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- More Documentaries by this same filmmaker:
"A New Home For Virgie" (Final Edit): • A New Home For Virgie ...
"No Place To Go" (2018): • NO PLACE TO GO (2018)
"Highway Hula" (2017): • HIGHWAY HULA (2017)
"Just Another Racer: The Randy Bethea Story" (2012): • Just Another Racer: Th...
"Hippy House" (2013): • "HIPPY HOUSE: A 40 Yea...
"Old Soldier's Home" (2015): • OLD SOLDIER'S HOME (20...
"A Cowboy At Heart: Dick Warlock's Life on Film" (2014): • A Cowboy at Heart: Dic...
"Fiddle Kid" (2016): • FIDDLE KID (2016) - บันเทิง
This pastor is a far cry from the self serving ones today.. The ones who need to wear versace suits, drive a Bentley and own a mansion. This man is doing the real work to help
Amen, some real truth there
I said that to a preacher that really helps the people
Yes! I believe he’s a true Christian. Would love to attend this chuch
I live in Dallas GA and I wonder if he could recommend a church for me? It not being that far you never know
Like those evangelical Millionaires preachers ...
Well I have to say this is one of the first times I've ever seen a minister that I actually thought was doing God's work, without Judgment of people, without self-serving motivations. He truly is an embodiment of the teachings of Christ. Such a heartwarming story.
Msmeg. I agree. Truly a good man.
I agree🙏✝️
There are many out there. Like most things, we only see the bad things highlighted and multiplied. Sad it’s like that.
THAT is odd.. I've known MANY ministers and pastors who did much good for many people. Guess we run in different circles.
Years ago I was given a free car from a pastor,some follow Jesus teaching's
My heart broke when the pastor swallowed before saying how much he thought they would need. He seemed to look as if it was a lot to ask and was afraid to say the number, even though it was really the bare minimum. God bless such a good man.
I caught that too. Very interesting little piece there.
Sid Ney I noticed that too. To me it shows what an humble person he is and has such a heart to help those in need.
I found this information in a previous comment...
Rev. Sheldon Lifesay
One Accord Ministry
PO Box 207
Rogersville, TN 37857
ofoneaccordministry.org
1-423-921-8044
In the mountains people are so poor. There is no industry or jobs available so even though most of us don’t think that’s a lot of money but there it’s a lot. What a lovely man. Bless you pastor.
@@irishladyjewelie 💜 AMEN, YES TO MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, THAT'S A WHOLE YEAR OF SALARY EVEN! ESPECIALLY BACK THEN. GOD BLESS THE PASTOR & ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED MISS VIRGIE.
STAY BLESSED 😇🙏💜💜💜
Yes I hated to see that
What a long and lonely Life. Her house is falling apart cold air is coming in everywhere she has no food People are stealing her coal her only Source of keeping warm. And yet this beautiful lady Smiles and she laughs. The Lord truly makes some beautiful people.
That preacher is a fine man. Many times in that video, the conversation drifts towards the negative, and every time he steers it right back into the positive. What a great human being.
that was so BEAUTIFUL of you i bet noone else notice that i can tell you are a very spiritual person to have even notice that He is a very HUMBLE man of GOD may GOD BLESS HIM!
This is Christianity at it's finest
I noticed that too.
but glossing over the ugly truth...
Oh yes... glossing over the reality of what is happening. They call that Double speaking - adult protective services should’ve been called.
This is sad . She has a home n is living in fear.
I ain't no tough guy by any stretch of the imagination, but if I was living out there and that boy put his hands on Ms. Virgie, he would have turned up missing. And that's all i have to say about that.
I hear ya brother!
Right on! 🤬🤬🤬
There's a perfect little garden spot for him, too
I come from Tennessee folks and I know what you mean.
@@tamonettX500 He'd make fine fertilizer for some geraniums.
For all the people who helped this woman, thank you and god bless you!
Yes..”G”od , bless you all, for helping!
💜 AMEN, YES GOD BLESS THE PASTOR & ALL THE LOVELY PEOPLE WHO HELPED BEAUTIFUL MISS VIRGIE. STAY BLESSED 😇🙏💜💜💜
GOD respect his name
I caught myself holding back tears when I first saw Virgie. She was so happy to see the preacher and others. Then I saw her grandson… he started talking and was so concerned about what was possibly said about him. He was volunteering so much unsolicited information and his explanations were endless. Virgie’s demeanor changed and she became silent. She looked scared. That broke my heart. Her grandson was locked up for beating her TWICE. He abused poor Virgie. An elderly lady. That’s right up there with pedophiles in my book. I am a survivor of multiple abuses and I can easily sense how horrible he was/is. Rest In Peace dear Virgie.
The light wasn't in her eyes anymore like when she lived in the shack and she's wearing long sleeves in july...looks like she had a red bruise at her left wrist....I hope none of her family got that place after she passed!😡
How did she die?
Ima pay him a visit before I die. Put him on my list
I'm so sorry that Virgie has passed away. I was hoping that she was still living. Well at least she got to live out her remaining time in a decent nice home. I didn't like the idea of her grandson living with her. He's a bad person. I think he was taking advantage of her. And he shouldn't have been allowed to. Considering where her new home came from.
@@GirlJayLea Me first!!
A guilty person always starts a conversation with, "so what y'all saying about me?"
Yes, or a narcissist.
Yes so very true
Well.... 5K plus comments
They are saying a lot.
Think about it. You all talking and when he calls you out on it you say he’s guilty or narcissistic.
That being said. I agree he appears untrustworthy and unsafe around her.
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This is a real man of God who is serving the Lord every single day and is as humble as can be. God bless him and all the people who helped.
Teresa Reid Amen.
Amen lot of rich preacher need to help the poor in need of help they get on the TV and preach the gospel and they are not helping the poor you know God is looking at this 🙏🙏
I agree 100% he is actions as well as words. when he was answering questions at the beginning of the video I new he was a good man of God within the first minutes. I hope the grandson is good to Virgie and not just there waiting for the inevitable so he can claim the home. If he does right by her fair enough but it's worrying.
@@zerofox7347 Ended up he hastened her demise with stress, worry and aggrivating actions... He's in jail now. Probably a very good place for a user...
Amen. Hes doing the Lords work for sure.
If my son ever hit my mother that would be the last time he saw the light of day.
