Elen definitely stole that stuff from the patients, whether she intended to or not. The patients probably gave the different items to her while she was shapeshifted as their loved ones.
Aside from that, it is pretty unethical take things from patient one way or the other. Even if it is meant as a gift, especially in end of life care, these people are emotionally (and physically) dependent on you and may not be quite rationally thinking. Plus, at least the place I worked at, I was forbidden from accepting gifts, no matter how small.
Rejecting a gift from someone who may be dying soon seems pretty disrespectful. If someone took care of me as I was dying I'd want to give them something for the effort.
While of course there are differences on a case-by-case basis, I really think the rationale behind these rules is that these people are in a extreme, literally once-in-a-lifetime situation (dying) and may not be acting rationally. That and the relatives might not look kindly on it, after all, what if it's not just trinkets but a car or a house? Plus, if you are a trained nurse you should be able to handle such things. And even if, EVEN IF you end up accepting a gift in order to spare their feelings, under no circumstances should you then keep it after they passed on.
I guess that's fair. I do think that rules should be in place so they don't give you too much. I mean I've never been on my death bed (shocking I know) but whoever took care of me I feel should get one thing of mine that means a lot to me. Like my favorite book to read. Nothing obscenely valuable. A caregiver from outside the family should never get the person's whole fortune, their car, their house. However if you ask permission from the family to keep an object and they say yes then I think it's alright. It's definitely complicated, and in this case the lady didn't have any family visit. Man it really is hard. You should respect the wishes of those who are dying or dead, while at the same time not taking too much from a family, at the same time realizing some people don't write wills nor have a family who cared about them. I think a flat rule of not accepting something worth more than a couple hundred dollars is reasonable enough, and it can only be one thing. I dunno, again this is a complex situation.
As I said, 'accept no gifts, no matter how small' just was the rule in the one place I worked at. No expert on it, dunno if there's a law for it in each country or if every hospital/elderly home has its own rules for it. But it made sense to me. Sure, if the relative gives some flowers or bring cake or whatever, that is fine, but a gift from somebody that is physically and to a non-negligible degree emotionally dependent on you is a bit iffy in my opinion. Plus, as the one being gifted, it can be quite a burden, given something that'd remind them of their patient. Many nurses I came to know just had to draw the line between work and their own life much clearer than in other professions. I mean, openly wearing the locket of a person you watched die is actually kind of morbid and really speaks somewhat badly of Elins character, in my opinion. No wonder she has the reputation of a HSK. But either way, just as you said, it is a difficult problem and there's definitely no right answer that applies to every possibility.
I feel like a lot of their frustration is going to come from them never going past orange, as that's where a lot of the information beyond the basic murder plot is. Oh well, really enjoying these anyway.
Camhin1 It just told them it was risky, and sure, avoiding it is fine if they want to play it as sane as possible. But either way the game was talking about going green specifically, which is all but impossible to do without using hints or saying some... questionable things (outside of optional patients anyway).
That's the problem with how the game presented its rules. It's hard to know that you should keep going especially when the game doesn't hint that they may say more now and that it tells you to stop then.
The problem with "Did Tom die?" wasn't that you didn't mention he fell, it was that you added Tom so the game thought you asked the same earlier question, when I played this part I just wrote "Did he die?" and got the anwser. Although to be fair the game isn't always consistent with this, sometimes you have to mention the name of the person you're talking about a second time to advance which can get confusing.
xBelzerger watching this LP, it seems as if the open typing system might be a hindrance. it looks like it relies on key words or phrases, but because of that, the patients can look like downright morons. "Where are you from?" "ohhhh I don't know about that XD". plus the game can request a certain player input, but not actually have a response for it. Elin talks about Dekker talking about himself, which Jesse and Dodger respond to, which has no response. all that said, I can't wait for Cthulu to come along pounding back Simon's homebrew.
SpitefulToast It definitely requires a bit more tuning of the typing system, I get why it's not perfect since there's a LOT of responses but it would be great if they could fix it a bit more in the future because it's my only gripe with an otherwise good game.
processing natural language is still one of the hardest things to do. Google hasn't figured it out yet, not even close, so what chance does a small dev team have? they do the best with what they can and sometimes that means the system is janky af
I don't think they meant the game system was a bad thing, however Contradiction definitely had a better system which stopped characters from answering things like "I don't know" when you ask rudimentary questions, if this had a similar system where you maybe went through there sentences and matches key words it could of been slightly less of a "get lucky with key words" kinda thing.
As someone who works in the care taking profession, accepting any gifts from patients is liable to get you fired. Hell we aren't even allowed to accept a box of chocolates from relatives of the patient as thanks. A necklace/ring/statue would likely mean your termination. If that wasn't enough revealing information about your patients the way Elin is doing at times is a breach of the same confidentiality agreement as doctors have with their patients and is straight out a breach of that contract. Something that could have serious legal ramifications.
