I'm Removing My Miter Saw Station Fence For Ever. Here's Why!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2018
- I've decided I no longer need the fence on my miter saw station so I'm removing it and installing this t-track stop block system.
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David Picciuto
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Get the plans for this miter saw station:
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That has to be the world's prettiest miter station.
At the end of your sign off line...you should record a crowd of people yelling “Make Something!” I thought that was about to happen in this video.
Who'da know Moby was a woodworker? Great job and perfect timing for me. Shall follow the rest! :D
I like how you incorporate swag into your woodworking videos. This concept is so simple but still outside the box. Mind blown. Appreciate you sharing your craft with us!
I have no words! Its beautiful! I made a DIY fence and after a little while kept getting cuts that were off...and I think its because of my DIY fence (and partially because I am an armature lol)! Thank you for all of the tips, tricks, and inspiration :)
I absolutely love the way you edit these videos,you really understand the entertainment side of youtube that most channels neglect.
Very slick solution. Beautiful, as well. I have seen another clever option that works if you don't have a miter station, but you have one long table for your miter saw. You make a 12-18" long box that sits on your work table at the same height as your miter saw surface, with a lip that sits over the edge your work table. It's an adjustable outfeed box. The box can slide along your table to get to whatever length you need for your stop. It can have a t-track or a lip on top of the far edge for affixing a stop block with a hold down or clamp. You can also fix a stop block permanently, since you can adjust the location of the box. Just slide this box wherever you need the stop to be, and to support your wood at the same time. You can make these boxes wider and/or deeper to suit your work area. This option eliminates the need to do anything to your work table, and allows you to use any table next to your miter saw. The height of this box is determined by the difference between your work table and your miter saw surface. If you don't have room for a dedicated miter station, this is a nice solution.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm literally sitting here designing a miter saw station build and trying to figure out a way to optimize benchtop space. I was going to put a lower front shelf just for stop blocks. Your bench makes more sense. you saved me some extra work.
I love the way you make/ edit your videos. The little blurbs of songs make it! Making something useful and having entertaining video makes me come back for more!
Great improvement to the miter station. Beautifully shot and edited as well. Please keep the videos going they are an inspiration to to many of us makers.
i just want to say, i love that you used walnut plywood for this. I also find my shop to be my "special place" and love to use materials that most would see as a waste in such a scenario. I work for a cabinet shop which specializes in cabinet doors.. long story short I get ALOT of veneer panels which are scrap to us. Most would see using half a sheet of Carpathian elm burl plywood which is $600 per 4x8 sheet as the back for your tool wall absolutely insane, and thats exactly what i did.. LOVE IT! keep it up, never stop improving your space and never stop sharing the journey. for what its worth.. I also support your decision in having carpet in the shop, most use a broom, you use a vacuum and that sounds like a win in itself to me!
Oh man! You mush have a killer looking shop! Thank you! Appreciated!
Starts crying like a little baby and drueling all at the same time.
I'm at the point where the $600 will be so much better spent for me on some concrete, electrical, insulation, etc. etc. but am much looking forward to making the shop really nice one day...
Cool idea. I was getting ready to build my miter saw fence and I was thinking that I didn’t like how it costed so much space on the work bench. I like this idea much better. So thank you for posting this. This is definitely the route I’ll be going.
Very nice. I'm just finishing up my miter station (after putting it off for several years) I also went fenceless and lifted your stopblock design (thanks). The right extension of my setup has a downdraft table as the top which I'm also pleased to finally have.
So after watching your vid I decided this was for me. I had a fence down the middle of my mitre station / workbench. It basically eliminated that workbench from being useful for anything else. Hated it forever. So great idea! It was one of those why didn't I ever consider doing this kind of thing. Anyway, works great. I put cam lever locks on the blocks instead of the knobs, but pretty much identical to your setup. Haven't regretted it 1 second. Thanks man!
Love it!! I am thinking ahead on maybe how a couple more t-tracks could be added and you have an awesome clamping,hold-down table / Miter saw table with that Fence gone now.