@Roger White Was not talking to you!
My younger son thought he was going to backtalk and be disrespectful to my father when he was younger and he learned real quick he was not. Luckily all my children had great live and respect for their grandparents.
Then obviously you don't love your son nearly as much as you love your own mother.
@Southeastern777 True, love and respect are two different things but if she is willing to do that to her son but not to her mother if the situation was reversed, then she in fact loves her mother much more than her own son.
Amen. He was probably wanting money for drugs .I hope she doesn't have control of any money that was donated.
They turned a blind eye to what was right in front of them, she was happier and healthier alone in her falling down shack with no running water and a doorless outhouse than she is in this new place with all the amenities and a manipulative, exploitative, can't-stop-talking-about-himself, abusive grandson. She became quiet and uncomfortable when her grandson entered the room, and increasingly uncomfortable each time he pressed her to say it was just great that he was there. He (and his girlfriend) should NOT be there, and shame on her daughter (the grandson's mother) for aiding and abetting the situation.
She, the daughter turned to those men for help...she was doing g something at least and old people don't really like hearing what the kids have to say about their situations to begin with. It usually takes outside help most of the time unfortunately. Dealt with plenty of people like that.
She looks scared of that low life grandson! 😢
the grandson was making himself look like the victim by showing the stitches on his neck a few times. Relieved to see he went back to prison for Virgie's sake.
exactly this. Broke my heart seein her at the end like that. Big hearts get taken advantage of, unfortunately. That lady has a big one.
A very patient and kind man came to her aide and judged no man. Amazing.
I was so touched how the pastor responded to any negativity! When something was said about the cat, his response was being by yourself at 85 im sure the couple of cats and dogs bought her alot of comfort and give her someone to talk too !! 😇 Also a comment toward the end about the grandson! The pastors response was everybodys families have problems. I cant judge theres until i take care of my own! I love it! This is a true Christian! This pastor has a amazing heart! God bless him and keep him and continue to allow him to do such good work! Thank you sir! Im so glad the last of her days she was given a good warm,dry,clean place to lay her sweet head ! RIP SWEET LADY !
I noticed that too Melanie, that was great. There were a couple more that he did too.... notice he never talked badly of her old house either. He just said said it was a pole barn construction, it wouldn't be fixable unfortunately because they didn't design it with studs. He was smart enough to know that even thought it was a hell hole it was her only possession in the world. There was an interesting part where after she talked about the coal and not calling the cops, he started to say "Well and when you're here by yourself i'd be afraid to let anybody know you were here" and the camera guy started a different conversation. When he saw the car parts all over the yard, instead of complaining he said "Here in Appalachia a used car is a good car if you can fix it". Just a great human being, very inspirational guy.
Yes he seemed to handle everything well....me I would have chained the grandson to the outhouse for a year,but the pastor was there for her the whole time he is a good guy.
Wish more people were like that... He's a wonderful man.... That was heartwarming to see the community pull together. Bless Miss Virgie's heart, her previous abode s no place for her to be in... I'd never allow my mum to be carrying on heavy water jugs and coal...
Yeah, I'm pretty tired of people saying the poor shouldn't have pets (tho I abhor the term 'pet', my cats are my family...the only family I've got). In fact there should be social welfare programs to assist people who adopt rescue animals as ESAs / companions. It's often the only joy, affection & interaction a person has in life.
And by poor, depressed, disabled and/or isolated people adopting pets, they are also helping to give that animal a home when it might otherwise be killed.
But would you be willing to help a person who wasn't Christian and who didn't want to become one? Or would they have to be "saved" in order to receive help?
We spend millions of dollars to help countries that hate us, but we can't take care of Americans like this woman???
Most don't even know such Appalachians even exist. Sadly, to many Americans, Appalachia may as well be a foreign country.
Exactly. It's hard to believe that a country like ours lets this happen. We'd rather take care of illegals and refugees. Really? A lot of people especially the elderly don't or won't take advantage of what little is available to them because they were raised to be independent and to refuse charity. Also, the paperwork is so full of red tape that anyone especially the elderly find it difficult and beyond their ability to unravel gov't bureaucracy. What really should happen is that government agencies should hire people to actually go out and visit these folks and get them the resources they need. Policy wonks and politicians claim there is no money? Try scaling back the ridiculous pay and instead of the Washington and the local gov't elite having a damn party make them do they're job and hold them accountable.
It's more like hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars every year. Welfare for the world while Americans suffer.
CEOkiller I take care of my elderly mother along with my siblings.. where the fuck is her family?
Linda Eljamal sounds like dysfunctional, maybe drugs, booze involvement and no regard to family unless it's in their own interests, sad,
This Pastor has a heart of gold and filled with compassion. He didn’t have a negative word to say about anyone or anything.
Jeez....bad enough being poor, but old and alone in harsh climates, Virgie has been through a tough time for sure. This Pastor is an unsung hero.
ABSOLUTELY, BUT I really was not at all impressed with his not wanting to get involved in her grandson beating her up, seemed like he forgot those Biblical principles.
Richard Federico absolutely! He's a force to be reckoned with, which is exactly what more pastors should be doing. This man is a real hero.
J.M. ZIMMERMAN I don't know if he really could say anything. The instances were in the past and as far as we could see he'd served time for it and hadn't seemed to have done it again. I worked with social services and there's a thin line with aggressive personalities like him. He was on the defensive when they visited and I have found that its sometimes best to not engage people like him in an argument. So far as everyone knew, he hadn't repeated the violence and if the pastor had waded in accusing him, he could have just waited until they left and then taken his anger out on his grandma. I think the pastor did exactly what he should have. ..let sleeping dogs lie...its very true in abuse cases. Of course if there had been any complaints or the lady was acting like she was under duress I am sure the pastor would have acted accordingly.
True, but Virgie is probably with the Lord now...
The pastor is the sweetest man. Selfless acts of kindness. He is a man of God! We can all learn from him. Sweetest story ever!!
He is what a Christian should be.
Absolutely! I couldn’t agree more! I just loved this story! Bless all involved
Ima say he definitely presents that way! But, I have become skeptical and cynical in my old age. I have seen many a preacher end up being a predator 🤷🏻♀️
He's awesome!
Coming from a KY coal mining town to NYC 30 yrs ago, I can see them real quick now! They always give themselves away. Look for little inconsistencies in what they actually say/do an d what they SAY they'll say/do.
