I'm a Deere guy. That being said, this was a clearly biased review favoring the Deere. The door is a game changer and you minimized it by saying it didn't seal well. Nah. Seals just fine.
I do not have any experience with operating a Deere, but I own Kubota and have operated for thousands of hours on jobs. Kubota is a great machine, and I believe that I could point out many advantages. I much prefer Kubota's full hydraulic pilot controls compared to electric-over-hydraulic types, as I believe that I can operate most accurately and without lag in response time. I also have the theory that fully hydraulic is going to be more reliable. I am not a big fan of more electrical / electronics. As I get older, there are some advantages that I especially appreciate about Kubota. Stepping up into the Kubota is the easiest I've experienced with the lower height of the bottom of the door opening, and the wider door opening. I spend many, many hours operating a compact track loader. That said, there are many jobsite conditions that require me to get out, and back into the machine many, many times per day. The Kubota arm wrests are very quick, and much easier to just flick up, and back down than moving a big horseshoe single piece all the way over my head, and back down every time. The Kubota arm wrests also have an excellent designed shape and padding density. Again, I'm getting older and my shoulders hate the horseshoe, and very much appreciate the Kubota design. And how about that Kubota cab space? I doubt anyone beats it, and I know that some other brands are far less spacious in every way. Leg room, elbow room, head space, all of it. I have the notion that Kubota's control switches are down low because there is plenty of room for them, and that some other brands put them up high because of a lack of space. Another important Kubota advantage over some brands (I don't know how the Deere compares on this) is that for me the pilot controls are absolutely perfectly positioned. They are exactly ergonomically correct for me. I know that some other brands are not even close to being ergonomically correct. For me, control switches on the Kubota being down low is also an advantage. I find it easier to handle those down low than having to reach up high. And about sunlight, the sunlight is more likely to blind you when you have to look up than when looking down at control switches, etc. In my opinion, that is a Kubota advantage. From a performance standpoint, I believe that Kubota is going to be very hard to beat, and will probably outperform the majority of the competition. As for reliability, based on my experience, the Kubota is second to none. I do not believe anyone can beat it's reliability. How high is the top of the Deere's cab? It looks significantly higher. On most jobs that does not matter, but on some jobs it is advantageous to be lower to go under obstacles. What about ground clearance? That does matter, and Kubota has the advantage. There are certainly many other details that could be discussed, but I know that if I were going to buy a new CTL today, it would be Kubota, 100%. My second choice would be Takeuchi. When it comes to getting maximum work done, I do not believe that any other brand will beat those two. To be fair, the Deere does have some advantages. It does appear that some maintenance components are easier to access. But, there might some trade-off with so many removable panels on the Deere. Is there a disadvantage from the standpoint of loss of overall rigidity of the machine? We never intend to have accidents, but what happens to the Deere if it makes a hard rear impact with another piece of equipment? In that situation, I believe the rigidity of the Kubota would have an advantage with its rigidity. Will some of those Deere panels become loose and rattle over time? I don't know, but I wonder. That is my two cents. I'm not a salesman of any brand. I am an owner / operator that spends countless hours doing work, operating equipment for a living.
Thanks for your information. Unfortunately we are looking at a machine specifically for mulching and so far I have noticed many people saying that the kabotas hydraulics overheat when they are worked hard with a mulcher, and unfortunately we just can't take a chance with these ridiculous prices these days to buy one and have cooling issues. We're not sure what to get tbh.
I’m an overhead door guy, someday the others will figure out the sales they are giving away. Lots of great skid steers out there. Service, parts & dealerships make the biggest difference.
I checked out loaders with these doors, and though exactly what he said, they seem flimsy, and I could create air gaps to the cab chassis just by applying a bit of pressure to the door.
nice review im a deere guy.. there is also a handle inside the cab that will release the boom in the event your machine shuts off for whatever reason. only thing that would stop you from getting out would be if something was under the boom.
Agreed. Video should be titled “why I prefer John Deere skid steers to Kubota”. I hate it when people just point out every little thing they don’t like.
