Morrowkai is the Best Backup, he let's his Deads Destroy Speartons and even kneels all Archidons for 2 Seconds which saves you from a lot of Arrows, Xiphos is a free Rage, he can also be played with Undead and help them attack Faster, you can use Rage again as a spell to continue it all the time
@@TryToCallMeJohn Zero clue what you are saying about Marrowkai... With Xiphos, you need to spend 300 crystal first, and not be able to get more important upgrades for the upgrade duration JUST to get a rage ability.
@@CompetitiveSWS Fight Xiphos with Archers then,and Marrowkai can attack,summon 4 deads a time,get 6 hands out of the ground,and get the *kindnapping soul*.PS,fight archers with giants,try.Thera= ifinity healing wisp,ok?
Are we js gonna ignore how bro says every unit is good in its own way?Thats honestly rly cool most people who put units in c tier they say they are ass and other stuff but you are a calm guy
Thanks! I think it is key to understand that every unit has a job, and that they should not be only compared to basic stuff like Archidons and Speartons.
@@CompetitiveSWShonestly i dont even care whats meta i just do random challenges i think about like using the stick war 2 chaos units or just classic stick war 1 deck..or try beat the opponent with just miners(that achivement took me 4 days to do)
Only thing I don’t agree is MarrowKai in C tier. If you play with deads or a great strategy, he can use Hell Fist to hit the weak unit like archidon and eclipsor. At least it should be in A or B tier
@@Stdirewl at the time of making this video, Vamp had not been nerfed so even hitting a backlines with TT marrowkai would not do much as it was deck dependant.
I use Bombers alot in 2v2 multiplayer matches with Summoning staff and stall with my army waiting for overtime while taking care of opponent's statue by using my bombers one-by-one.
Magikills are weak because they cannot protect themselves when the enemy gets too close. But as a spellcaster, they are always delegated to a supportive role, with their utility being minion summoning and explosive spells. Sounds like offense utility. However, this doesn’t stop them from supporting each other. So if done correctly, a mass Magikill army will be much more exponential in power than even a multiplicative Archidon army. With Mana Burst and Temple 2 for cooldown reduction, there is always a Magikill who didn’t use a cooldown yet. So they might as well protect the other Magikills with it. If you mass enough Magikills, you have minions as a frontline and thus the Magikill can fulfill their support role. In other words, a Magikill army power grows exponentially on a geometric graph, while a dedicated combat unit army has a straight linear slope. Plus, Magikill AI are idiots. User control is extremely advised. Creativity even more so. One tactic I tried is putting the Magikill army on group Hold behind the statue, putting their minions on group Attack, hoping to capture the center tower and group Hold the minions there. Not to mention, Magikills are expensive… 400 gold and 400 crystals? The Brilliance enchantment helps by its 25% discount on magic units (Magikills too), but their value grows exponentially if they are productive (alive and doing) and surviving. One Magikill can potentially do more than the total value of a 400 gold and 400 crystal unit. Then again, no one’s got time to calculate the individual worth of Magikills using such chaotic algebra (Magikill numbers, how many minions produced, how many kills, etc. minus how many deaths, how many ineffective minion deaths, etc.) on the spot. Combat units don’t have that luxury of out-of-combat labor that supportive units like miners and spellcasters do. Their worth stagnates when there’s no one to fight. Because of their supportive worth growing out-of-combat, Magikills should be like an A- or S-tier, because their utility as the dedicated offensive spellcaster backs up the primary frontline (stunning explosions) or adds to them (minions). However, creative application allows their value to grow exponentially, with some uses being out-of-combat labor too. A worthy investment that yields more gain if you do it right. And it’s just as difficult as economics.
The thing is, you HAVE to get a mass of magikill otherwise a lone spear can easily do massive damage to the magikill and maybe even kill it. Bringing swords fixes that problem, but they will force you to get your magikill much later. By the time the first one comes out, the enemy much more population. Also, when this video was released, a bunch of counters other then tanks in the backlines were not meta due to vamp. Now that Vamp got nerfed, those counters to magikill are back in the meta. This includes stuff like: volt armor storm, acid rain, tt blazing toxic dead. All of these are new counters which did not even exist before at the time of making this video. If I was to make this video again, and the top 10s again, Magikill would probably be low D tier.
Kytchu does 50 heavy damage per hit from a range with CW. Volley can delete backlines. Kytchu makes repairing your archidon stack easy peasy. Kytchu has lots of health and a great dodge ability to escape melee generals. Volley on a melee general in your backlines deletes it.
@@Speedytaco125 As I said in the video, Shadowrath scaling is terrible compared to Archidons. Not to mention you cut the Shadowrath DPS in half by fixate breaking.
@@Speedytaco125 I am a shadowrath main and they suck. Its extremely hard to pull off. Their forge scaling sucks and they got hit with many nerfs. Also shadowrath get annihilated by generals
Melee deads are extremely underatted. Their dps for cost and dps for pop is insane, so maybe top of B tier or lower end of A tier imo. Also eclipsor I'd say can go S tier as many eclipsor decks use scorch and snow squall.
Sicklewrath is only good against swordwrath and crawlers. But that is it. It is useless against EVERYTHING else, and very weak to any form of splash or any heavy unit. I guess it can be used to snipe (target a certain player, kind of like stream sniping but they ain't streaming) swordwrath users.