Love how she still styles her hair they way it was so trendy when she was young.
In a small Texas town, a small Baptist church found out a lady was living in a chicken coop. Her house burned down and she didn't have insurance. They bought her a large camper, paid for her electrify and water until she died. I was a reporter then and wrote the story, Christmas comes early for Thelma. It really opened my eyes to the real world.
Wow!
That’s one heck of a story!
And dare I say, absolutely egregious for her to be in that situation in the first place.
I’m glad you brought it to light.
Thank you for your efforts and kindness!
Love & Light from Miami Shores🦚
Stay safe mate🌎✌🏼
Hope you had a wonderful Holiday✨🌲🙏🏼
12/26/22
I was thinking just get a trailer but that's basically what they did
That's terrible she was in that situation but really nice that they helped and took care of her until she passed.
It must've been a huge weight off her shoulders and it's sweet they did all that for nothing in return.
Thank you for sharing your story!
Nothing is cheap when you are poor and nothing is easy when you are old..
I agree 100 percent.
Very well put sir.
Well said and so true
How true is that!!
True
"Thank you for helping my grandma." You'd think that those would have been the first words out of his mouth, instead we got a pilot for the "Delinguent Tony Show"
Yes! EXACTLY!
Bless this precious pastor.. don't let anyone tell you you didn't do the right thing ... Because you did
Watching this with deep sadness. When Virgie moved into her new home, she was so happy and glowing. Now with this visit, she looks very distracted, frightened and sad. She barely spoke to her visitors. Her grandson has brought bad Karma into Virgie's life..her beautiful yard and porch have been destroyed by her Grandson...what a shame. I pray that the Lord will keep Virgie safe and gives her the happiness that she deserves.
Virgie has passed away. So she's in heaven ....a better place.
Old people are our greatest resource. We should always cherish them.
Her family makes me sick. She finally gets a little something and the worst of them descend like vultures to mooch
He said “do you want me here or not i got places to go” knowing damn well nobody will put up with him like granny.
The kind of family that when you come home from the hospital, first thing they’ll ask you is, ‘what kinda drugs they give you?’...
That's how some families are. They won't help you when you're down - even if they've got more than they need - yet swoop in when you've got something they want or need. I had to deal with both of those.
@@lowrider81hd sounds as if know from past experiences like some others- GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH! BACK TO THE PEN HE WENT!
@@frankieshane For how long I wonder. She's smiling after he's gone like she's finally happy to be without him. I hope he stays away from her for good.
I was sorry to read that Ms. Virgie has passed! Thankfully her last few years were in comfort of not having to carry coal to heat her tiny place or to worry about things we take for granted! Pastor, you did good!
So where was the so called family when she really needed them. I wonder who gets the home and land now. It would be nice to think someone who really needed it was given the same chance but I suppose the undeserving family will benefit from other people's generosity. Still she was shown some human and Christian kindness and love before she passed. Good work people. And to the pastor. I hope you continue in this heart worthy task and I know that you and your congregation will be greatly blessed and provided for. THE HEART OF GOD IS WITH THE POOR. and so should ours too. GOD bless you all and bless America.
Janice Corum, yeah and if that worthless grandson got the new house it probably looks like the old house now
@@superbee-di5tp The worthless grandson DID get a new house, but not the one he wanted. ... He got the Big House for stabbing some relatives. He's due to get out in 2020 and will be on close parole.
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She looked happier before
Grandma looked happier, more alert and healthier while she was alone and in peace. She could hear pretty good in the old house. Her ability to keep a conversation going was really good.
Now this guy is a true pastor, not Creflo Dollar, or Benny Hinn or Jan Crouch or Franklin Graham or any of the other million dollar preachers.......THIS guy is the REAL DEAL...God Bless
amen
This pastor is terrific!
You are so right! This is true Christianity at its best. Wonderful.
a really good man for sure
You are so right!
If her grandson needs to be there to help her, why wasn’t he around when she was living in a shack?
Exactly. Hes trash
@@purplecabbage4406 - It's as plain as a nose on a face. He's there, hoping that when Grandma dies, he will have a nice trailer home, all set up for him.
@@weavethehawk oh of course. I knew instantly, as soon as they were talking about getting her another place, that a bumb relative would climb out of the woodwork. They always do.
VSE4me, I agree. She needed him less than she did before she moved. He needed to be gone and that other woman that was there too.
He was there. HIS sorry ass is the one who stole the coal for some METH !
God bless this dear woman.
How in the world her daughter could had let her live like that.
And that drug addicted
Grandson who beats her. Good Lord !
Thank's to all the blessed wonderful people that have helped her.
She’s been living in horrid conditions but her animals look very healthy. I bet they are her best friends. Virgie is such a beautiful sweet soul💗
Heck, she looked healthy too. One man's trash is another man's treasure.
Yeah wish they mind their own business ,, life goes on ,,,,
She is ,,,how dare they try and make a difference .,, the old lady didn’t need the intervention, she was happy they way she was, not looking forward to my last days but who knows what will be , I wish I was like the old lady with no,,, interruptions and with my animal friends and my living husband ,I pray nature will suffice
I've read some of the comments here villifying the preacher because of this video.
This is 2018, the age of social media. It's just my opinion, but this video wasn't made to say look at me, look
at what I have done! It was made to say, please help me help her. I cannot do this by myself.
As much as people talk the talk, not many walk the walk. He made a plea for help, and through the caring of others,
got this lady a decent place to live. How many in this country are in the same situation?
How many are homeless? As I said, this preacher couldn't do it all by himself, so he asked for help.
He wasn't asking for a million dollar home to be built. We can truly end homelessness in this country if people
stop chasing the dollar. Look at rents in Seattle etc. People can't afford to live where they work.
Before anyone criticizes this man, walk in his shoes.
Good for you for pointing out the facts. He truly is a man if God. Shame on the ones that try to put him down for his work.
I agree 100%! And that is not easy for me to say, I am not christian and have never liked the need for recognition that often comes with religon in general. However, this man seems to me to have not one bit of this vested in himself. He is respectful of her, kind to her, and tbh...he knows what its like. You can tell he isnt scared of poverty. He isnt repulsed, but he truly wants better for her.
