Don't improvise with scales, improvise with chords! - Advanced Bluegrass Guitar Lesson

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  • @Atla57
    @Atla57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I had a bluegrass guitar teacher who was a monster player, but his lessons always boiled down to 'play the chord and mess around with it'. Nice to get some starter ideas on just how to 'mess around with it'! Thanks!

    • @TypingHazard
      @TypingHazard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I had a guy try to teach me jazz by literally just scatting at me. "Just do this - doodily doot'n doot'n dAaAeA dat, doo DAT'n doot'n DA"

    • @greenatom
      @greenatom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TypingHazard I love that song!

    • @G_Demolished
      @G_Demolished 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TypingHazard I never trust a scat singer who doesn’t skit a lee bop de boo, but that’s just preference.

    • @Nuke_Skywalker
      @Nuke_Skywalker ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TypingHazard jesus i just found out why this sex practice is called "scat" ; it's a lot of doodie and doodoo.

    • @Steve-si8hx
      @Steve-si8hx ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greenatom 🤣

  • @bigoogie3737
    @bigoogie3737 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cant hit the like button enough for this lesson, thanks brother.

  • @1bluegrassbass
    @1bluegrassbass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have to comment again!!!
    I spent a little time learning the other triads working out of the D shape. My mind is blown !!!
    All the chords I have available and the improv vocabulary is a huge game changer for Me !!!
    If you lower the 3rd a half step ( making them minor) you can make minor cliches with a few little changes!
    Plus you have access to extended chords !
    I can’t express my gratitude to you, Marcel ! You’re the best !!!

    • @LessonsWithMarcel
      @LessonsWithMarcel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good job doing the hard work! Most folks won't take things those extra couple of steps. Love to hear it man, keep up the work!

    • @anonymeanonyme4047
      @anonymeanonyme4047 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good remark about making the chord minor by moving the third half a step

  • @Durtydave686
    @Durtydave686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bring on the theory! Great lesson!

  • @TypingHazard
    @TypingHazard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really love this kind of stuff, it feels way more freeing than playing with scales and hoping language emerges.

  • @ArchieRLib
    @ArchieRLib 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Marcel you are the goat. Miss our lessons, but this one really hits home for me. I still play like Maury Muehleisen but, thanks to you, with some grass. And now they like the archtop. Keep picking my friend. Great stuff.

  • @theburnerband6440
    @theburnerband6440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much man. You're a fantastic teacher.

  • @jasonduncan2942
    @jasonduncan2942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You just blew my mind a little bit. Such a simple concept but it sounds so great.

  • @danharney4389
    @danharney4389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best lesson ever!! Lightbulb city!! Thank you Marcel ☮️

  • @mabblers
    @mabblers 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best lesson I have heard on triads. Thanks

  • @superbroadcaster
    @superbroadcaster ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There's only one player I've heard of preferring scales to play successfully was Jerry Reed... lots of work but a true monster that's very hard to copy

  • @blindsteinofthemountain3831
    @blindsteinofthemountain3831 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I'm not going to show you anything that you can now find yourself!" Best advice yet. If you're looking for treasure, you're gonna have to dig, baby. Yeah! Great little lesson.

  • @richardkropman164
    @richardkropman164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so clever. I play sax and this is super applicable to improvising on a one note at a time instrument. Gracias.

  • @mattpropert1064
    @mattpropert1064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome lesson. I feel like this is a method that’s really going to stick in my brain. 🧠🤘

  • @skippymcadams8281
    @skippymcadams8281 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic explanation of a simple way to start branching out from triads. It is also a great way to start moving more comfortably through the intervals of a key. Knowing the 1,3,5 as home base makes 2,4,6 & 7 much more reachable. They are simply left or right of the 1,3,5. Thanks Marcel. Your explanation and teaching is one of your super powers. 🦸 I like the light hearted humor too. 🤩

  • @ronnance
    @ronnance ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant lesson!
    Love it

  • @theoldmann6608
    @theoldmann6608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have really appreciated your lessons and information. I might be too old to ever develop enough speed for bluegrass, but I think all of your videos are great. In watching one where you set out the G pentatonic and then added the 7th and the dirty third, I noticed that there were not a lot of frets left. I wonder if there might be some value on teaching about "the negative space". There is a lot less to remember if we just remember the frets that are kind of normally "no go" places. Not sure if this would work, but thought I would ask about its validity! Thanks for the many joyful lessons. I sent a small donation and hope every bit helps!

  • @chrisjones2832
    @chrisjones2832 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a powerful lesson. I’m impressed. I already know my triads, but putting the cliches with it… man, good stuff. I subbed

  • @crm1492
    @crm1492 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great explanation of advice I have heard a hundred times!!!

  • @williamclark9973
    @williamclark9973 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, Marcel. I’m a bebop guitarist and have been playing for decades and this really opened up some things for me. Terrific stuff!

  • @colecovington9804
    @colecovington9804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love lessons like this! I appreciate you teaching the theory that's what I want to learn!!!

