The "Underbelly" series is a really good look at this era in Melbourne. In Australia it's on Stan TV. Other great stories in the set include Sqizzy Taylor of Melbourne in the 30s and The Golden Mile, Kings Cross Sydney in the 80s and 90s. Hope you find them somewhere, cheers from Melbourne.
In hindsight, knowing about Nicola Gobbo and the overt corruption at VicPol... This is just plain embarrassing. What's more embarrassing is the culture which allowed all this to flourish, hasn't got better, it's got far, far worse.
Finished watching Lawyer X doco and just found out Zara Garde-Wilson was a girlfriend of Lewis Caine. Wouldn't be worth mentioning if it wasn't for Garde-Wilson's appearance in multiple media investigations and docos voicing her disgust over Gobbo's personal involvement with her clients and the ethics of mixing business with pleasure. Right-e-oh.
Birds of a feather do indeed flock together. These particular birds also bash each other, shoot each other, betray each other, inform on each other and generally ruin each other's lives because their one common character trait above all is idiocy.
It is interesting like. I'm from Scotland n before this hit itv about 2009 or there-abouts, I like a lot of others had the 'neighbours' view of Melbourne.
@@sevipek5857 your demise is just around the corner im from st Kilda i run the manor high ranking brits everywhere ex bl aggers /pavement artists from South london
@@StewartBriggs-yn2xz cause your easily led i bet you were straight out of the starting blocks to get the clot shot like a f----------g whippet 🐩🐩🐩🐩🐩🐩🐩🐩😃😃😃🤣😂😎
@@boostedls24 ah trying to free slaves in the 1850s and being involved in extortion prostitution drug dealing and murder in the late 20th century are 2 different things entirely
Mr Williams got his just desserts, he thought he was untouchable and found out the hard way that nobody is untouchable, everyone in the police force or in jail can be bought for a price
That little crime war cleaned the streets of scum. They all turned on each other in their greed & paranoia. Now most of them are dead now & we all feel safer here for it
I find that comment that Carl looked like a kid next door and not a bad sociopath is absolutely abuserd. If you go back to the 5 families in new York they did not look like killers they looked like dad's and uncles and grandpa. It's not yr body it's the mind that is evil. A lot of serial killels look like handsome men that don't need to rape and kill but again it's the mind and personality that is evil. Do you actually think a bad person looks on the outside like a vampire or something,this is one thing that makes we wonder how you can say such a ignorant statement. I did five years in prison in the 90s and yes there are those tough guys you can tell but there were guys that looks harmless that were as brutal as the hard men. It's the mind man not the body.
@@Elguapo93 Exactly I agree , gatto is old school like chopper reid to smart to get shot. Gatto did Melbourne a service by killing veniman , like gatto said to him u killed Dibra and PK? when gatto had the meeting with carl and veniman he should've killed them both then and there war ended lol. I liked how carl set up nick Radev to b killed by veniman he was more than a nutcase worse than gangitano those 2 actually deserved to be shot
This period I remember so well as im50 years old and I remember it so well man it was seriously bad shit that double hit at the footy field was just so disturbing.
Gatto killed Benji for killing Graham! Gatto set him up anybody who has lived that kind of life can plainly see what happened it’s pretty obvious! And power to him Benji was a dog who murdered his own friends!
Absolutely crazy what went on during that time, some absolute ruthless careless people & alot of corruption within the groups.. Mick gatto is still kicking it strong, probably the only one to survive this absolute crazy time, the underworld war was fucking crazy 🤯
I'd never heard the theory of Vermin not having a gun on him because of constant surveillance, at the same time Mick Gatto comes across as a pragmatic bloke having survived this long, you would hardly think he'd kill someone in his hangout, makes you think though.
My oldmans from Kensington and he says if these blokes where here today theses Sudanese gangs and all these stupid gangs would've been hiding in there houses scared not knowing what's to come Melbourne has changed a whole lot i wish these guys where still alive like Alphonse and that atkeast our cummintys would be safe and no one would fuck around good bye old Melbourne
@@mickmangles8000 exactly man it's gets me so annoyed because I was a kid in those times and I felt protected from these older bloke they looked after the kids and they looked after our elders that's how it's ment to be unless you where a pedophile you wouldn't have to go to the cops these blokes would've have sorted it out and no one would have gotten a wifed of it.