I agree! it is a miracle that she did not get sick from all that filth! Must be a lot of mold! this Preacher is doing this for the right reason!
The preacher means well, but this whole project was a wasted effort. She belonged in a nursing home where she could have been properly cared for and could have had companionship. Either that or some of the donated money should have been used to hire a woman to come in 2 hours a day to help her. It's foolish to make plans for a frail 85 year old woman to live alone when it's clear she can't take proper care of herself. She was clearly afraid of the grandson. Self-preservation would keep her from saying anything while they were visiting and filming her. What was going to happen after they left? No wonder this area has such a reputation.
@@TubeTorte I disagree.... I worked in geriatrics for years and she may have need of an in home service, but a nursing home would quickly kill her. Women like her dont thrive when their freedoms are taken away. Ive seen many decline and wither away within weeks of being forced away from their homes no matter how destitue they were. I would say she needed someone to come regulaly, and someone to take that grandson out back and teach him something about bein a man. Ppl from her generation have this ingrained sense of self reliance no matter how poor they are, and to take that is literally taking away the thing that gives them dignity
This minister and his flock are living the way Jesus taught his children to live. Notice that his only concern is to help her,not gain attention to himself. I wish I could attend his church!!!
Linda Robbins You can donate money. Put it where ur mouth and heart is.
Adeline
“No good deed goes unpunished.” The video was to get the word out about the desperate need for the dear elderly Mrs. Vergie.
There is nothing wrong for letting people know that the Pastor and Church was doing the Lord’s work. No matter how much good is done in this world scoffers will try to make it look bad. God hates scoffers.
He is the real deal
This is the America we should be taking care of. This is where I want my tax dollars going not wars.
You are so totally mistaken here. Military gets more money than poor people. I think perhaps you should get your facts straight or at least google it. You obviously do not know what Socialism is either. Check your dictionary. And IF socialism is taking care of your fellow Americans and those less fortunate then I guess I am a Socialist!!!!!
You do not help illegal aliens. Illegal aliens can get no help from the government. How stupid can you be.. If they went to the government for help they would be caught and sent back. GEEZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!! Think about it....good grief the stupidity. @@blancaw6280
@@nanabrown8751 Really you fool? What about the catch and release we have going on in this country. They are processed and then released into our country and supposed to return in two years for their trial all while getting to stay in the United States. Of course none of them return and they just go on living in the country forever. What about sanctuary cities like San Francisco and Chicago where it is illegal to ask a person's immigration status when they are arrested. When they are arrested they are just released without ever checking to see if they are illegal and go back to committing crimes. They come here and have children, lots of them. They become a drain on the school systems which the American tax payers have to pay for. They are a drain on the medical system because the hospitals have to treat everybody who comes in regardless of their ability to pay or if they have insurance. We have enough Americans that do this to the tax payers but they are Americans so we have no choice but to pay for them. The last thing we need it do is import more of the worlds most needy people to this country so we can pay for their care. It's not our responsibility and we can't afford it. They need to stay in their own country and work to better it instead of visiting their problems on American workers. They do receive food stamsp @nana brown you are the one with out a clue. get educated before you speak. Your ignorance is showing! This is from the SNAP website sugar pie.
Non-citizens eligible for SNAP with no waiting period
The following non-citizens are eligible with no waiting period:
Qualified alien children under 18.
Refugees admitted under section 207 of INA (includes victims of severe forms of trafficking).
Victims of Trafficking under the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000.
Asylees under Section 208 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).
Deportation withheld under 243(h) or 241(b)(3) of INA.
Amerasian immigrants under 584 of the Foreign Operations, Export Financing and Related Programs Appropriations Act.
Cuban or Haitian entrants as defined in 501(e) of the Refugee Education Assistance Act of 1980.
Iraqi and Afghan special immigrants under Section 101(a)(27) of the INA.
Certain American Indians born abroad.
Members of Hmong or Highland Laotian tribes that helped the U.S. military during the Vietnam era, and who are legally living in the U.S., and their spouses or surviving spouses and unmarried dependent children.
Elderly individuals born on or before Aug. 22, 1931 and who lawfully resided in the U.S. on Aug. 22, 1996.
Lawful Permanent Residents in the U.S. and receiving government payments for disability or blindness.
Lawful Permanent Residents with a military connection (veteran, on active duty, or spouse or child of a veteran or active duty service member).
@@nanabrown8751 Nana Brown, you are an IGNORANT MORON!!, sorry for repeating my self though.
wars and illegal aliens
86 years old, living in a run-down shack...sweet little lady _finally_ gets help, a nice home that she deserves & has some peace of mind...but for only a few months before her pos grandson moves in who had already been arrested *twice* for violence against her, and making the outside of her new home look almost as bad as the inside of her old home. She was afraid of him & _of course_ she couldn't ask/tell him to leave....he'd hurt her again if she had done that. smdh. The grandson is a complete waste of oxygen, a mooch/free-loader & is a big pile of 💩💩💩.
RIP Virgie 😢💔🕊️ March 19th, 2012
When did Ms Virgie pass away?
@@OanhSchlesinger She passed away on April 15th, 2009.
*Edited to correct her date of death.* Virgie passed away on March 19th, 2012. She was 86.
Thank you to joloco1974 for bringing it to my attention so I could fix it. 🕊️
www.findagrave.com/memorial/92048245/virgie-k-bowlin
@@morganjanelle4282 she couldn’t have passed away, then.... she wasn’t even in her new home then
@@joloco1974 Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I have corrected my comment, and again, Thank You. 🙂🕊️
We all know that disgusting grandson was probably waiting down the days so he can take over living there.
As soon as I heard her Grandson moved in my heart sank.
Looks like she isn't as happy as when in the shack, hopefully he wasn't taking her money. I think that living the way she did even though it looked primitive it kept her moving, now she's getting less exercise
Mine did too
It’s convenient the second she got a new home he moved in.
Same.
@@jnieswartz4878 Brought a young woman in there with him. So sad for the old woman. She's too old to be around all that ruckus.
The Grandson should have moved into the old house. It'd be perfect for him.
Too right!
freeloading POS.. I have a "brother" just like him and got tired of supporting his ass. now he lives in his car.