Senatic Is it because they might feelt guilted into buying stuff or that nurses would let the gifts to go their head and demand more? I honestly Idk :0
RaiOfSunshine Sup! Medical lab tech here! From what I can understand about how my workplace views the rule , it's more of a preventive measure against accusations of bribery.
I should preference this by saying that the strictness of this probably varies from country to country and from what type of care you are working in. I will speak about my experience which is in end of life care for elderly and general elderly care which also seems most relevant for this video and the Elin character (the reason I posted this in the first place was it didn't seem clear to Jesse and Dodger why this was so wrong). There are a couple of reasons, the main one is that in these cases when you are dealing with end of life patients or just elderly patients (as these make up a majority of end of life patients) these people often deal with degenerative brain diseases like Alzheimer, front temporal dementia or other medical issues that can impede mental functions like Parkinson or strokes. The list is of issues people suffer from is long. The point being, when you are so sick that you end up with end of life care it is very likely you do not have all your faculties, even diseases that don't directly affect the brain will often indirectly affect your ability to make good decisions since you are already dealing with something that is about to kill you. I think you can start seeing the issues with accepting gifts from within this category of patients, lets say I go to a patient with late onset frontal lobe dementia this person will literally not remember who I am from day to day, exploiting patients like this is so easy. They will offer you money out of kindness for you coming to help them even though you're just doing your job and you're already getting paid(Patients with dementia lose capability for rational thought and can't connect abstract ideas. All they might be able to put together is that you are a nice person and they'd like to do something nice for you back). You could trick them by saying you will help them shop and they won't even remember they gave you money, you could take their stuff and they wouldn't know it was gone. The sheer vulnerability of a patient like this who is at the complete mercy of the care takers requires a zero tolerance policy for gifts. At most it'd be ok to sit down and let them offer you a cup of coffee. Now what about patients who are more clear minded and doesn't suffer from degenerative brain diseases. Well even in these cases these patients are battling something that is killing them, us being there should never be about being rewarded by the patient. It should always be about providing the care these people need, and they already pay for this care. Thus accepting jewelry, statues and various trinkets even if they aren't particularly valuable is completely immoral and despicable. I hope you found this interesting! :)
I clicked the video and the first thing I heard was "Hi Ellen!" "Hello Ellen!"... I know it's Elin, but I felt special for a second. No one can take that away from me lol
Steven Hudson thanks man, I'm getting help. Finding out what's wrong has been a bit of a shock and a blessing but ya know, just got to keep moving forward.
It's a lighting glare on the vase on the shelf and it's been driving me fucking bonkers for 5 episodes. It took me two episodes just to figure out what it was.
During the entire first episode, I thought that this thing is what switches color when you ask (too many) questions. Kept staring at it like a madman. How fitting.
I did the same thing. It wasn't until the second episode I started suspecting it was something else and started trying to figure out what it was. I was a little pissed when I realized it was just a glare.
Haven't finished the video yet, so I don't know if they come to the same conclusion, but I bet she is technically stealing stuff from her patients, because they believe they're giving something to their loved ones, but it's actually Elin, pretending to be their loved ones
So I've been staring at those black and white poster things on the wall behind the patients and come to the conclusion that either as time goes on they slowly morph into images of Eldrich Horrors ( I honestly think the left one out of the two on the right is some sort of skull with wings ), or the camera guy did some weird lense focusing while filming various patients. Can't tell which.
Jaya: "He kept undressing me with his eyes". Me: Is that because you kept leaning over the sofa in that dress! Between her and Marianne I don't know how Jesse is holding it together.
This game could have been called. "Solid Snake Simulator - The respondening. 'Now you too can react to people by repeating the last thing they said back to them while occasionally adding something new to the conversation'"!
Nah, that's just the way Dodger and Jesse are choosing to play it (especially Dodger) - and if you notice it actually holds them back a lot at certain points and even drives them to need hints, as well as get confusing answers or answers to questions they didn't mean to ask. They'd have a way easier time if they made the attempt to have a "normal" sounding conversation with the patients. The lazy "repeating phrases with a question mark" way is a mistake in this game, but it's true it CAN be played through that way if one insists. It's just less satisfying.
Elin triggers me so much. As someone who have actually worked at a nursing home, we were under contract to not disclose ANYTHING about the patients, no names, no health conditions, no nothing, exept to colleuges, relatives of the patient and other medical personell as needed. I am still partly bound by that contract, even though i don't work there anymore, because some of the patients i had are still alive. We were also not to accept gifts or payment from the patients, partly because their belongings were to pass to the relatives if they pass away, but also because how do one know that the gift was given while the patient was in a state of mind to be able to make that decision? What if the patient don't remember it the next day? It was made clear to us that accepting gifts could be concidered theft. It actually hapened to me, one of the patients wanted to give me some money for my work after i had helped them dress for the day.
abit late i admit.. but considering anything she says to her psych doctor is confidential and as such any breach she may do is irrelevant as the responsibility is shifted to her doctor in question. there are always special rules to these kinds of things afterall. :).