Lol they come from war torn countries i hink they've seen a lot worse tham what melbs can produce lol id say they could think of worst ways to kill you too
@@BensonAndHedgers I know who the runner is, i actually know someone that was in the same unit as him in port phillip for a short time. The man was certainly a crims crim
@@anonamus7404 yeah bro i seen him at Barwon years ago before it all happened, crazy fuckin eyes thats for sure!!! He was in that casino scuffle amongst Carl etc!
Denise Gore I think the could have cast Carl’s character a bit better too, he was certainly a lot of things, but not the bumbling retard he was made out to be in underbelly. To be honest if he had just put his time and effort into legitimate business he wouldn’t been a success
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
35 years is nothing. He will be out to do some more "cleaning up" . Typical Australian justice. Oh just read he got beaten to death in jail. No more cleaning then.
No shit I was on a tram heading into Brunswick and got stopped by the SoGs minutes after Lew was shot. A few years later I was headed to ascot vale shops and witnessed Tuppence die, small world on that side of Melbourne….
Most criminals & gangsters, have one thing in common their either in jail or dead. NOW Mark Chopper Read he died surrounded by loved ones! .. Dangerous wouldn't want to have to be, looking over my shoulder all the time. BUT I do enjoy watching this stuff.
Honestly, it doesn't seem worth it. The paranoia, the stress, the guilt. And all of it ending in either getting killed or worse, getting locked in a cell for years or even life.
@@MrAustruck Ok maybe everything he said wasn't all accurate 100% but i do believe it when he said he chopped his ears off and the story of how he got his scars all over his body
Karl liked fast things, too bad he didn't use his mind the same way and think of all the angles before he acted or gave orders. That is the one lesson that none of these wanna be's seem to take from Hollywood and the media, and that is that you keep your cards close to your chest and never let them know what you are thinking, just like in the Godfather when Vito admonished Sonny for showing to much emotion and interest in something that Vito hadn't said he would get involved in only a few hours before the meeting with Salotso to discuss getting the protection and finance for the deal. The lesson is that you should know your enemies are all around you in the life you have chosen, so you should never underestimate what they could (and will) do and never completely trust them either because unlike the old school criminals who had been kept in line with the knowledge that no one man is more important than the operation and kept most of the work out of the public eye, the new ones seem to think that it is all about the publicity and notoriety while the smart ones avoid publicity like the plague and try to keep their name and whatever,'s going on as far from each other as possible. And you don't need to guess who will last longer in the life when you have drop kicks like Carl becoming big players and idiots like Benji running around shooting every so called enemy so publicly and, just for good measure, sleeping with his bosses wife as well. Shakespearean, yes, intelligent and well planned by the protagonists, NOOO.
You probably can if you look up the title of this doc on google. TH-cam has a lot of bad quality docs to get around the copyright issues but copyright is a lot easier to get around on other smaller websites.
A criminal is 1 sided . A cop that is corrupt is a messenger playing both sides . Biggest dog of all . A corrupt cop only thinking of himself and no team . Wide open on either end . 🤣🤣🤣
Pity they didn't cover the other , lesser known crims in the Melbourne Underworld; The Dirty Don, Popsy Peterson, Big Eric Martin, Tricky Dicky and the such..
Bejamin Parker I’m English, and £50 for a gram was standard. Not here, mate. It’s so hard to get into the country, it’s expensive, so people go on the Meth. Bad drug, meth. You can tell them a mile away. If it comes to the UK.....STAY WELL AWAY FROM IT. it’s poison.
@Bejamin Parker because UK is just a hop skip and a jump from alot of countries. France ,Germany,Holland etc etc neighbours with the whole of Europe.. but Australia is isolated and very strict and has well established law enforcement.. would be ALOT harder than the UK to get drugs in. High risk high price.
There was plenty of coke and smack in Sydney and Melbourne in the 1920s, drugs are nothing new. Squizzy Taylor shot Snowy Cutmore because he was bouncing dealers and that was a hundred years ago. They got more than one thing wrong.
It still fascinates me that all this actually happened in Australia and isn’t American crime drama show. Also why does the time stamp in the bottom right corner of the video when it’s not playing say it’s 2hrs but the actual video is only an hour?
The challenge is to have enough sense to realise drugs are part of society and have always been .the challenge is to realise corruption will always be part of the criminal world ..the real challenge is to realise as long as drug remain in the criminal world and remain illegal this will always be the result .legalise drugs and deal with the same issues you have to now without the murder , corruption,and misery the drug trade not the drug causes .this is the result of man's greed and lack of respect for human life not drugs
@@MentokTheMindTaker gangs exist because of enormous profits in illegal drugs and the evidence in Portugal says you can cut drug related crime by 90 percent the gang would have no money or reason to be a gang . violence is not drug related
Same result drugs when taken out of the black market crime violence gangs are all reduced and all have positive results drugs don't hurt people .people hurt people
It's not half obvious chopper is a liar. He's shits on everyone whos dead like he's the tougher gangster. Chopper not much better than someone with brain damage telling lame stories no one can prove is true.
