Just saying if you are underestimating the power of a 3 stack of mangos y'all just don't know! As pos 4/5 I trade all day with x3 mangos, 1 iron branch, 1 sentry/and obvserver ward, and stick with a tango. Finish the wand and then boots into whatever! ez pz trade for zoning! Lane phase won! I would suggest saving the mangos until you get rain drops or mana boots then use for clutch mana or if you are winning lane use to keep dominating and then switch to clarities and rely on your wand for burst regen and the all-stats it provides to keep you up until you hit roaming levels. Thanks Speeed!!!!!!!!!
33 became my favorite player too when I saw your video featuring his dark seer vanguard/orchid build. Miss that version of dark seer, but stoked to see a new version to play the hero
Since ti8 , I was saying this player underrated and I really love how people recognize his talent. 33 is my fav offlaner since like last 2 years already.
I play a lot of mana hungry offlane heroes and ring of health into vanguard/arcane boots are basically so synergistically good when you get them often the lane is just over or you are at the very least unkillable. Triple mango plays into this.
speed pleeeeeeaaaaase experiment with necro, I am telling you his buff was the most underrated of the patch he feels so strong even in bad necro games has great item buildup and a variety of viable build paths on top of the fact he can basicaly one shot tanks with aghs shard ulty combos, I am certain someone will start playing it soon and you will have a reason but I really urge you to try it before it becomes viral.
This was also an amazing force staff game vs riki, clock and lina stun. I'm surprised 33 didn't pick it up. Although the cast range for allies is kinda garbage without aether lens/psychic headband or sth.
18:30 can anyone tell me what this means? does it mean this only 1 time before making greaves? i tried it after watching this but i saw u can't disassemble the greaves. the only exploit on greaves i know of is it works on tinker rearm. the heal does work 1 time but the mana from greaves works.
use arcanes before grieves arrive (or lock them if the grieves components arrive earlier), when the grieves arrive and assemble, the cooldown is refreshed.
@@makdoyyamote7270 no worries, mate! Keep in mind, even though it's just once it's huge as you possibly save yourself a visit back to your base. This could mean getting to your next item a minute faster which could snowball the game in your favor. Little tricks like this sometimes are the difference between a close win or a loss.
@@makdoyyamote7270 oh I actually haven't played ranked in 5 years, but back in 2014-2015 I was really into it, highest I've gotten however was just shy of 5k spamming lone druid, my winrate with him is still like 70% in like 500 games on him (keep in mind the highest mmr back then was 7k and most pros were at 6k, so while it might look insignificant now, it felt like a big thing to me and I got to play with some pros in pubs from time to time lol). I remember farming pubs instead of studying for my highschool finals lol, don't do this shit at home bois.
why do dark seer no longer cuts waves? I remember when dark seer was meta before, dark seer player used to push waves at level 1 and then cut the 2nd wave so they could secure the next waves without spending mana on ion shell. But now I don't see people doing that anymore.
I think cause of nerfs on str items like bracrs and such. He used to cut lanes as well as axe. One must be selfish af to get those items and by that time, you're not getting me, youre getting heart and butterfly... its selfish and defensive. Everyone wants you to go greaves and pipe. If I'm playing ds I identify as Heihachi. He is dota punch skill before Marci. He is Marci before she learned to jump around. That's it.
DS Just never works for me in pubs. You want to talk free mmr it's razor all the way 21 games 20 wins even beat a smurf tinker that was like 53-6 or something its so broken i love it.
I'm sorry, he's a strong hero but this is recockulously boring to do. Like, his meta has been pretty much sustain and punch crap for 5 years or so. Pull off perpendicular walls and you will be a God in mens eyes. There was an old strat years ago where bh would show bot then go top with ds, invisible with ion shell and most likely get a kill, maybe 2. Idk if ppl are still dumb enough to just not pay the money for a sentry regardless but, here we are. If you see bh bot and are top radiant and don't have a sentry, you're doing weird things... he will make you pay. I would. Complacency is the mother of the greatest shenanigans.
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Just saying if you are underestimating the power of a 3 stack of mangos y'all just don't know! As pos 4/5 I trade all day with x3 mangos, 1 iron branch, 1 sentry/and obvserver ward, and stick with a tango. Finish the wand and then boots into whatever! ez pz trade for zoning! Lane phase won! I would suggest saving the mangos until you get rain drops or mana boots then use for clutch mana or if you are winning lane use to keep dominating and then switch to clarities and rely on your wand for burst regen and the all-stats it provides to keep you up until you hit roaming levels. Thanks Speeed!!!!!!!!!
herald question: does the mango hp regen stack?
@@nuketurnal2 bro im divine and i dont know the answer
I would suggest 2 mango 1 faerie fire stick tango ob sent. Its what ive been doing this past month ive gained like 500 mmr in 88 games as 5
@@nuketurnal2 yep
What about 9 mango on SF 🤣🤣
Holy crap I made it into a speeed video! Completely made my day. Love the content man, stay BROKEN
33 became my favorite player too when I saw your video featuring his dark seer vanguard/orchid build. Miss that version of dark seer, but stoked to see a new version to play the hero
Since ti8 , I was saying this player underrated and I really love how people recognize his talent. 33 is my fav offlaner since like last 2 years already.