Leeches moved in and no doubt take all they can...lazy arses can't even clean the place
@@dastardlydianne5657 I will give him credit im not
that's where his meth lab is
Her whole demeanor changed once her grandson walked in and started talking. She seems frightened of him and rightly so. 😭
Yeah, then he asked her if she wants him there, she doesn't answer at first and he gets louder with the question, as if her hearing is a problem....then she says yes, of course she's gonna say yes😡
I would be frightened too of him. He's a bad seed
Yes she acted do intimidation
yep, scared he might break her other arm
That’s exactly what I thought. Something is going on there.
This was such a nice thing to do for Virgie. In a country as wealthy as ours, no one should have to live in such poor conditions. God bless all of those people who helped this nice lady.
A true Pastor doing God’s work! Awesome to see His works being done for the Congregation! May God continue to bless!
That pastor was a fine gentleman. God bless him....
He never once talked badly about the grandson, just stated the facts. What a world we would have if everyone acted with such kindness.
Bad Driver Agee but look at all the new migrants who are put up in free housing obtain benefits
This reverend has restored my faith in humanity. god bless you Rev. Sheldon Livesay!!!
God
@debbiehall6616 y
Yes indeed. All praise back to The Almighty ❤️❤️
I'm a caretaker and I've seen this type of relationship, a younger family member taking advantage of their elderly, too many times. he looks to be an addict, of some sort, which means he's dramatic and unpredictable. she looks a little exhausted from all the drama and the non-stop talking about himself. plus, where was all his "help" when she didn't have anything? it shows that he's only using her, probably sticking around to inherit the home, by pretending to be the only one she has. it's all very sad.
Good take on the situation. This is all too common with the elderly to be taken advantage of by relatives. He runs his mouth too much. Doesn't have her best interests at heart.
She looks thin and fragile now. She looked healthier in the old place. But perhaps thats just a coincidence. I dunno, that grandson def a crack head and hes got that girl living there too. I hope hes not taking money of her.
And his mama, her daughter, pawning him off on Ms. Vergie. I've seen that too. Send him there to get him out of her hair under the 'guise' of helping her. Disgraceful. He should have to live next door in the old cabin!
That's EXACTLY what I was just thinking! It disgusted me to see what boy was doing. But nobody wanted to step up and do anything, even though it was obvious they knew what was going on.They acted like it was none of their buisness. It is very upsetting.
And these types never have anything, don’t want to work for it or anything. They just expect it to come to them.
I'd like to thank those who donated!! Just remember that when you give from the heart the Lord blesses you as well as the receivers! I am sure miss Virgie was happy .. pray that the Lord will take care of her .. as for her grandson pray this act of kindness will turn him around! Praying he will come to know the Lord whether it be here or jail! God works in mysterious ways..
in the beginning it was mentioned her daughter went to the church for help.. what I can not wrap my mind around is how is it her daughter could allow her mother to live like that. why would she not take her into her own home.. no way in heck would I allow my mother to live in such a place.. God bless the minister and church for stepping in to help
Lot times the old mtn ppl won't stay with family, pride, fear that they'll lose their own place. Maybe the daughter and her family argue alot or drink etc, and this bothers them and gets on they're nerves or scares them. They'd rather live in a run down place than put up with a house full of ppl fussing and no telling what else. And she probably don't want to know what they do in case the law ask. I'd say she wouldn't go stay there. Them old mtn ppl have alot of pride despite what others think. Land and a home is very important to them and lot of times it's sentimental to them. They're afraid if they can't live in they're own home the gov't will put them in a nursing home and to them that's the worse that can happen.it frowned upon if you put ur elderly in a nursing home.
Maybe mom wouldn't leave the house
No one knows the daughter's situation. The point is that people were led here to help her and her daughter was part of it. I've been learning not to judge, not easy, but you never know anyone's situation.
They have a right to choose.just as my 94 year old father does
What I have heard is a lot of older folks refuse to leave their homes as some say out of pride or maybe they get too anxious.
I know I heard my family in the hills of Virginia left the town because they married a Native American and kept to themselves.
If I had the millions I would help so many.
Its sad to see people of Ms. Virgies age live this way....but thank God for those who helped her.
🙏
When Tony moved in with her he brought alot of bad energy I even felt it through my phone.
He brought Unnecessary drama
Some folks have an evilness with them, I don't let them come around myself,my husband or my children. But I do pray that they can do what's right through Jesus & get satan off their back.
It felt like a black cloud took over the room…very freaky. That kid isn’t right. It wasn’t right for her to feel forced into living with him and living scared at her age especially. I hope he didn’t get that trailer. I hope it went back to the church. To help another elderly person in need. Not the scum bag grandson. Get off your abusive ass and get a job and take care of yourself…man I still get mad when I think about it.
I also felt bad vibes emanating from him in the first second of his presence.
I know she’s a senior and slowing down but I think that no good grandson is stealing her joy. Why her family let her live in such conditions is beyond me. That pastor is a good man. Thank you to him and all that poured into giving Virgie some happiness.
I don't care how small a house the family had there should be enough room for Virgie. Can't imagine them letting her live in that shack.
You can tell a huge difference in her when she lived in her old house she was happy and all smiles then she moved in her new house she was happy and all smiles then he moves in they visit her and she looks terrified to speak. He should be ashamed bully.
@@ATL1975 I was thinking the same thing. She looks sad, and she looks like she’s going down hill since he moved in. This is supposed to be about her and for her, and all of a sudden it’s the Tony Show! I’m not convinced it’s a good idea for him to be there. She doesn’t need the stress! I feel so bad for her 😢
I'm not understanding that either. Why did her family allow her to live like that??? Especially her daughter???? And why aren't they protecting her from her grandson?? Is her daughter (his mother) afraid of him??? There is no way in hell I would let anyone abuse my mother and that includes my own children and family members.
@@ATL1975 I saw that too heartbreaking 💔 😢
It’s Jan 2021, what a beautiful story! I doubt that beautiful lady is still alive, but her story and gentle spirit live on💕
Thank you to everyone who participated!
God is good!
Godbless her
This is what christianity should be. Pastor is a good guy
Yes. I would rather ministries like his take care of folks in need instead of governments.
He is one of the best, a truly good man!
Yes Mr. Flimflam I agree with you.