After they had taken each other out. Chopper was full of shit. When the gangland war was happening. Chopper was hiding In tasmania . He came back when the ones who had a contract out on him . Took each other out. Chopper was a dog. Who bailed from H division
Carl Williams was truely an amazing wild card. Say what you will about his appearance or his cognitive ability; the most unsuspecting individual was the last man standing. Probably the worst thing he did was think that he was untouchable. I am in awe at how big such a simple bloke became what he became. There are 'legitimate' individuals that do much worse to honest and normal people. I am sure none of us were complaining when we wanted 'pingers' in the toilet at the clubs we frequented.
Your a fool if you think that way. You seem to have been caught up in the gritty glamour television did to this pathetic turd. Carl Williams was a DOG.
My favorite documentaries to watch... the mob was ruthless but I can say these teens in Baltimore city where I live are more ruthless and will kill for a dollar . Stra8 up 💯.
maybe more ruthless but would not stand a chance if they messed with the wrong gangster , who would watch and wait and watch and wait untill the time was perfect then you be dead . you can not be very smart if you kill for $1. and everyone around such a person must be a low life who can not even be trusted by there own gang family or friends
And just remember . The lone wolf is a million times more dangerous than any gang. Gangs talk too much . Lone wolf does shit on his own and then makes a wolf pack.
@Ed Kelly yeah your right but I aint talking about these guys at all . Just a lone wolf in general can do alot more damage and no one will ever know lol
He isn't a lone wolf when he starts his own pack, he's just a dangerous coward who is hiding behind his freinds or gang members so they can do the dirty jobs, he doesn't want to get caught so he will snitch and go cop shopping for the best deal for him, in other words just a sell out and not worth the time or effort, not worth wasting my breath on worthless scumbags and imbecile criminals
The batch that fell apart due to lack of binding agent, if u think about it they could still sell it, am sure the user's wouldn't mind, as long as the E's were decent it'd make no difference to them if it was powder. However the supplier's wouldn't have made as much so instead we all know what they went an done.
Ade H Dude Barwon prison is Geelong prison . As the old prison closed around 1990s . I was in Geelong hospital children's ward for 6 weeks in 1985 in Myer st Geelong the jail I could see out my window . mark read was housed there during the 80s as well that brings in the tourist . Barwon prison is now Geelong's prison yes plural as there are two side by side now . And the old Geelong Hospital is Called Barwon Health . Cheers .
I saw more strength, honesty, integrity...and yes even vulnerability in some of the highest ranking cops than any self serving double speaking politician
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Needs more slow motion footage of people walking.
This should have 7 million likes
Shut up MAN why dont u make something
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😂😂
I'm walking here!
"They thought the Sopranos was a documentary"
Carl Williams never had the makings of a varsity gangster lol
You know nothing
@@underworldringside Reeeeeeeeeeee suck it up buttercup.
Said by a total fool
They got there mob ideas from the real mobsters in America 🤣🤣🤣 bodymore murderland 💯 means baltimore city maryland
@@usastrong8088 how is that a flex?
This hasn't aged too well for Simon Overland...
@Thomas Price he's corrupt also
Simon Underground*
What's the tldr?
The "Underbelly" series is a really good look at this era in Melbourne. In Australia it's on Stan TV. Other great stories in the set include Sqizzy Taylor of Melbourne in the 30s and The Golden Mile, Kings Cross Sydney in the 80s and 90s. Hope you find them somewhere, cheers from Melbourne.
In hindsight, knowing about Nicola Gobbo and the overt corruption at VicPol... This is just plain embarrassing. What's more embarrassing is the culture which allowed all this to flourish, hasn't got better, it's got far, far worse.
The likelihood is if Carl Willam s kept his word to the runner the runner would of kept his mouth shut.very dumb to short change a hitman.🤣🤣🤣
Got that right 👉
You have a great eye for detail Andrew R.great story.
andrew pendlebury his podcast is amazing I recommend it for sure
@@anonamus7404 what’s the name again of that podcast?