@5:36 level 5 ion shell 🤯
I kinda miss old dark seer aghs . 2 ion
I play a lot of mana hungry offlane heroes and ring of health into vanguard/arcane boots are basically so synergistically good when you get them often the lane is just over or you are at the very least unkillable. Triple mango plays into this.
speed pleeeeeeaaaaase experiment with necro, I am telling you his buff was the most underrated of the patch he feels so strong even in bad necro games has great item buildup and a variety of viable build paths on top of the fact he can basicaly one shot tanks with aghs shard ulty combos, I am certain someone will start playing it soon and you will have a reason but I really urge you to try it before it becomes viral.
This was also an amazing force staff game vs riki, clock and lina stun. I'm surprised 33 didn't pick it up. Although the cast range for allies is kinda garbage without aether lens/psychic headband or sth.
18:30 can anyone tell me what this means? does it mean this only 1 time before making greaves? i tried it after watching this but i saw u can't disassemble the greaves. the only exploit on greaves i know of is it works on tinker rearm. the heal does work 1 time but the mana from greaves works.
use arcanes before grieves arrive (or lock them if the grieves components arrive earlier), when the grieves arrive and assemble, the cooldown is refreshed.
@@yoanmihov5143 oh so it was only 1 time. thanks for pointing it out bro!
@@makdoyyamote7270 no worries, mate! Keep in mind, even though it's just once it's huge as you possibly save yourself a visit back to your base. This could mean getting to your next item a minute faster which could snowball the game in your favor. Little tricks like this sometimes are the difference between a close win or a loss.
@@yoanmihov5143 this kind of mindset is what separates to high ranks and low rank like me.
@@makdoyyamote7270 oh I actually haven't played ranked in 5 years, but back in 2014-2015 I was really into it, highest I've gotten however was just shy of 5k spamming lone druid, my winrate with him is still like 70% in like 500 games on him (keep in mind the highest mmr back then was 7k and most pros were at 6k, so while it might look insignificant now, it felt like a big thing to me and I got to play with some pros in pubs from time to time lol). I remember farming pubs instead of studying for my highschool finals lol, don't do this shit at home bois.
1 more thing, Ion shell damage stacks for multiple ally/unit.
DUDE, mangos are op. I generally play off lane, and I can't see myself not buying them at all on that role.
the amount of hooks missed by that pudge xD
Yo!!! Speeed lets goo
“As hell vac-off the clock to finish him” 😆
Im using this strat, and its good, thanks 33, hope gaben will not nerf mangos
Ha Nerfed XD
This plays so bad against bloodstone razor and viper, so not a very good build until those 2 get nerfed
@Speeed's love affair with 33 continues!
It seems there is no consensus on talent tree besides vacuum aoe
With Mars building damage items he can’t Even solo someone in the arena feelsbad
why do dark seer no longer cuts waves? I remember when dark seer was meta before, dark seer player used to push waves at level 1 and then cut the 2nd wave so they could secure the next waves without spending mana on ion shell. But now I don't see people doing that anymore.
Could you expand on this strat? I think I would try this!
I think cause of nerfs on str items like bracrs and such. He used to cut lanes as well as axe. One must be selfish af to get those items and by that time, you're not getting me, youre getting heart and butterfly... its selfish and defensive. Everyone wants you to go greaves and pipe. If I'm playing ds I identify as Heihachi. He is dota punch skill before Marci. He is Marci before she learned to jump around. That's it.
I think is still good when the lane is unplayable
I think it's situational, lots of 33's recent replays have him cutting waves, just depends on the game.
Because you need to pressure the carry. You pressure the carry you delay his items.
naa, this hero is not BROKEN! I play the other 99 heroes that are BROKEN
11:42 LoL
His playstyle is a lot like SMASH
I thought greaves were trash per that speed guy.
33 buys a wraith band at min 25 so when he get aghanims he can hit enemies faster
Omg every video is free mmr,, omg wow click now!
Nice
Im here cuz cavern crawl
DS Just never works for me in pubs. You want to talk free mmr it's razor all the way 21 games 20 wins even beat a smurf tinker that was like 53-6 or something its so broken i love it.
aight, ima unsubscribe. this guy thinks everything is broken and has 100% winrate. right
30 lvl ds, over 5k games. anyone skipping dominator combo is legit trash. This hero is utter garbage without your mini RP combination. That's it.
Clickbait
Speed please play in SEA server
1st on a Speeed video let's go
8:30 looks like he didn't want to contest the kill with his shell and let it for his midlaner?
I'm sorry, he's a strong hero but this is recockulously boring to do. Like, his meta has been pretty much sustain and punch crap for 5 years or so. Pull off perpendicular walls and you will be a God in mens eyes. There was an old strat years ago where bh would show bot then go top with ds, invisible with ion shell and most likely get a kill, maybe 2. Idk if ppl are still dumb enough to just not pay the money for a sentry regardless but, here we are. If you see bh bot and are top radiant and don't have a sentry, you're doing weird things... he will make you pay. I would. Complacency is the mother of the greatest shenanigans.
Dark Seer needs more love! A hero for thinkers and big brains.
Never played him, you think so? I thought he was ez, since he got one star complexity
That comment so funny