Rage generation and bleed ticks speed up with haste, which adds up to a lot of extra damage, and it smooths out rage generation, auto attacking more often (but cooldowns come up more, and more skills go out), crit white swings also generate lots of rage, that and the obvious making your skills more likely to crit make crit good. Mastery is (as of last i checked) fine but lagging behind haste and crit. You're still gonna get 2400+ no problem whatever stat you focus though
Not really, because your gonna spend a lot of times being kited by some classes, so your bleeds ticking isn't gonna kill someone, its when you can connect and get some big hits in. This is why Mastery is favorited in PvP. Auto-attack crit swings and such don't really matter unless you have uptime, this is why 20% is sufficient. Also, since crits are only 150% now, having a higher base damage (due to mastery and Vers) even tho they are, when you do crit it can feel like before the change. Ex. Say MS hits for 6k (small numbers for easier math). if you have 30% mastery and Vers, that's 6k x 60% = 9600 base damage. 9,600 x 1.5 = 14,400 crit. Now if your your only 30 Vers, 20 mastery, its 6k x 50% = 9k base. 9k x 1.5 = 13,500 crit. That's a loss of almost 1k damage which is about a loss of 7% damage per crit and a loss of about 11% in base damage. Obviously the numbers are bigger, but that means the discrepancies will be higher. Another note is your main bleed Deep Wounds will also tick for more since its directly related to your mastery and its debuff in turn increases Rends bleed ticks. When it comes to bleeds, haste and mastery are fairly similar in how much damage will be done. Haste being faster ticks = more damage verses Mastery being bigger ticks = more damage. Where they differ is when you can connect. Haste isn't going to increase the damage you do on hits, but Mastery will. A an extra weapon swing for white damage with haste isn't going to do as much as a bigger MS or Execute press does with Mastery.
Yep, I'm currently sitting at 16.7% crit (in battle stance, 13.7 in d stance) , 20.3% haste, 30.2 Mastery, and 30.06 Vers. Once i get deep wounds on anyone, I'm doing 60% more damage at all times (minus they're defensive vers or any walls). It's nuts how much damage you can pump in strong burst windows.
annoyed that Arms warriors are killing him on his Rogue, he logs his Warrior and within the first 3 minutes says "This class is broken" - so predictable.
I know this is hella late but I don’t know a single decent wow player that uses “turn left/right” over strafing on left right. I don’t know 100% but the odds are heavily in favour of him not even having the turn keys bound.
I love listening to the frustration in his voice fighting the DH and H priest as warrior lol. It's how I feel every Solo Shuffle with Paladins, Hunters, and Mages.
Hello, hope you get the message, the box is called obsidian smth crate, you can buy it near the training grounds for 375 conquest points, its cheap, but fully random, gl
Sense when the game is hard? I'm 2600 with 5 classes 2900 with my 2 mains, and I'm playing in europe, plus the hardest pvp battle group in the world. Not the noobs bajgeera and pika plays 😂😂😂😂😂
I changed from Warrior (both specs), to WW monk. WW monk can close gap better, and hits far harder, burst and sustained. Slightly less durable, but still Better.
@@StrobeFireStudios monks burst and sustained is far better than warriors right now. Just a tiny bit less durable. I’m only partially geared with conquest gear at the moment and I crush fully geared warriors constantly. Some classes counter me okay though.
Warrior is some ass atm just q one shuffle if you dare, buffs kinda did nothing only nerfrd the burst.. might be good in actual 3s but 99% of us dont play 3s xD
I love the content but don’t like the isolation of classes by saying they are good or not EVERY PATCH I’ve been playing enhance shaman for years and can clap most warriors with ease patches don’t mean nothing ! Choose your class and destroy! That’s the point of the game not telling everyone to play certain classes that takes out the originality
warrior is broken ? pika bro be serious mate ,try to play 3s or solo shuff against mage on higher rate and we will speak about how good warrior is again :DDDDDDDD
Arms Warriors have never not been top tier, I don’t think there has EVER been a patch in WoW where Arms wasn’t at least a high A tier spec. Even those two times when Fury was a stronger spec in PvP, Arms was still just barely worse. And it wasn’t really because it was worse, it’s just Fury is smooth brain and has so much self-sustain consistency.