"Really, Jaya? You wanted us to answer your question with an answer, instead of these obtuse and cute return questions?" I'm shocked. No, really. Shocked. That they never thought that someone might want an actual answer, that is. Jesus. The arrogant anger, there.
I said hello, Cthulhu, Well, hello, Cthulhu It's so nice to have you back where you belong You're lookin' swell, Cthulhu I can tell, Cthulhu You're still glowin' You're still crowin' You're still goin' strong I feel that room swayin' While the band's playin' One of your old favourite songs from way back when So take her wrap, fellas Find her an empty lap, fellas Cthulhu'll never go away again I said hello, Cthulhu Well, hello, Cthulhu It's so nice to have you back where you belong You're lookin' swell, Cthulhu I can tell, Cthulhu You're still glowin' You're still crowin' You're still goin' strong I feel the room swayin' While that ole band keeps on playin' One of your old favourite songs from way back when So golly, gee, fellas Find her an empty knee, fellas Cthulhu'll never go away I said she'll never go away Cthulhu'll never go away again
Am I the only one that sees 25 all the time.... Elen is 25 Ben is 25 that other dude has 1 extra hour (the 25th hour that's definitely a cthulu shit) also the artefact from the excavation, the church, the naked girl by the sea, the groundhog day that brakes only from something bad happening... It's like I'm playing fucking elder signs all over again...
OMG, I was literally screaming about the accusation of stealing was from the locket. I mean the game literally focuses on it in the first session saying, "HEY REMEMBER THIS DUMB DUMBS!!!" lol still love you guys.
To be fair with the "Tom Died" bit, all you had to say was "He died," that worked in my game. When you put 'Tom" in there, it picked up on when you asked who Tom was.
Elin kinda reminds me of the main character from Doctor Sleep, where he would help patients peacefully pass away in their final moments with "the shining".
i dont suppose dr dekker's homebrewed soda (with 12 herbal flavor components, all grown and hand prepared in a local greenhouse) is owned by someone named simon, y'think?
they've used the keywords "accused" and "stealing" individually and haven't thought to immediately combine the two words in one sentence. also Jaya is asking a question And you try to return with another question? and then they get prissy when the answer was to, of course answer the question. Man does this thing make you over think, resulting in missing the simple things.
It a bit weird to see them get so salty when it a bit obvious it their own fault. I think it mostly over confidence. They hit a good stride last episode so now they start trying to trigger things with 1 or 2 words and not taking their time with each line of questions. The salt is obvious of that, they just seem to be really impatient this episode.
Most of the time the game also works on single keywords, very rarely two. The problem in this case as well is that one word exclamations of surprise are very valid responses to Elin's statement. Add to this that the one word responses don't even *have* an answer and it makes it seem like they don't mean for you to follow that train of though. Like the accusation's not important. Jaya's question was rhethorical. If she would've asked you that in real life and you'd respond with a serious answer, she'd sarcastically say that he did actually fly and is now living with silver dragons in the clouds and herding flying bisons as pets. Don't get me wrong. I love the game and was unsettling-terrified throughout the entirety of it. But the answering system is very subpar. There's no gating stopping you from asking about stuff you should by no means know anything about yet and the answers are inconsistent in the keywording and differentiating between names and pronouns. (Him vs Tom/Dr Dekker)
Honestly I've played the game to completion and I agree with their assessment. The game is fidgety with certain lines of question. Jaya specifically seemed to be strange to question. I read the game randomizes who the killer is at the start, might be why it's so strange, especially for Jaya who seems to be a key piece to the investigation and your main clue giver even though she is herself a suspect. I mean at this point in the investigation (day 2+) you would have figured out the keyword gimmick even though the game tries to tell you to ask questions. So asking accused and stealing separately should theoretically get you there. The game doesn't seem to point you towards asking full length questions or mixing keywords through gameplay often. So I think Jesse and Dodger have a right to be upset. Let's not even get into contradictions which don't seem to work half the time no matter the combination. A lot of reviewers agree the system isn't streamlined well enough. Maybe you're the exception and are a super slueth, but us regular people are frequently backed into a frustrating corner.
Hey, Jesse! It would be really cool if you did a Fan Friday or play through of Pinstripe. I've heard amazing things about it and especially because of the fact that one guy, Thomas Brush, did the art, coding, music, like everything.
The title is an Audioslave song... I has a sad now. But, I also have Jesse and Doogs being psychie-detectives, which makes me glad. Curse you, conflicting emosions.
I bought this game shortly after the second video. It's a blast so far! I've been streaming it and getting help with friends and asking way too many inappropriate comments. ...And everyone can see how bad my live typing is.