Really upped the production value, and props to acknowledging others.
Ah man! Thanks for idea. I've been struggling because I have a small space and not enough room for a nice big station. I use a couple of tables for the stock support when cutting, but getting a fence to line up is a pain when the two different tables are not fixed together. This should solve my challenge! Thanks for sharing!
Your music video clip inserts make my day. Keep them coming! Classic Picciuto.
This changes things for my future miter station. Glad you shared! I haven‘t seen Marc‘s or heard about it yet. Why did we all assume a miter saw station needs a fence? Gets me all 🤔.
Nice job. This is what I’m planning so I can have my mounted router to the left. With two T tracks running from the back to the front so the router can have a fence. 👍
Great work! I've never put a fence on my station either because I intend to put some cabinets on top, after seeing this, I'll make sure they are recessed a bit!
Accidental walnut realization was awesome! Looks great.
I think I need to change to this system. Gives you so much more usable space. Loving the camera work.
I haven't built a miter saw station yet but you have made me rethink my design
This is awesome man! Love the new changes in editing and shots. a joy to watch!
'This is how you do it' with Walnut plywood and the Gripper! You're my boy, Blue!
Dude this edit had me HOWLING! So, so good. Way to go team.
I have never thought about not needing a fence, but you're certainly right! Thanks for another great idea on making the shop a little better. Check it!
I'm getting ready to build a miter station and was going to do a removable fence (for the extra working area). Thanks for showing the obvious solution. Now for the jealousy part, I have roughly 36' of wall to do it on.
Still one of my all time favourite makers and getting better every video. Loving the cinematography during that table saw scene
Thank you!!
Agreed
That walnut ply looks so good, you'll have to pull the whole thing out, and rebuild it all from walnut!
It looks really good. I honestly didn't know that they made walnut ply, but I REALLY want some now!
Loving the sound edits. One of my favourite videos
Dude the cinematography is on point. Dan is killing it.
Excellent idea (regardless that it was borrowed) and execution. Also the Montell Jordan groove throughout was top class!
This is what I have been planning to do for mine. I agree with not having a big fence. Use that space for something else. Great tip.
Got the plans! It’s completely perfect for what I need. 👍🏼👍🏼 keep sanding where you live!
THANK YOU!! Much appreciated!
This is the best, and most hilarious woodworking channel on the tubes of the ewe. Win.
The camera work/editing/music starting around 2:50 convinced me to subscribe.
That surprise walnut makes that miter station classy af.
Hell yeah! Accidental walnut ftw
Only downside is that it looks so good that he will have to baby it. Oh well, looks are definitely important when posting your workshop on youtube. The cleaner and better looking your shop the more professional you look.
Love this edit, speed ramps were perfect - that is how you do it
Love the design. It gives you so much more usable space
Like it. Great thought. Need to make some changes on my own now.. looking to the rest of the build of your miter station.
Awesome job, currently building my wood shop in my barn (to have it climate controlled) and was wondering about a fence for my miter station and now I don't. Love your Band saw boxes as they will be my Christmas gifts to friends this year. Keep posting outstanding videos!
Revolutionized! I definitely won’t be adding the fence I’ve planned on doing😁 accident or not the walnut looks gorgeous. Awesome stuff David!😊👊
Awesome video-thanks for having it be fun too! Great design!
Great video and editing David, that “is” how ya do it, always learn here and wanna go make something, keep it popin 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
That's a great idea Dave. 👍 I would put on the back some pair if drawers like you already mentioned 🤟🏻
Just started watching your videos a few weeks ago. Already at the top of my favorites.
Right on, thanks!!!!
Hey, I’m watching this and it’s Friday night😁. As always, great idea and great work.
I love that work station! I like the idea of no fence better and your stop blocks look as good as well as they function. I think this is the station I've been looking for. Also, great work on the video editing.... I like the old school music clips.
I really enjoyed this short video. It's been years since I've heard anyone say cut the end grain first. I guess everyone just takes that for granted.
