This is why I spend time scouring TH-cam. I’m 70 now, and to hear Alvin Toffler speak, looking back ten years after “Future Shock” was first published, now 42 years after this interview is pleasantly shocking. Here’s to those futurists whose vision of the changes to come. Who do not see the future through a dystopian lens, but shape thinking of what can be in a positive way. I had no idea that he was a factory welder for six years. As one who chose not to become just “book smart” as my father would say, but to balance practical experience with intellectual curiosity. Thank you for sharing this video. I now will go back and re-read his works.
My father was a history teacher for 23 years. He taught from this book and continued to talk about it until the day he passed away. He met Alvin Toffler back in the 70’s at a speaking event in NJ.
As all men serving technology and empire, even in fear could see their horizon. Alvin Toffler's predicament was bullsh*t. It never came true. His messianic visions based on technology, information and post-enlightenment exuberance were eventually smashed by neoliberal capitalism, tribalism, nationalism and a general governance of mediocrity and bureaucracy. As most white men, to his dying day he refused to accept the reality dawning on the generation of the 80s.
It’s unfortunate that they don’t publish The future shock and The Third Wave anymore. These books are essentials tools and they really helps us understanding why society is struggling right now and even more since the beginning of the pandemic. Nietzsche was ahead of his time when he introduced the concept of Nihilism 140 years ago. Alvin Toffler helps the readers with his books to avoid melancholy and he gives us hope during theses times of transition. Merci Alvin!
I still have my copies. I love his comments about the accelerated pace of society and also throwaway Society we have Echoes of that and also technology he talks quite a bit about the changes in our world due to the tech age
As all men serving technology and empire, even in fear could see their horizon. Alvin Toffler's predicament was bullsh*t. It never came true. His messianic visions based on technology, information and post-enlightenment exuberance were eventually smashed by neoliberal capitalism, tribalism, nationalism and a general governance of mediocrity and bureaucracy. As most white men, to his dying day he refused to accept the reality dawning on the generation of the 80s.
As all men serving technology and empire, even in fear could see their horizon. Alvin Toffler's predicament was bullsh*t. It never came true. His messianic visions based on technology, information and post-enlightenment exuberance were eventually smashed by neoliberal capitalism, tribalism, nationalism and a general governance of mediocrity and bureaucracy. As most white men, to his dying day he refused to accept the reality dawning on the generation of the 80s.
As all men serving technology and empire, even in fear could see their horizon. Alvin Toffler's predicament was bullsh*t. It never came true. His messianic visions based on technology, information and post-enlightenment exuberance were eventually smashed by neoliberal capitalism, tribalism, nationalism and a general governance of mediocrity and bureaucracy. As most white men, to his dying day he refused to accept the reality dawning on the generation of the 80s.
Get understanding (perception, comprehension, contrast), which allows for the growth of knowledge of any subject. As one goes through life, they will have the opportunity to apply knowledge to solve problems which leads to the greatest goal, Wisdom.
I have always had a deep respect For Mr Tofler, who has sadly passed in 2016. He confronted humans natural capacity to develop and to ;evolve. In every way. History proves those dramatic changes, prior, and since. The Roman Empire, and the worship of many Gods such as the sun, Neptune, and Gods like The horse with angel wings which some of us can remember in our life times. So to predict changes going forward is most interesting...HOW we manage those changes will predict our quality of life. Thankyou My Tofler for broadening our minds and to look into our futures...It is only by doing so, that we can manage those changes by adapting. The Chinese have an old saying...Thousands of years I think...'Bamboo is the stronger than a mighty Oak tree. Due to it's capacity to bend. (Bamboo in the wild can grow as tick as an arm.) 11.2020. We are having problems currently with 'who has the right answers'?...Globally...Time to listen to the old Masters maybe?
Future Shock was an assigned read and report in my history class (?) in '72. I remember it being pointed out we would be moving to service economy. I was too young at 14 to even ponder the implications. All I can think now is the internet has the power to change trajectories in current affairs.
