Workers compensation under fire: shoddy and "unethical practices" exposed | Four Corners
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- Workers compensation is supposed to be a safety net designed to return injured employees to the workplace and provide assistance to those so badly hurt that they can no longer hold down a job. And yet some injured workers say the system has ruined their lives.
Australian workers are guaranteed these protections by law, but there is disturbing evidence the system is failing badly.
In a joint Four Corners, The Age, and The Sydney Morning Herald investigation, we examine the financial scandal and human cost of Australia’s biggest workers compensation schemes.
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It should be illegal for insurance agents to be incentivised to terminate claims.
@thaal sinestro Absolutely - that's the point. You get paid more for finding the evidence that rejects the claim. Read the ombudsmans report in Victoria. When I was told my claim was rejected, the woman telling me couldn't hide her excitement, not for me obviously, but for the fact that she could cite a clause (which didn't apply) that would invalidate my claim. So now ... I'm waiting for an impartial arbitrator - the court. It will be around 18 months before I get there. That's how shameful this thing is - you think 'not in Australia - that must be a lie.'
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
thaal sinestro yes that’s the goal for the employee but NOT the insurance company. Insurance drs are given the questions to ask by the insurance company. They don’t care about the patient. They’re not interested in the health of the injured. They give false reports to benefit the insurance company. They hide evidence from the employees private GP if it’s going to benefit the employee. The insurance drs are purely there to write reports for the insurance company and give them the answers they WANT to hear to make them more money. Their only aim is to have a claim rejected
thaal sinestro of course they get a bonus for having claims rejected. Did you even watch the four corners program 🤷♀️
thaal sinestro this is why we need a royal commission into these w/comp insurance companies.
No I don’t believe the media exposes everyone as most of it is controlled. How many people on here have told the same sort of story regarding their treatment with w/comp claims? How can so many people be wrong? We all have issues with w/comp claims. The program was about real people with real stories. I do believe John Nagle resigned after the program was aired n after Mark Lennon did the week before too
Please air this again. Nothing has changed... for nearly three years I've been pulled through this gauntlet while diagnosed with Complex PTSD. It's a dangerous game... And it's still happening.
Agree. Nothing has changed except for the amount they pay themselves in bonuses
Me too.. 3 years in and I'm now homeless with CPTSD
This is the same in the US. I waited 7 months for my initial surgery and I had 3 fractures in my spine. I ended up paying for my own MRI ($5001). I will NEVER be the same -- not ever. 33 years at the same company, and I feel like I've been forgotten about completely.
Oh wow you poor bugger. I also waited for surgery. 8 months later and AFTER Zurich offered to buy my job off me for twenty grand. Ongoing pain I just wish it would end. I feel for anyone who ever has to deal with insurance drs 🙏
@@swar6989 I was offered $25k and that's with over 30 years at the company which would be not only a loss if my retirement, but would also mean an end to any further care for the injury. Considering that all healthcare companies, including Medicare everyone in the US goes on at 65 (may be 62), excludes paying for anything in the future that's related to a work injury means that we are at the mercy of the work comp insurance adjuster. I'm now into my 3rd month of waiting for them to approve physical therapy so I can at least have some productivity in my life. The doc has ordered it 3 times and my 5 emails to the adjuster asking about it have gone unanswered. It feels like they try to purposely drag it out so that people give up or that time expires.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
Despite an injury picked up at work and wasn't really getting fully better, WC tried to refuse my case! 2 days before I would have gone to court with them, they finally caved and said they would cover the costs - 2.5 months after I last saw a doctor and got some occupational therapy.
They fully closed my case without fully fixing me. I have to watch my wrist - take it easy, stretch frequently, strength exercises, and I still sometimes get stove up if I use it a lot.
Don't know about any country outside of the US but my experience with Sedgwick, Hartford & Esis have convinced me you'll not get justice without legal counsel...
my wife is a victim of this. Workers comp are criminals and disgusting ppl.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
Do they not realise that if they just treat injured workers fairly and efficiently that workers will get better quicker and get back to work (especially psychologically injured workers), thus reducing costs?!? If I did not have to go through the pain of trying to get my correct payments, I would not keep slipping backwards in my treatment.
Ditto ... could have been back in no time, and I am working with someone else who could have been back in two weeks if she'd had anyone advocating for her return to work without the agenda of saving money. It's totally shameful.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
I’ve now been cut off from seeing my GP because Zurich decided not to pay the invoices. I suffer frozen shoulder since surgery on My ulnar nerve from work injury. Zurich won’t fund anything unless it’s for my elbow down..... so no pain killers or medical progress reports for me to produce..... Zurich and my employer would be the worst for bullying.
And they wonder why the suicide rate is rising ffs
I’ve been an injured worker under EML for almost 2.5 years. The hell they have put me through, the lies they have told me, and they accidentally included my wife and I in a group email that had documents that they had created AFTER my injury occurred. People are corrupt to the core.