The Deere the tracks pop off easy and the rear grill may as well be glass. Grill looks rock solid but back into something and find out . Zero bracing. Rub a tree or turn on a rock and the tracks pop off. I'm a not so proud owner of a deere here. 325G
I love Kubota products and I started out wanting the Kubota...until I demoed it. I hated the cab, it squeaked, the door chattered, hydraulic and engine noise above 1/2 throttle was awful. The door was way too hard to get in and out of in a hurry, especially with something other than a dirt bucket on it. The lights on the back of the cab shined directly onto the cross bar on the loader boom, which reflected a bright orange glare onto the front windshield, that crossbar also blocked a lot of the rear facing light facing work light. None of the controls or switches were in convenient places, radio and HVAC controls were behind the operator and no auto idle. The Deere is hands down the nicer machine, so much more thought out. But the Kubota is like $15-20K cheaper. The Deere is the machine you buy for yourself to run, you buy the Kubota for someone else to run.
I came here in the comments for one thing and one thing only. The Idler wheels are doing the same thing. The double flange isn’t holding the track in line any more than the single. If anything, the single allows for LESS lateral movement of the track as there is lesser space for movement between the inner sprocket guide track. At the end of the day, they’re there for tension and are not going to keep the track on under load if it’s trying to come off. I’m buying the Kubota all day. Might be more expensive to operate (apperently), but out the door Deere is going to molest you as they do. Deere is the most over priced stuff you can buy. People buy it at that price on the sole principle that it says John Deere on the side. It’s a novelty. You can’t tell me that orange machine doesn’t look 50,000 times better. It’s fucking orange dude. That’s sick.
And some how hydraulic oil costs more. Even though they both use the same type oil. Might as well compare using cheapest diesel vs most expensive diesel around. ( the John Deere advantage)
I'm going to say I prefer the battery placement on the Kubota. On my JD 320d to replace the battery the manual says to start the machine and raise the boom. I'm replacing the battery because it won't start. I'm on my third battery and the original jd battery was good. It shorted out and wouldn't take a booster. It can be done but prepare for smashed fingers. No machine is perfect. There's things I like about the JD better and things I like on the Kubota better.
Seems to me like the with the deere if you have a major issue and can't raise the boom your SOL, whether it be electrical or hyd. I haven't ran a newer deere but I hated the old ones I ran.
Im a huge Deere fan. They make fantastic machines. But I also do trust kubota. I’ve never run a skid steer so I can’t make any comments on that. But I’ve run a kubota mini excavator for a few hours and found it very comfortable. And kubota engines are very reliable, much like the yanmar engines Deere uses. I trust both the engines to be very reliable given they’re taken care of and serviced. The cab in the Deere definitely looks well thought out but I do think I’d prefer the slide up door on the kubota. I’m a short guy so headroom isn’t an issue for me. But I’d also like to be able to run equipment with the door open if needed. If I had the budget for the Deere, I’d definitely take it.
Wish I could afford one. Most of the guys I know like their New Holland skid steers because they last for a long time. They aren't cheap either, JD makes some nice stuff but you pay for a name and there no telling how long it'll last.
Kubotas are made for the weekend Baby Hueys that want to look like men. Never seen one at big job sites, usually I see them spreading mulch at someone's rose garden.
Kubota svl75-3 now has one piece cab .much quieter cab Radiators above the engine now. Serviceability is the best in class. Compare a svl75-3 and 325 g .
Raise the boom then get under it & lift the cab without blocking / propping the boom? That’ll be your last day on my job site if I catch you getting under a raised boom, empty or not, unless it’s a no kidding emergency. In your next vid., let’s compare purchase price, reliability & depreciation (resale value, not tax deduction). This would be a great help for the majority of loader owners I know: 1) run the snot out of it for 10,000 hours, or 2) buy new @ 1000 hours; particularly those of us in category 2 who want to maximize warranty time & minimize down time.
Kubota just updated their SVL 97 and have add a pressurized cab and I think they even updated the hydraulic system. Plus Kubota engines are better than Deer’s Yanmar engines cause Yanmar is junl
In the south the Deere dealers act like your bothering them to just look at a machine I will stay with Kubota their good machines and better service and treat you better
For years I have owned deere went to purchase a new machine and I couldn’t even get close to the numbers that Kubota gave me I’m talking a 20000 dollars in price between the two. no machine is worth that different in cost yes it was model to model pricing
Came across this video. It’s comical how these sales guys attempt to compare machines. I have a 97-2. It’s a flawless machine, it does what it’s suppose to. Deere makes a great machine as well. But the bottom line is tell the msrp’s of each machine. There’s a 30k plus difference in the two. If you want to spend that, no harm, have at it. The reason there doing these video’s in the first place is Deere, Cat, ad some others are loosing lots of market share to Kubota. It is what it is. I can’t justify another %40 for my use’s, your’s may differ.