Finished watching Lawyer X doco and just found out Zara Garde-Wilson was a girlfriend of Lewis Caine. Wouldn't be worth mentioning if it wasn't for Garde-Wilson's appearance in multiple media investigations and docos voicing her disgust over Gobbo's personal involvement with her clients and the ethics of mixing business with pleasure. Right-e-oh.
Pot calling the kettle black
It's featured in underbelly
@@tyronemalone4158 fair nuff
Friends of clients too
@@tyronemalone4158 exactly mate.
Oh dear Simone Overland looks dodgy AF in 2021 after the royal commission into solicitor X.
Having grown up around criminals and having watched a ton of interviews with mafia guys I can confirm that criminals are idiots.
Having been associated and assualted by thugs..I agree
They all seem to shoot EACHOTHER gangsters
Lol you don’t say.. that’s why there’s only either jail or death or you could say both 🤣
Birds of a feather do indeed flock together. These particular birds also bash each other, shoot each other, betray each other, inform on each other and generally ruin each other's lives because their one common character trait above all is idiocy.
You need to be come a cop first then your sweet to do as you please.
I cannot let go of this story.. im obsessed
Try living it as a memory………
🤐
@@Euphoricjoe oh dear
It is interesting like. I'm from Scotland n before this hit itv about 2009 or there-abouts, I like a lot of others had the 'neighbours' view of Melbourne.
@@sevipek5857 your demise is just around the corner im from st Kilda i run the manor high ranking brits everywhere ex bl aggers /pavement artists from South london
@@StewartBriggs-yn2xz cause your easily led i bet you were straight out of the starting blocks to get the clot shot like a f----------g whippet 🐩🐩🐩🐩🐩🐩🐩🐩😃😃😃🤣😂😎
Never fails to disgust me when honor among criminals is talked about
Oh pipe down. Harriett Tubman tried to free slaves, she was considered a criminal in the 1850s for doing so. Was that not honourable ?
What’s the difference with McDonald’s? Same shit selling different whit still taking people out
There is no honor among criminals it is a ridiculous notion created by criminals to cover their scumbag deeds!!
@@boostedls24 ah trying to free slaves in the 1850s and being involved in extortion prostitution drug dealing and murder in the late 20th century are 2 different things entirely
@@boostedls24 and yes what she did was honorable
the guy in the end knew something that eventuated for Carl. "if he is lucky to get out, if he's lucky? Well he wasn't so lucky!
Rico Had inside Contacts??
I think he means, because after his time served he was up for parole which could have been rejected.
Thanks 😊 Hi I'm Troy from NSW Newcastle I find this Documentary very interesting . I'm very interested in knowing when This Documentary was made .
Doco was made in 2009, it’s why some of the interviewees couldn’t say who was involved with certain things as they were awaiting trial at the time
One thing i still can't get my head around is how much Dakota looks like Carl in a wig. I know genes can be strong but wooooooah.
Little did we know then that Simon was one of the ppl that helped “ lawyer x” to thrive. She changed a lot of things in this world
Notice how things...Have gone very quiet on this!
Mr Williams got his just desserts, he thought he was untouchable and found out the hard way that nobody is untouchable, everyone in the police force or in jail can be bought for a price
Simone voice was like sandpaper nothing worse than a hard aussie chick
What did she change exactly?
I wouldn't Trust the C#nt as far as i could kick him
That little crime war cleaned the streets of scum. They all turned on each other in their greed & paranoia. Now most of them are dead now & we all feel safer here for it
the 'self-cleaning-oven'.....
The old saying “stick ya head above the crowd it’ll get knocked off “
I find that comment that Carl looked like a kid next door and not a bad sociopath is absolutely abuserd. If you go back to the 5 families in new York they did not look like killers they looked like dad's and uncles and grandpa. It's not yr body it's the mind that is evil. A lot of serial killels look like handsome men that don't need to rape and kill but again it's the mind and personality that is evil. Do you actually think a bad person looks on the outside like a vampire or something,this is one thing that makes we wonder how you can say such a ignorant statement. I did five years in prison in the 90s and yes there are those tough guys you can tell but there were guys that looks harmless that were as brutal as the hard men. It's the mind man not the body.
Look at Ted Bundy
Brilliant response buddy.
