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Not to mention: even Zygarde thought greninja alone was enough to protect the rest of the vines Lysander created from the entire Kalos region. And he still protects up to this day shown in journey's. Speaking of journey's, didn't greninja guide ash's Lucario as a legit mentor??? I think he could definitely destroy Alain's Charizard. Even higher after seeing him lose in the galar league.
Kinda crazy how strong he is in journeys, dude was tossing around a champion level lucario with minimal effort. Makes me wonder just how busted ash greninja would be at this point.
@@Zenduted yes he was I thought grah told u already, at the end of xyz he got rid of his mega ring and his zard's stone holder but in journeys he still has it, and the stone holder for his zard is also the same one lysandre's gyarados wears so it was custom made by him, but now he still has it in journeys???😭
Pikachu in the xyz series was so incredibly underrated. If you think about it he may have been stronger then base charizard but was heavily fatigued from metagross and fought t tar without taking damage once
I 100% actually agree with this ranking list!!!!! It's best to remember that when it came to Goodra, the toughest opponent our Lovable Pseudo Legend fought before leaving the team was Clemont's Luxray; he was Not ready for how much intensity the battle power level had been raised in XY&Z. And I love Talonflame as she was such a powerful fiery bullet!!!! Unfortunately that doesn't equal well with defense. Noivern could do so much more if the show hadn't run out of time to develop him, but he was able to do a lot for battling/defeating a Legendary, a Pseudo-Legend, Clemont's 2nd Ace, and then Doublade before it became Aegislash. Hawlucha was able to carry with both his power & personality to be ranked "2nd" after the icon aces of Pikachu & Greninja
My list based off of nothing really except my gut feeling: 6. Noivern 5. Goodra 4. Talonflame 3. Hawlucha 2. Pikachu 1. Greninja I’m not really sure between talonflame and Hawlucha, they are pretty similar in strength to me
i would argue that talonflames loss ratio is so high because it was often the first pokemon ash brought out in battle. i would personally rank it higher on the list but thats just my opinion
legit and that was dragon pulse from the mega blastoise. even if its sefective on mega charizard thats impressive since its not even stab or that high damage attack.
Worth mentioning that Mega Absol was the one Alains charizard also beat, but was also the same absol Hawlucha lost to before in the Diance movie. Also still can't deny the Unfeazent vs. Talonglame battle was still amazing to watch overall.
Greninja is and always will be ash's strongest Pokémon, he surpassed Pikachu with little experience in xyz, and in journeys he's now so strong and so fast in just his base form, if he hadn't trained lucario then he wouldn't have had that giant aura sphere to beat raihan and make it to the masters 8, so he's the reason ash even got in the masters 8 last second, ik Pikachu with zmove obviously would've beat gmax duraludon too but still
Nah pikachu is obviously ash’s strongest Pokemon and I’m sure everyone with common sense will agree but greninja is definitely ash second strongest Pokemon
I agree with Greninja being 1st and Pikachu 2nd in xyz but not by much. Pikachu literally was the pokemon with the most wins in the last two league battles. Being able to beat 2 full health psuedo legendaries and then fight an ace pokemon really says something about Pikachu
@@Pokiiii62 I agree, Charizard was literally fighting against legendaries and doing damage, no pseudo legendary of Alan could ever do that but Pikachu was weakened by them. If he was full health I believe he would have forced Charizard to go mega but still wouldn't have done the damage Greninja did
If we’re talking about overall potential in the team. Noivern should be third and Talonflame last with Hawlucha below Noivern. Ash was constantly praising Alexa’s noivern because it was an amazingly powerful Pokemon to him. And Alexa is a journalist and not a trainer. Noiverns in general have so much potential, it is just that the Noivern ash has is pretty much a baby in age and experience. Greninja is definitely number 1 because he is in the same boat as noivern and is probably the second youngest Pokémon in the team. Yet he still surpassed pikachu in xyz and debatably pre master class pikachu since base greninja is around mega lucario level now.