Again bloatingly spewed wrong again five oh two , spewed if I'm needing to service the machine l do need to have the CAB ON THE GROUND ? What ? it's already on the ground and so is the bucket / boom assembly and bloating the wrong part of a machine here, the proper way is have a bucket on the ground to lift the cab on this type or make of machine. Go get yourself another non beef McDonald's sandwich and bloat some more.
I know video been here a minute. But as I look to purchase a skid steer this is so helpful. Thank you!
I'm a Deere guy. That being said, this was a clearly biased review favoring the Deere. The door is a game changer and you minimized it by saying it didn't seal well. Nah. Seals just fine.
He doesnt know anything about Kubota's. Its obvious. There's a latch at the front of the door on the bottom.
Literally, kubota doors do not last..they jam, rattle and after bit the doors just stay up, because there a pain.
@@HighCountrySolutionscorrect and very heavy
The deeres doors don’t seal well either
I sat in a kabota just the other day and found this style of door to be flimsy and overrated.
I do not have any experience with operating a Deere, but I own Kubota and have operated for thousands of hours on jobs. Kubota is a great machine, and I believe that I could point out many advantages. I much prefer Kubota's full hydraulic pilot controls compared to electric-over-hydraulic types, as I believe that I can operate most accurately and without lag in response time. I also have the theory that fully hydraulic is going to be more reliable. I am not a big fan of more electrical / electronics. As I get older, there are some advantages that I especially appreciate about Kubota. Stepping up into the Kubota is the easiest I've experienced with the lower height of the bottom of the door opening, and the wider door opening. I spend many, many hours operating a compact track loader. That said, there are many jobsite conditions that require me to get out, and back into the machine many, many times per day. The Kubota arm wrests are very quick, and much easier to just flick up, and back down than moving a big horseshoe single piece all the way over my head, and back down every time. The Kubota arm wrests also have an excellent designed shape and padding density. Again, I'm getting older and my shoulders hate the horseshoe, and very much appreciate the Kubota design. And how about that Kubota cab space? I doubt anyone beats it, and I know that some other brands are far less spacious in every way. Leg room, elbow room, head space, all of it. I have the notion that Kubota's control switches are down low because there is plenty of room for them, and that some other brands put them up high because of a lack of space. Another important Kubota advantage over some brands (I don't know how the Deere compares on this) is that for me the pilot controls are absolutely perfectly positioned. They are exactly ergonomically correct for me. I know that some other brands are not even close to being ergonomically correct. For me, control switches on the Kubota being down low is also an advantage. I find it easier to handle those down low than having to reach up high. And about sunlight, the sunlight is more likely to blind you when you have to look up than when looking down at control switches, etc. In my opinion, that is a Kubota advantage. From a performance standpoint, I believe that Kubota is going to be very hard to beat, and will probably outperform the majority of the competition. As for reliability, based on my experience, the Kubota is second to none. I do not believe anyone can beat it's reliability. How high is the top of the Deere's cab? It looks significantly higher. On most jobs that does not matter, but on some jobs it is advantageous to be lower to go under obstacles. What about ground clearance? That does matter, and Kubota has the advantage. There are certainly many other details that could be discussed, but I know that if I were going to buy a new CTL today, it would be Kubota, 100%. My second choice would be Takeuchi. When it comes to getting maximum work done, I do not believe that any other brand will beat those two. To be fair, the Deere does have some advantages. It does appear that some maintenance components are easier to access. But, there might some trade-off with so many removable panels on the Deere. Is there a disadvantage from the standpoint of loss of overall rigidity of the machine? We never intend to have accidents, but what happens to the Deere if it makes a hard rear impact with another piece of equipment? In that situation, I believe the rigidity of the Kubota would have an advantage with its rigidity. Will some of those Deere panels become loose and rattle over time? I don't know, but I wonder. That is my two cents. I'm not a salesman of any brand. I am an owner / operator that spends countless hours doing work, operating equipment for a living.
Thanks for your information. Unfortunately we are looking at a machine specifically for mulching and so far I have noticed many people saying that the kabotas hydraulics overheat when they are worked hard with a mulcher, and unfortunately we just can't take a chance with these ridiculous prices these days to buy one and have cooling issues. We're not sure what to get tbh.
