There is a way around the gas in the line. When you setup the stove you lay the bottle down with the valve adjustment facing up for obvious reasons. When you are done using the stove, flip the bottle over with the valve facing down. This causes the stove to pull pressurized air instead of fuel emptying out the fuel line (let it burn until the flame goes out).
You can also avoid the sooty priming by using alcohol to prime the stove. Of course that is something else to have to carry, but a small bottle of alcohol is pretty light and saves stove fuel in the long run.
This is a messy stove to use. I'd use alcohol to prime. The superpower of this stove is the relative quietness. These single valve at the bottle designs are made to be on or off in general. I think for most people a Dragonfly or similar with two valves are more useful when doing real cooking. A whisperlite can be made to simmer but this is quite different to the instant flame response you get using a dragonfly and the needle valve at the burner. It is just something worth noting for people new to liquid fuel stoves. I have the Optimus Nova, Optimus 8R, the MSR XGK, MSR Dragonfly and the Soto Muka.
Ryan. I store my xgk inside pot so i burn all fuel inside hose and stove by flipping fuel bottle when I need to disconnect from bottle before shutting down the pump. Pumps receiver is facing up and air is sent to stove so burns all remnant of fuel is burned. Then i shut off the pump and disconnect the hose. Its not for saving fuel but keeping pots, gloves and hands clean. It just takes a few min more time.
Hey Ryan, all of your content has been super helpful as I've been going through The Mountaineers basic climbing course this year. I'm curious what kind of stove you would recommend for a Rainier climb, canister or white gas? And how would you calculate how much fuel is needed for either one, assuming a hot meal and snow melting at Camp Muir.
There is a way around the gas in the line. When you setup the stove you lay the bottle down with the valve adjustment facing up for obvious reasons. When you are done using the stove, flip the bottle over with the valve facing down. This causes the stove to pull pressurized air instead of fuel emptying out the fuel line (let it burn until the flame goes out).
You can also avoid the sooty priming by using alcohol to prime the stove. Of course that is something else to have to carry, but a small bottle of alcohol is pretty light and saves stove fuel in the long run.
Wow great 📹! very informative for folks that have never used a white gas stove
This is a messy stove to use. I'd use alcohol to prime. The superpower of this stove is the relative quietness. These single valve at the bottle designs are made to be on or off in general. I think for most people a Dragonfly or similar with two valves are more useful when doing real cooking. A whisperlite can be made to simmer but this is quite different to the instant flame response you get using a dragonfly and the needle valve at the burner. It is just something worth noting for people new to liquid fuel stoves. I have the Optimus Nova, Optimus 8R, the MSR XGK, MSR Dragonfly and the Soto Muka.
😆 I immediately was saying does turning it off go counter clockwise? 😆
I have one of the original MSR multi-fuel stoves I bought back in the 60s.
Ryan. I store my xgk inside pot so i burn all fuel inside hose and stove by flipping fuel bottle when I need to disconnect from bottle before shutting down the pump. Pumps receiver is facing up and air is sent to stove so burns all remnant of fuel is burned. Then i shut off the pump and disconnect the hose. Its not for saving fuel but keeping pots, gloves and hands clean. It just takes a few min more time.
Hey Ryan, all of your content has been super helpful as I've been going through The Mountaineers basic climbing course this year. I'm curious what kind of stove you would recommend for a Rainier climb, canister or white gas? And how would you calculate how much fuel is needed for either one, assuming a hot meal and snow melting at Camp Muir.