I liked this comment because I wanted to share that I support you, not because of the content of the comment.
I’m so sorry you’ve been treated like that. It’s really important to hear from people actually going through it. Obviously ABC can’t interview the thousands who have struggled like you. But adding your voice to the conversation is helpful and brave.
Sending warm thoughts to you and your family.
I'm with EML too. 😢 They are so corrupt. I had a GP, rehab provider & physio all trading emails & scheming together to treat me the way EML wanted. It ended up further injuring me! I just wanted to get off this system. I have a new GP who is great & somehow I managed to make it past the 130wks. But they are under paying me & they will cut me off in 2yrs. I can't return to full time work & I'm not eligible for NDIS or the disability support pension. I don't know how I'm going to be able to pay rent & support myself in the future. It's very stressful.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
Todd Childs I’m with EML they are the devil. I have had about 4 claims agents. I never see anything positive with EML. They are monsters.
Thanks for the supportive comments, and I hope everyone who needs treatment gets it promptly. I’ve had 8 case managers in 2 years, my wife has been verbally abused by the most recent case manager, which was utterly disgusting. We have had DEBT COLLECTION calling us as payment for services like CT/MRI, specialists, and allied health services haven’t been paid. My wife called to ask why the services weren’t paid and why we were being called, the case manager denied that there were outstanding payments to be made, my wife took the brunt of the abuse. The team leader of the case manager called my wife 2 hours later, apologized to her, and admitted that there are MANY outstanding payments to services. EML are a terrible service.
The truth is finally coming out. I am dealing with Gallagher Bassett and this is what theyre doing to me. Not only that the company you work for neglected your cry for help when you needed it that led to my mental illness and then you go through hell with the insurance. Thank you for speaking out 🙏
Sure….so a companies indifference led to a mental illness? What kind of mental illness? A lot of redundant, useless, leaches like yourself always play the victim putting the blame on someone else so that they get a easy ride out. Let’s be honest, you had mental illness beforehand, acting like the big bad insurance company is the cause of it. If you were a stronger, self sufficient, independently minded, and self-reliant individual, you wouldn’t have to deal with lying to get handouts.
Gallagher Bassett are the worst. They are disgusting. Abusive and scandalous practices.
As someone who has been injured at work. I can wholeheartedly agree with the fact workers comp company’s will do as much as possible to pay as little as possible in the treatment of a worker. Even when the specialist says surgery will be the only likely option. They will still send you around to all these other people. To get out of it. I had 12 months of agony with steroid injections in the shoulder seeing different therapy specialists. Favouring the right shoulder so much I started suffering problems In my left shoulder. It was only after they started refusing to give more injections and I accumulated about 6 months off work in a 12 month period. That they approved my surgery. Then it’s a push to get you off the books as fast as possible.
The whole system is made to make you feel like your not doing enough, your trying to pull a fast one.
When your whole day is nothing but pain. Your best friends are pain killers and ice packs left on longer enough to cause numbness. You start to wonder yourself is it me. Then you meet a specialist who actually seems to care you realise its not you. You are injured and it’s not in your head.
I may not of been as massively injured as those you interviewed I can understand how they feel. Even now 5 years down the track my shoulder still hurts me.
I wish all the best to those you interviewed and those who have been and still are stuck in this system.
@thaal sinestro
No you can't. You can however call them out in their tardiness to go with what a specialist recommends. The sending you to different people trying to get a different outcome. In which time the damage done becomes more aggravated. Surgery was recommended at 2 months after the injury. Surgery was not authorised for another 10 months. So they do have some responsibility on them. Having damaged bone removed is not fun. But hey the gave me a video of the surgery and what the inside of my shoulder looks like.
thaal sinestro do you work for these insurers or have something to do with the process mate? If so leave your address in reply. I have something to give you
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
Doctors involved in these systematic reviews to close cases need their license revoked. I left this industry in the 90s and NOTHING has changed.
I am on Comcare workers comp and I have battled with Comcare and Allianz. It has been horrific and dragging me through 'the system' since 2004. It's beaten me down psychologically. Six Commonwealth Ombudsman complaints have yielded no genuine resolve from their bullcrap.
Keep track of all the Doctors names who worked for the insurance company. They not only betrayed their oath, but could be sued for personal liability.
Doctors don't work for insurance companies per se, they work for agencies or even for themselves and are used to assess any type of injury from wcomp, motor, public liability etc claims. Not sure how you'd sue them for personal liability.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
Quite often even when the IME provides a report in your favour the insurer still finds a way to deny liability.
@@paultaddayphotography7205 yeah if the claims manager doesn't like something in the report they just ask for it to be left out or changed. most doctors make little argument and if they refuse to change the report they can be refused payment for the report or the report can be rejected. doctors get no more of this lucrative work if they rock the boat (which they don't as they are generally cowards).