Exactly! The smaller Christian church's are still doing what Yeshua/Jesus instructed while the big ones are all beast system inc. Wonder why the Vatican wont spend some of those trillions the Rothchilds are holding for them on poor folks around the world.
checkMyLikedVideos because the Vatican and Catholicism has been infiltrated and overtaken by evil. They hoard riches, ignore the poor, judge people, keep world secrets. They help no one. Have you ever really looked into Mother Theresa? She wasn't a Saint! She was a horrible person. it's all about money and power
That’s one wonderful Pastor. I lost faith in organized religion long ago but this Pastor seems to be the real deal. I wish there were more like him.... many more. And God Bless Virgie. Not sure if she’s still with us but wherever she may be.... Blessings to her ❤️
I would go to his Church
Same here. Everyday and twice on Sundays!
I understand your disgust, but still O plead with you to seek your own relationship with the One Truin God verses basing it on what other ppl are doing (including all the fake "prophets", teachers, pastors & any other of the deceived/deceivers are doing or not doing). The Bible warns about that, too. Talks about swaying about in whatever direction the wind is blowing versus planting your faith on solid ground.
She passed in 2012.
When choosing a church look for servants and be a servant. That’s what we as Christians are called to do, serve one another.
I think when they were getting ready to leave, and Grandma said "you can look around if you want to" it was a cry for help. Plus she appears dejected.
The cameraman was kinda pathetic, the pastor wasn't being very pastoral to Virgie's *emotional* needs. A shame all the way around.
@Sith'ari Azithoth she died about 2yrs after this. She died in the spring of 2012.
sharp observation
Anita Alexander She fdlt a last desperation for outside help,and was probably beaten and chastised for it after they left. Which is probably the reason for her death a short time afterwards!
Kara Amundson He didn't want to get involved in physical altercations, as he was not a fighting man. Neither am I, but I would have died trying to put that twerp punk down!!!
God Bless Miss Virgie it breaks my heart that her grandson took a hand to her I worshipped my Grandmommas shame on him
What a wonderful ministry. Unfortunately, there's always some creep waiting in the background to take advantage of other's hard work or good fortune.
The outrage is in this lady's family! Obviously by the photos on the wall she had loved ones. Shameful to let an old lady live like that.
Maybe she's a malignant narcissist who alienated her family members. We're only seeing an edited segment of her life.
@@ensignmjs7058 but we DO see a sorry moochin grandson, who has had a history of abusing her.
No matter the illness, which narcissism is diagnosed as, there's no justifying the wrongdoing of a person; neglect; or offering of redemption.
We ALL have done wrong. EVERYONE can receive redemption.
This woman was a real beauty, in her younger days. She's still pretty and has a great sense of humor.
I was thinking that same thing, ❤️ bet she was IS still Beautiful, so humble.
She has a lovely face - perfect cheekbones.
Could we get an update please?
@@joycedistler4332 She passed away in 2012.
@@karenmilligan5597 Thankyou.
This breaks my heart , it's a damn shame she's so afraid to die alone that she would have to be a victim to the parasitic effects of those that don't care about her . Special place in earth and in hell for people that would hurt an 85 year old woman.
He will probably end up with that place when she's gone
What's wrong with having your mother live with you? Shame how people dump their parents.
@@brendawilkie1330 I think you got this backwards. He is living in her brand new trailer. It was provided by her church a year ago with funds paid by those who wished her to have a proper home. She lived in a tumble down shack that was falling to pieces, and very unsafe. This young man has tried to kill her in the past. That’s why the police have been coming there to check on her.
How can any family let their mama, grandma etc. Live like that. So sad
Yeah that's what I say what was wrong with a daughter
That’s what I’m saying! There’s no way in hell I’d let my granny or mom live like that especially if I got funds. This is a no brainer to me.
I love that she still puts her hair up in victory rolls every day ❤
I live in kingsport Tennessee about 20 minutes from this place.
I am not religious at all
But this pastor seems legit among the 95% of the others.
We don't need religion to be good humans and this is humanity at its finest.
He is the kind of example of a Christian that Jesus asked of us. Christ died on the cross for our sins because He loved us so much. He paid for all our sins giving His life in place of our sins. He paid our debt in full What greater love is there than this? . All that God asks of us is that we put our faith in Jesus and ask for forgiveness and repenting of our sins. The fruit of our salvation is exactly what you see here where a true Christian man, the pastor, did great things with total humility and kindness. He IS a true man of the Lord.
I've lived many years on this Earth and seen a lot of pain and suffering in that time. I've also seen a lot more GOOD done by these so called "religious" people than just about any other group I've ever been around..I don't understand the hate towards THEM. They're genuinely interested in living to love and help others, from what I've seen.. Yet they're still disparaged. I don't get it. and I have not met any that are as horrible or judgemental or whatever the term de jour is that most ThemTube comment makers like to try to paint them to be. Go figure.
True True!
This is a good 'man'..
Teresa Reid you are perfectly right.May God bless you.
That's the problem... Religion. We're to have a relationship not, religion. Religion won't get you into God's grace or heaven. But, the relationship with Him says He knows me... Not the rules, rituals or regulations. I love You Lord, I worship and adore You. Thank You for loving me...
I loved this story.This pastor is truly a man of God. So glad to see Virgie Enjoying a comfortable home. Hope she lives many more years.
God bless this pastor.
Amen.
Oh yeah, he's doing it
Virgie looked better in the first video. Much happier with no stress. The video with her drug infested grandson was not like I expected. She looks very strained and did not look happy. So sad. Once she got her house with plumbing and a real kitchen the blood suckers always seem to attack. Even the dog looked stressed!
yes i agree even her dogs didnt bark ..looked sad
@@teresapren3266 when someone goes on druges it makes them abusive towards others.they just do:nt care ether way.virgie must of went through a lot while he was there an that poor dog too.i wonder if the daughter is still living in the new house.
Now she has a larger electric bill and more property tax and the grandson probably eats like a horse. She is worried about money now.
I agree with you, the 1rst thing i noticed was the dog stressed.
barb tanner Well said.
They should have made it a stipulation that nobody could live with her unless it was a licensed care giver.
EXACTLY!!!!!!
Exactly. He didn't want to take care of her when she was in the bad house.
Absolutely and a non relative at that!!!!!!!!!!
Wow so she has a mobile donated to her and it's on her own property that was always hers and now they should tell her none of your relatives or friends are allowed to stay on your property.
Whose property is it after all?
It is her property or theirs?