I’d agree with everything except hawlucha over noivern, only because Hawlucha threw the finals SO HARD by losing to that bisharp. This is 100% my personal dissatisfaction with a bisharp beating two pokemon using guillotine, because lets face it that’s jank, but I seriously think allain would have lost if charizard had to go through the gauntlet of pikachu, goodra, potentially hawlucha, and then ash-gren
I heavily agree with what you said. Like I said in the video, both are interchangeable, so I'm not surprised you feel that way because I do too, friend 😭
We are talking about alain's Charizard who beaten 10 mega pokemons back to back, to get toe to toe with him, is itself a great feat, it simplifies that greninja already defeated 10 mega pokemons indirectly in single match
But Leon vs Alain make him dirty, as either it was mega stone's problem or they didn't practiced much, I don't know, but to loss like that, heck he even used angles for direction in battle, who uses it, even Clemont doesn't does that
@@MorrowMoon_thenightwing if you look up "Ash winrate chart" you will find a chart of all of Ash's pokemon that was made when XY was airing that has Goodra at a 100% win rate. Pokemon Anitubers used to SWEAR by this chart and exclaim with all certainty that Goodra was Ash's strongest mon because of that 100% win rate. However, the chart only counts "official" battles (gym leaders, tournaments, league battles, battle frontier, etc.) and ties also count as a loss against Ash's mon. So Goodra had a 100% win rate due to the only "official" battle it partook in (Clemont's Luxray) and then got a tie against Slurpuff and a loss against Bisharp, so 1/3 battles won.
4:44 Well tbf Noivern impressively beat Sawyer’s Doublade with basically massive defensive with just physical moves like Dragon Claw and Acrobatics and this is when Sawyer improved as a Pokemon Trainer so you at least gotta give Noivern some credit 🤷🏾♂️
Noivern is a cool Pokémon. I used one on my main team for sword. But ash’s noivern specifically is underwhelming. Like torterra, he had water potential
well technically greninja only lost to alain's charizard 2 times since ash passed out in the second battle and greninja didn't really faint so that doesn't count as a loss
Actually, the trainer that Ash and his Greninja we’re facing against name Titus they had a Altaria wasn’t mega evolved just had a regular Altaria only we got Ash Greninja vs Mega Altaria if Titus had a mega ring so Ash Greninja defeated two mega evolved, Pokémon just as Wulfric’s Mega Abomasnow and Sawyer’s Mega Sceptile
Bro please make a discussion on sinnoh I think sinnoh team also deserves as the only catch for upset to league was tobias Other than that that was a solid and versatile team
I just wanna point this out Notice how it took BOTH Sceptile and Charizard to knockout Pikachu, this man literally merc’d 2 pseudo legendaries and had the most knockouts in the league like in both he got 2 knockouts And that’s the best anyone has ever done like sure Greninja’s power is amazing but Pikachu also carried massively by having 4 knockouts I mean Clawitzer was ok, Ageislash was just an Ash like thing to do. Tyranitar doesn’t stand a chance and even after tanking so much Metagross still got folded 😂 And to put the icing on the cake he landed a Thunderbolt and Sceptile and an Iron Tail and dealt a super heavy Quick Attack followed by a powerful Thunderbolt we all knew Pikachu wasn’t gonna be the star of the league but he is still the perfect ace for Ash and those battles was rly showing us Pikachu may be cute but he can still catch them hands
MEGA ALTARIA? 8:25 , I Mean he did one shot the Cloud bird, but i Rather play honesty, You should have Just added That ash-Gren Almost decimated Mega gardevoir, And in his Second fight against Alain he almost beated Mega Charizard, Which kinda mean that Both Greninja and Charizard Are keep getting stronger then each other, But i believe that what Greninja is Going through now will surpass Alain's charizard in his Mega experience
I would switch Pikachu and Greninja, because Pikachu in the final XY season needed two Pokémon to at least beat him, with Alain needing half his team. Greninja only did better against Diantha’s Gardevior because he was fast enough.
I’m just saying Alain charizard had some serious plot armor. Although I didn’t see his mini series. Greninja is for real the strongest pokemon ash has owned debatably of course. And in my opinion, this was the last really good pokemon series. It fell of after this I think.