My 8th grade English teacher had us read Future Shock in the fall of '71. That introduced me to Toffler's work, which was over my head at the time, but when the The Third Wave came out, I bought it and so did a college buddy. We spent hours discussing it. The Prosumer and the Electronic Cottage have come along, sometimes in ways that could not be that easily forseen, such as Patreon.
As all men serving technology and empire, even in fear could see their horizon. Alvin Toffler's predicament was bullsh*t. It never came true. His messianic visions based on technology, information and post-enlightenment exuberance were eventually smashed by neoliberal capitalism, tribalism, nationalism and a general governance of mediocrity and bureaucracy. As most white men, to his dying day he refused to accept the reality dawning on the generation of the 80s.
@@iforget6940 No, not possible. Before the 1980s, the early Internet wasn't accessible or usable to anyone but researchers. Even then, there were no personal computers, no Internet service providers, no World Wide Web, no browsers, and almost no published online content.
@@shyamdevadas6099 I mean maybe they saw snippets of the idea in the newspapers or talk to professors and learned about it somehow I did not mean they used it internet the idea of computer that exists today was probably not how they thought it will be like when we see stuff about genetic engineering or whatever even stuff like super computers or AGI we can't use it but we know it exists and it will be developed so that one day even we might be able to use it
@@iforget6940 I know what you're saying, but it's definitely not the case. In this video, he is still talking about point-to-point modem communications, using standard analog telephone lines. That was a non-Internet technology, at the time. It was just a way for one computer to communicate with another computer. Believe me, he had no conception of the World Wide Web because it wasn't even invented by Tim Berniers-Lee until 1989. Without this and the invention of the Mosaic web browser in 1993, the Internet would have remained a text-based tool that was inaccessible to over 99% of the world population, including academics like Heidi and Alvin Toffler. Then again, this is what makes Toffler so great. He devised the concept for remote work before the technology even existed. Nice thought, though.
@@shyamdevadas6099 dude your the same guy I just spoke to I usually faze out user names and mostly focus on the the message they are trying to share Also I kinda also thought that you could have been mostly talking about those old style communications but as I do not know that much of the past I also thought that It could be a possibility that they had some level of information about these types of developments because you need to think outside of the box to start to develop something Also have you read the books and with the information you have now what do you think can we can use this today to manufacture a better future for ourselves it seems like people who are more aware about this information can become more successful than those without what do you think
Fascinating. This one is much more correctly predictive of what followed than the 1970 version. Last year, 48% of Americans regularly spent at least some part of their week working from home, for example. And the complex do-it-yourself projects? 3D printing!
This book billions and trillion copies must be sold World widely but not....how,why,??? our Earth is full with those people who are educated but they can't unlearn that knowledge thay learnt by society, religious society, political society ,they can't be individuation
The one thing I remember about his work is his recommendation that one : get rid of the brackets ! This possibly explains the encouragement of writing, (and therefore thought styles ) -haha - like those of Yuval Noah Harari. Language and grammar may have their constraints but such are necessary to impart nuance. I can't agree with his comments on futurists like Huxley. He missed a lot there ! Also; I hate sociology .
"We're seeing a lot of people who are Future Shocked and are in Future Shocked institutions." Are you Future Shocked? Welcome to your post apocalyptic reality.
Too many people and not enough work to go round....The pre-leisured society of my generation, the tech age of the future and the easing of work and leisure time to make life more easier....FAILED....
The US is no longer a Republic. We are on the verge of a major revolution, probably a civil war. The "powers-to-be" are going to do what they always do when they bring us into full compliance of socialism / communism; they are going to kill off the Christians, Jews, Disabled, and Old. If you aren't working, they will terminate you. Look back at every revolution. Read your Bible. We are in "end times". If you don't come to Christ soon, that's it. Best wishes!