Не согласен во многом. гигант лучше пробощённого гиганта, яротени (ниньзя) сильны, но из-за стоимости, явно должны располагаться ниже. Зомби способны уничтожить всё до чего прикоснуться. Маррокай на самом деле силён, если только составить правильную колоду. Токсичные мертвецы не так используемы, но они могут превращать врагов в зомби, что делает так, что к ним не подойти. Асхис ужасный генерал, едва ли лучше Зарека, и уж точно лучше Маррокая. Бомбардировщики больше бесят а не приносят пользы. Мечников я ноже не назвал бы хорошим юнитом. Ну а от сочетания "спартанцы, лучники, китчу" уже блевать хочется. А шахтёры должны быть в SS тире.
Гигант не лучше Порабощенного Гиганта. Вам нужен гигантский апгрейд, чтобы даже использовать гиганта, так как в противном случае его соотношение здоровья к населению ужасно по сравнению с Копьями (Спартанцами) и другими танками. Даже с гигантским улучшением, гигант все еще ужасен. Вы не можете использовать его в черепашьих колодах из-за того, что Китчу и Архидон (лучник) являются метой (используется часто). Порабощенный гигант может убивать стаи архидонов (лучников) Shadowrath (Ниндзя) не силен. Как я уже упоминал в видео, вы можете сократить их урон в секунду вдвое, просто пройдя по ним. Единственная причина, по которой Shadowrath (Ninja) находятся на B уровне, заключается в том, что они не так уж плохи и могут работать в некоторых колодах Riprider (кавалерии). Зомби очень слабы к колодам Китчу/Архидон (Генерал Лучников/Лучник). Они никогда не выиграют у хорошего игрока, использующего эту колоду. Марроукай (Зомби-Генерал) силен, если вы соберете правильную колоду, но у него много контров. Душа вампира (Vampire Mythic) - один из таких жетонов. То же самое с гигантской стаей архидонов (лучников) Toxic Zombie (Ядовитый зомби) совсем не хорош. Ему также противостоит Vampiric Soul (Vampire Mythic), и вы можете вонзить Spearton (Spartan) в лицо зомби. Арчис (бывший генерал лучников) очень хорош. Он является противовесом Eclipsors (Летающий демонический лучник) и неплохо справляется с Kytchu (Генерал лучников) Посмотрите мое руководство по бомбардировщикам, чтобы узнать, насколько хороши бомбардировщики. Майнеры не относятся к S-уровню, так как S-уровень предназначен только для сверхмощных юнитов. Уровень B предназначен для более сбалансированных юнитов. Напоминаем, что это не мой тир-лист, а тир-лист топ-5 игроков мира. Извините за плохой русский, я пользуюсь переводчиком.
If kytchu doesnt have that ability to transform into tower zap 2.0 she would be A tier . It should not be like that i hope devs fix that thing cuz it should be used for back line targeting . Xiphos is not good because sowrds are the basic units we are not using swords in mid or late game.and also spearos ability that can slow units down makes him better than xiphos not states. Nice video and i enjoy that . Lets hope they nerf illuminate
Toxic Dead C tier??? I would rate them an S because I pretty much dominate 1v1 ranked with my Toxic Dead deck with Juggerknights to tank, along with Toxic Totality and Rune Of Reanimation, it counters Archidon with Blazing Bolts and Voltaic Spark and even Speartons with Spiritons and Enchanted Pike, so basically it almost counters every order deck tbh.
@@liandronierras9266 Brother in Christ, you dominate in bronze. This ain't a bronze tierlist. This is the top 100 tierlist. Toxic Deads are ONLY useful in Dead Spam, and nothing else.
Giants in D tier!? It seems you've never met a skilled player who knows how to use them.. believe me you would be easily overwhelmed by someone who knows how to use giants. Then the Shadowraths in B tier.. This troop deserves at least an A tier but due to their cost they are very underrated
First: Giant's did not have the health buff at the time. Giant's were only really useful against Swordrip decks, but setting that up was hard at the time of making this video. Second: at the time of making this video, Shadowrath did not have the super fast movement speed.
Let alone having great stats, archers and speartons have everything to be the best units in the game. The army control options and the unit A.I suck, so such mobility allows the most efficient plays. Economy grows way too quickly and easily that there's no difficulties pumping out those consistently. And there is almost no early game threat, the cheap melees are mostly horrible without the help of spells and training queue screws the entire early plays. It has been like that since the beginning of the alpha test, and i dont know why people largely fixate the issue on UC and stat numbers.
@@frontiliasd167 Man, you SE worshippers are not thinking much anymore. There is no way to ever change the queue system without messing up the game. Want to make it melee and ranged? Now swordcher is meta and all sword rush decks besides that are dead. Want to make it that way Deads have their separate queue? Now you killed Deadspam. Changing queue system does nothing but create new metas. People fixate on unit balance since we already like the gameplay style of Stick War Saga, but want it to have a more diverse meta.
Sorry if this is a stupid question to ask, but if you have seen footage of the completed, yet unreleased SW Saga generals - Wrathnar, Magis and Mera - what would you rate them on the tier list?