@@shiraz1736i would say any machine is going to overheat when it isnt the right size for the job, case by case basis
I’m an overhead door guy, someday the others will figure out the sales they are giving away. Lots of great skid steers out there. Service, parts & dealerships make the biggest difference.
I checked out loaders with these doors, and though exactly what he said, they seem flimsy, and I could create air gaps to the cab chassis just by applying a bit of pressure to the door.
Bobcat guy here. I have an older machine, T190. The Kubota engine is VERY easy to service. If it wears out I’ll change to Kubota.
The JD is an awesome skid, I do hate the door as the boom has to be up or down. Sometimes it’s painful
nice review im a deere guy.. there is also a handle inside the cab that will release the boom in the event your machine shuts off for whatever reason. only thing that would stop you from getting out would be if something was under the boom.
Dude why do a comparison if your absolutely biased on deer just say I love deer and could care less about Kubota
Agreed. Video should be titled “why I prefer John Deere skid steers to Kubota”. I hate it when people just point out every little thing they don’t like.
The overhead sliding window is very common and great use here , he clearly is a JD guy
The Deere the tracks pop off easy and the rear grill may as well be glass. Grill looks rock solid but back into something and find out . Zero bracing. Rub a tree or turn on a rock and the tracks pop off. I'm a not so proud owner of a deere here. 325G
Only benefit to double flange roller is ride quality. Does not increase power to ground .
Great and informative video, thanks!
1) What is your price on the John Deere?
2) Will you deliver to Indiana?
Can you access the battery with out rasing the armed on the deere
I love Kubota products and I started out wanting the Kubota...until I demoed it. I hated the cab, it squeaked, the door chattered, hydraulic and engine noise above 1/2 throttle was awful. The door was way too hard to get in and out of in a hurry, especially with something other than a dirt bucket on it. The lights on the back of the cab shined directly onto the cross bar on the loader boom, which reflected a bright orange glare onto the front windshield, that crossbar also blocked a lot of the rear facing light facing work light. None of the controls or switches were in convenient places, radio and HVAC controls were behind the operator and no auto idle. The Deere is hands down the nicer machine, so much more thought out. But the Kubota is like $15-20K cheaper. The Deere is the machine you buy for yourself to run, you buy the Kubota for someone else to run.
Svl75-3 is totally different than -2 models. Quieter in cab than my bobcat t 66 . One piece cab . Game changer do your homework. -3 across line soon
Im a bobcat guy. I want to demo a -3 but I just wish these other companies would come out with more clear cab options for visibility.@@rontopping7811
I came here in the comments for one thing and one thing only. The Idler wheels are doing the same thing. The double flange isn’t holding the track in line any more than the single. If anything, the single allows for LESS lateral movement of the track as there is lesser space for movement between the inner sprocket guide track. At the end of the day, they’re there for tension and are not going to keep the track on under load if it’s trying to come off.
I’m buying the Kubota all day. Might be more expensive to operate (apperently), but out the door Deere is going to molest you as they do. Deere is the most over priced stuff you can buy. People buy it at that price on the sole principle that it says John Deere on the side. It’s a novelty. You can’t tell me that orange machine doesn’t look 50,000 times better. It’s fucking orange dude. That’s sick.
I like that crispy new Deere looks nice. That being said Kubota all day.
Why is that?
Videos like this make we want to buy the Kubota. Bias much coming from a Deere Dealer. 🙄
Now do a partial boom lift exit, I'll wait
And some how hydraulic oil costs more. Even though they both use the same type oil. Might as well compare using cheapest diesel vs most expensive diesel around. ( the John Deere advantage)
I'm going to say I prefer the battery placement on the Kubota. On my JD 320d to replace the battery the manual says to start the machine and raise the boom. I'm replacing the battery because it won't start. I'm on my third battery and the original jd battery was good. It shorted out and wouldn't take a booster. It can be done but prepare for smashed fingers. No machine is perfect. There's things I like about the JD better and things I like on the Kubota better.
Seems to me like the with the deere if you have a major issue and can't raise the boom your SOL, whether it be electrical or hyd. I haven't ran a newer deere but I hated the old ones I ran.
@@banffdigger Pretty much spot on. I think all skid loaders suffer from that issue but the JD is worse.