Gatto being the guy to kill Benji screams out police informant. The whole meetup was a setup to kill a roaming assassin
I reckon gatto just called him up told him he's welcome anytime and when he finally shows up just killed him
I don't care what anyone says. Gatto is a protected informant. Has been for many many years
@@Elguapo93 Exactly I agree , gatto is old school like chopper reid to smart to get shot. Gatto did Melbourne a service by killing veniman , like gatto said to him u killed Dibra and PK? when gatto had the meeting with carl and veniman he should've killed them both then and there war ended lol. I liked how carl set up nick Radev to b killed by veniman he was more than a nutcase worse than gangitano those 2 actually deserved to be shot
@@tyronemalone4158 so was Chopper
Choppers a fukn wankjob!!!!
This period I remember so well as im50 years old and I remember it so well man it was seriously bad shit that double hit at the footy field was just so disturbing.
Gatto killed Benji for killing Graham! Gatto set him up anybody who has lived that kind of life can plainly see what happened it’s pretty obvious! And power to him Benji was a dog who murdered his own friends!
It’s worst than ever now because it’s people of higher powers from Overseas with diplomatic immunity
Victoria hasn’t had a decent police commissioner in so long !!!
I don't even know who Qlds is 🤷♀️
Absolutely crazy what went on during that time, some absolute ruthless careless people & alot of corruption within the groups.. Mick gatto is still kicking it strong, probably the only one to survive this absolute crazy time, the underworld war was fucking crazy 🤯
Hahaha yeah and now days in Melbourne underworld figures are shot dead in the middle of the street broad daylight
The only one still alive that you know about.
What's that tell you.
Corruption and crime are not a thing if the past mate, it just carries on with some new players, but the old firm never folds.
are you related to Carl Williams
30:25 This is where Nicola Gobbo (lawyer X) became a police informant....
Big gobbo!
Gibbo used to be damn sexy!
I'd never heard the theory of Vermin not having a gun on him because of constant surveillance, at the same time Mick Gatto comes across as a pragmatic bloke having survived this long, you would hardly think he'd kill someone in his hangout, makes you think though.
Yup.. Mick killed Benji cuz he thought he was the one who killed the munster. But Benji didnt do that murder.
@@badgurl5758 faurk orman shot.
Correct
@@badgurl5758 and how do you know? lol
@@badgurl5758 Mick didn't shoot Andrew, you read a book, or watch a terrible Production! Were you there? Snap out of it.
So, I wonder what ever happened to Carl Will........OH MY GOD! As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
My oldmans from Kensington and he says if these blokes where here today theses Sudanese gangs and all these stupid gangs would've been hiding in there houses scared not knowing what's to come Melbourne has changed a whole lot i wish these guys where still alive like Alphonse and that atkeast our cummintys would be safe and no one would fuck around good bye old Melbourne
Melbourne is fucked now ...WTF were they thinking ?
@@mickmangles8000 exactly man it's gets me so annoyed because I was a kid in those times and I felt protected from these older bloke they looked after the kids and they looked after our elders that's how it's ment to be unless you where a pedophile you wouldn't have to go to the cops these blokes would've have sorted it out and no one would have gotten a wifed of it.
Lol they come from war torn countries i hink they've seen a lot worse tham what melbs can produce lol id say they could think of worst ways to kill you too
What suburb r u in? I'm on the very east of Melb & so far not as hectic as say the westside, Dandy etc...
A good programme.
“They don’t even bother goin near the runner”... before this point in time he had never made a statement, ever.
That's right don't go making staments to police it's not wise
@@BensonAndHedgers I know who the runner is, i actually know someone that was in the same unit as him in port phillip for a short time. The man was certainly a crims crim
@@anonamus7404 yeah bro i seen him at Barwon years ago before it all happened, crazy fuckin eyes thats for sure!!! He was in that casino scuffle amongst Carl etc!
@@BensonAndHedgers do you know Rodney hardy?
@@anonamus7404 nope, i don't mate!
Whoever cast Underbelly did a pretty decent job, with the exception of Alphonse Gangitano.
Denise Gore I think the could have cast Carl’s character a bit better too, he was certainly a lot of things, but not the bumbling retard he was made out to be in underbelly.
To be honest if he had just put his time and effort into legitimate business he wouldn’t been a success
Stefan Struhs they should have used the actor from the movie Snowtown
I think Collisomo was best in it!
Yeah he looks more like Robert form everyone loves Raymond
Nah,Colosimo owned it. Roberta Williams casting wrecked it. Great actor,but so off physically.
Whats the Tracks in the Background, I like the sound of it. is's very ominous
Pece blino ...blue to red
@@rayban5737 Thanks cuz
Crazy Gatto survived this and is still alive
Only the smart survive 👌🏼 Gatto is still a humble king to this day.