Imo (which this tierlist is not) Wrathnar would be a low B tier, probarly right next to Spearos. Magis (at least the one that was leaked) would easily be S tier, probably better then kytchu. Mera would be C tier. But that is just my opinion, and not the rest of the team's.
@@CompetitiveSWS Ik it's just your opinion, but why would you rank magis in s tier? Wouldn't his slow speed, and vulnerability to UC melee generals and e giants make him easier to kill compared to kytchu?
@@E1820-g8y Have you seen his base stats? 50 damage and 1000 health is CRAZY! That and the great abilities (OP as ever abilities if the enemy does not have vamp) pair to make a very strong general. I am also pretty sure he is cheaper then atreyos as well!
@@CompetitiveSWS Fair enough. Though with that being said, I think the 1000 health is meant for his campaign boss variant iirc. Speaking of new characters, have you thought about making a video about card progression? In other words, a video where you teach new players about tips and tricks for unlocking new cards efficiently? Also, is there another way I can talk to you without having to use this comment section?
@@E1820-g8y First: probably is the boss stats, but we have not got a single leak of Magis without him having that high health and damage. Second: There is no way I would make a full video on how to get through progression quickly. I might make a youtube short for it later. Third: We might make a discord server later.
@@goldy_thegoldfish I got the current rank 1, former rank 1, and former rank 3 to make the rankings. At the time of making this video, this was literally the peak tierlist (besides bombers ranking)
@StickGeneral-o2r Bro can't even spell it correctly 😭 Crawler gets hard countered by Archidon with CW if you have skill. Juggerknight is heavily overshadowed by Spearton + Early Game can be abused very much.
Bro try kai with juggarnaut army it is very good😊and some spells too I will tell you the deck ok? Any miner, juggernaut, miner haste heavy healing ward , rune of reanimation , spirit deads, toxic totality, marrowkai Try these in a battle 😊
ngl The Giant not Enslaved its powerfull actually. If you know old zombie appocalypse deck Giants so good to summon zombies by their high damage + toxicty
And if u want to know my decks there down The boomer deck boomers and speartion The strat is to use boomers at start and speartions at end Its my frabet Ambush deck sickle wraft and arcidons The strat is to ambush Ambush 2 kycho and sickle wrafts arcidons and flaming arrows The strat is to use sicke wraft are arcidons at first and once u have innofe money use kyco and abilatids Flaming ambush sickle wraft and arcidons with flaming arrows.
@@castillioauden5387 "Im a ambush guy"????? Do you mean you only play against bot ambush levels or you attack your enemies in multiplayer. If you are talking about playing against bots, this is a 1v1 competitive tierlist, not 2v2 or singleplayer or anything else. If you are talking about how you "ambush" your enemies in multiplayer 1v1, sicklewrath suck since the only thing they are good at is beating sword start. After the start though, they just straight up lose due to their squishy health and terrible damage against heavy. Giants (chaos giant) suck since their damage is based on which attack animation they get (the club swing animation is much faster then the body slam animation, resulting in it being RNG for how good your dps is) and their health is very bad for being a frontline unit. Egiants are not bad since they have around the same tanking power of the normal giant (only slightly weaker) and can completely wipe out backlines. Egiants would have easily be top of A tier (imo) if kytchu was not meta (targeted volley is crazy) and they had less bugs.
100%! Meric has both a bubble and a shield, allowing for the Meric to do multiple jobs. Thera only has healing abilities, and a I-Frame for units, but Thera can not use any abilities during FoTF. Also, it is much harder to kill 3-5 Merics then it is to kill 1 Thera.
@@Phoenix-Neon At the time of making this video, Meric is decent only due to it's shield and very high Kytchu healing. Meric shield can block volleys from Kytchu and stop endless statue volley as well.
Sickle wrath is not bad it's so cheap and I can actually get an even army and the giant is good too talk bad about the giant and will send you to jesus
The only thing sicklewrath are good at is countering sword start. But after the start, they just get destroyed. I guess they do a slightly decent job against crawlers too.
hes right and im at 2k don't even think first giant is a just like a heavy tank and it can hit a lot of units and at D??? It has to be B and lot more dumb ranking units u did make
@@Nothing99113 First: good heavy DPS can be found in a lot of other units for cheaper costs, easier to protect, and more mobile (allowing for it to attack/retreat better) Second: This is not my tierlist. This is a mix of 4 people's tierlists (Spas: Current Top 1, Jenny: Former Top 3, Neko: Former Top 1 in case you are curious) This is their tierlist averaged out. The only thing that is wrong at the time of making this video is that Bombers should have been top of B tier instead of A tier.
@@CompetitiveSWS main reason. Miners at B. They’re an S right away. Both of them. You need either one of them in every strategy. You can’t say the same with archers, speartons or kytchu
@@SemAlce As I said, S tier is for Over Powered stuff, and B tier is for Balanced Stuff. S tier is only for things that are good because of the meta (like Spears being meta thus why Swordwrath are high on the list) or if it is too strong and needs a nerf. Miners and Enslaved Miners both balanced. Needing something does not make it overpowered.
Who decide eclipsor is A tier it still the best unit no matter what. A trade off dps and pop for the ability to counter 90% of the unit, having ridiculous amount of hp and being almost unkillable make them the best unit. They are hard to use but once u got a hord of them it impossible for them to die. Straight S tier and #2 best unit maybe #1 if spear got nerfed more.