how funny,in anime your pokemon battle using your creativity and also need to understand more about your pokemon style but in game we are only care about the advantage😂😂😂
Although I see where you're coming from, tierno would get bodied by most Pokémon trainers in the casting. For example, even clemont would beat him if he wasn't stuck being a gym leader. He has shown no feats that make him a good Trainer
gonna disagree with the talonflame ranking, i think he should at least tied with hawlucha and noivern. as someone you replied to said, talonflame was used most of the time before since it was ash's first caught pokemon in xy, and therefore had a lot more battles to lose. and even then, i rewatched the zapdos episode. talonflame was twoshot, and it was HAWLUCHA that was one shot. zapdos did NOT get beat by noivern, only getting stunned for a bit, before team rocket tried to take them, and they were stopped, then zapdos was shown to be pretty okay in terms of health. the legendary birds have a vendetta against ash's team xyz birds/bat lol. (also, talonflame and hawlucha were not confirmed to be fainted, i think this was the time when fainting was only confirmed through swirly eyes.) the reasons noivern did so well against zapdos was because he's actually a bit of a counter to zapdos. dragon/flying against electric/flying, and because ash only thought of the strategy to hide behind the rock pilllars to surprise zapdos after noivern evolved. ash only aimed to distract zapdos with hawlucha and talonflame, and thus they had to work with their own knowledge, in which talonflame did pretty well distracting, while hawlucha seemed to want to be more reckless, and fight zapdos. completely unrelated to the topic yes i am indeed a talonflame glazer. (i think he's third strongest especially with his speed and power) bro embarrased froakie (who had been training to especially be extremely powerful for like at least a year or two maybe) as a fletchling, and froakie only won with ash's instruction. my list: 1. Ash-Greninja 2. Pikachu 3. Talonflame (only by a bit) 4./5. Hawlucha/Noivern (getting noivern early would've been crazy, might've been top 3) 6. Goodra (bro has not trained)
Tierno gets beat by most of the main cast, and mega or not, he's still not nowhere near the Sawyer's level. Sawyer was able to beat and fight on par with ash on several occasions, and even going so far to get to a 1v1 with him in the league
Ironically, if you take away the anime logic of pikachu beating literally anything, over half of ash’s team would have been annihilated by sawyers aegislash, only greninja has a good matchup and it instantly dies to sacred sword
@@jadenfiregaming type doesn't really mean much in the anime cus remember greninja took out mega sceptile with water shuriken who's 4x resistant to it, also greninja tanked 2 dragon claws before that deadly blast burn which one shotted elite 4 malva's mega houndoom, and that was a weaker version of mcx too, and the 2 dragon claws I mentioned that greninja tanked made 50% zygarde stumble and take a lot of damage, so tanking just 1 is already insane, but 2?.... yeah
Seeing my boy talonflame and realizing how he's actually weak as hell is wild to me..😭. I honestly think Ash Greninja is stronger than Alain's Mega Charizard X after the league I mean only Ash and Greninja broke out of Lysandre's chains. Alain and Charizard were put in the same position. I personally think Greninja fights best and actually Ash for that matter fights best when lives are actually on the line.
Slurpuff went toe to toe with Goodra definitely not a weak pokemon. If Noivern gets praise for tying with Salamance the same should go for slurpuff. Greninja going 0-3 always bothered me. Lmao everyone hates Unfezant
Saying slurpuff going toe to toe with goodra isn't impressive if goodra himself is a weak Pokémon, that slurpuff has little to no feats worth mentioning 😭
@@Pokiiii62 tying a pseudo is all it got lmao, I know what you mean but I wouldn’t say it’s weak, Goodra was nerfed for the league. Pikachu and Greninja carried
XY team basically Goodra sucks in league Gawlucha kinda sucks Talonflame kinda sucks Noivern sucks Pikachu doesnt suck Greninja only ash pokemon thats actually good
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I loved the thumbnail, too, lufenas will be making more of em from here on out!
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The disrespect to talonflame is crazy
Not to mention: even Zygarde thought greninja alone was enough to protect the rest of the vines Lysander created from the entire Kalos region. And he still protects up to this day shown in journey's. Speaking of journey's, didn't greninja guide ash's Lucario as a legit mentor??? I think he could definitely destroy Alain's Charizard. Even higher after seeing him lose in the galar league.
Yeah current greninja would slam prime Alain's mcx now, and journeys mcx would get one shotted cus he got a insane retcon/nerf
Kinda crazy how strong he is in journeys, dude was tossing around a champion level lucario with minimal effort. Makes me wonder just how busted ash greninja would be at this point.