"Warrior is busted" Pika ur on high copium or sth. I love u and ur gameplay and shit but whenever I hear bullshit like this when you say warrior is good or bla bla bla makes me nutz. Arms warrior is currently so bad its insane. Either ur players on US are so bad against em or EU players are just so much better. I can give u plenty of examples from my stream how ppl counter us and how much MORE dmg they do then we are currently. Unhige nerfed should be reverse. Nerfs on exe procision/skullsplitter should be reversed. Or at least 1 of em. We dont have options what to play. The Hurricane talent makes u CANNOT cancelaura bladestorm to stop sheep/heal/stormbolt and its intended by blizzard. Just be4 some ppl say that im a 1.6k player im 9x glad and xr1 on EU. Not flexing just saying be4 getting roasted by some randoms. Playing since 2007-2008
@@gvstlytv not really broken actually. arms is quite weak in defensives. Hes now maaaaaaybe high B tier at max. Im 42%vers on my arms and i get literally nearly onetapped by mages and other metaclasses
For someone who plays awc and wow professionally for a living and hearing the words "warrior and ww are busted" fist sentence of the video is some omega cap. Even putting them in the same sentence is a joke. WW is literally just a warrior playing the next expansion.
Arms war is so bad, that’s why it’s the 2nd most popular melee spec 2400+ and the 6th most popular spec 2400+ in 3s internationally rn. The copium from people is real rn.
And the whole “lots of warrior mains rn” argument isn’t really valid because everybody knows that people gravitate to strong specs for easy wins, hence why people are playing Boomy, SP, WW, and H Pal so much all of a sudden. And hence why so many people ran Ret last season. If you don’t think the majority of people just play strong specs and not the specs they actually enjoy playing, you’re HUFFING copium.
Oh no Magnus went Fury, such a tragedy to be rank 4 warrior and play another spec on the same class, mean while rank 1 warrior currently is Toegap and guess what genius, he’s playing *DRUMROLL* arms!
@@zinamoggI dont feel warrior its broken, this people on this video are not kiting and even not using defensives. Its a little weird. Maybe this are his better match wih his warrior.
imagine buffing bladestorm, imagine if monks gained movement speed and were unable to be cc during fists or dk during grabby hands, they have to make warrior as easy as possible for the people like asmongold
see the ladder men, with 2050 cr you are on the top 50 warriors on 2v2. Warrior cant climb on high brackets because they lack of dmg. If u cant beat a warrior as a caster you are playing bad.
Rage generation and bleed ticks speed up with haste, which adds up to a lot of extra damage, and it smooths out rage generation, auto attacking more often (but cooldowns come up more, and more skills go out), crit white swings also generate lots of rage, that and the obvious making your skills more likely to crit make crit good. Mastery is (as of last i checked) fine but lagging behind haste and crit.
You're still gonna get 2400+ no problem whatever stat you focus though
haste is great for dps but dps isnt normally the priority on a lot of classes in pvp, depends on class and spec tho
Not really, because your gonna spend a lot of times being kited by some classes, so your bleeds ticking isn't gonna kill someone, its when you can connect and get some big hits in. This is why Mastery is favorited in PvP. Auto-attack crit swings and such don't really matter unless you have uptime, this is why 20% is sufficient. Also, since crits are only 150% now, having a higher base damage (due to mastery and Vers) even tho they are, when you do crit it can feel like before the change. Ex. Say MS hits for 6k (small numbers for easier math). if you have 30% mastery and Vers, that's 6k x 60% = 9600 base damage. 9,600 x 1.5 = 14,400 crit. Now if your your only 30 Vers, 20 mastery, its 6k x 50% = 9k base. 9k x 1.5 = 13,500 crit. That's a loss of almost 1k damage which is about a loss of 7% damage per crit and a loss of about 11% in base damage. Obviously the numbers are bigger, but that means the discrepancies will be higher. Another note is your main bleed Deep Wounds will also tick for more since its directly related to your mastery and its debuff in turn increases Rends bleed ticks. When it comes to bleeds, haste and mastery are fairly similar in how much damage will be done. Haste being faster ticks = more damage verses Mastery being bigger ticks = more damage. Where they differ is when you can connect. Haste isn't going to increase the damage you do on hits, but Mastery will. A an extra weapon swing for white damage with haste isn't going to do as much as a bigger MS or Execute press does with Mastery.