IASMX2
coz he was and is a real one. he was an example of one of the very FEW smart ones
@@damienpattel3081 he didn't rip anyone
Unfortunately
Carl Liked fast money, fast women & Obviously Fast food bahaha 😂😂
Don't we all at our base level
Fast death to
Ha… and you enjoy kids toy guns…
I know who’s life I would have rather lived 😂
@@damienpattel3081 Carl’s life… not really. Mick Gatto’s life… sure, why not… money, power, respect, fear and survivor.
@@lexluthor1744 😆😅😮💨😬 Damn....U didn't have to do him like that!😏 1 has to respect the petty!👌🏾🤘🏾
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
I tattoo mick gatto back in 2016 in Carlton very humbling experience
For 90s. The crew, Sunshine boys, and pizza shop owner, when worked together, mate they had locked down then. For a while...?
"If he's lucky?"...Williams was murdered in prison in 2010.
think this was made before he got wacked
Alphonse was gunned down in his house in Templestowe , a suburb where I lived at the time.
35 years is nothing. He will be out to do some more "cleaning up" . Typical Australian justice. Oh just read he got beaten to death in jail. No more cleaning then.
No mention of Mokbel?
Any chance theres a high definition version?
Big Mick lost a bit of credibility by claiming that there was no 'Carlton Crew'
Why would he admit to being associated to a known criminal gang?
No shit I was on a tram heading into Brunswick and got stopped by the SoGs minutes after Lew was shot. A few years later I was headed to ascot vale shops and witnessed Tuppence die, small world on that side of Melbourne….
That’s crazy Carl Williams had live in the the Broadmeadows flats/brox and had the pill press their 😂
Next door to me not at the sane time broady flats. F c
The old lady said gee he washers a lot of clothes why is the washing machine always on even at 1am
So, how did that prison sentence work out for you then, Carl..?
Carl?
CARL!??
Now his wife and daughter are doing Onlyfans to survive 😂😂
Most criminals & gangsters, have one thing in common their either in jail or dead. NOW Mark Chopper Read he died surrounded by loved ones! .. Dangerous wouldn't want to have to be, looking over my shoulder all the time. BUT I do enjoy watching this stuff.
Honestly, it doesn't seem worth it. The paranoia, the stress, the guilt. And all of it ending in either getting killed or worse, getting locked in a cell for years or even life.
Could have cancer die tmoz mazewell live 4 today not tmoz life is borrowed so own it do wtf u wanna regardless
chopper was a storyteller ,good at that anyway
@@MrAustruck Ok maybe everything he said wasn't all accurate 100% but i do believe it when he said he chopped his ears off and the story of how he got his scars all over his body
@@samneves1637 Chopped his ears off cause the rest of the jail wanted him dead. Did it to get a transfer. Chopper was a just a bullshit artist .
When he says "I'd kill for a vanilla slice" he means a payment doesn't he or a clean sheet.
Man, Australia is nuts......it's a Jungle out there. hehehehe😁
Karl liked fast things, too bad he didn't use his mind the same way and think of all the angles before he acted or gave orders. That is the one lesson that none of these wanna be's seem to take from Hollywood and the media, and that is that you keep your cards close to your chest and never let them know what you are thinking, just like in the Godfather when Vito admonished Sonny for showing to much emotion and interest in something that Vito hadn't said he would get involved in only a few hours before the meeting with Salotso to discuss getting the protection and finance for the deal. The lesson is that you should know your enemies are all around you in the life you have chosen, so you should never underestimate what they could (and will) do and never completely trust them either because unlike the old school criminals who had been kept in line with the knowledge that no one man is more important than the operation and kept most of the work out of the public eye, the new ones seem to think that it is all about the publicity and notoriety while the smart ones avoid publicity like the plague and try to keep their name and whatever,'s going on as far from each other as possible. And you don't need to guess who will last longer in the life when you have drop kicks like Carl becoming big players and idiots like Benji running around shooting every so called enemy so publicly and, just for good measure, sleeping with his bosses wife as well. Shakespearean, yes, intelligent and well planned by the protagonists, NOOO.
Lol “he’s a hot dog seller so it doesn’t take too much to work out what else he is selling” lol 😂 onions, cola , sachet of tomatoes sauce ....
I heard there is gona be a new Underbelly series with Marshal, it's apparently called The Hot Dog Don.😆😆😆
Wish i could find this in good quality
You probably can if you look up the title of this doc on google. TH-cam has a lot of bad quality docs to get around the copyright issues but copyright is a lot easier to get around on other smaller websites.