I love you two but criticizing the game for asking you a question and then not responding when you return to it with a question rather than an answer is silly. Since this is a free typing game some responses have to be specific so you don't accidentally uncover something that hasn't come up yet. What do you think happened? Did he die? Did Tom die? Technically an acceptable response but still not very normal. In my game I said "I assume Tom died" and it worked.
You're not actually allowed to accept gifts from patients if you work in health care - at least not in the UK. There was a huge big deal about it in my contract when I worked in a care home.
"why were you accused of stealing?" "I dont have anything to tell you about that." 16 minutes later they are forced to use a hint "what did they accuse her of stealing?" WHAT THE FUCK GAME?
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When your sick and fall asleep during Jesse's video then get awakened by BRING THE STRIPPERS AND BOOZE!!! I almost had a heart attack.
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
ReallyNamjoon ....I thought it was "strippers and boats" this whole time....
My homebrew helps keep the eldritch horrors at bay.
Simon, Homebrewer Extraordinaire May I suggest the addition of strawberry preserve? Your homebrew would be greatly improved.
PAPA! URFATHER! YOU BLESS US WITH YOUR PRESENCE ON THIS GLORIOUS DAY!
Yeah right. You need an Alex James Freedom Necklace™ for that.
Too bad it couldn't help with crazy cults
DeadFingers Thank you, my most loyal follower. Here, have some cookies that I made. Be sure to share with your friends alright?
Elen definitely stole that stuff from the patients, whether she intended to or not. The patients probably gave the different items to her while she was shapeshifted as their loved ones.
Aside from that, it is pretty unethical take things from patient one way or the other. Even if it is meant as a gift, especially in end of life care, these people are emotionally (and physically) dependent on you and may not be quite rationally thinking. Plus, at least the place I worked at, I was forbidden from accepting gifts, no matter how small.
Rejecting a gift from someone who may be dying soon seems pretty disrespectful. If someone took care of me as I was dying I'd want to give them something for the effort.
While of course there are differences on a case-by-case basis, I really think the rationale behind these rules is that these people are in a extreme, literally once-in-a-lifetime situation (dying) and may not be acting rationally. That and the relatives might not look kindly on it, after all, what if it's not just trinkets but a car or a house? Plus, if you are a trained nurse you should be able to handle such things. And even if, EVEN IF you end up accepting a gift in order to spare their feelings, under no circumstances should you then keep it after they passed on.
I guess that's fair. I do think that rules should be in place so they don't give you too much. I mean I've never been on my death bed (shocking I know) but whoever took care of me I feel should get one thing of mine that means a lot to me. Like my favorite book to read. Nothing obscenely valuable. A caregiver from outside the family should never get the person's whole fortune, their car, their house. However if you ask permission from the family to keep an object and they say yes then I think it's alright. It's definitely complicated, and in this case the lady didn't have any family visit. Man it really is hard. You should respect the wishes of those who are dying or dead, while at the same time not taking too much from a family, at the same time realizing some people don't write wills nor have a family who cared about them.
I think a flat rule of not accepting something worth more than a couple hundred dollars is reasonable enough, and it can only be one thing. I dunno, again this is a complex situation.
As I said, 'accept no gifts, no matter how small' just was the rule in the one place I worked at. No expert on it, dunno if there's a law for it in each country or if every hospital/elderly home has its own rules for it. But it made sense to me. Sure, if the relative gives some flowers or bring cake or whatever, that is fine, but a gift from somebody that is physically and to a non-negligible degree emotionally dependent on you is a bit iffy in my opinion.
Plus, as the one being gifted, it can be quite a burden, given something that'd remind them of their patient. Many nurses I came to know just had to draw the line between work and their own life much clearer than in other professions. I mean, openly wearing the locket of a person you watched die is actually kind of morbid and really speaks somewhat badly of Elins character, in my opinion. No wonder she has the reputation of a HSK.
But either way, just as you said, it is a difficult problem and there's definitely no right answer that applies to every possibility.
"... Are you happy?"
*Me sitting at home, answering with a monotome voice*
"Yes, I am very happy."
why do I feel this going to end with Jessie sacrificing Dodger to Cthulu while dancing around naked with Marianna on the beach.
"I still can't get over it." -> Immidiately smiles like she doesn't have a care in the world. :D
I would be a terrible therapist. I would believe all their stories and think I was working with super powered mutants or something.
I don't want to cause a panic, but the woman who plays Elin is named
Helen Jenkinson.
OMG no way
Oh shit, she's going to pull her face off and reveal that she was Jenks in disguise all along!
I actually checked Imdb because it sounds too good to be true. What a strange little coincidence.
She's gorgeous plus her English is spot-on cute
OH UNCLE DEKKER, INSANITY ISN'T REAL
evertime123 No... Insanity or "Madness" is a place. A state of being. A sort of "Wonderland", if you will.
I feel like a lot of their frustration is going to come from them never going past orange, as that's where a lot of the information beyond the basic murder plot is. Oh well, really enjoying these anyway.