@The Ministry of Truth KMK I don't know any of them. I live in a completely different country. But I know Jesus loves that family including the grandson. He loves his girlfriend too. He wants them saved. A true man of God will love those for whom Christ died. Will care more about their eternal soul than a trailer.
Will not try to publicly shame and expose but rather will
Teach the gospel of repentance and that Jesus will forgive and cleanse from sin. He will see an opportunity to love and minister and bring healing. Be kind and gentle, merciful and compassionate.
How wonderful, thank you pastor God bless you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊
Praise God for the kind people who helped this lady . I would never let my momma live in such conditions
AMEN
I agree with you! Amen!
Sometimes elderly folks only have one handicapped child who they may still be caring for.
Unfortunately
It's a crying shame the way the grandson junked up the front deck/porch with all his greasy car and machinery parts.
Grotto Serpentina - Exactly! It could have been a nice place where she could have spend time sitting outdoors.
I thought the same,no respect, he's working on his stuff no thought of all the love and hard work that went into building it.
poor people who have never had much, can tend to "trash" things up (as we see it), but it doesn't mean as much to them, it's not the "bottom line" in their struggles.
That's a Go-Kart with the engine off an no seat I got 3 like that with the engine off but i dont keep'em on the front porch !! Keep'em way in back yard hidden fer later
Yeah notice none of his stuff was at her old shack. He was nowhere to be seen when she was living without plumbing. He seemed to appear only after she had a nice place for him to invade.
That poor women....how dare her daughter let her son move in with his grandmother after beating her.
Mary Shoemaker abuse is a scary thing, addiction is a scarier thing, mix the two...where was APS when you really needed them?
Mary Shoemaker agree with ya
My thoughts exactly!!
I thought the same thing
I agree with you! People can excuse the daughter and say it's pride or whatever, but once a person feels the warmth of a bath or hot water by just turning the faucet on, their pride will change to gratitude! No excuse for family to let one of their own live like that.
She had a Daughter and Family.How could they let that sweet old lady live like that?
Thankfully that Preacher and Jeff came along
Bless them.
Why isn't he in jail, and why are relatives allowing him to mess up the place? I agree with "Tina" that the grandmother was happier and healthier before he moved in.
He can't even get a lawn mower useless
He probably pushed her to die sooner. R.i.p Mrs. Verna.
Poor sweetheart I just want to hug her and take care of her she's so frail and weak.
I hope her last days were happy.
Wow that Pastor does not want to get involved in any personal affairs does he didn't want nobody coming knocking on his door and he's right when they did that for her he didn't know how long the old woman would have left
Now I'm going to Google Tony Curtis cup
Matthew 25:40
"That you did for the least of mine, you also did for me." I love this video.
@Nana Johnson hello there. Thank you for commenting and reminding me of this video. I remember it now. Just watched it 5 months ago so a little hazy. I think they mention where it is in the video? They sure have servants hearts.
All the wealth in this country including some churches No one should live in poverty Love to watch people being helped like this 🙏 THANK YOU
The life has left her, she looks so sad. Bless her heart
If any of you folks watching this video give donations to TV evangelist so they can get new jet airplanes or another mansion, I would urge you to STOP and begin giving to a local church who has a reputation for helping down and out people in the community. I believe that's what God expects of us.
floyd green AMEN, Brother! Just look at Houston this year. Osteen shut the doors of his megachurch and Mattress Mack sheltered people from the storm and is still helping folks. Which one is the Christian?
It was not his fault in that. They were told to evacuate.
Oh, believe me, there a lot of people who will demonstrate "Christian charity" and do all kinds of "good deeds" who will not enter heaven, because they don't know Him.
Meade Skelton Not True!
Our good works are like rags in the eyes of the Lord. People don't know the heart of Joel Olsteen, only God knows. There is no sin being rich. The sin is in loving money more than God
What a bum the grandson is.
She's terrified to say what she really wants to say about him.
Lock him down!!! for at least 20 yrs.
@86MonteSS .. I agree.. grandson has beaten her 2 times only recently before Miss Virgie got a new trailer.
Now grandson n girlfriend enter her house as Squatters just waiting for the inevitable.
Miss Virgie looks to have lost alot of weight n her wits have diminished. Dude junked-up the property n the porch is a Disaster area. Thats a shame.. plus lm sure she is in Fear of him Beating her Again.!! Very sad 😥 😞 😢
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All I could do is cry and to see what people can do for someone is amazing and I am so happy for her and the people that donated to a much brighter life... God Is Good.
Oh Lord, please bless this pastor and give him strength and perseverance as he goes about serving you and bearing witness to your will💜🙏💜🙏💜🙏💜
When I see these videos I worry about the animals more than anything else. I’m wondering if they are being fed, have a warm place to sleep and are not being abused or if they’ve been fixed and not constantly getting pregnant. In the first part there are 2 dogs running around and then later on when they revisit you only see one.
Amen thankyou hi esus for work ki ing through this earthly man to hi help others. May he be protected by you so he may continue to do your work
Grandson has trashed her home, he’s disgusting. Shame on her daughter.
Thank God he went back to prison.
This was in 2009!
So disappointing to see how torn up the place is. At this rate, she'll be back to square one very soon.
Right? And the daughter raised him? Sheesh
One day the church people gonna stand before God to answer for why they despised this grandson He died for.
I loved what the Pastor said about not getting into her families business obviously he is a good person not only for helping her get a nice safe home but by respecting her privacy, God makes miracles happen everyday in other lives as well as others, slowing down and taking the time to notice this means everything to me,I'm so grateful to the Lord for bringing me to this channel twice by accident to see that I have so very much to be grateful for and that just waking up warm and in a clean safe home is a miracle that manifests itself everyday of my life, we can't take anything for granted in this unstable World, just being able to hear the birds chirping and a blue sky is a miracle,I don't know I've come to appreciate so many things I've seen so much, been threw so much but in my heart the one thing that never has failed me is the feeling that God truly loves me and has never and will never abandoned me, I love him so much. No matter how much I've cry he will comfort me, God brought that Pastor into Mama Truddies life, to give her a well deserved home for being humble and kind..love the way she said Yuollll come back now...oh so cute! And he will take that grandson and put him where he deserves to be if he even dares ever touch push or treats her badly ever again, I pray that ,In the name of Jesus, AMEN
Getting involved with domestic problems will get you killed really quick. That grandson had been involved in a lot of violence. At the end of the video, he was back in prison for stabbing two men in his family.