I think his ideas about technology changing daily life are correct, at least when it comes to doing real work and creating real products, that is, reducing material discomfort. However, he failed to predict technologies "solving" the same problem in the social domain, that is, reducing psychological discomfort. If the first solution allowed us to forget how to coexist with nature in nature, then the second solution is making it difficult to exist with people who do not support you, for right or wrong reasons. Also, he mentioned problems with predictive economics. 1980 was still before the Reagan era, and afterwards, the rules changed sufficiently so, that companies became not only capable of producing more of better products faster but also impactful enough to steer the population almost at the level of the entire government.
Sadly, his prognosis on Huxley and Orwell was shortlived. His technology that was to create diversity only reinforces conformity. I don't think he read Zbigniew Brzezinski. Overall very interesting!!
Maybe if you can afford it, it's possible NOW as far as I know. Making something like that available on a wide and cheap scale is a different question but I think if you could survive another 12 years or so I think It may be upon us.
They will be taking children away from the parents. They will be raised by "the state". This is what this whole COVID is about. Bringing us to the NWO. Accept Jesus Christ before it's too late. This is all in the Bible written thousands of years ago.
Toffler discusses the sordid state of the economy in that time (1980) yet didn't take into consideration the fact that Tricky Dick Nixon took us off of the gold standard and effectively rendered our currency a fiat currency. This is still having catastrophic effects in our economy. R.I.P Alvin Toffler
If you study end times from the Bible, this was prophesied over 2,000 years ago, right down to getting jabbed in the arm. How's that for accuracy? If you don't come to Christ soon, you will not have that chance again and spend eternity in hell. And if you think what is happening now is bad ... it's going to get horrendous if you are left behind. This man is part of the beast system. You don't need to read his book. It's already been told.
Everyone is responsible for educating themselves. Might I suggest researching earths upcoming disaster cycle which we are likely to witness within 13 years
@@bobwoww8384 I already did. It's all in the Bible. That's the whole purpose of the Bible is mostly prophecies to warn us of what's coming so that when things do come to pass, people will know that God is real.
19:55 Stole this from Huxley's The human situation . Previously bagged him in this talk for getting it wrong ?? His later stuff , Sociology Reinterpreted , is an utter literary wank .
Donald Trump is owned by the Rothschilds. He's the other side of the same coin. He's a Freemason. They have to swear allegiance to Satan. He was used to divide the nation. If Clinton had gotten in, the "right" would have been sick about it, but they would obey the laws and moved on. They needed someone that they could blame everything on and the "left" is more likely and willing to riot and do what the "powers-to-be" want because they watch more TV and they are more easily brainwashed. They believe everything "they" say about COVID. The left is more likely to go along with all of it. And they are. They believe what the news tells them. The "right" is also brainwashed into believing that Trump is for them. He's not. I was fooled too. Not anymore. Once I studied about Freemasons and the Illuminati, I understood and it's all Biblical. Leaders, every leader across the world is put into office by the people running the world. If they don't do what they say, the die. It can be by heart attack or whatever, but they will be taken out. We are in "end times" and it's going to get worse. Much worse. The US Republic is gone. They are going to start taking people and putting them in camps and then exterminating Jews, Christians, disabled, and Seniors. If you can't / don't / won't work, you will die. It's been like that in every country take down. We'll be raptured, but we may see more than we thought.
2022 is calling, wow!
This is why I spend time scouring TH-cam. I’m 70 now, and to hear Alvin Toffler speak, looking back ten years after “Future Shock” was first published, now 42 years after this interview is pleasantly shocking. Here’s to those futurists whose vision of the changes to come. Who do not see the future through a dystopian lens, but shape thinking of what can be in a positive way.
I had no idea that he was a factory welder for six years. As one who chose not to become just “book smart” as my father would say, but to balance practical experience with intellectual curiosity.
Thank you for sharing this video. I now will go back and re-read his works.
My father was a history teacher for 23 years. He taught from this book and continued to talk about it until the day he passed away. He met Alvin Toffler back in the 70’s at a speaking event in NJ.
As all men serving technology and empire, even in fear could see their horizon. Alvin Toffler's predicament was bullsh*t. It never came true. His messianic visions
based on technology, information and post-enlightenment exuberance were eventually smashed by neoliberal capitalism, tribalism, nationalism and a general governance of
mediocrity and bureaucracy. As most white men, to his dying day he refused to accept the reality dawning on the generation of the 80s.