Is arms better than fury to aim for 2k + or is fury a meme spec
I've reduced my haste by about 7% and bumped my mastery by a similar amount, helps alot with burst windows.
Yep, I'm currently sitting at 16.7% crit (in battle stance, 13.7 in d stance) , 20.3% haste, 30.2 Mastery, and 30.06 Vers. Once i get deep wounds on anyone, I'm doing 60% more damage at all times (minus they're defensive vers or any walls). It's nuts how much damage you can pump in strong burst windows.
Haste gives you slightly more uptime than the verse damage value because slows are off global faster so you catch people in small mistakes more often
what is song at 13:30 ?
:O what is the song at 2:40?
where do u get that boxes to equip alters???
conquest vendor last page
@@firevswater4 Lol thank you man
15:33 Illidan made that same mistake against Arthas.
My old Macro of Cancel Bladestorm doesn't work for me, can you help me?
Can you still kick in bladestorm if you can't calcel? And does kick frame hack cancel bladestorm?
What is this addon or idk what that blinks and shines when cd on spell ends?
any know the song from 13:00 ??
The song is DNMO & Wolfy Lights - Blinding
Hopefully you've found it sooner than a year later
@@Adeptus17 Dude!!!! You are a legend!!!!
the name of the second song ?
Literally cant find warrior changes on mmochamp or wowhead... can someone link what hes talking about?
annoyed that Arms warriors are killing him on his Rogue, he logs his Warrior and within the first 3 minutes says "This class is broken" - so predictable.
Yeah meanwhile his class is killing people in a kidney.
@@vantao9408if u die in a kidney then u just bad bro
@@Ozmaniac2kbad bait
Did something get buffed with arms in pvp? I'm not seeing any notes
How did you get gear? Wtf is conceits boxes can you buy with gold or off a mains conquest
Where can you buy conquest boxes now? Is that new from Tuesday patch?
From the conquest vendor. The toon you buy them on has to be 1400 in any que
@@kastor2601tha k you I totally missed this my alts will be happy
Does someone know if Pikaboo is using classic turn left/right or strafe left/right?
I know this is hella late but I don’t know a single decent wow player that uses “turn left/right” over strafing on left right. I don’t know 100% but the odds are heavily in favour of him not even having the turn keys bound.
I love listening to the frustration in his voice fighting the DH and H priest as warrior lol. It's how I feel every Solo Shuffle with Paladins, Hunters, and Mages.
Where does he get those boxes from giving conquest gear?
Hello, hope you get the message, the box is called obsidian smth crate, you can buy it near the training grounds for 375 conquest points, its cheap, but fully random, gl
@@НиколайШапошник-с4м Yeah found them yesterday, thank you!
Pika can play every single class and still clap
Almost like he plays wow for work 😂
Except feral… (I’m trying to get him to play feral)
@@Mopper101he did in his last video I’m sure
@@iliketospoonthings nah he has before it’s just been a while lol I still enjoy him playing every other class though 🤣
Sense when the game is hard? I'm 2600 with 5 classes 2900 with my 2 mains, and I'm playing in europe, plus the hardest pvp battle group in the world. Not the noobs bajgeera and pika plays 😂😂😂😂😂
you want haste because it makes your bleeds better and your auto attack swings faster which means more dmg
I changed from Warrior (both specs), to WW monk. WW monk can close gap better, and hits far harder, burst and sustained. Slightly less durable, but still Better.