This is an example of the way humans are treated when it comes to money. There is no place for the injured worker to get help.
Everything they experienced is what I experienced, greatful for my lawyers, and gp for showing how this worked. Everyone gets a piece of the pie, the last person to get what's left over is the victim
The unjust and immoral actions that workers are enduring represents systemic failure and is similar in Western Australia. How can we stop these detrimental behaviours? Lawyers just want to finalise and scare workers with the amount of money it will cost should victims have cause for civil action. They are also complicit.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
royal commission needed
apcvapes
absolutely 👍
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
it never happen, lots have asked and never happens.
Definitely needs one
Well if it’s anything like Canada’s , they have their own doctors. That tells me everything that I need to know.
Yeah, trained assasins in white coats employed to tear you down.
I even had their Doctors backing me but still got cut off! Most evil system i have ever witnessed
I'm a legal representative in a very large Workers' Compensation Insurance Company in the USA. For brevity I'll tell you this; It is all about money and public appearances. If you are injured, it may be best to immediately retain an attorney. Fraud and abuse is so bad that the insurance companies often take the hard approach. Unfortunately good people are the ones that pay.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
I was injured and my the insurance helped to my company to get me out of my job. They fire me accusing me of theft. But i didnt do anything. Totally illegal. Send me to fmla for 3 months before that happend and didnt want me to be back. I texted HR and never replied me.
I have been stalked and intimidated. Should be illegal to do that to an injured worker
Allianz. Don't think I've forgotten you. Your still on my radar. Insurance Contracts Act, Section 13 (2A), Section 57, General insurance Code of Practice sections2, 3, 7 and 10.
I'm under workers compensation. I went to their chosen doctor and instead of giving me exams to take, they forced me into physical therapy without any diagnosis or mri or xrays. On top of that, the doctor absolutely refused to give me any restrictions at all or time off. I live in USA
"wage underpayment" just another way of saying theft of the workers they represent. Execs aren't under payed. Money for jam.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
It's theft, fraud - it's appalling that it isn't treated as such.
We need the following to occur,
A Royal Commission
Individual Torts against agent case managers and their managers
Class actions against each of the Insurers and the Government’s
Class action against Worksafe
Class action against the Governments behind the system
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
I’m happy to step up and tell my story. Unfair dismissal 4 mths to the day after I had major neck surgery due to those injuries given to me at my ex employers location. I was told I had to play the game....I never knew being hurt was a game for these low life humans. I’ve been in hell for 3 yrs. Had an IME doctor rub his crotch on my knees. I had a Physio tell work I’d never need surgery. Lifting 30 kgs and being told that’s normal. Bullied by the workplace. They tried to go behind their insurance companies back. Reimbursement takes forever. I became homeless. I’ve been taken to hospital by police because I want to die. My claims agent when I asked for a $10.50 patch to be approved my claims agent said get my lawyer to call them. The stuff that we deal with is ridiculous.
Absolutely disgusting. Keep fighting. Your lawyer works for you remember. Some of them are only there for a quick easy buck n move onto the next case. Good luck 🙏
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
Sally-Ann Wardle thank you my lawyer is a gun he supports me 100%. 🙏🙏
Lon that’s excellent. Happy for you. I also have a lawyer. I’m yet to see how my case goes as I’m just over a yr into w/comp. I’m expecting to have my wages cut soon, as that’s the usual with w/comp claims by sounds of things.
They’re trying to protect their most prized possessions,,,,,, the might $$$$$$$$$$$$
Nyree Harris and it is worth every cent to employ a lawyer. My lawyer is excellent
Investigate the board, investigate past audits. Get rid of the board. Blacklist the board members from further government participation. Obtuse if not a absolute joke.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
DEMOCRATS AT WORK HERE TOO IN USA
I have seen this first hand and been both personally and professionally. There needs to be a royal commission into the whole work safety and compo situation. I know of people who have comitted suicide over it all. abomination. Corrupt, illegal behaviour and coverups everywhere. Mining and construction
They need to be charged with manslaughter 😢🙏
I have been living this nightmare for quite some time. They make you fight for support while already fighting to recover from injury. They play strategic games with people who have little to no knowledge of how the system works. They bully injured workers and railroad doctors and specialists into conforming.
It’s one of the worst experiences I have endured. I have no stability in my life for myself and my kids. My future is unclear and I feel I have the weight of the world on shoulders that cannot carry anymore burden.
I agree 100% on the same bout
In NSW, blame Mark Coyne (CEO and former rugby player) for how shite EML/iCare have been.
Greed, Selfish Greed !!!
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
Good investigation, well done
As a former nurse I have seen lots of injured workers who were still unfit for work even several operations and years later. Then other problems like depression, weight gain, economic hardship, marriage breakdown and substance abuse would often follow.