It’s unfortunate that they don’t publish The future shock and The Third Wave anymore. These books are essentials tools and they really helps us understanding why society is struggling right now and even more since the beginning of the pandemic. Nietzsche was ahead of his time when he introduced the concept of Nihilism 140 years ago. Alvin Toffler helps the readers with his books to avoid melancholy and he gives us hope during theses times of transition. Merci Alvin!
I still have my copies. I love his comments about the accelerated pace of society and also throwaway Society we have Echoes of that and also technology he talks quite a bit about the changes in our world due to the tech age
Hope for what?
As all men serving technology and empire, even in fear could see their horizon. Alvin Toffler's predicament was bullsh*t. It never came true. His messianic visions
based on technology, information and post-enlightenment exuberance were eventually smashed by neoliberal capitalism, tribalism, nationalism and a general governance of
mediocrity and bureaucracy. As most white men, to his dying day he refused to accept the reality dawning on the generation of the 80s.
2020 ... and this is spot on
2021
And 2022 Many people are refusing to go back to the office! CEOs want them to come in to the office 3 days a week.
As all men serving technology and empire, even in fear could see their horizon. Alvin Toffler's predicament was bullsh*t. It never came true. His messianic visions
based on technology, information and post-enlightenment exuberance were eventually smashed by neoliberal capitalism, tribalism, nationalism and a general governance of
mediocrity and bureaucracy. As most white men, to his dying day he refused to accept the reality dawning on the generation of the 80s.
As all men serving technology and empire, even in fear could see their horizon. Alvin Toffler's predicament was bullsh*t. It never came true. His messianic visions
based on technology, information and post-enlightenment exuberance were eventually smashed by neoliberal capitalism, tribalism, nationalism and a general governance of
mediocrity and bureaucracy. As most white men, to his dying day he refused to accept the reality dawning on the generation of the 80s.
Fucking hell, how prescient can somebody be?? Expressed modernity almost to a tee 50 odd bloody years ago 0_0
This channel is a gold mine of content
Get understanding (perception, comprehension, contrast), which allows for the growth of knowledge of any subject. As one goes through life, they will have the opportunity to apply knowledge to solve problems which leads to the greatest goal, Wisdom.
I have always had a deep respect For Mr Tofler, who has sadly passed in 2016. He confronted humans natural capacity to develop and to ;evolve. In every way. History proves those dramatic changes, prior, and since. The Roman Empire, and the worship of many Gods such as the sun, Neptune, and Gods like The horse with angel wings which some of us can remember in our life times. So to predict changes going forward is most interesting...HOW we manage those changes will predict our quality of life. Thankyou My Tofler for broadening our minds and to look into our futures...It is only by doing so, that we can manage those changes by adapting. The Chinese have an old saying...Thousands of years I think...'Bamboo is the stronger than a mighty Oak tree. Due to it's capacity to bend. (Bamboo in the wild can grow as tick as an arm.) 11.2020. We are having problems currently with 'who has the right answers'?...Globally...Time to listen to the old Masters maybe?
You post great content! 👍
+1
Future Shock was an assigned read and report in my history class (?) in '72. I remember it being pointed out we would be moving to service economy. I was too young at 14 to even ponder the implications. All I can think now is the internet has the power to change trajectories in current affairs.
My 8th grade English teacher had us read Future Shock in the fall of '71. That introduced me to Toffler's work, which was over my head at the time, but when the The Third Wave came out, I bought it and so did a college buddy. We spent hours discussing it. The Prosumer and the Electronic Cottage have come along, sometimes in ways that could not be that easily forseen, such as Patreon.
Electronic cottage is much truer because of covid 19. People now work in the confines of their homes.
Yup. Was planed. Welcome New word order.
I have read some of his books ! Alvin Tofflers must be read and heard for the benefit of Humanity!