@@imab0t274 gg for leon's team then
@@mapleshadow22070not retconned
@@Zenduted yes he was I thought grah told u already, at the end of xyz he got rid of his mega ring and his zard's stone holder but in journeys he still has it, and the stone holder for his zard is also the same one lysandre's gyarados wears so it was custom made by him, but now he still has it in journeys???😭
Pikachu in the xyz series was so incredibly underrated. If you think about it he may have been stronger then base charizard but was heavily fatigued from metagross and fought t tar without taking damage once
Exactly
He also kept the experience from the unova journey(I know it was bad) because they didn’t restart his level like they used to
I 100% actually agree with this ranking list!!!!! It's best to remember that when it came to Goodra, the toughest opponent our Lovable Pseudo Legend fought before leaving the team was Clemont's Luxray; he was Not ready for how much intensity the battle power level had been raised in XY&Z. And I love Talonflame as she was such a powerful fiery bullet!!!! Unfortunately that doesn't equal well with defense. Noivern could do so much more if the show hadn't run out of time to develop him, but he was able to do a lot for battling/defeating a Legendary, a Pseudo-Legend, Clemont's 2nd Ace, and then Doublade before it became Aegislash. Hawlucha was able to carry with both his power & personality to be ranked "2nd" after the icon aces of Pikachu & Greninja
I'm glad to see Noivern get some respect, bro is just a kid yet already a finalist. Like come on!
FOR REAL, he's so much better than what people think
7:26
I mean... Ash's Pikachu is also known as a Metagross Slayer so...😂
I don’t believe that to be true
@@saagarkinariwala258 But it is true?
@@saagarkinariwala258it is true, pikachu has never lost a single battle against metacross in the entirety of the anime.
Fact@@lelouch7315
My list based off of nothing really except my gut feeling:
6. Noivern
5. Goodra
4. Talonflame
3. Hawlucha
2. Pikachu
1. Greninja
I’m not really sure between talonflame and Hawlucha, they are pretty similar in strength to me
W poki, I wouldn’t change this list one bit
Hello friend
i would argue that talonflames loss ratio is so high because it was often the first pokemon ash brought out in battle. i would personally rank it higher on the list but thats just my opinion
Valid criticism
that one mega blastoise that beat Alain’s charizard: 🥶
Still@@aarenala it took only 1 hit.
@@aarenala sense
legit and that was dragon pulse from the mega blastoise. even if its sefective on mega charizard thats impressive since its not even stab or that high damage attack.
@@nanomaxico mega blastoise has mega launcher which boosts dragon pulse
@@Hardracist ooooo yes I forgot
Worth mentioning that Mega Absol was the one Alains charizard also beat, but was also the same absol Hawlucha lost to before in the Diance movie. Also still can't deny the Unfeazent vs. Talonglame battle was still amazing to watch overall.
this was great you should do this with all of ashs teams
I'm considering it!!
Greninja is and always will be ash's strongest Pokémon, he surpassed Pikachu with little experience in xyz, and in journeys he's now so strong and so fast in just his base form, if he hadn't trained lucario then he wouldn't have had that giant aura sphere to beat raihan and make it to the masters 8, so he's the reason ash even got in the masters 8 last second, ik Pikachu with zmove obviously would've beat gmax duraludon too but still
Nah pikachu is obviously ash’s strongest Pokemon and I’m sure everyone with common sense will agree but greninja is definitely ash second strongest Pokemon
This inspired me to make an XYZ series edit
Go for it friend!!
3:40
Talonflame: Blame Pikachu and Greninja being the only ones ready
I agree with the list but hawlucha is definitely 3rd as he broke trick room which while not a battle feat is a feat to prove strength
I agree with Greninja being 1st and Pikachu 2nd in xyz but not by much. Pikachu literally was the pokemon with the most wins in the last two league battles. Being able to beat 2 full health psuedo legendaries and then fight an ace pokemon really says something about Pikachu
Of course, but still doesn't make the pseudo legendaries more impressive than charizard
@@Pokiiii62 I agree, Charizard was literally fighting against legendaries and doing damage, no pseudo legendary of Alan could ever do that but Pikachu was weakened by them. If he was full health I believe he would have forced Charizard to go mega but still wouldn't have done the damage Greninja did
@@Pokiiii62 pikachu surpasses Greninja at gen 7 and above
Pikachu is the son of *Arceus*....🤣
@@zed3241he literally might be tbh lol
If we’re talking about overall potential in the team. Noivern should be third and Talonflame last with Hawlucha below Noivern. Ash was constantly praising Alexa’s noivern because it was an amazingly powerful Pokemon to him. And Alexa is a journalist and not a trainer. Noiverns in general have so much potential, it is just that the Noivern ash has is pretty much a baby in age and experience. Greninja is definitely number 1 because he is in the same boat as noivern and is probably the second youngest Pokémon in the team. Yet he still surpassed pikachu in xyz and debatably pre master class pikachu since base greninja is around mega lucario level now.