In 2006 when HIH insurance' was about to go belly up other insurers were caught with their pants down too after some floods and fires. They implored the govt to make big changes which included Workcover paying out less to injured workers. Both the govt and opposition agreed to make the changes and from that point the whole system became much more hostile to claimants.
They call it a scheme need I say more
Get together in Aussie and take out the IME doctors. They will never deny another claim. BAM!!!!
Profits before people. There is literally a financial incentive for insurance companies to make people suicidal, not to help them recover. They pay themselves bonuses & pay rises, whilst completely failing Australian workers. Australia is not a safe place to work, the system is broken. Corporations are protected not the workers.
Remember when we called the police for crimes like this?
In the USA we have the same problems with works comp. I was fighting WC for more than 5 years
A year and a half in the system currently...
It is not designed to help workers at all, it is designed to give the insurance companies the ability to reject all claims regardless of situations then make the worker challenge it.
I challenged and the panel agreed but there were 6 months of no income before that decision.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
What needs investigating is opportunistic service providers encouraged to stalk, harass and violate the privacy of injured workers. ‘Tradies’ in vans parked outside the house. And why some of these service providers coincidentally enjoy overseas family holidays around the same period.
WorkCover is there for the benefit of the employer. The employer pays the premium and purchases insurance which protects the employer financially and in all other respects from an injured worker. If a worker wants to insure themselves against workplace injury the worker needs to take out their own private insurance.
I started off with workcover since that was the number on my claim form to call for advice. I posted all my info after I took copies. I realised I was missing a copy of one document. I called workcover n asked them to send me a copy. They told me they didn’t receive any of my documents as they have problems with Aussie post with mail going missing. I hired a lawyer after that
@@swar6989 Getting a lawyer was a good decision. The lawyer is Duty bound to act in your best interest. While WorkCover his Duty bound to act in the best interests of the employer. My wife was involved in a WorkCover claim that lasted for 7 years and dealt with the situation by herself. She felt that there was nobody on her side and she regretted not engaging a lawyer from the very beginning. You did well to engage lawyer.
Livio Vesnaver oh dear that’s horrible you guys had to go thru that. I am glad I got a lawyer too now. I didn’t want to but I actually had no choice at all. My bosses, Zurich n their dr, work cover seem to be all against me. I had nobody except my own dr n physio eventually ask me if I thought of getting a lawyer. Even when I spoke to fair work they asked me if I had a lawyer. Its crazy how employers change towards you in an instant. I use to wonder why,,,,because it’s not coming outa their wages???? but soon learnt it actually does
Livio Vesnaver and thank you for your kind words of encouragement on getting a lawyer 🙏
I'd love to see ComCare in Western Australia to be exposed like this.
Read the 2016 report by the Australian Ombudsman, A Ms. Or Mrs. Glass, O.B.E. In it she mentions all the suicides of injured workers. They have been tortured to death with pain and poverty and stress. APPEALS ARE THE CRIME!
i was injured at work because the company hadn't fixed a crane, so i was coerced to do the work without it, even though i refused. from there the company treated like a criminal. i was sent for alcohol testing. they changed my position. harassed why i wasn't seeing the work doctor, which i was - i was seeing mone and theirs as i wanted to get better. i was forced to do work that i wasn't meant to do. i was fit, now im not
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
@Jack O'Bean 👈so easy for you to say!
Iam another victim of allianz they have destroyed me
I am on Icare and I am struggling to continue with life and this explains to me why I feel the way I do.
I was told after my accident at work...
If I think asking for compensation centrelink got a TEAM and they decided if I got compensation or not...CGU will cut my pay as my wife died and from February 2007 till October 2007 I didn't get any pay from CGU WORKCOVER from
Company or centre link
Get rid of coalition government. They are horrible
It’s interesting that two years later and Dominic Perrotte is the Premier. At the time Dominic was Treasurer of NSW and he said everything is financial sound with icare, it was clear this was not the case. Now with the numbers growing in COVID in NSW and no clear roadmap with more and more workers are being but through the broken icare system It makes one wonder why Dominic has allowed this and what kick backs he was and still is getting?
" I'll just say it. Here in the 🇺🇸 it SUCKS with work comp. Healthcare. Job security. "
Signed a citizen.
Joined the rfs, got injured in a training accident at 19, rushed back into work after only seeing a gp and told to come back when it hurt again, came back years later and turns out its been broken the whole time, its now 5 years later and im still waiting for surgery or a day in court, my favorite quote from kylie moffout from icare was im an injured worker and expected to work for it
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
I was injured at work, after years of treatment not recovering, work cover dumped me. I have not worked since and now on a disability pension. I was paid no super and 75% of income. Lost everything.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
I had a nervous breakdown during my workcover injury process. The lies, refusal of treatment, the gaslighting, damaging light duties, bullying, claims i was rorting by the insurance company. It was horrendous. I signed off in the end because mentally i couldnt fight it and i wanted to get control over the treatment of my body. It was life changing.