Kytchu is just too strong lol. UC Kytchu + Stack of Archidons is very strong against Eclipsors. Eclipsors are still very strong, which is why they are in A tier.
I think bro has only been playing for 4 days thats why he said OH ALL GENERALS ALL F TIERS AND TRASH UNITS LIKE SWORDWRATH ARE S TIER like shut up there not that good
@@Emojishort-h2x You have the balls to say that you know better then the current rank 1, former rank 1, and former rank 3? If you really think you know better, go play against them.
This guy is a GM, he knows what he's talking about, also, swordwrath are one of the best units in the game while being balanced, while a lot of the generals aren't even worth bringing, you're clearly the one that's been playing for 4 days
@@CompetitiveSWS no I didn't meant I'm better than those but sword wrath is way too high tier also eclipsor is way too I mean eclipsor is good if the opponent lacks ranged but c'mon not that high
Thera in D tier cuz that's what's gonna go in her after this video
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Literally not at all, i used it in my dead deck.
It was good to revive them just for 10 second. Eventually the dead will die too,but still good
Morrowkai is the Best Backup, he let's his Deads Destroy Speartons and even kneels all Archidons for 2 Seconds which saves you from a lot of Arrows, Xiphos is a free Rage, he can also be played with Undead and help them attack Faster, you can use Rage again as a spell to continue it all the time
@@TryToCallMeJohn Zero clue what you are saying about Marrowkai...
With Xiphos, you need to spend 300 crystal first, and not be able to get more important upgrades for the upgrade duration JUST to get a rage ability.
@@CompetitiveSWS Fight Xiphos with Archers then,and Marrowkai can attack,summon 4 deads a time,get 6 hands out of the ground,and get the *kindnapping soul*.PS,fight archers with giants,try.Thera= ifinity healing wisp,ok?
B-class miner? The only economic tool at the present time is like in real life, without money we will have nothing.
@@Photinati B tier is for balanced. Miners are balanced, but worse then E miners
Tower bonuses
@@jaypeemendoza3175 What does that have to do with anything?
@@CompetitiveSWS idk really
@@jaypeemendoza3175 Thas crazy
Are we js gonna ignore how bro says every unit is good in its own way?Thats honestly rly cool most people who put units in c tier they say they are ass and other stuff but you are a calm guy
Thanks! I think it is key to understand that every unit has a job, and that they should not be only compared to basic stuff like Archidons and Speartons.
Ye no problem bro lol!Also i subbed to you@@CompetitiveSWS
@@CompetitiveSWShonestly i dont even care whats meta i just do random challenges i think about like using the stick war 2 chaos units or just classic stick war 1 deck..or try beat the opponent with just miners(that achivement took me 4 days to do)
@@dave22732 You know you can get the achievements in single player too, right?
@@dave22732 Thanks for the sub!
Only thing I don’t agree is MarrowKai in C tier. If you play with deads or a great strategy, he can use Hell Fist to hit the weak unit like archidon and eclipsor. At least it should be in A or B tier
@@Stdirewl at the time of making this video, Vamp had not been nerfed so even hitting a backlines with TT marrowkai would not do much as it was deck dependant.
I use Bombers alot in 2v2 multiplayer matches with Summoning staff and stall with my army waiting for overtime while taking care of opponent's statue by using my bombers one-by-one.
@@LatestEcer Cool... This is a 1v1 tierlist
cool but i like using speartons like alomst everytimes even i did make a army of speartons for a final attack
V1 mean you will do tier list for spells or something or in future rank units if they get rebalanced
Might do spell/enchant tierlists. I WILL do more Unit Tierlists in the future as the meta changes more and more.
I dont wanna watch the video,i am here to subscribe i know that you really need it
@@Corruptsarge Thanks, but you should still watch the video!
@@CompetitiveSWS Welcome
I am lazy to watch full video sorry
@@Corruptsarge At least play it in the background
@@CompetitiveSWS it's okay but I got to work now
Magikills are weak because they cannot protect themselves when the enemy gets too close. But as a spellcaster, they are always delegated to a supportive role, with their utility being minion summoning and explosive spells. Sounds like offense utility.
However, this doesn’t stop them from supporting each other. So if done correctly, a mass Magikill army will be much more exponential in power than even a multiplicative Archidon army. With Mana Burst and Temple 2 for cooldown reduction, there is always a Magikill who didn’t use a cooldown yet. So they might as well protect the other Magikills with it. If you mass enough Magikills, you have minions as a frontline and thus the Magikill can fulfill their support role. In other words, a Magikill army power grows exponentially on a geometric graph, while a dedicated combat unit army has a straight linear slope.
Plus, Magikill AI are idiots. User control is extremely advised. Creativity even more so. One tactic I tried is putting the Magikill army on group Hold behind the statue, putting their minions on group Attack, hoping to capture the center tower and group Hold the minions there.