As all men serving technology and empire, even in fear could see their horizon. Alvin Toffler's predicament was bullsh*t. It never came true. His messianic visions
based on technology, information and post-enlightenment exuberance were eventually smashed by neoliberal capitalism, tribalism, nationalism and a general governance of
mediocrity and bureaucracy. As most white men, to his dying day he refused to accept the reality dawning on the generation of the 80s.
Incredible. He didn't even have knowledge of the Internet in 1980 and he got the future so right.
He might have known just did a Google search it states it was starting to be developed in 1969
@@iforget6940 No, not possible. Before the 1980s, the early Internet wasn't accessible or usable to anyone but researchers. Even then, there were no personal computers, no Internet service providers, no World Wide Web, no browsers, and almost no published online content.
@@shyamdevadas6099 I mean maybe they saw snippets of the idea in the newspapers or talk to professors and learned about it somehow I did not mean they used it internet
the idea of computer that exists today was probably not how they thought it will be like when we see stuff about genetic engineering or whatever even stuff like super computers or AGI we can't use it but we know it exists and it will be developed so that one day even we might be able to use it
@@iforget6940 I know what you're saying, but it's definitely not the case. In this video, he is still talking about point-to-point modem communications, using standard analog telephone lines. That was a non-Internet technology, at the time. It was just a way for one computer to communicate with another computer. Believe me, he had no conception of the World Wide Web because it wasn't even invented by Tim Berniers-Lee until 1989. Without this and the invention of the Mosaic web browser in 1993, the Internet would have remained a text-based tool that was inaccessible to over 99% of the world population, including academics like Heidi and Alvin Toffler. Then again, this is what makes Toffler so great. He devised the concept for remote work before the technology even existed. Nice thought, though.
@@shyamdevadas6099 dude your the same guy I just spoke to I usually faze out user names and mostly focus on the the message they are trying to share
Also I kinda also thought that you could have been mostly talking about those old style communications but as I do not know that much of the past I also thought that It could be a possibility that they had some level of information about these types of developments because you need to think outside of the box to start to develop something
Also have you read the books and with the information you have now what do you think can we can use this today to manufacture a better future for ourselves it seems like people who are more aware about this information can become more successful than those without what do you think
Fascinating. This one is much more correctly predictive of what followed than the 1970 version. Last year, 48% of Americans regularly spent at least some part of their week working from home, for example. And the complex do-it-yourself projects? 3D printing!
This book billions and trillion copies must be sold World widely but not....how,why,??? our Earth is full with those people who are educated but they can't unlearn that knowledge thay learnt by society, religious society, political society ,they can't be individuation
No one can be individuation. One can only express individuation.
He had discovered the Internet Economy long before Don Tapscott wrote the Digital Economy book in 1998
Just learned about this man An hour ago via GTD (he is referenced in there- it's a time management book)
Ruben Spyckerelle great! Read also Good Results book on Amazon, it’s best!
The one thing I remember about his work is his recommendation that one : get rid of the brackets ! This possibly explains the encouragement of writing, (and therefore thought styles ) -haha - like those of Yuval Noah Harari.
Language and grammar may have their constraints but such are necessary to impart nuance.
I can't agree with his comments on futurists like Huxley. He missed a lot there !
Also; I hate sociology .
Thanks for the upload! ✌☺
Incredible guy
this chanell is GOLD
"We're seeing a lot of people who are Future Shocked and are in Future Shocked institutions."
Are you Future Shocked? Welcome to your post apocalyptic reality.
I didn't work on my first PC until 1982 there was only one in the entire high school
Cam din cale afara de optimist. O viziune care nu a prins viata in realitate.
Comment from 2023.
I want one of them electronic plug into the telephone line typewriter things
Always interesting
This.is.the.u.s.a.story.in. fulfilment.of.democracy
Capitalism must consume itself. Was worth the try I suppose.
Too many people and not enough work to go round....The pre-leisured society of my generation, the tech age of the future and the easing of work and leisure time to make life more easier....FAILED....