I left Australia to live in New Zealand because I saw that Australia then was a rubbish country. I've been force to return to care for a family member. I see that it has only got worse. You have no idea how disgusted I am in this government and it distain for its people.
It's not the govt in a sense, it's private insurers, but yes the govt puts it under their umbrella and let it happen
Work comp is so corrupted, big companies exploits the poor injured workers
goin thru the same thing n im dyen a lot quiker than i would icare wollongong sharon scott are eating of my injured bak severe compressed nerves ,these people need to be held accountable enuf is enuf cant wait for the royal commission nxt yr
Too many public servants and administrators doing nothing whatsoever.
Good ones like me are bullied and ousted. People who butter up their boss and bullies stay and get promoted.
This goes on in North America too
We’ve known about this for decades. You’re only just catching up with public knowledge. They want you to give up. I know someone who went through it 15 - 20 years ago in SA.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
Frances Lock I’m in Sth Iz going thru it now. Have done so for 3 yrs.
Yes they drag you thru hell n back. They try the starve out tactic. It’s disgusting
The insurance industry has been hit with fires,floods I was clapping my hands that insurance company had to pay up
I had the same experience with workers comp. Their "independent" medical assessment doctor did not even know what he was assessing me for, he chose to reject my claim based on me having wet hair on the day he saw me. I ended up going through my super instead and having spinal surgery. It was a most depressing time and they made me feel absolutely useless even though i was trying my absolute best to get back to work.
That is terrible. I hope your are k 🙏
Were's the class action
Deborah Glass, what a legend.
The government is quite aware of these methods used by insurance companies, that is why the government uses them. You will note that the members of parliament are not being interviewed or held responsible. Publicly they will claim no knowledge of any individual case. The insurance office staff work in high security offices behind bullet proof glass. They do not answer to the public and often delay or block communication with the injured party and their representatives. The doctors engaged to support the insurance company will refuse to discuss patients medical condition on privacy grounds. It is not only a carefully planned system, harassing the patient and using professional positions to discredit patients claims has been happening for over 100 years. Notice that a serious permanent injury 2 years down the track is still called a claim and not an entitlement. You missed the payment that the claimants solicitor gets when the case is finalised.
One hundred percent 👍
I work in health insurance in Germany.. my job is to save money (not worker's comp, but people who need long or short term care through a care service at home - like meds being administered, injected, wounds treated..)
We are monitored for those savings. The first few minutes I thought "this sounds kind of like my job"...
But omg - this is nothing like my job.
We call our customers (the insured person) and ask "hey, the care service says you need x, is that correct?" and if they say "yes" (or for those who are or seem unfit to make that decision for themselves we call their family or the care service (the people who benefit from us not cutting costs) to ask) - if any of those treatments are claimed to be necessary we have to treat them as necessary.
In cases of doubt we send the medical information to a medical panel (that are NOT affiliated with us) and only if they say "you can cut x", then we are allowed to cut costs.
Watching this is horrifying.
Yes, we sometimes make bad decisions, mistakes, all of that.. but this is just horrifying.
I suffered a lot and my suffering is going on ,God knows till when
Mine too. It’s a nightmare. Keep fighting 🙏
Don’t. give up mate
We have the same story here in CANADA its called W.S.I.B the employees must pay to them from every pay cheque but GOD help you if you need them to pay you when you are injured ! its like talking to the wall ! you won't get threw no matter what.
Mate In Australia Workers Compensation is a very Big Blunder, i am Victim i got 50% permanent disabled person i was abuse ,medical documents tempered , all evidence was washed out , made be beg outside bakery At Hoppers Crossing, 3yrs Battle at Hospital, lost Dignity , lost hope , i didn't get Justice , i lost everything what i had , my Thoracic vertebrae got collapsed, got multiple spine injuries , loosing faith in Justice system, treated like criminal. Made me cried of blood tears. I was happy and jolly person before. If Justice system will not be improved we have to beg on Streets of Australia.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
Don’t give up. Get a lawyer. But remember your lawyer works for you n not you working for him/her
They're still playing the same games. Deny deny deny!!! This needs to stop.
It's the same in the united states unfortunately. Not even one month after my accident.. the employer told my attorney they didn't want me back..I followed work protocols to a TEE. I fell from a ladder and hurt my back, fell on a cement parking stopper. I wanted to go back to work but couldn't without recouperating. They lefte without choice but to settle out .. I was making less than 50 percent of my earnings. Almost 8 months later I can't find work. Im having a hard time at age 37.. my mind wants to be functional, my body can't keep up. I have to pay for my own prescriptions.. depression is destructive.