Andrius the game told them not to though.
It's a game, not a cop.
Camhin1 It just told them it was risky, and sure, avoiding it is fine if they want to play it as sane as possible. But either way the game was talking about going green specifically, which is all but impossible to do without using hints or saying some... questionable things (outside of optional patients anyway).
That's the problem with how the game presented its rules. It's hard to know that you should keep going especially when the game doesn't hint that they may say more now and that it tells you to stop then.
The problem with "Did Tom die?" wasn't that you didn't mention he fell, it was that you added Tom so the game thought you asked the same earlier question, when I played this part I just wrote "Did he die?" and got the anwser.
Although to be fair the game isn't always consistent with this, sometimes you have to mention the name of the person you're talking about a second time to advance which can get confusing.
xBelzerger watching this LP, it seems as if the open typing system might be a hindrance. it looks like it relies on key words or phrases, but because of that, the patients can look like downright morons. "Where are you from?" "ohhhh I don't know about that XD". plus the game can request a certain player input, but not actually have a response for it. Elin talks about Dekker talking about himself, which Jesse and Dodger respond to, which has no response.
all that said, I can't wait for Cthulu to come along pounding back Simon's homebrew.
SpitefulToast It definitely requires a bit more tuning of the typing system, I get why it's not perfect since there's a LOT of responses but it would be great if they could fix it a bit more in the future because it's my only gripe with an otherwise good game.
processing natural language is still one of the hardest things to do. Google hasn't figured it out yet, not even close, so what chance does a small dev team have? they do the best with what they can and sometimes that means the system is janky af
I don't think they meant the game system was a bad thing, however Contradiction definitely had a better system which stopped characters from answering things like "I don't know" when you ask rudimentary questions, if this had a similar system where you maybe went through there sentences and matches key words it could of been slightly less of a "get lucky with key words" kinda thing.
As someone who works in the care taking profession, accepting any gifts from patients is liable to get you fired. Hell we aren't even allowed to accept a box of chocolates from relatives of the patient as thanks. A necklace/ring/statue would likely mean your termination. If that wasn't enough revealing information about your patients the way Elin is doing at times is a breach of the same confidentiality agreement as doctors have with their patients and is straight out a breach of that contract. Something that could have serious legal ramifications.
Senatic Is it because they might feelt guilted into buying stuff or that nurses would let the gifts to go their head and demand more? I honestly Idk :0
RaiOfSunshine Sup! Medical lab tech here! From what I can understand about how my workplace views the rule , it's more of a preventive measure against accusations of bribery.
I should preference this by saying that the strictness of this probably varies from country to country and from what type of care you are working in. I will speak about my experience which is in end of life care for elderly and general elderly care which also seems most relevant for this video and the Elin character (the reason I posted this in the first place was it didn't seem clear to Jesse and Dodger why this was so wrong).
There are a couple of reasons, the main one is that in these cases when you are dealing with end of life patients or just elderly patients (as these make up a majority of end of life patients) these people often deal with degenerative brain diseases like Alzheimer, front temporal dementia or other medical issues that can impede mental functions like Parkinson or strokes. The list is of issues people suffer from is long. The point being, when you are so sick that you end up with end of life care it is very likely you do not have all your faculties, even diseases that don't directly affect the brain will often indirectly affect your ability to make good decisions since you are already dealing with something that is about to kill you.
I think you can start seeing the issues with accepting gifts from within this category of patients, lets say I go to a patient with late onset frontal lobe dementia this person will literally not remember who I am from day to day, exploiting patients like this is so easy. They will offer you money out of kindness for you coming to help them even though you're just doing your job and you're already getting paid(Patients with dementia lose capability for rational thought and can't connect abstract ideas. All they might be able to put together is that you are a nice person and they'd like to do something nice for you back). You could trick them by saying you will help them shop and they won't even remember they gave you money, you could take their stuff and they wouldn't know it was gone. The sheer vulnerability of a patient like this who is at the complete mercy of the care takers requires a zero tolerance policy for gifts. At most it'd be ok to sit down and let them offer you a cup of coffee.
Now what about patients who are more clear minded and doesn't suffer from degenerative brain diseases. Well even in these cases these patients are battling something that is killing them, us being there should never be about being rewarded by the patient. It should always be about providing the care these people need, and they already pay for this care. Thus accepting jewelry, statues and various trinkets even if they aren't particularly valuable is completely immoral and despicable.
I hope you found this interesting! :)
Ohhh, I didn't even think of the dementia thing. Thanks for the reply :]
Senatic By termination I assume you mean they would get thrown into a vulcano?
Hilda is the next sacrafice for Cthulu
Okay, I am a convert. I am really enjoying this play through. These "movie" type games are really interesting.