I’d agree with everything except hawlucha over noivern, only because Hawlucha threw the finals SO HARD by losing to that bisharp. This is 100% my personal dissatisfaction with a bisharp beating two pokemon using guillotine, because lets face it that’s jank, but I seriously think allain would have lost if charizard had to go through the gauntlet of pikachu, goodra, potentially hawlucha, and then ash-gren
I heavily agree with what you said. Like I said in the video, both are interchangeable, so I'm not surprised you feel that way because I do too, friend 😭
We are talking about alain's Charizard who beaten 10 mega pokemons back to back, to get toe to toe with him, is itself a great feat, it simplifies that greninja already defeated 10 mega pokemons indirectly in single match
But Leon vs Alain make him dirty, as either it was mega stone's problem or they didn't practiced much, I don't know, but to loss like that, heck he even used angles for direction in battle, who uses it, even Clemont doesn't does that
If we are going by the rules of that one chart, Goodra's winrate is only 33%
What chart?
@@MorrowMoon_thenightwing if you look up "Ash winrate chart" you will find a chart of all of Ash's pokemon that was made when XY was airing that has Goodra at a 100% win rate. Pokemon Anitubers used to SWEAR by this chart and exclaim with all certainty that Goodra was Ash's strongest mon because of that 100% win rate. However, the chart only counts "official" battles (gym leaders, tournaments, league battles, battle frontier, etc.) and ties also count as a loss against Ash's mon.
So Goodra had a 100% win rate due to the only "official" battle it partook in (Clemont's Luxray) and then got a tie against Slurpuff and a loss against Bisharp, so 1/3 battles won.
It's 68%
4:44 Well tbf Noivern impressively beat Sawyer’s Doublade with basically massive defensive with just physical moves like Dragon Claw and Acrobatics and this is when Sawyer improved as a Pokemon Trainer so you at least gotta give Noivern some credit 🤷🏾♂️
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Noivern is a cool Pokémon. I used one on my main team for sword. But ash’s noivern specifically is underwhelming. Like torterra, he had water potential
The thumbnail being thr 120% jjk panel is hilarious 😂😂
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Imagine if Ash’s Pikachu had a light ball!
well technically greninja only lost to alain's charizard 2 times since ash passed out in the second battle and greninja didn't really faint so that doesn't count as a loss
Xyz was also my favorite series
Big W
Could you do a video on all of ash’s teams ranked?
I was thinking about it
Actually, the trainer that Ash and his Greninja we’re facing against name Titus they had a Altaria wasn’t mega evolved just had a regular Altaria only we got Ash Greninja vs Mega Altaria if Titus had a mega ring so Ash Greninja defeated two mega evolved, Pokémon just as Wulfric’s Mega Abomasnow and Sawyer’s Mega Sceptile
Yes, my eyes were blind watching the replay, but my point still stands. He's beaten 3 megas which the other being lysandere's mega Gyarados
Although I disagree with some of these ranks, it’s nice to see the 2 brothers next to each other
YOU GET THE REFERENCE?
…no what reference? I just said that it was nice to see the bros next to each other cuz their that close
@doublegfernandez4594 oh mb, but yeah I see what you mean 😅
Bro please make a discussion on sinnoh
I think sinnoh team also deserves as the only catch for upset to league was tobias
Other than that that was a solid and versatile team
My next Ace pokemon will talk a bit about sinnoh, but I've been meaning to watch talk about it for a while so stay tuned friend don't worry!
I just wanna point this out
Notice how it took BOTH Sceptile and Charizard to knockout Pikachu, this man literally merc’d 2 pseudo legendaries and had the most knockouts in the league like in both he got 2 knockouts
And that’s the best anyone has ever done like sure Greninja’s power is amazing but Pikachu also carried massively by having 4 knockouts I mean Clawitzer was ok, Ageislash was just an Ash like thing to do. Tyranitar doesn’t stand a chance and even after tanking so much Metagross still got folded 😂
And to put the icing on the cake he landed a Thunderbolt and Sceptile and an Iron Tail and dealt a super heavy Quick Attack followed by a powerful Thunderbolt we all knew Pikachu wasn’t gonna be the star of the league but he is still the perfect ace for Ash and those battles was rly showing us Pikachu may be cute but he can still catch them hands
Ive always thought Greninja was tired after fighting Sceptile to go up against Charizard
I mean their was a break
Tbf, charizard took 2 super effective thunderbolts and a good quick attack from pikachu.