Not to mention, Magikills are expensive… 400 gold and 400 crystals? The Brilliance enchantment helps by its 25% discount on magic units (Magikills too), but their value grows exponentially if they are productive (alive and doing) and surviving. One Magikill can potentially do more than the total value of a 400 gold and 400 crystal unit. Then again, no one’s got time to calculate the individual worth of Magikills using such chaotic algebra (Magikill numbers, how many minions produced, how many kills, etc. minus how many deaths, how many ineffective minion deaths, etc.) on the spot. Combat units don’t have that luxury of out-of-combat labor that supportive units like miners and spellcasters do. Their worth stagnates when there’s no one to fight.
Because of their supportive worth growing out-of-combat, Magikills should be like an A- or S-tier, because their utility as the dedicated offensive spellcaster backs up the primary frontline (stunning explosions) or adds to them (minions). However, creative application allows their value to grow exponentially, with some uses being out-of-combat labor too.
A worthy investment that yields more gain if you do it right. And it’s just as difficult as economics.
The thing is, you HAVE to get a mass of magikill otherwise a lone spear can easily do massive damage to the magikill and maybe even kill it. Bringing swords fixes that problem, but they will force you to get your magikill much later. By the time the first one comes out, the enemy much more population.
Also, when this video was released, a bunch of counters other then tanks in the backlines were not meta due to vamp. Now that Vamp got nerfed, those counters to magikill are back in the meta. This includes stuff like: volt armor storm, acid rain, tt blazing toxic dead. All of these are new counters which did not even exist before at the time of making this video. If I was to make this video again, and the top 10s again, Magikill would probably be low D tier.
Good job I like and subscribe so keep up the good work brother 👍👍🤗
@@TheonlyUnitedempire Thank you Brother in Christ
Kytchu would be way lower without the tower volley glitch. Almost evey general wins against kytchu without the glitch.
Kytchu does 50 heavy damage per hit from a range with CW. Volley can delete backlines. Kytchu makes repairing your archidon stack easy peasy. Kytchu has lots of health and a great dodge ability to escape melee generals. Volley on a melee general in your backlines deletes it.
I actually kinda like the shadowrath, the can be good for taking out a big group an archers if you get a horde of em
@@Speedytaco125 As I said in the video, Shadowrath scaling is terrible compared to Archidons. Not to mention you cut the Shadowrath DPS in half by fixate breaking.
@@Speedytaco125 I am a shadowrath main and they suck. Its extremely hard to pull off. Their forge scaling sucks and they got hit with many nerfs. Also shadowrath get annihilated by generals
@@shadowstickwar Well said
@@CompetitiveSWS oh yeah, I guess I missed that part
I would like Shadowraths (and also another units) gets buffet so they have a chance in this archidon meta.
Melee deads are extremely underatted. Their dps for cost and dps for pop is insane, so maybe top of B tier or lower end of A tier imo. Also eclipsor I'd say can go S tier as many eclipsor decks use scorch and snow squall.
A giant stack of Archidons can mow down any tank that an Eclipsor deck can send out
@@CompetitiveSWS Snow Squall and Scorch will annihilate those archers.
@@shadowstickwar Go try it against Spas, Nekomancer or Yasin then
@@CompetitiveSWS Bruh they will win no matter what I do
@@shadowstickwar Correct. Then ask then to use Deads. They will NOT win if you do not play terrible.
LOL the marro on 2:58 was still funny though they fix it🤣
@@Zentrou84 They should make that a skin for the Marrowkai. "Wingless"
Some reasons I use the sicklewrath and I somehow won
Edit: Won a lot. I face a lot of good players and still won without losing.
Sicklewrath is only good against swordwrath and crawlers. But that is it. It is useless against EVERYTHING else, and very weak to any form of splash or any heavy unit. I guess it can be used to snipe (target a certain player, kind of like stream sniping but they ain't streaming) swordwrath users.
@@CompetitiveSWS I didnt stream snipe. Sicklewrath is a very good unit with Riptor.
Miner is S
Swordwrath is D
Archeridon is C
Spearton is A
Magikill is S
Giant is B
You should never make a tier list in your entire life buddy
@@إيهموليد-د9ت Harsh, but true lol
@@إيهموليد-د9ت you should never go youtube buddy
@@GantuyaBataa you should never even think of commenting on anything buddy
@@إيهموليد-د9ت ?????
ngl giants are pretty good they kinda deserve C tier since with toxic totality and rune of reanimation you get a lot of zombies in a matter of seconds
@@pillowhead696 There is much better ways to get a bunch of Zombies using RoR
Не согласен во многом. гигант лучше пробощённого гиганта, яротени (ниньзя) сильны, но из-за стоимости, явно должны располагаться ниже. Зомби способны уничтожить всё до чего прикоснуться. Маррокай на самом деле силён, если только составить правильную колоду. Токсичные мертвецы не так используемы, но они могут превращать врагов в зомби, что делает так, что к ним не подойти. Асхис ужасный генерал, едва ли лучше Зарека, и уж точно лучше Маррокая. Бомбардировщики больше бесят а не приносят пользы. Мечников я ноже не назвал бы хорошим юнитом. Ну а от сочетания "спартанцы, лучники, китчу" уже блевать хочется. А шахтёры должны быть в SS тире.