Dude, this is the most entertaining and fun woodworking video I have seen and I have seen most of them! Great video “ This is how we do it” 😎
I thought about this when planning/building my miter system. I opted to stick with the fence, but attached it to the table with 3/8 dowels every 16 inches or so. When I don't need the fence, and could use more work surface, I just simply lift the fence out the table. Works like a charm.
yeah was trying to figure out how to do a removable fence. I saw one guy that put t-trac perpendicular to the bench and so could just loosen the fence and push it to the back. He put stops in the t-track so that he could easily return it to the same position.
Recently saw a video of why you do NOT want a fence. Having a fence means that a long piece of stock with a bend/warp cannot register against the mitre saw fence to ensure the desired angle cut. Not having the fence, it instead just a stop, means that the portion of wood nearest the blade can register against the mitre saw fence and any warp/bend can still be placed against the stop.
Glad I saw this befor I make my miter station. It deff makes sense why the fence isn’t needed.
The sweeping shots really look cool and fun to shoot! Killin it picciuto
I’m so jealous of your shop !!! Great edit and great idea, thanks Dave ! 👊
I like this. I've made 2 mitre saw stations at work and neither have fences. The main reason for the station was to make long wing tables level with the saw to support the timber. A long fence would interfere with boards that may have a bow or spring in them.
I like the embeded t-track for the stops. I don't have that. The students might wreck it!
Beautiful job! And the videography was amazing!
Nice solution option. I have a fence with ruler embedded to use for measurement, but the actual saw fence is about 1/2 inch proud of the bench fence, so the saw fence is the reference. Your solution makes more sense if you don't need or use the ruler and can utilize the space (I have drawers above the fence). You could add a ruler beside the track, but it might wear quickly with use. Great video.
Such a great video! Very well recorded and informative. I also love the miter station. Great work.
Oh no!!! You used Walnut for your miter station 😲. LOL!!! Anyway... I LOVE this. I have not yet added a fence to my miter station and this is such a better idea. So glad you shared this. Such a cleaner look. More space. And I will still be able to use the miter station on either side .
Great idea; I will have to think about something similar as I am just starting to build my miter station.
Oh snap, we used walnut 🤣
I was very disappointed you didn't add a Madonna's get into the groove clip when you put the bolt into the T- track..
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But with the walnut all it's forgiven 👍
Sorry! I have used that clip before!
Great idea. Simple design is always the best choice.
I was kind if hoping it was a short video saying The wood whisperer made me do it. Lol😝
But very good and helpful video. Love how you mixed the music. 😉
This is the solution I was looking for! I never installed a fence on my miter station because I knew about the inevitable misalignment problems. I've been using heavy weights for stopblocks. But the track is way better.
Excellent video. Love the mix of cinematic slow mo shots and good old Piccouto humor!
Just having some fun! Thanks!
You crack me up, man. This is a nice video. Your new camera man is on point. Excellent tip about routing chamfers.
You're killing it brother I thank you sir !
Getting into a groove with your new camera guy. Loved this vid. Nice job in post.
Love this idea. Have the exact same problem in my garage. Ordering track now and doing this this weekend.
Right on!!
"Accidental" use of walnut plywood lol... Really digging the editing, motion shots, etc David. - Jim
Weird flex, but ok! Haha
Awesome video, I reckon 90% of tradesman/woodworkers in America have the best workshops , I usually skip these videos but this one 👌😅
Dude, concept and video production are both kickin!
Great video, and great work. If I can provide a suggestion, it would be to chamfer the bottom edges of the stop block too, or at least the edge that your work piece will butt up against. That way sawdust build-up wont prevent the work piece from butting up flush against the stop block.
Forever, ever?
Good idea. Will keep it in my back pocket for when I build a miter saw station in the future!
Sorry Ms Jackson.
Check it!
Awesome, I am building 2 new work benches in my garage and because I dont have much space (single garage) I was thinking of how to make the fences removable, but this is just a far better way to do it. Fences be damned!
Excellent video.