MEGA ALTARIA? 8:25
, I Mean he did one shot the Cloud bird, but i Rather play honesty, You should have Just added That ash-Gren Almost decimated Mega gardevoir, And in his Second fight against Alain he almost beated Mega Charizard, Which kinda mean that Both Greninja and Charizard Are keep getting stronger then each other, But i believe that what Greninja is Going through now will surpass Alain's charizard in his Mega experience
1:33
And uses that to do very well in battles, it’s called “strategy”
You just gonna comment on every minuit detail of the video bruh
Lol
I hope you do this for other teams
I'm considering it for sure
I smell Cynthia victims
Sinnoh next 🙂
I would switch Pikachu and Greninja, because Pikachu in the final XY season needed two Pokémon to at least beat him, with Alain needing half his team.
Greninja only did better against Diantha’s Gardevior because he was fast enough.
The reason it took 2 was because he wasn't facing alains strongest Pokémon, charizard is triple the strength of alains t tar and metagross
I doubt even Mega Charizard X is 3 times as strong as Metagross and Tyranitar.
Hawlucha lost against the same mega Absol in movie 19 so this is payback
REALLL
I hate how he’s so right with Goodra 😭
Hey man... I love goodra too it hurts 😭
Is it just me or is the title of the video resemble the 3 way domain expansion from todo, yuji, and mahito from jututsu kaison
YOU GOT THE REFERENCE, THATS WHAT ITS BASED OFF
Goodra has a 100% win rate
I’m just saying Alain charizard had some serious plot armor. Although I didn’t see his mini series. Greninja is for real the strongest pokemon ash has owned debatably of course. And in my opinion, this was the last really good pokemon series. It fell of after this I think.
Wasn’t the guy with the Wartortle In the movie Pokémon Deoxys with a Blastoise already evolved?
Uhh no?
how funny,in anime your pokemon battle using your creativity and also need to understand more about your pokemon style
but in game we are only care about the advantage😂😂😂
Fr 😭
You shouldn’t downplay Tierno. He reached Top 8 of Kalos League. That’s impressive
Regardless he loses to anybody else in the cast
Just started watching bro 😂 and saying Tierno isn’t a trainer is crazy he got to the League, there are plenty of trainers who don’t even get that far
Although I see where you're coming from, tierno would get bodied by most Pokémon trainers in the casting. For example, even clemont would beat him if he wasn't stuck being a gym leader. He has shown no feats that make him a good Trainer
Bide is such a niche move. Youd think it would work better in the anime but nah goodra could of been so much better
FOR REAL MAN
gonna disagree with the talonflame ranking, i think he should at least tied with hawlucha and noivern. as someone you replied to said, talonflame was used most of the time before since it was ash's first caught pokemon in xy, and therefore had a lot more battles to lose.
and even then, i rewatched the zapdos episode. talonflame was twoshot, and it was HAWLUCHA that was one shot. zapdos did NOT get beat by noivern, only getting stunned for a bit, before team rocket tried to take them, and they were stopped, then zapdos was shown to be pretty okay in terms of health.
the legendary birds have a vendetta against ash's team xyz birds/bat lol.
(also, talonflame and hawlucha were not confirmed to be fainted, i think this was the time when fainting was only confirmed through swirly eyes.)
the reasons noivern did so well against zapdos was because he's actually a bit of a counter to zapdos. dragon/flying against electric/flying, and because ash only thought of the strategy to hide behind the rock pilllars to surprise zapdos after noivern evolved.
ash only aimed to distract zapdos with hawlucha and talonflame, and thus they had to work with their own knowledge, in which talonflame did pretty well distracting, while hawlucha seemed to want to be more reckless, and fight zapdos.
completely unrelated to the topic yes i am indeed a talonflame glazer. (i think he's third strongest especially with his speed and power)
bro embarrased froakie (who had been training to especially be extremely powerful for like at least a year or two maybe) as a fletchling, and froakie only won with ash's instruction.
my list:
1. Ash-Greninja
2. Pikachu
3. Talonflame (only by a bit)
4./5. Hawlucha/Noivern (getting noivern early would've been crazy, might've been top 3)
6. Goodra (bro has not trained)
FYI Tierno beat Clembot and made it to the top 8 in the kalos league
Damn i love noiwern
Same bro
I think Greninja beat Lucario In journeys
Alain only won because he modified his mega ring
well the altaria greninja beat wasnt a mega but greninja did beat lysanders mega gyarados along side with charizard and pikachu
Unfortunately my eyes weren't working but even then my point still stands, you're also right about the gyarados battle, I forgot to mention that ome
@@Pokiiii62also are you ranking ashs regional ace’s after this or a different video?