Google tort of law in United States n see a lawyer. It’s complicated but it may help you. Can’t hurt. Good luck 🙏
Appoint ex-insurance company lackeys to a workers comp board.. of course they're going to line their pockets at the expense of the workers. Well done corrupt Coalition, you've done it again!
Yep going through it now in Tas. Injured July, 10 days on opioids in extreme pain... company didn't provide RTW duties despite doctor clearance, No collaboration despite repeated requests, but when fully signed off I had pre-injury clients, no reason they couldnt have been on RTW plan. So after sign off with no integration into work force, workplace changed my availability and schedule, no explanation or warning... injury started aggravating, despite IME video consult from NZ saying I was healed and it would not recur! What is she God or something..?
So persevered for a month on full capacity, reported aggravation not settling, no workplace discussion or injury management plan, a month later Oct I was signed off incapacitated. Dr reopened claim... claim in dispute so had to be leave without pay... not had sick leave reinstated from first claim in July, no explanation.... had to work to earn, first day 2hrs, couldn't stand the whole hour, couldn't drive without pain, had to keep trying, woken 4am every morning in pain and forced out of bed from Oct to Jan, got my first real sleep in Feb for a few days then flared up... finally determination of tribunal 2 Dec... as case reopened more than 14 days from closure insurance co can take it as new claim, but as written on continuation cert dont have to take it as new claim either... case closed, no support continued on leave without pay trying to increase hours despite pain.. lawyer said submit new claim to get some pay. Did 9 Dec... and work had roster out of alignment with doctor Cert... this happened 4 times and couldn't contact anyone.....first WC payment last day in Dec... call from insurance co 17 Jan will support therapy on med cert... first physio 25 Jan from incapacity in Oct... many ups and downs in Jan, still waking in pain.... rehab consultant 4 Feb, change of approach RTW plan... some relief with less aggravation, therapies... IME wrote in favour of insurance co, trying to say it was underlying condition based on a chiropractic evaluation in 2018 instead of recent scans and MRI in 2021, and not work related, but never had problems b4 july injury despite heavier workloads - nobody seems to want to know that........back to Tribunal 28 Feb, determined a reasonably arguable case... ceased WC and support without notice, took leave entitlements without any communication - only just started therapy and have to stop, how does this help worker return to work expediently? ...!!! back on leave without pay with light duties and company taking all leave entitlements and not meeting RTW hours clearance despite my suggestions. No replies to correspondence, no collaboration or injury management.... Lawyer calculated offer for payout... 2 years calculation, 1 year with no centrelink support. I am 57 who will employ me with a back injury and neck degenerative condition? What happens if it doesnt heal? No addressing breaches of legislation. Insurance co can recind offer or part and I can't make more offers and no further protection despite it is still giving me trouble! That is a brief nutshell but this system is hell and companies and insurance companies can breach legislation and get away with it.!!! IME are rigged, we need a system where the contracted specialist doesn't know who they are writing for.
I am lost, backed into a corner and no longer feel protected by society! Truly, this is a cause for PTSD! I DO NOT TRUST THE LAW TO DEFEND OR REPRESENT SOMEONE ON WC... it is a scam and an abuse!!!! You can contact me if you want my story... happy to share.
Why is this man not fired yet???
They reined in power for past 2000 years . They're not going to give up power without a fight from the people.
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
I have a bad personal experience with Work Cover QLD and with undeniable evidence, I may share it with this program definitely after getting all legal advice for disclosing evidence to make sure I am legally protected and everything is based on law, I wouldn’t mind if the producers of this program contact me to discuss more.
It's the same way in the USA also... I been fighting with worker comp for almost a year now... And just now finally starting to get help.. literally 11 months after my injury I finally was able to get injections into my back. And omg what a difference it made. Ended up having to get a lawyer involved cause they didn't want to do anything and just send me back to work with a bulging disc. My first doctor approved me and said injections may help month went by with no word from workman's comp about my injection and then my next doctor appointment comes up and he says sorry but I am releasing back to work. Worker comp should not be able to disagree with a doctor's orders at all... it's wrong and just sad that they can do that! I was so devastated and hurt! Got a lawyer and did a change of doctor and finally got treatment... Literally 11 months. When it should have been done month 1... They make people suffer plan and simple. My advice.. if you ever get hurt on a job... Get a lawyer immediately don't wait for them to try and screw you like they did me!!!
Wow ..why you didnt get a lawyer to begin with and why did you wait so long
Great financial managers, these Libs. Both at the state and federal level.
yeah let Trump solve this problem...
It's Labour in Victoria - so it's not the party - it's just shameful greed
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
When I hear the Workers Compensation System is described as a gravy-train and snouts in the trough I see all these companies circling like feeding sharks.
Every one getting paid..., except the people who the scheme was supposed to look after. I can't believe how many people working for the WorkCover system that are being paid over 300 Grand. And they won't disclose the Bonuses they receive on top.