Im a huge Deere fan. They make fantastic machines. But I also do trust kubota. I’ve never run a skid steer so I can’t make any comments on that. But I’ve run a kubota mini excavator for a few hours and found it very comfortable. And kubota engines are very reliable, much like the yanmar engines Deere uses. I trust both the engines to be very reliable given they’re taken care of and serviced.
The cab in the Deere definitely looks well thought out but I do think I’d prefer the slide up door on the kubota. I’m a short guy so headroom isn’t an issue for me. But I’d also like to be able to run equipment with the door open if needed.
If I had the budget for the Deere, I’d definitely take it.
Wish I could afford one. Most of the guys I know like their New Holland skid steers because they last for a long time. They aren't cheap either, JD makes some nice stuff but you pay for a name and there no telling how long it'll last.
Does the 317 have high flow
No not available on 317. Standard flow 17gpm
Headroom is always my biggest issue. Ive got a 270JD overhead door and cant use the machine unless the door is closed or my head takes a beating.
Kubotas are made for the weekend Baby Hueys that want to look like men. Never seen one at big job sites, usually I see them spreading mulch at someone's rose garden.
Lmao, you’re a tool. I’d be surprised if you even own a basic Deere riding mower.
One other thing, anybody think this sales guy actually knows how to use these machines.
Kubota svl75-3 now has one piece cab .much quieter cab Radiators above the engine now. Serviceability is the best in class. Compare a svl75-3 and 325 g .
Yep. Very happy with mine. It's awesome in the snow too. I really like the track pattern. Cab is quiet and warm.
Ohh dear, buy a Kubota, you won’t be disappointed.
No one opens up to service on better than the Deere. Don’t own one but wish I did.
I completely agree and also hear the same from customers all the time.
Raise the boom then get under it & lift the cab without blocking / propping the boom? That’ll be your last day on my job site if I catch you getting under a raised boom, empty or not, unless it’s a no kidding emergency. In your next vid., let’s compare purchase price, reliability & depreciation (resale value, not tax deduction). This would be a great help for the majority of loader owners I know: 1) run the snot out of it for 10,000 hours, or 2) buy new @ 1000 hours; particularly those of us in category 2 who want to maximize warranty time & minimize down time.
Deere is a nice but the Kubota -3 series has cleaned up and made a much better machine.
Kubota just updated their SVL 97 and have add a pressurized cab and I think they even updated the hydraulic system. Plus Kubota engines are better than Deer’s Yanmar engines cause Yanmar is junl
In the south the Deere dealers act like your bothering them to just look at a machine I will stay with Kubota their good machines and better service and treat you better
John Deere lover
Over head doors on cabs make me feel claustrophobic!! Swing doors don't. Our Kubota tractor has terrible air-conditioning.
That may have been the most biased review or “comparison” I’ve ever watched. Never used a Deere…hundreds of hours on a Kubota…fantastic machine.
Love my John Deeres. Would not own another.!!!
They are pretty awesome! Which one do you have?
@@WesternEquipment 325G, 4052R and the 35P.
Have you ever seen deere with 10k hours?
For years I have owned deere went to purchase a new machine and I couldn’t even get close to the numbers that Kubota gave me I’m talking a 20000 dollars in price between the two. no machine is worth that different in cost yes it was model to model pricing
Came across this video. It’s comical how these sales guys attempt to compare machines. I have a 97-2. It’s a flawless machine, it does what it’s suppose to. Deere makes a great machine as well. But the bottom line is tell the msrp’s of each machine. There’s a 30k plus difference in the two. If you want to spend that, no harm, have at it. The reason there doing these video’s in the first place is Deere, Cat, ad some others are loosing lots of market share to Kubota. It is what it is. I can’t justify another %40 for my use’s, your’s may differ.
Get the Kubota
Video sponsored by Deere.
I won't buy a Deere because of their treasures of the farmers in the mid-west concerning repairs
Makes me NOT want to buy a John Deere product.
John Deere has gone "woke" . No thank you I'll buy a Takeuchi or Kubota, they might be Japanese but at least they sell equipment and not propaganda.
Clearly a Deere boy doing a review….
Again bloatingly spewed wrong again five oh two , spewed if I'm needing to service the machine l do need to have the CAB ON THE GROUND ? What ? it's already on the ground and so is the bucket / boom assembly and bloating the wrong part of a machine here, the proper way is have a bucket on the ground to lift the cab on this type or make of machine. Go get yourself another non beef McDonald's sandwich and bloat some more.