@@grah_editz nice profile pic lol
@@MorrowMoon_thenightwing thanks
@@grah_editzI'm really considering it for sure
Are we going to talk about how no Greninja in XYZ have battle bond besides ash's
Put some respect on Tierno. If Sawyer didn't have a Mega Sceptile he could have beaten him I think. Reaching Top 8 is still mighty impressive.
Tierno gets beat by most of the main cast, and mega or not, he's still not nowhere near the Sawyer's level. Sawyer was able to beat and fight on par with ash on several occasions, and even going so far to get to a 1v1 with him in the league
@@Pokiiii62 He got Sawyer to a 1v1 too. Sawyer had to mega to beat his Raichu. I am just saying he’s underrated
Ironically, if you take away the anime logic of pikachu beating literally anything, over half of ash’s team would have been annihilated by sawyers aegislash, only greninja has a good matchup and it instantly dies to sacred sword
But literally the only damage greninja took in that Alain fight was blast burn, the one move it should resist….
Your wrong, it took dragon claw and flamethrower
@@Pokiiii62 ok but still. 2 not very effective attacks and 1 effective attack took it out.
@@Pokiiii62He was unfazed by the flamethrower though
@@jadenfiregaming type doesn't really mean much in the anime cus remember greninja took out mega sceptile with water shuriken who's 4x resistant to it, also greninja tanked 2 dragon claws before that deadly blast burn which one shotted elite 4 malva's mega houndoom, and that was a weaker version of mcx too, and the 2 dragon claws I mentioned that greninja tanked made 50% zygarde stumble and take a lot of damage, so tanking just 1 is already insane, but 2?.... yeah
Don't let bro cook
As bro doesn't explain what's wrong with the list
Seeing my boy talonflame and realizing how he's actually weak as hell is wild to me..😭. I honestly think Ash Greninja is stronger than Alain's Mega Charizard X after the league I mean only Ash and Greninja broke out of Lysandre's chains. Alain and Charizard were put in the same position. I personally think Greninja fights best and actually Ash for that matter fights best when lives are actually on the line.
Slurpuff went toe to toe with Goodra definitely not a weak pokemon. If Noivern gets praise for tying with Salamance the same should go for slurpuff. Greninja going 0-3 always bothered me. Lmao everyone hates Unfezant
Saying slurpuff going toe to toe with goodra isn't impressive if goodra himself is a weak Pokémon, that slurpuff has little to no feats worth mentioning 😭
@@Pokiiii62 tying a pseudo is all it got lmao, I know what you mean but I wouldn’t say it’s weak, Goodra was nerfed for the league. Pikachu and Greninja carried
bring back Jame's chimecho
Just a tip, stop saying ,,and not only that’’ so much
You said it back to back like 4 times within 2 minutes
Great video tho
Oh shoot, it never occurred to me. Thanks for the criticism
Godra is better then noiverene (probably spelled that wrong) imo
Edit: Yes he did have to good moments but had nothing else.
the voice cracks ;-;
I tried my best to find all of em bruh you've got to be kidding me 💀
@@Pokiiii62 LOLOL
still midbinge in the series, but ill be back when i finish it :)
Alain lost to a kalos elite 4 member, Greninja should have won and in the 2nd battle he was actually winning
now i cant find xy :[
don't throw heat on tierno
Finally someone realizes Goodra is shit
I actually love goodra, but such wasted potential in ashs team
XY team basically
Goodra sucks in league
Gawlucha kinda sucks
Talonflame kinda sucks
Noivern sucks
Pikachu doesnt suck
Greninja only ash pokemon thats actually good
never cook
@@1RealDAL Talking about overall wins and usefulness I'm definetly right. The team was carried by greninja.
Ash Greninja never battled a mega Altria 🤦🏿♂️
If you take a look at the comments, you can see that I corrected myself and that it really doesn't change a thing
Once again goodra being the worst psuedo