The US is no longer a Republic. We are on the verge of a major revolution, probably a civil war. The "powers-to-be" are going to do what they always do when they bring us into full compliance of socialism / communism; they are going to kill off the Christians, Jews, Disabled, and Old. If you aren't working, they will terminate you. Look back at every revolution. Read your Bible. We are in "end times". If you don't come to Christ soon, that's it. Best wishes!
We'll probably have a universal income in the future.
I think his ideas about technology changing daily life are correct, at least when it comes to doing real work and creating real products, that is, reducing material discomfort. However, he failed to predict technologies "solving" the same problem in the social domain, that is, reducing psychological discomfort. If the first solution allowed us to forget how to coexist with nature in nature, then the second solution is making it difficult to exist with people who do not support you, for right or wrong reasons. Also, he mentioned problems with predictive economics. 1980 was still before the Reagan era, and afterwards, the rules changed sufficiently so, that companies became not only capable of producing more of better products faster but also impactful enough to steer the population almost at the level of the entire government.
Well said
Sadly, his prognosis on Huxley and Orwell was shortlived. His technology that was to create diversity only reinforces conformity. I don't think he read Zbigniew Brzezinski. Overall very interesting!!
Yes, exactly.
Who is the interviewer?
Alvin tuffer.on
Human.perpective..and.ideology.backlash
How prophetic? Telling their plan!
I guess my kids will be my clone then
Maybe if you can afford it, it's possible NOW as far as I know. Making something like that available on a wide and cheap scale is a different question but I think if you could survive another 12 years or so I think It may be upon us.
They will be taking children away from the parents. They will be raised by "the state". This is what this whole COVID is about. Bringing us to the NWO. Accept Jesus Christ before it's too late. This is all in the Bible written thousands of years ago.
Toffler discusses the sordid state of the economy in that time (1980) yet didn't take into consideration the fact that Tricky Dick Nixon took us off of the gold standard and effectively rendered our currency a fiat currency. This is still having catastrophic effects in our economy. R.I.P Alvin Toffler
FDR took us off the gold standard 1933
Did that not accelerate
If you study end times from the Bible, this was prophesied over 2,000 years ago, right down to getting jabbed in the arm. How's that for accuracy? If you don't come to Christ soon, you will not have that chance again and spend eternity in hell. And if you think what is happening now is bad ... it's going to get horrendous if you are left behind. This man is part of the beast system. You don't need to read his book. It's already been told.
Everyone is responsible for educating themselves. Might I suggest researching earths upcoming disaster cycle which we are likely to witness within 13 years
@@bobwoww8384 I already did. It's all in the Bible. That's the whole purpose of the Bible is mostly prophecies to warn us of what's coming so that when things do come to pass, people will know that God is real.
19:55 Stole this from Huxley's The human situation . Previously bagged him in this talk for getting it wrong ?? His later stuff , Sociology Reinterpreted , is an utter literary wank .
That's right 4 billion in 1980. His problem is the quintessential american failure: naivete.
👍🏼
40 yrs later...Donald Trump...
Donald Trump is owned by the Rothschilds. He's the other side of the same coin. He's a Freemason. They have to swear allegiance to Satan. He was used to divide the nation. If Clinton had gotten in, the "right" would have been sick about it, but they would obey the laws and moved on.
They needed someone that they could blame everything on and the "left" is more likely and willing to riot and do what the "powers-to-be" want because they watch more TV and they are more easily brainwashed. They believe everything "they" say about COVID. The left is more likely to go along with all of it. And they are. They believe what the news tells them.
The "right" is also brainwashed into believing that Trump is for them. He's not. I was fooled too. Not anymore. Once I studied about Freemasons and the Illuminati, I understood and it's all Biblical. Leaders, every leader across the world is put into office by the people running the world. If they don't do what they say, the die. It can be by heart attack or whatever, but they will be taken out.
We are in "end times" and it's going to get worse. Much worse. The US Republic is gone. They are going to start taking people and putting them in camps and then exterminating Jews, Christians, disabled, and Seniors. If you can't / don't / won't work, you will die. It's been like that in every country take down. We'll be raptured, but we may see more than we thought.
Choke, cough, retch