Гигант не лучше Порабощенного Гиганта. Вам нужен гигантский апгрейд, чтобы даже использовать гиганта, так как в противном случае его соотношение здоровья к населению ужасно по сравнению с Копьями (Спартанцами) и другими танками. Даже с гигантским улучшением, гигант все еще ужасен. Вы не можете использовать его в черепашьих колодах из-за того, что Китчу и Архидон (лучник) являются метой (используется часто). Порабощенный гигант может убивать стаи архидонов (лучников)
Shadowrath (Ниндзя) не силен. Как я уже упоминал в видео, вы можете сократить их урон в секунду вдвое, просто пройдя по ним. Единственная причина, по которой Shadowrath (Ninja) находятся на B уровне, заключается в том, что они не так уж плохи и могут работать в некоторых колодах Riprider (кавалерии).
Зомби очень слабы к колодам Китчу/Архидон (Генерал Лучников/Лучник). Они никогда не выиграют у хорошего игрока, использующего эту колоду.
Марроукай (Зомби-Генерал) силен, если вы соберете правильную колоду, но у него много контров. Душа вампира (Vampire Mythic) - один из таких жетонов. То же самое с гигантской стаей архидонов (лучников)
Toxic Zombie (Ядовитый зомби) совсем не хорош. Ему также противостоит Vampiric Soul (Vampire Mythic), и вы можете вонзить Spearton (Spartan) в лицо зомби.
Арчис (бывший генерал лучников) очень хорош. Он является противовесом Eclipsors (Летающий демонический лучник) и неплохо справляется с Kytchu (Генерал лучников)
Посмотрите мое руководство по бомбардировщикам, чтобы узнать, насколько хороши бомбардировщики.
Майнеры не относятся к S-уровню, так как S-уровень предназначен только для сверхмощных юнитов. Уровень B предназначен для более сбалансированных юнитов.
Напоминаем, что это не мой тир-лист, а тир-лист топ-5 игроков мира.
Извините за плохой русский, я пользуюсь переводчиком.
If kytchu doesnt have that ability to transform into tower zap 2.0 she would be A tier . It should not be like that i hope devs fix that thing cuz it should be used for back line targeting .
Xiphos is not good because sowrds are the basic units we are not using swords in mid or late game.and also spearos ability that can slow units down makes him better than xiphos not states.
Nice video and i enjoy that . Lets hope they nerf illuminate
"Lets hope they nerf illuminate"
Nah man, I hope they nerf Sickewrath
@@muhammedcelik9411 I never said that Kytchu needed volley.
I subed, Btw What is The Meaning of S in S tier???
@@VanshNMT Thanks for the sub! S tier is for the OP stuff. If you mean what does the S mean, it means super or something like that.
Toxic Dead C tier??? I would rate them an S because I pretty much dominate 1v1 ranked with my Toxic Dead deck with Juggerknights to tank, along with Toxic Totality and Rune Of Reanimation, it counters Archidon with Blazing Bolts and Voltaic Spark and even Speartons with Spiritons and Enchanted Pike, so basically it almost counters every order deck tbh.
@@liandronierras9266 Brother in Christ, you dominate in bronze. This ain't a bronze tierlist. This is the top 100 tierlist. Toxic Deads are ONLY useful in Dead Spam, and nothing else.
ye alright, but I still don't think they're half that bad, they counter some light units, especially along with Rune Of Reanimation.
@@liandronierras9266 Which is why they are in C tier
@@CompetitiveSWS aight
Toxic dead’s are rlly underrated,I like them
Giants in D tier!? It seems you've never met a skilled player who knows how to use them.. believe me you would be easily overwhelmed by someone who knows how to use giants.
Then the Shadowraths in B tier.. This troop deserves at least an A tier but due to their cost they are very underrated
First: Giant's did not have the health buff at the time. Giant's were only really useful against Swordrip decks, but setting that up was hard at the time of making this video.
Second: at the time of making this video, Shadowrath did not have the super fast movement speed.
Let alone having great stats, archers and speartons have everything to be the best units in the game. The army control options and the unit A.I suck, so such mobility allows the most efficient plays. Economy grows way too quickly and easily that there's no difficulties pumping out those consistently. And there is almost no early game threat, the cheap melees are mostly horrible without the help of spells and training queue screws the entire early plays.
It has been like that since the beginning of the alpha test, and i dont know why people largely fixate the issue on UC and stat numbers.
@@frontiliasd167
Man, you SE worshippers are not thinking much anymore.
There is no way to ever change the queue system without messing up the game. Want to make it melee and ranged? Now swordcher is meta and all sword rush decks besides that are dead. Want to make it that way Deads have their separate queue? Now you killed Deadspam. Changing queue system does nothing but create new metas. People fixate on unit balance since we already like the gameplay style of Stick War Saga, but want it to have a more diverse meta.
@@CompetitiveSWS no idea why you think i praise the queue. I was just expressing my thoughts why those twos are so good, this is a tier list video.
Is this uploaded to tiermaker?
@@MihajloStankovic-wn7jq the template is
How is archidons better than eclipsors?
Swordwrath isn't A he's c the giant running bird isn't A it's b archer is S so is Lance your right
"Giant running bird"
Sorry if this is a stupid question to ask, but if you have seen footage of the completed, yet unreleased SW Saga generals - Wrathnar, Magis and Mera - what would you rate them on the tier list?
Imo (which this tierlist is not) Wrathnar would be a low B tier, probarly right next to Spearos. Magis (at least the one that was leaked) would easily be S tier, probably better then kytchu. Mera would be C tier. But that is just my opinion, and not the rest of the team's.