I love the idea and I love the music taking me back old school
Hahaha love it! I loved the “accidentally” used walnut plywood lol to funny
I think I might have to accidentally use some walnut.
that's a pretty dope miter saw station! so nice lol :) The song remix is awesome too!!
This video brought to you by WPAOA the Walnut Plywood Association of America! Looks fantastic I have to say. Makes perfect sense to do away with the fence and use a stop block system....and Walnut? Why not!
Excellent. The only thing I would add is a shallow dado beside the T-track. So I can still have my tape measure thats flush to the top.
Good idea!!!!
I came down to the comments to say "add a tape measure"
They have T tracks with built in spots for a tape measure
True, though thats more expensive. As well as you needing a wider and irregular shaped dado to house it.
I was going to add.... Install a tape measure.. Beat me to it!
I love this idea. I work with construction grade material alot making bunk beds and they are seldom dead straight. I've had some serious kick back cutting 2"x10"x8' boards.. I dont know why I didn't think of this.
Nice editing work!
If the bench fence and miter saw fence are not staying in alignment you have a design problem with the saw station. Sometimes I like a full length fence and sometimes not, just depends on what I'm doing. I always like a gap between the bench fence and the saw fence though as a space to grab material and reposition material.
Love this, great job and great video!!! I’m making this today
Interesting - something to think about! !! !!! I am moving into a new house and will probably use this idea. Thanks David
Great idea David. Fab idea!!
You got a new sub. Mainly because of your dope editing! Love it keep up the awesome vids!
We are planning our saw wall. Thanks to your video we will not have a long fence along the entire 40 ft bench.
Nice video. Your going to miss the flip stops. That’s my only thought on ditching the fence. A flush miter fence is a mistake. My solution was to have the miter fence set back and fully adjustable to move up and back if needed.
I agree. I would put short t-track the other way and make the fence slide back and forward so you can use flip stops when you need them.
The solution in the video is not for me. I also set my fence with the tape/track and flip stop back about 1/8” from the saws backstop. It never interferes with the cut but allows for full use of the stops with fast and accurate length setting. The video is going backwards in my option. I hated to always having to spend the time measuring, marking then carefully cutting on the right side of the line, etc,., ad naseum.
Those stops are GOEGEOUS! Ha ha. Fun vid, David!
Great video again. I think you've achieved a perfect artsy/entertaining/educational balance. Keep it up!
Right on, thank you!!
This is actually a brilliant idea. Makes construction of the station so much easier AND less wasted space AND more usable work space. Totally stealing this idea. But not "accidentally" using walnut ply...
You’re an OG ply-a!
Very nice. Only thing I would change is that I'd offset the track so you could make the stops into flip stops so you can use multiple.
Upping the cinematography in this one, nicely done. And the woodworking isn't too shabby either hah (as always).
this is a great idea! And accidental Walnut ply for a Miter station? Ballin'
I’ve always wondered about the fences on miter stations going out of alignment. Since I haven’t made my miter station yet I’m able to plan one out and will most likely not include a fence. As Marc said when someone questioned him, the fence takes up too much space and prevents the cabinet top from being used for other things. I don’t have space in my shop to waste that much space for a tool I only use to cut down stock to a rough dimension. Thanks for posting your version of a fenceless miter saw station.
The original plans from Fine Woodworking actually address this very topic and it was something I struggled with when I built my portable miter saw station. The fence system is supposed to be back ~1/2" from the fence of the miter saw itself to allow cuts on bowed wood (I say "supposed to be" based on the plans, not personal preference). I checked with a ton of different makers online and watched their build videos and no one really did it that way... so I caved and made my 1/2" MDF sacrificial fence align with the miter saw station fence I built. I can always move the miter saw (or swap out the MDF for a thicker size) - best of both worlds. I liked the fence because of measurement system, so I'll be keeping mine for now!
new cameraman is good
I really digged that slow revolving shot!
Bro, you are killing me with the “stripping out screw head” sound!!!!!! I’m dying laughing every time!!!
added in sound? for real? i was about to comment.....drives me nuts but if its added that makes sense
Nicely done David! 👍👊