet Lynn was filmed and picked up by the Windsor station CKLW and Jehovah's witnesses wanted to disfellowship as skating under the name of a country was too political, yet, Janet Lynn was not one of Jehovah's witnesses. Hmmm...maybe there are earlier versions pre international? Janet Lynn was banned from skating professionally and non-professionally in Canada as signed by the Queen of England. After all, it was showing one's legs was not shall I say, ladylike?