I havent played since 10.1 dropped but the game had to take a MASSIVE leap in the other direction for this to be true.
cope noob, warrior is ten times easier then monk also, who would have thought
Interesting. I don't get scared of monks. Warriors always piss me off though
@@StrobeFireStudios monks burst and sustained is far better than warriors right now. Just a tiny bit less durable. I’m only partially geared with conquest gear at the moment and I crush fully geared warriors constantly. Some classes counter me okay though.
Warrior is some ass atm just q one shuffle if you dare, buffs kinda did nothing only nerfrd the burst.. might be good in actual 3s but 99% of us dont play 3s xD
So the trick is to raise the mastery instead of haste?
Idk how your shockwave hits this 10:54 but not the druid at 4:22 jaja
is rogue still playable tho? returning player here
Definitely is - he’s just messing around after balance updates
I laughed hard at the dh priest match xD, whenever pika is about to land a kill thy fly xD
Yo 15:30 clean bro
That last fight u had u played againts crusader,so glad u beat him 😂he's probs raging like fk now
Not him. Just a fan.
The WW in the video has 560k hp basically full blues. Prob low versa aswell.
can you share the macros please?
My man hoarding those damn whelp boxes lol
That much damage with MS is bulllllll
where post
I love that bunny anime poster on back
Did not see the overpower u said
I swear the second i feel like playing fury, arms gets a buff and vise versa...
SL season 2 Necro arms was the GOAT.
Happy birthday Pika
man djtraphouse was cracked
He's a scripter, I ran into him 3s lol
mans warrior xmog is the most horrendous thing ive ever seen
Google Boo from Dragonball :P
And here I am still level50
i mean..
Warr Dev: Assassination Rogue is dog shit, but let's buff Warrs.
Blizz Employees: DILLY DILLY
and they keeping buffing slam who nobody use xd
I love the content but don’t like the isolation of classes by saying they are good or not EVERY PATCH I’ve been playing enhance shaman for years and can clap most warriors with ease patches don’t mean nothing ! Choose your class and destroy! That’s the point of the game not telling everyone to play certain classes that takes out the originality
good vid as always pika
warrior is broken ? pika bro be serious mate ,try to play 3s or solo shuff against mage on higher rate and we will speak about how good warrior is again :DDDDDDDD
beep beep back on my main time
Hey mate love this play. stop hiding in the dark leave is rogue play warrior.❤
Ik that hunter lmao man botted all the way to 2100 in ss 😂😂
Arms , fire, Hpal
melee players in perma copium that their class isnt broken
Ranged players try not to cry about not being broken for 1 expansion , chalenge (impossible)
WoW in 2023 is being like 40min soloque wait time, next day -80% nerf, and after that +90% buff, pathetic game devs
❤
u kidding? BS does no single target dmg comapred to previous patch
Love the arms war content
You got a member in your guild resto sham named restful who is a pos. Just fyi. Sabotaging keys
Haste reduce your spell cds which is very important :)
This bladestorm doesnt have dmg. 😅
Imagine playing a bm hunter 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
There was no BM hunter in this video. What the fuck are you on about?
can't keep missing those interrupts my dude
Retail andies KEKW
Nice bunny girl senpai picture in the back
god demon hunter + holy priest ... what an annoying combo.
DK supposed to lose to warrior in 2S😂
Ban that viewer asking why no wrath xD
pummel = kick :D hahahhaha
baller mog
Arms Warriors have never not been top tier, I don’t think there has EVER been a patch in WoW where Arms wasn’t at least a high A tier spec.
Even those two times when Fury was a stronger spec in PvP, Arms was still just barely worse.