Thank you God for showing me this today. This pastor is a true servant of God.
I noticed Virgie looked anxious and upset when her grandson started talking. Looked like a deer in the headlights. I think she was scared of him.
19:56 it says the grandson has a history of violence *against her* omg
21:00 it says in 1998 and 2002 he was arrested for beating up on her.
His own grandmother!
What motive could they have for publicly humiliating somebody for something they claim happened roughly twenty years ago??
Instead of loving, being kind and showing mercy and caring about his soul and wanting him to understand the mercy and grace found in Jesus?
To know why Jesus died and rise again?
Matthew 9:12-14
King James Version
12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance
Should have been leading both to Jesus.
Matthew 9:12-14
King James Version
12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance
Such a humble beautiful woman. That smile is incredible.
I noticed that she had actually deteriorated instead of improving after getting the new home. Can't help to think the boy has something to do with it.
Exactly, she looked completely depleted of energy and peace.
I noticed the same thing. and only a years time...
The first visit after she had moved in, I noticed she had gained some weight and seemed very happy. The last visit she had lost weight and looked unhappy and scared. She didn't say much nor did she smile which she had done before.
@@joannemiddaugh122 he/They was MISTREATING HER.. 😔
She caught a cold while they were building and with all the mental anguish of people moving your things and getting use to a new environment must've also taken a toll
I am warm, fed, and have everything I need and more. She is so happy being alive and seeing people. Myself, I am so incredibly unhappy and depressed. Goes to show........
That grandson sounds like he's speaking a foreign language. I'm a southerner born & bred and I can't understand 2 words out of 10 from him.
Marty Mahem That's really strange I'm in born and bred in England UK and I can understand him ... maybe it's years of watching The king of the hill lol
Southern and Appalachian are definitely different. Appalachian tends to roll into a kind of grumble.
lisette la chat 😂😂😂😂😂
@@lisettelachat1870 The damn grandson sounded like boomhauer at one point.
The Southern accent and the Appalachian accent are very different. I can understand them but it's because I've lived in Appalachia.
Rev. Sheldon, you have a pure heart ! Your kindness and caring for others is remarkable !
You have a very special place reserved for you in heaven, I truly believe this !
Screaming to the top of my lungs a disgrace that lady is not protected and that grandson should be locked up for good God protect her cuz she needs you
It's July 2021..... This was a beautiful documentary, RIP Ms Virgie. Hopefully the home was donated to another family or elderly person/persons in need.
That's a wonderful thought. I really hope it goes to someone in need like she was.
Her countenance changed, from when she lived by herself, and when her grandson now lives with her. She smiled and talked before, very sweet smile and laugh, now it's gone.
Bless your heart for everything you did for her!!
I could handle the grandson........I'm an old prison guard. He shouldn't have been allowed near her after assaulting her. At least in my State that's the law.
I grew up in a small southern town and even as late as the 60's and 70's you would run across a very old home that had dirt floors. I remember being shocked that people could live in a house with dirt floors. It's hard to believe that in many places we are only a couple of generations past abject poverty. When many marry now they expect to own a new house with all the amenities and luxuries that their parents may have worked decades for.
@Patriot Jefferson Amen! I hauled water to and from my well BY CHOICE. I will be adding lanterns and an outhouse this winter BY CHOICE. I've had the fancy corporate jobs and they were nothing but a merry go round of headaches.
Thank goodness for this kind minister. It's amazing how she has lived here without the bare necessities but doesn't complain or seem bitter. Just a sweet, caring older lady. God Bless her. I see she has family pictures on the wall. Precious.
God Bless all who helped her!
Families are strange, there are always moochers in every family...
You know this was 7 years ago. The church was awesome for what they helped do!!!! And we all know the grandson is s pos!!!! There should of had family or someone to protect her if the pos was hitting her! So so sad. Wonder what has happened this many years in the future?
@@robinhager1989 they probably turned that home into a crack house, my opinion. I`d like to see an update.
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everyone is a moocher. Families need each other. Every family is different and needs help in many different ways. What is strange to you is not so strange to another. When a family member needs something then there either is someone to help provide or they will have to get it themselves or do without.
Yes! They couldn’t wait til she got her new place. Where were they when she was in the old house.
The entire House of Representatives and the Senate need to be made to sit and watch this.
Cedar Gardens They may not care at all. Like many of the people on this comment section blame her for her condition. "She has probably lived like that all her life." Etc etc...
The saddest part about this story is that she was prob happier in her old house without her junkie grandson abusing herb. I hope she found peace.
Why didn't Virgie's grandson stay with her and "help" when she was living in that miserable shack. He conveniently moves in with her to "help" now. Why does Virgie look more frail and unhappy than she did before? He got arrested before for beating and mistreating her. I don't trust him at all. Smh
She did seem happier in the before facts. But I think she doesn't want to say it.
Did anyone notice she had a black eye?
I suspect he was in jail most of the time.
«Now» was in 2009/2010... ☺️
He was locked up, that's why
Since the grandson is in need of a place to stay let him live in her old house... It will match his demeanor
Frog Gigger Yes!!! Perfect!!
Or let him live in Prison where he Belongs!!
He quickly moved in the trailer! No where around when she was in the house. I bet any kind of money he was doing drugs! Already got the outside of the house looking ratchet! Abusing his grandmother! Smh
Frog Gigger I agree cause where was he at when she lived in that old house and was in need of help?
Frog Gigger oh he’ll trash her new home no doubt about that he’s a damn freeloader and needs to be in prison for what he did to her
Virgie's children and the grandson are products of their upbringing. The cycle continues. This pastor did the best he could and the world would be a better place if there were more people like him.
Moe Wilson ...i totally agree...its like she brought it on herself...people treat u as u allow to be treated
Pat jacobs, how can the elderly fight back?
Moe Wilson ...im just saying..maybe she didn't disipline her children or wasn't a responsible parent ...neglectful parents raise neglectful children...you have to look at both sidez...there is always,a reason why people treat their parents the way they do...but it's still not right either way....
Pat jacobs, and only she's been charged with that then maybe she didn't.
Pat jacobs You're ignorant. The Grandmother didn't deserve to beat beaten by her grandson no matter what.
This pastor is such a beautiful soul.