Someone say stop. STOP!
we need a class action on icare
Yep - I'm in.
im getting the ball rolling, will hear back from Lawyers in a weeks time.
@@1Dukecronic Send me an email if you need help with more people.
@@3scarybunnies211 no worries
@@1Dukecronic im in im dealing with ICARE and would be in a class action so yes im in
l would be happy to sue worksafe and australia govement
It's about to happen!!!!!
@@robbierob1675 thank you but l am not in australia l had to go out of australia to a pay out and keep quite hear nothing from australia no help nothing
scott he say on the we help all australia really
just send us oversea and forget about us
a forgot australia in moldova
health is not i can get the pills can not walk
2 move disc in back have come out lost at who cost
when the 2 disc brake that the end of my life
but i will say for right free speech as australian that all l can do.
over 40 years of work for nothing
so sad to see they do it to all of us :(
Icare change their case managers every 2 or 3 months and dont even tell you......they wont even return your calls
Happened to me from a car accident . Dumped like a piece a s#$t
It's a global problem, I'm a Latino that lived in Switzerland, the land of big Insurance corporations. I had to struggle for 2 years to get proper treatment against upper back pain the amount of time, effort, energy and stress should be compensated as well, it just adds up to the fisical pain, It'll come the day when somebody will run up in some big shot office in full on Rambo mode... And then.... Tragedy...
4 years 7 months .for me .out of construcion for life .lumbar dysecotomy operation .permanent nerve damage .pushed to do other work .3 surgeons reports .occupational therapy .wrote me of .work cover agreed to settle .but the company responsible fought for 4.7 years .then offer .the amount i can not disclose but after 230.000 paid back to work cover .and solicitors and centrelink pay back + solicitor .im left with under 100.000 .absolutley disgusting .
Lost my house, my wife and my child because of bullying by my employer and insurance company
Thank god for this. Is happening to me. I worked my guts out in life and served my country yet when I get hurt I'm a leper. No one from work wants to talk to me because its workers comp and what's going to happen to me when 130 weeks passes. I've lost my life from a brain injury. I'd rather have lost a leg or an arm. I can't do the most basic things with brain injury yet medical seems to know next to nothing about mild brain injury. I can't believe this system in Australia they kick us off and just want us to give up and commit suicied, I've thought about it.
I’m same, I have very few friends keep in contact. Least I know who the real ones are tho. Keep fighting. Don’t let insurance companies get what they want. They push for suicides. Good luck 🙏
wow!
We are all slaves to the Rich and the elite if you cannotcontribute to society you are classed as worthless so if you are on the doll or have a disability you were put in that bracket if you are a worker who has injured themselves you also put in that bracket if you are not making money for the eliteyou are just a number you work for crumbs struggle your whole life to pay your bills and tried to pay a mortgage put your kids through school well these people are getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars justifying why you should not get a compo payout or why you I'm not good enough when is the world going to see that money is just a big scheme it does not bring happiness
same problem here in NZ as well with ACC
Yeah…like trying to deal with Centrelink… they are pathetic!
"This is not about peoples lives, its about money" says it all. Isn't this what we vote for? Capitalism? Until we recognize the system we vote for and investigate & demand an alternative system this type of corruption will continue. Where are the Unions in all this, they should be the ones leading the charge on these issues but Union leaders have been bought off and silenced.
Unions are not here to create a socialist or communist system, there are here to keep a balance in the capitalist system.
Interesting - where are the unions? Were is the person to advocate for the worker? This is too big for the unions because they have smaller fish to fry.
A Labor government is the only chance of bringing unions back; even then it's slim.
Unions have been gutted thanks to the Howard govt. Fewer members, and ALL of their funds come from membership. Fighting more and more court cases - did you know taking industrial action can get you charged these days? And massive fines. The Libs cosied up to big business as usual, to try and kill off unions through emptying the coffers to pay endless fines and fund court cases. If you want unions to fight for you, join one and fight for them.
Deborah the Ombudsman deserves huge respect!
Am still going through WC. They think they are crafty. They are pieces of shit. Every WC worker worker is a piece of crap. It's not justified as a job.
im with ICARE and cant get reimbursements medical treatment paid for im left at home choosing between eating or buying my meds my mental state is of concern leaving me to suicide attempt I need help from someone to put this on tv and get media pressure to help me with this as ive got no where to turn to my mental health has crashed to where i just stay home crying and not liking life as im so hurt and sick with no help from ICARE
PS no one would help me and the stress intense when you can't put food on the table or pay bills I lost everything including my sanity
Yes especially when you work for family they are the worst off the worst
Since 2017 no payment no recovery surgery just years of physical therapy to injury sites that decreased by every year in use. No income just welfare 🤬😓
It’s not the injury itself but the way the agents treat injured workers that cause mental illness & suicide, Allianz included!!!
Pssst; the Government agencies who purport to provide resource are worse.