@@CompetitiveSWS Ik it's just your opinion, but why would you rank magis in s tier? Wouldn't his slow speed, and vulnerability to UC melee generals and e giants make him easier to kill compared to kytchu?
@@E1820-g8y Have you seen his base stats? 50 damage and 1000 health is CRAZY! That and the great abilities (OP as ever abilities if the enemy does not have vamp) pair to make a very strong general. I am also pretty sure he is cheaper then atreyos as well!
@@CompetitiveSWS Fair enough. Though with that being said, I think the 1000 health is meant for his campaign boss variant iirc. Speaking of new characters, have you thought about making a video about card progression? In other words, a video where you teach new players about tips and tricks for unlocking new cards efficiently? Also, is there another way I can talk to you without having to use this comment section?
@@E1820-g8y First: probably is the boss stats, but we have not got a single leak of Magis without him having that high health and damage.
Second: There is no way I would make a full video on how to get through progression quickly. I might make a youtube short for it later.
Third: We might make a discord server later.
The medic is A not b bomber and flying units aren't A they are like c
How so??? (lol)
Nahh don’t let bro cook again
@@goldy_thegoldfish I got the current rank 1, former rank 1, and former rank 3 to make the rankings. At the time of making this video, this was literally the peak tierlist (besides bombers ranking)
WHY? Why Juggerknight and clawrel is B? The juggerknight and clawrel is S!
@StickGeneral-o2r Bro can't even spell it correctly 😭
Crawler gets hard countered by Archidon with CW if you have skill. Juggerknight is heavily overshadowed by Spearton + Early Game can be abused very much.
@CompetitiveSWS ok and sorry to comment I don't speak english
I speak hungary
I just love how archidons are the best unit in saga and like the worst unit in legacy lol
Duality of Archidons
At least he put speartons in S tier😊
@@PejoMartinovic 😊
Bro had crush on kytchu
@@KingZarek-e1l What? I hate that annoying prick
Bro try kai with juggarnaut army it is very good😊and some spells too I will tell you the deck ok?
Any miner, juggernaut, miner haste heavy healing ward , rune of reanimation , spirit deads, toxic totality, marrowkai
Try these in a battle 😊
Jugg spam! I haven't seen someone play that deck in a long time.
@CompetitiveSWS I do
Nah giants should be min A tier because they have carried me from 1200 to 1673 and tanked lots of dmg protecting my speartons and archidons
@@ZabirRizwanchowdhury Speartons tank more for less and train faster
@@CompetitiveSWSYeah ur right but I have faced a lot of heavy units and giants helped me clear out most of them
Magic hatter is S not c
"Magic hatter"
Tierlist proves how spearcher is meta
Yep... And Kytchu
ngl The Giant not Enslaved its powerfull actually. If you know old zombie appocalypse deck Giants so good to summon zombies by their high damage + toxicty
Marrowkai is better if you really want to make giant hordes of Deads.
Ирочно, что самый сильный юнит в игре в сражении один на один, это самый худший и не используемый юнит. (Я про Короля)
Очень иронично.
Thera + Magkil = rip Kythy
Uhhhh.... Sure....
i sacrifice meric with mana burst to get +100 AOE healing
I forgot to talk about Mana Burst healing with Merics...
Lol the queen healer is S not d giant is A not d
How so?
4:36 they need to buff the shadowrath
Yes, but in particular buff it's scaling with Forge
Why u hating on sickle wraft? And giants? There op alest crawlers are b and boomers are A
Im a ambush guy so hearing that sicklewraft are f makes me want to unsub
And if u want to know my decks there down
The boomer deck boomers and speartion
The strat is to use boomers at start and speartions at end
Its my frabet
Ambush deck sickle wraft and arcidons
The strat is to ambush
Ambush 2 kycho and sickle wrafts arcidons and flaming arrows
The strat is to use sicke wraft are arcidons at first and once u have innofe money use kyco and abilatids
Flaming ambush sickle wraft and arcidons with flaming arrows.
@@castillioauden5387 "Im a ambush guy"????? Do you mean you only play against bot ambush levels or you attack your enemies in multiplayer. If you are talking about playing against bots, this is a 1v1 competitive tierlist, not 2v2 or singleplayer or anything else. If you are talking about how you "ambush" your enemies in multiplayer 1v1, sicklewrath suck since the only thing they are good at is beating sword start. After the start though, they just straight up lose due to their squishy health and terrible damage against heavy. Giants (chaos giant) suck since their damage is based on which attack animation they get (the club swing animation is much faster then the body slam animation, resulting in it being RNG for how good your dps is) and their health is very bad for being a frontline unit. Egiants are not bad since they have around the same tanking power of the normal giant (only slightly weaker) and can completely wipe out backlines. Egiants would have easily be top of A tier (imo) if kytchu was not meta (targeted volley is crazy) and they had less bugs.
@@CompetitiveSWS Calm
@@muhammedcelik9411 Wah, I am
W tier
Thanks man!
Meric better than thera fr?!
100%! Meric has both a bubble and a shield, allowing for the Meric to do multiple jobs. Thera only has healing abilities, and a I-Frame for units, but Thera can not use any abilities during FoTF. Also, it is much harder to kill 3-5 Merics then it is to kill 1 Thera.