MARIANNA'S GOTTA BE A SIREN I SWEAR
Jessica Benach a siren that works for that octopus god
I clicked the video and the first thing I heard was "Hi Ellen!" "Hello Ellen!"... I know it's Elin, but I felt special for a second. No one can take that away from me lol
I found out I have PTSD today, this though has made my day, Jesse your the best.
April Mead Hope you have support around you, I've had a couple friends suffering from PTSD and I can't imagine how tough it can be.
Steven Hudson thanks man, I'm getting help. Finding out what's wrong has been a bit of a shock and a blessing but ya know, just got to keep moving forward.
April Mead I have that too. Getting treatment and focusing on yourself with can Help.
Also I love how Jaya was so straight forward or she made it easy to ask the follow-up questions.
*quality* thumbnail.
looks like she's holding an invisible camera.
Me: All right let's see if there's a new episode up. "Uploaded 1 minute ago"
same experience but with 3 minutes ^^
For me 15 minutes ago
Ramon609 5 hours.
Same but with 2 months...
Ripperoni's
HELL CTHULHU!
#FreeCthulhu
Medusa Ïa ïa Cthulhu fhtagn.
Commander Ju You missed the joke, though.
Jaya makes me so damn happy. The actress is so great and campy.
Finally! Waited all day for this 😄
Ahh, addicted to this series.
There is 100% a Contradiction Easter egg in act 3 and I hope to God Jesse and Dodger find it.
Jaya is actually the greatest.
Elin definitely seems to be the craziest out of all of them (Jaya just being a little Jenksy) but I still love her character the most
I know! but Elin is just so cheerful with her smile and shit and I love her for it
YES!! I've been waiting all morning for this upload!! :D I love watching both of you guys playing these detective games X3
So... When is my waifu Cthulu gonna show up?
it's the last act. You will give Cthulhu therapist sessions
WaffleDealer give it time Cthulhu has plenty of better shit to do
Strawberry Preserve is the one true waifu!!!
Cthulhu is best girl
Just a thought. Jaya is C'thulu. Something about the "Only poor Jaya remains" line weirded me out.
Anyone else annoyed by that small white line at the left side of the screen kinda looking like an exclamation mark?
YES, it drives me insane!
It's a lighting glare on the vase on the shelf and it's been driving me fucking bonkers for 5 episodes. It took me two episodes just to figure out what it was.
During the entire first episode, I thought that this thing is what switches color when you ask (too many) questions. Kept staring at it like a madman.
How fitting.
I did the same thing. It wasn't until the second episode I started suspecting it was something else and started trying to figure out what it was. I was a little pissed when I realized it was just a glare.
Yes! I consistently think it is part of the UI.
Haven't finished the video yet, so I don't know if they come to the same conclusion, but I bet she is technically stealing stuff from her patients, because they believe they're giving something to their loved ones, but it's actually Elin, pretending to be their loved ones
So I've been staring at those black and white poster things on the wall behind the patients and come to the conclusion that either as time goes on they slowly morph into images of Eldrich Horrors ( I honestly think the left one out of the two on the right is some sort of skull with wings ), or the camera guy did some weird lense focusing while filming various patients.
Can't tell which.
Lovecraftian horrors have a tendency to be asymmetrical but it could be a night gaunt or something yeah.
3:10 Maybe it would be better to Just, I don't know... Skype her daughter?
Pallas_Ovidius But then Elin wouldn't feel helpful and get trinkets XD
Jaya: "He kept undressing me with his eyes".
Me: Is that because you kept leaning over the sofa in that dress!
Between her and Marianne I don't know how Jesse is holding it together.
Jaya's so dreamy
You're not undressing her with your eyes are you?! o_O
This game could have been called. "Solid Snake Simulator - The respondening. 'Now you too can react to people by repeating the last thing they said back to them while occasionally adding something new to the conversation'"!
Nah, that's just the way Dodger and Jesse are choosing to play it (especially Dodger) - and if you notice it actually holds them back a lot at certain points and even drives them to need hints, as well as get confusing answers or answers to questions they didn't mean to ask. They'd have a way easier time if they made the attempt to have a "normal" sounding conversation with the patients. The lazy "repeating phrases with a question mark" way is a mistake in this game, but it's true it CAN be played through that way if one insists. It's just less satisfying.
Jaya is such a bless to watch, just do more of these !
Moon'sDeity Jaya and Jenks v the Atlas Cthulupact?
i love this type of content, very watchable. do more of these with people in the office/crendor
Elin: “I can become whoever they are”
Me: *Sam…?*
I love these frequent uploads :D
This series is so good
Keep'em coming JD
I always misread the title! In my head it forms: 'The Infectious Madness of Doctor Dodger'
You guys rock! WOOOOOP another episode!
Waited all day for this
I wonder how long it will take for them, to notice, that they also have to look at the patients and not just at the words.
I flipping love these games. Even though I'll be watching Jesse and Dodger play it rather than playing it myself I'll still be buying in on payday.