Deborah Glass (Ombudsman) and the body that "oversees" them the Inspectorate (Eamonn Moran).
Trust at your own peril.
Yes it’ all about money. But why do they think the way they do? It’s the boy who cried wolf. Their scepticism is borne from years and years of people rorting the system and now it affects the people who really need it. As a rehab & return to work officer I have seen it time and again and people are trying it on to this day.
Q: "What do you think when you hear the word iCare?"
Me: Cringe
Just gotta love that I am being paid at my 2016 rate because that's when the bullying got so bad that my depression, anxiety & PTSD was diagnosed. I worked for two more full years, earning pay raises along the way before it got so bad that I could no longer walk into my workplace - I can't even go into any school without excessive anxiety (including my son's school). But because I was diagnosed in 2016, that's when "my injury happened" so that was my pay rate - $400/fortnight less than I was earning when I could no longer work. Even after appeals, they refuse to accept my correct pay rate. Every time I have to appeal, my PTSD returns and my anxiety causes my self-harm tendencies to return.
Is it worth going backwards in my treatment by ~6 months to get justice? I will appeal again, but only when my psychiatrist thinks I might be stable enough to do so. The next step is to appeal to the ombudsman. And the worst thing about all of this is that the bully gets to keep her job, where she continues her abuse unchecked. I was not even close to her first victim and I certainly won't be her last. No-one cares. How do the taxpayers feel about paying for the injured workers caused by this one woman? I am willing to bet that she has cost taxpayers over $1million in worker's compensation claims and lawsuits - I know of at least one successful lawsuit against the Department of Education based on this woman's actions. And still, she is free to terrorise teachers and destroy lives. At that school, you have the choice of being a compliant sheep or being a target. I just wish I knew about the psychology of psychopaths before I encountered her, if I did, I would have fared much better.
3ScaryBunnies sorry to read your story. Bullying happens in every work place and it starts by the employers. They don’t like workers being united
@@swar6989 Agreed - it is so prevalent in government workplaces. The bosses have no real stake in the success of the business and can do what ever they want.
3ScaryBunnies yes they are the biggest bullies
| 👀 ]™ Western Australia is another state with disturbing examples of injured workers who have been unfairly treated and unjustly denied their legal entitlements. It also demonstrates a systemic problem with the current model of claims management for complex claims, and insufficient oversight and review mechanisms.
*Case Study:* Senior Bridge Inspection Officer and Public Officer e61028 for *Main Roads WA* was seriously injured in active duties (physically/mentally, financially/emotionally)
Site Location: BRG 4251 - Fourteen Mile Brook Road Hotham River, Wandering 6308 in the state of Western Australia, AUSTRALIA
*Occupational Safety and Health Act 1984*
23K. Duty to inform employee who reports hazard or injury
(1) This section applies where an employer receives from an employee a report of a kind described in section 20(2)(d).
(2) The employer must, within a reasonable time after receiving the report -- (a) investigate the matter that has been reported and determine the action, if any, that the employer intends to take in respect of the matter: and (b) If an employer contravenes subsection (2) the employer commits an offence. [Section 23K inserted by 51 of 2004 s.8]
*DUTY OF CARE* {MRWA Document Number 70/01}
Nothings changed.
So I went to arbitration I WON then after 4 years my name was on top to go to court CGU WORKCOVER go there talk to my
Lawyers and I was there waiting in one room then my solicitor come and said they offer you $60,000 I refused my solicitor told me was better go to MEDICAL PANEL I WON.
My solicitor told me they going to pay me all monies from February 2007 and pay weekly till you retire..
Xfor 4 years CGU administration
Wrote to my doctor that was a pointed by th boss were I had the accident not to issue any certificates " not fit to work"
After I WON in 2009 my solicitor send me a letter saying she was going CGU work cover I ask about mycompensation that nothing to do with weekly payments
To receive my weekly payments I contact the Disability minister office Was Honorable Mr.Bill Shorten only after that I start gett my weekly payments
They are in offices with a phone and they make people's life's miserable for 4 years I was like a ping pong ball been hit hard for no reason plus CGU was taxing my weekly payments .I wrote to Canberra were I got the letter saying there's no mention on WORKCOVER weekly payments been taxed so I didn't get my Lump sum were s my Lawyers told me the day before going to court a nd then to MEDICAL PANEL that if I win I get all pain and suffering Lump sum..
After I WON my solicitor said I'm joining CGU Work Cover and I can't do anything to you get another lawyer. CGU WORKCOVER never look after me at end I FIND out that CGU WORKCOVER put me on they're payments as I was working for CGU taxing my weekly payments. This was wrong from the beginning they never talk to me they got a play book they send a sick person on go run around..after I retire they said they pay for medicines I vi edit the doctor after that and the tarmac said CGU is not paying for medicins
I have suffered for the last 5 years.