@@CompetitiveSWS I get your point but it's so unexpecting for the results! Usually I rank Thera B- for me since I use heal all and t the FoTF.
Kai is really good
Nah... It is very dependent on enemy deck (if they have vamp, you are cooked) and there is better stuff then making giant stacks of deads with RoR
@@CompetitiveSWS by the way I sub to you
@@lisapotok2548 Thanks!
@@CompetitiveSWS can you also make a video ranking spells?
@@lisapotok2548 Meh, maybe later
Fax but meric should be lower
@@Phoenix-Neon At the time of making this video, Meric is decent only due to it's shield and very high Kytchu healing. Meric shield can block volleys from Kytchu and stop endless statue volley as well.
Sickle wrath is not bad it's so cheap and I can actually get an even army and the giant is good too talk bad about the giant and will send you to jesus
The only thing sicklewrath are good at is countering sword start. But after the start, they just get destroyed. I guess they do a slightly decent job against crawlers too.
Don't let bro rank AGAIN 😭🙏
@@lidlxinder123 Said by the bronze player lol
@CompetitiveSWS how tf did you find my account, and on my main Account I'm on gold
@@lidlxinder123 What is wrong with the tierlist. Please, tell me.
hes right and im at 2k don't even think first giant is a just like a heavy tank and it can hit a lot of units and at D??? It has to be B and lot more dumb ranking units u did make
@@Nothing99113 First: good heavy DPS can be found in a lot of other units for cheaper costs, easier to protect, and more mobile (allowing for it to attack/retreat better)
Second: This is not my tierlist. This is a mix of 4 people's tierlists (Spas: Current Top 1, Jenny: Former Top 3, Neko: Former Top 1 in case you are curious) This is their tierlist averaged out. The only thing that is wrong at the time of making this video is that Bombers should have been top of B tier instead of A tier.
Lol the skeleton king is A not c your their list is bad
Skeleton king???? Do you mean Marrowkai?
YOU CALL ARTREYOS WEK.
Weak compared to Kytchu at the time of making this video
Your their list is a joke king Z is S period
How so?
This tierlist sucks 💀
@@SemAlce Why do you think that? 🤔
@@CompetitiveSWS main reason. Miners at B. They’re an S right away. Both of them. You need either one of them in every strategy. You can’t say the same with archers, speartons or kytchu
@@SemAlce As I said, S tier is for Over Powered stuff, and B tier is for Balanced Stuff. S tier is only for things that are good because of the meta (like Spears being meta thus why Swordwrath are high on the list) or if it is too strong and needs a nerf.
Miners and Enslaved Miners both balanced. Needing something does not make it overpowered.
GOOBERS
Thas crazy
Bad music choice :/👎🏻👎👎🏿👎🏻
What is wrong with Ultrakill music????
I agree
The track itself is good but not suited for the vid
@@haeret214 Shut your yapping hole Haeret
@@konekjukel3340 ... Bruh... All the clipchamp free music did not fit the video, and I felt that this calm Ultrakill music fit it better.
nerf miner
@@12X12Times1 Nerf Miner
What ?
@@lilymaricap480 What is the issue?
All of this is wrong
What is wrong about it?
🫵👎👎👎
@@emelynatiwag497 🫵🤢
@@CompetitiveSWSi think this emelyn jit is on his moms ipad
@@dave22732 Lol
Who decide eclipsor is A tier it still the best unit no matter what. A trade off dps and pop for the ability to counter 90% of the unit, having ridiculous amount of hp and being almost unkillable make them the best unit. They are hard to use but once u got a hord of them it impossible for them to die. Straight S tier and #2 best unit maybe #1 if spear got nerfed more.
Kytchu is just too strong lol. UC Kytchu + Stack of Archidons is very strong against Eclipsors. Eclipsors are still very strong, which is why they are in A tier.
I totally agree. These things are insanely op
@@shadowstickwar RIP Shadowrath
@@CompetitiveSWS I made an anti eclipsor shadowrath deck that works like 50% of the time.
@@shadowstickwar What is the deck?
Kytchu
(Atreyos still better tho)
Nah, Kytchu is better
I'll just pretend I didn't see that
@@youraveragebeepbooper You did and you know Kytchu is better. My source: Spas, Nercomancer, Yasin, and any other good Kytchu player.
I think bro has only been playing for 4 days thats why he said OH ALL GENERALS ALL F TIERS AND TRASH UNITS LIKE SWORDWRATH ARE S TIER like shut up there not that good
@@Emojishort-h2x You have the balls to say that you know better then the current rank 1, former rank 1, and former rank 3? If you really think you know better, go play against them.
This guy is a GM, he knows what he's talking about, also, swordwrath are one of the best units in the game while being balanced, while a lot of the generals aren't even worth bringing, you're clearly the one that's been playing for 4 days
NERF miner
@@12X12Times1 thas crazy
@@CompetitiveSWS no I didn't meant I'm better than those but sword wrath is way too high tier also eclipsor is way too I mean eclipsor is good if the opponent lacks ranged but c'mon not that high
GAY SPAM 3
... What????
@@CompetitiveSWS GAYPLAY
@@fdsaffwegf1892 Fam is a month late