Gobbo gave them everything and everybody. She is in hiding now.
Gobbo the Cop dick gobbler
Well Carl got knocked off in prison, so all's well that ends well.
I was surprised that Sucker Punch co-star Abbie Cornish is Australian.
The terror to be beaten to death by a showroom prize exercise bike from Wheel Of Fortune .. hahaha what a funny way to go. No deal !
A criminal is 1 sided . A cop that is corrupt is a messenger playing both sides . Biggest dog of all . A corrupt cop only thinking of himself and no team . Wide open on either end . 🤣🤣🤣
They all lived such a long successful lives lol
There had always been gangland violence
Carl had some luck, the devil wanted to create a new breed of criminals baby faced, but then couldn't make it inside.
This narrator has a lovely voice.
hear no evil see no evil speak no evil
But a lot of evil
You must be blind dumb and deaf then?lol
Your well worth one
There was no Carlton crew there was the Carlton mafia with Don Gatto as the capo.
😂😂 🤡
Pity they didn't cover the other , lesser known crims in the Melbourne Underworld; The Dirty Don, Popsy Peterson, Big Eric Martin, Tricky Dicky and the such..
Dirty Dan
Grown men kissing each other like they're in the mafia, these seem like two bob gangsters that got lucky with selling Es
not even E's ,a ephedrine concoction that passed as E's
@Bejamin Parker 300 a g for 20% pure is pretty standard here in AUS.
Bejamin Parker I’m English, and £50 for a gram was standard. Not here, mate. It’s so hard to get into the country, it’s expensive, so people go on the Meth. Bad drug, meth. You can tell them a mile away. If it comes to the UK.....STAY WELL AWAY FROM IT. it’s poison.
@Bejamin Parker because UK is just a hop skip and a jump from alot of countries. France ,Germany,Holland etc etc neighbours with the whole of Europe.. but Australia is isolated and very strict and has well established law enforcement.. would be ALOT harder than the UK to get drugs in. High risk high price.
No worries big player
Awesome ❤
painters and dockers was 60s,70s and 80s but more 70s and 80s
There was plenty of coke and smack in Sydney and Melbourne in the 1920s, drugs are nothing new. Squizzy Taylor shot Snowy Cutmore because he was bouncing dealers and that was a hundred years ago.
They got more than one thing wrong.
@@jameslawrie3807 There painters and dockers was lot later then that
I grew up in Footscray and my grandfather was the backstreet king of two up and SP bookie
And ?
I grew up in Footscray and my grandfather was a carpenter .
@@patappleton6285 LOL....
Backdoor king of two in the mouth and one down south in the public toilet at Footscray Park is more like it.
Make that backdoor queen lol
Chopper Read.... forgot about him
Some DOME on that Overland that's a fivehead
My mate and i left sportsbar 50 mins b4 the bad attack only cause there wasnt much woman or else .......................
Alphones robert from everyone loves raymond
Alphones sell mobiles champ.
It still fascinates me that all this actually happened in Australia and isn’t American crime drama show. Also why does the time stamp in the bottom right corner of the video when it’s not playing say it’s 2hrs but the actual video is only an hour?
move the rock your under 🤣🤣🤣
The challenge is to have enough sense to realise drugs are part of society and have always been .the challenge is to realise corruption will always be part of the criminal world ..the real challenge is to realise as long as drug remain in the criminal world and remain illegal this will always be the result .legalise drugs and deal with the same issues you have to now without the murder , corruption,and misery the drug trade not the drug causes .this is the result of man's greed and lack of respect for human life not drugs
Lmao you can't just legalise your way out of violent gang activity
@@MentokTheMindTaker gangs exist because of enormous profits in illegal drugs and the evidence in Portugal says you can cut drug related crime by 90 percent the gang would have no money or reason to be a gang . violence is not drug related
@@nooffence7670 Portugal doesn't have legalisation it has decriminalization, there's a difference
Same result drugs when taken out of the black market crime violence gangs are all reduced and all have positive results drugs don't hurt people .people hurt people
Turned out Carl was NOT lucky
Chopper always appears on every documentary
It's not half obvious chopper is a liar. He's shits on everyone whos dead like he's the tougher gangster. Chopper not much better than someone with brain damage telling lame stories no one can prove is true.
He still maintained a number of contacts in the underworld until the day he died.