And it wasn’t really because it was worse, it’s just Fury is smooth brain and has so much self-sustain consistency.
could say the same about rogues in general. a top tier class since the game launched in pvp
so hawt
"Warrior is busted" Pika ur on high copium or sth. I love u and ur gameplay and shit but whenever I hear bullshit like this when you say warrior is good or bla bla bla makes me nutz. Arms warrior is currently so bad its insane. Either ur players on US are so bad against em or EU players are just so much better. I can give u plenty of examples from my stream how ppl counter us and how much MORE dmg they do then we are currently. Unhige nerfed should be reverse. Nerfs on exe procision/skullsplitter should be reversed. Or at least 1 of em. We dont have options what to play. The Hurricane talent makes u CANNOT cancelaura bladestorm to stop sheep/heal/stormbolt and its intended by blizzard. Just be4 some ppl say that im a 1.6k player im 9x glad and xr1 on EU. Not flexing just saying be4 getting roasted by some randoms. Playing since 2007-2008
He played 2s at 1600cr... warrior is some ass atm, and total misery in shuffle comming from a 2-2.1k hardstuck this season
@@Undertaker257 Why lie to yourselves? Last match is 2k against 2,1k
Already on to the next FOTM LOL 🤡
He's played rogue for years let him mix it up a little lmao
Is it actually broken tho or is he just hyping it up like always
@@gvstlytv not really broken actually. arms is quite weak in defensives. Hes now maaaaaaybe high B tier at max. Im 42%vers on my arms and i get literally nearly onetapped by mages and other metaclasses
@@semiramisubw4864 this ^
@@gvstlytv Warrior just gets kited and rekt
For someone who plays awc and wow professionally for a living and hearing the words "warrior and ww are busted" fist sentence of the video is some omega cap. Even putting them in the same sentence is a joke. WW is literally just a warrior playing the next expansion.
cope noob, warrior is for beginners and paraplegics
@@angrygun7826Wtf is frost dk then?
When was arms warrior not on the rise? Every single lobby has a moonkin and a warrior
Arms isn't good right now. There's just a lot of warrior mains.
Arms war is so bad, that’s why it’s the 2nd most popular melee spec 2400+ and the 6th most popular spec 2400+ in 3s internationally rn.
The copium from people is real rn.
And the whole “lots of warrior mains rn” argument isn’t really valid because everybody knows that people gravitate to strong specs for easy wins, hence why people are playing Boomy, SP, WW, and H Pal so much all of a sudden. And hence why so many people ran Ret last season.
If you don’t think the majority of people just play strong specs and not the specs they actually enjoy playing, you’re HUFFING copium.
@StoneislandYT copium is literally all you know. If you're losing to arms players you're just bad. Even magnusz isn't playing arms. It's awful.
Oh no Magnus went Fury, such a tragedy to be rank 4 warrior and play another spec on the same class, mean while rank 1 warrior currently is Toegap and guess what genius, he’s playing *DRUMROLL* arms!
Why people are playing too bad on this video??
I don't wanna sound rude but It's an AWC player vs 1800 ones. They can't keep up. And ofc it seems that warrior is broken.
@@zinamogg i think we play worst vs "the name", i mean if you play vs Juanito123 you gonna play better than vs "TmXXXX".
@@zinamoggI dont feel warrior its broken, this people on this video are not kiting and even not using defensives. Its a little weird. Maybe this are his better match wih his warrior.
@@estebanvento4897 At even rating? Yes. With that much difference? It doesn't even matter. They would get stomped no matter what xD
Doesn't matter how much you crit for brother, if you have no rage all the time.
imagine buffing bladestorm, imagine if monks gained movement speed and were unable to be cc during fists or dk during grabby hands, they have to make warrior as easy as possible for the people like asmongold
Coming from every ranged and caster atm
Blade storm does 120k dmg... over 5 seconds... big fucken deal man.. warriors r good but they can be fucked over hard.. stop being an ignoramus
zug zug tho haha, its so funny man we like to single target 1 guy and its funny because we reference uneducated people like us :D
@angrygun7826 to be a good warrior u don't zug zug... u gotta peel and cc and use burst with cc... it's hard to be a good warrior
see the ladder men, with 2050 cr you are on the top 50 warriors on 2v2. Warrior cant climb on high brackets because they lack of dmg. If u cant beat a warrior as a caster you are playing bad.