Elin triggers me so much. As someone who have actually worked at a nursing home, we were under contract to not disclose ANYTHING about the patients, no names, no health conditions, no nothing, exept to colleuges, relatives of the patient and other medical personell as needed. I am still partly bound by that contract, even though i don't work there anymore, because some of the patients i had are still alive.
We were also not to accept gifts or payment from the patients, partly because their belongings were to pass to the relatives if they pass away, but also because how do one know that the gift was given while the patient was in a state of mind to be able to make that decision? What if the patient don't remember it the next day? It was made clear to us that accepting gifts could be concidered theft. It actually hapened to me, one of the patients wanted to give me some money for my work after i had helped them dress for the day.
ThabigT101 I definitely agree and if Elin actually believes what she is saying about her "talent" doubly over she should know why she is in the wrong.
abit late i admit.. but considering anything she says to her psych doctor is confidential and as such any breach she may do is irrelevant as the responsibility is shifted to her doctor in question. there are always special rules to these kinds of things afterall. :).
Can't wait for a sequel - The Infectious Madness of Dr. Double-Dekker.
You guys need to remember to include names and specifics in your questions
Every patient that Jesse and dodger talk to in this game is crazy
Cmon Jesse I'm having withdrawal post a new Dekker video!!!
watching this series of videos is so frustrating. I'm over here screaming suggestions at my phone, lol. This game.
( 20:14 ) ''It's the new 'In' drug, dude ! Just like the 'China cat.''
Hope everyone is ready for a 28-ish episode series with this 2 people rule they have going on. Lol.
"Really, Jaya? You wanted us to answer your question with an answer, instead of these obtuse and cute return questions?"
I'm shocked. No, really. Shocked. That they never thought that someone might want an actual answer, that is. Jesus. The arrogant anger, there.
Just in regards to Elin introducing herself, I think you need to pick up on her odd name and ask her about it :)
Bruh jaya Got me falling in love again
I said hello, Cthulhu,
Well, hello, Cthulhu
It's so nice to have you back where you belong
You're lookin' swell, Cthulhu
I can tell, Cthulhu
You're still glowin'
You're still crowin'
You're still goin' strong
I feel that room swayin'
While the band's playin'
One of your old favourite songs from way back when
So take her wrap, fellas
Find her an empty lap, fellas
Cthulhu'll never go away again
I said hello, Cthulhu
Well, hello, Cthulhu
It's so nice to have you back where you belong
You're lookin' swell, Cthulhu
I can tell, Cthulhu
You're still glowin'
You're still crowin'
You're still goin' strong
I feel the room swayin'
While that ole band keeps on playin'
One of your old favourite songs from way back when
So golly, gee, fellas
Find her an empty knee, fellas
Cthulhu'll never go away
I said she'll never go away
Cthulhu'll never go away again
Am I the only one that sees 25 all the time.... Elen is 25 Ben is 25 that other dude has 1 extra hour (the 25th hour that's definitely a cthulu shit) also the artefact from the excavation, the church, the naked girl by the sea, the groundhog day that brakes only from something bad happening... It's like I'm playing fucking elder signs all over again...
That nurse is "Sam"!
Probably not, but quite the coincidence!
Anyone else sitting there, pulling their hair out screaming "ACCUSED HER OF STEALING WHAT!?!?!"
Semi Cupid yep
OMG, I was literally screaming about the accusation of stealing was from the locket. I mean the game literally focuses on it in the first session saying, "HEY REMEMBER THIS DUMB DUMBS!!!" lol still love you guys.
"Just trinkets really" - more like just TROPHIES really
Elin is so adorable and peppy. Love her! Why am I attracted to crazy? LOL Also, Fem Jenks is best Jenks.
Finally found someone who is Team Elin. She frightens me. She would 100% murder me in my sleep.
Nah. She would just swap your meds with herbs.
Team Jaya
Eric West Awwww yeah
You can like crazy, just stick it in.
24:14 I KNEW IT, MARIANNA IS SOME KIND OF SIREN/MERMAID
God, I love Jaya
They always start off so normal, then "I can change my skin". Marianna is probably the least weird patient thus far not including Jaya.
I was screaming at the screen for you to ask what was stolen!
To be fair with the "Tom Died" bit, all you had to say was "He died," that worked in my game. When you put 'Tom" in there, it picked up on when you asked who Tom was.
Elin kinda reminds me of the main character from Doctor Sleep, where he would help patients peacefully pass away in their final moments with "the shining".
"Uh you're a shifter then. Well, how hot was your date?" PLS NO AAAAH THE SUSPENS
Elin is definitely sacrificing her patients to Cthulhu and stealing their belongings. That woman is a lunatic, even more so than the other patients.
This is so Cool... getting me through the work day... Thanks! Hi Dodger :)
Something about Marianna makes you want to follow her?!?!?! I'm telling you she's a mermaid or siren or something. Has to be
Love you and Dodger❤️
If I had a doctor that would mention himself as we and us, it would be all kinds of crazy.