After they had taken each other out. Chopper was full of shit. When the gangland war was happening. Chopper was hiding In tasmania . He came back when the ones who had a contract out on him . Took each other out. Chopper was a dog. Who bailed from H division
A good story teller was chopper, never let the truth get in the way
@@underalions2023 you have no idea
Bertie sounds like he’s got more history than these cops. Lol
No doubt Bertie Boy will.
The truth behind Benji's murder really comes down to would Benji be stupid enough to 'carry' while out on bail and the po-po up his ass?
Carl Williams was truely an amazing wild card. Say what you will about his appearance or his cognitive ability; the most unsuspecting individual was the last man standing. Probably the worst thing he did was think that he was untouchable. I am in awe at how big such a simple bloke became what he became. There are 'legitimate' individuals that do much worse to honest and normal people. I am sure none of us were complaining when we wanted 'pingers' in the toilet at the clubs we frequented.
Did not last long, fhat in itself would show he was not very smart.
Your a fool if you think that way. You seem to have been caught up in the gritty glamour television did to this pathetic turd. Carl Williams was a DOG.
My favorite documentaries to watch... the mob was ruthless but I can say these teens in Baltimore city where I live are more ruthless and will kill for a dollar . Stra8 up 💯.
maybe more ruthless but would not stand a chance if they messed with the wrong gangster , who would watch and wait and watch and wait untill the time was perfect then you be dead . you can not be very smart if you kill for $1. and everyone around such a person must be a low life who can not even be trusted by there own gang family or friends
Fooor reeaal!!!
Interesting ,the cops relationship with Roberta
Gay cops moaning the whole interspew
Silvester the expert getting it wrong. Mark Moran shot Alphonse, not Jason.
And just remember . The lone wolf is a million times more dangerous than any gang. Gangs talk too much . Lone wolf does shit on his own and then makes a wolf pack.
@Ed Kelly yeah your right but I aint talking about these guys at all . Just a lone wolf in general can do alot more damage and no one will ever know lol
So the "lone wolf" then makes his wolf pack? Sooo he then starts a gang essentially, contradict yourself much.
He isn't a lone wolf when he starts his own pack, he's just a dangerous coward who is hiding behind his freinds or gang members so they can do the dirty jobs, he doesn't want to get caught so he will snitch and go cop shopping for the best deal for him, in other words just a sell out and not worth the time or effort, not worth wasting my breath on worthless scumbags and imbecile criminals
Your so slow
top video. I lived it
The batch that fell apart due to lack of binding agent, if u think about it they could still sell it, am sure the user's wouldn't mind, as long as the E's were decent it'd make no difference to them if it was powder. However the supplier's wouldn't have made as much so instead we all know what they went an done.
There would have been other people selling tho with Primo
I would have just snorted it lol
The grey shit falling apart
Soft pills were always a sign of dodgy production and too much cutting compound
I only got one bad batch and customers hated them
Williams did leave geelong prison very early . In a box
He was in barwon prison, Geelong jail has been closed for years
Ade H Dude Barwon prison is Geelong prison . As the old prison closed around 1990s . I was in Geelong hospital children's ward for 6 weeks in 1985 in Myer st Geelong the jail I could see out my window . mark read was housed there during the 80s as well that brings in the tourist . Barwon prison is now Geelong's prison yes plural as there are two side by side now . And the old Geelong Hospital is Called Barwon Health . Cheers .
Both Barwon and Marganite prisons are side by side in Lara
who is "the runner" ?
Just found out it was Victor Brincat
My piece of the jigsaw is in my pocket
Jason Moran not shooting Carl in the head, because he wanted t get his money back, was what you call "false economy"! Bahahah!
He had no business degree
Or press or money or pills
80k is 80k
Dear ol' Gus Mercurio at 11:36
I saw more strength, honesty, integrity...and yes even vulnerability in some of the highest ranking cops than any self serving double speaking politician
Mick Gatto is a legitimate businessman and has nothing to do with crime or the underworld
Bullshit lol
April.fools joke
Carl never sold drugs
Mick Gatto is an informant. Only reason he’s still walking. Very smart man
Lolol
Victor Brincat was the runner in case you were wondering.
what happened to him ?
@@chanang453 Serving a sentence at Port Phillip last I checked. He got 18 years.
Awesome doco
Carl never got that lucky.
Looks like you're putting on some weight carl, spending some time on an exercise bike wouldn't hurt😉
Ballerina Stance of being shown proof of everything that is true parent only 2 only my go to is that after that is the only 100/100 from them
We Won't mention flapping birds and a transmitter