See about 15:05
Just finished rewatching contradiction, still waiting for that sequel...
Goddamn bicycle...
Dr dekker sounds like a good soda flavor
veryberrykeri like some kind of home brewed soda.
i dont suppose dr dekker's homebrewed soda (with 12 herbal flavor components, all grown and hand prepared in a local greenhouse) is owned by someone named simon, y'think?
Some people Say Tom is still Flying
best thing to wake up to
they've used the keywords "accused" and "stealing" individually and haven't thought to immediately combine the two words in one sentence.
also Jaya is asking a question And you try to return with another question? and then they get prissy when the answer was to, of course answer the question.
Man does this thing make you over think, resulting in missing the simple things.
ITS MAKING ME CRAZY
I mean, most of the time it's only about one keyword.
Also they are more upset that the word 'die' did not work.
It a bit weird to see them get so salty when it a bit obvious it their own fault.
I think it mostly over confidence. They hit a good stride last episode so now they start trying to trigger things with 1 or 2 words and not taking their time with each line of questions. The salt is obvious of that, they just seem to be really impatient this episode.
Most of the time the game also works on single keywords, very rarely two. The problem in this case as well is that one word exclamations of surprise are very valid responses to Elin's statement. Add to this that the one word responses don't even *have* an answer and it makes it seem like they don't mean for you to follow that train of though. Like the accusation's not important.
Jaya's question was rhethorical. If she would've asked you that in real life and you'd respond with a serious answer, she'd sarcastically say that he did actually fly and is now living with silver dragons in the clouds and herding flying bisons as pets.
Don't get me wrong. I love the game and was unsettling-terrified throughout the entirety of it. But the answering system is very subpar. There's no gating stopping you from asking about stuff you should by no means know anything about yet and the answers are inconsistent in the keywording and differentiating between names and pronouns. (Him vs Tom/Dr Dekker)
Honestly I've played the game to completion and I agree with their assessment. The game is fidgety with certain lines of question. Jaya specifically seemed to be strange to question. I read the game randomizes who the killer is at the start, might be why it's so strange, especially for Jaya who seems to be a key piece to the investigation and your main clue giver even though she is herself a suspect.
I mean at this point in the investigation (day 2+) you would have figured out the keyword gimmick even though the game tries to tell you to ask questions. So asking accused and stealing separately should theoretically get you there. The game doesn't seem to point you towards asking full length questions or mixing keywords through gameplay often. So I think Jesse and Dodger have a right to be upset. Let's not even get into contradictions which don't seem to work half the time no matter the combination. A lot of reviewers agree the system isn't streamlined well enough. Maybe you're the exception and are a super slueth, but us regular people are frequently backed into a frustrating corner.
Trinkets Elin? Or trophies? Cause I think it's the latter tbh XD
Did Elin shapeshift into Jaya and that's who Marianna actually saw with a man out on the pier?
Hey, Jesse!
It would be really cool if you did a Fan Friday or play through of Pinstripe. I've heard amazing things about it and especially because of the fact that one guy, Thomas Brush, did the art, coding, music, like everything.
The title is an Audioslave song...
I has a sad now.
But, I also have Jesse and Doogs being psychie-detectives, which makes me glad.
Curse you, conflicting emosions.
I bought this game shortly after the second video. It's a blast so far! I've been streaming it and getting help with friends and asking way too many inappropriate comments.
...And everyone can see how bad my live typing is.
32:58 - Interesting, in my play though Dekker didn't resign, he tried to get Jaya fired.
Calling it right now Dr Dekker was a case of "knowing too much"
I knew it was only a matter of time before we found out yes, Elin is crazy too.
Awww, what happened to the old snap shots? I love those cartoons D:
I love you two but criticizing the game for asking you a question and then not responding when you return to it with a question rather than an answer is silly. Since this is a free typing game some responses have to be specific so you don't accidentally uncover something that hasn't come up yet.
What do you think happened?
Did he die? Did Tom die?
Technically an acceptable response but still not very normal. In my game I said "I assume Tom died" and it worked.
Let's go to Claire. Bring the strippers and booze!
YEAAAHHHH! Gotta stop what I'm doing to watch this nonsense. :D
You're not actually allowed to accept gifts from patients if you work in health care - at least not in the UK. There was a huge big deal about it in my contract when I worked in a care home.
"why were you accused of stealing?" "I dont have anything to tell you about that."
16 minutes later they are forced to use a hint
"what did they accuse her of stealing?"
WHAT THE FUCK GAME?
if i may with Mariana. siren/mermaid makes sense to me
I feel we've reached the point of saving and then asking about c'thulhu
goin to the podcast in 4 hours ^_^
Your late upload ruined my lunch at work today! >:C
The fucking outro music is the best