  • @Mrsournotes
    @Mrsournotes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flatpicker Fight! I like both of you guys so protect those golden fingers.😎

  • @DougRiemer
    @DougRiemer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really appreciate this lesson. It is structured so clearly and leaves me with a goal to achieve. Thank You!

  • @503matelo
    @503matelo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm at the 6:20 mark and I feel as if I'm having an epiphany !! I'm pulling lines out of thin air and mixing them with kicks that I play all the time - longer more musical lines and licks are flowing. Cannot wait for the rest, but I'm going to noodle a little first up to this point then check out the rest. Thanks,.Marcel. You know how to teach !!

  • @danielmcpartlin6526
    @danielmcpartlin6526 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lesson dude. This makes a lot of sense. Seems more intuitive than the caged method of the fretboard

  • @concretecullen
    @concretecullen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @megarxidas17
    @megarxidas17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome lesson

  • @daningram3143
    @daningram3143 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always fantastic information from you brother!
    I really appreciate your expertise!

  • @guitardog
    @guitardog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice way to explain how the lines evolve from the chord and inversions!

  • @jimheath
    @jimheath 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brandon is the man!

  • @1bluegrassbass
    @1bluegrassbass 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is amazing!!!
    For Me , soloing using scales , I always seemed to get stuck with the same type of licks or breaks , but this really opens to fretboard for Me !!
    Genius !!!

  • @yugedelavega1168
    @yugedelavega1168 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice lesson❤

  • @lukaas0073
    @lukaas0073 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is gold mate - thanks

  • @fingal
    @fingal ปีที่แล้ว

    Much like Willaim Clark below me here...Bluegrass is not my bag though I really enjpoy listening to it. I play a lot of Gypsy Jazz and your lessons are nice way fro me to view things from a different angle. Subscribed. Thanks!

  • @JosephusDalrymple
    @JosephusDalrymple 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lesson, Marcel. Thank you.

  • @axcelson
    @axcelson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great one, Marcel!

  • @billycockrell2470
    @billycockrell2470 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's cool!

  • @pauloyo3648
    @pauloyo3648 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing 🙏🏼

  • @casey7783
    @casey7783 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If there were a PDF to accompany this lesson I would buy it.

  • @fannerguitarworks1024
    @fannerguitarworks1024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! That really helps a lot!!

  • @unsurprisingly
    @unsurprisingly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice lessons Marcel 👍🏼❤️ Marcel's wagon dragons baby.. 😍

  • @willspringsteen2389
    @willspringsteen2389 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greatly appreciated this lesson! Thanks

  • @mandohat
    @mandohat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THIS!

  • @DG5466
    @DG5466 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, so cool this lesson, I assume the cliche holds true for all triads on all strings?

  • @bentice9379
    @bentice9379 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great lesson! It looks like you start example 1 with a downstroke? The tab symbol looks like an upstroke.

  • @bluegrasspointofview5191
    @bluegrasspointofview5191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You didn't go to music school?
    This is GOLD. Bravo!

    • @LessonsWithMarcel
      @LessonsWithMarcel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Couldn't get in, so now I'm waiting for that honorary degree to roll in.

  • @jcsmith9518
    @jcsmith9518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff A! Awesome example and easy to grasp. Thanks.

  • @atakurt6055
    @atakurt6055 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dig the new glasses

  • @BlackHoleForge
    @BlackHoleForge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Marcel for showing us the doors. Now the only question is root, primary, or secondary.

  • @Videofiziert
    @Videofiziert 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clichés with Marcel ^^
    Good lesson, thanks

  • @cytwoelk4285
    @cytwoelk4285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, that's cool. Thanks

  • @503matelo
    @503matelo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find the crossover between bluegrass and gypsy jazz startling vis à vis playing out of the chord shapes / arpeggios.

    • @tedandersen977
      @tedandersen977 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, gypsy jazz is where one hears about "enclosures on triads" quite a bit . . .

  • @toushouchou
    @toushouchou 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you are the best Marcel.No doubt you will defeat brandon Johnson!!

  • @lorenvguitar614
    @lorenvguitar614 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for mentioning the scary music theory discussion.

  • @bwmohner
    @bwmohner 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super cool, thanks! I always struggle leading with arpeggios and chords tones (and now will with cliches) when the chords change quickly or there are a lot of chords in a song. (I don’t play bluegrass btw but love it) So I end up in scales. Any advice?

  • @greenfinmusic5142
    @greenfinmusic5142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just subscribed in self defense.
    Great channel, Marcel! Thanks for helping us all :)

  • @HankWright777
    @HankWright777 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great lesson. Don’t worry about Brandon you guys do different things. If you want a basic break to Old Grimes, Brandon. If you want OG to become ur own, next level, Marcel.

  • @MS-nj7id
    @MS-nj7id 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kind of late to the party but thought I’d try a question anyways. Are these cliche groups genre specific or useful for all types of music styles?

  • @patfarrell1832
    @patfarrell1832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ayyy this is what I'm talking bout'

    • @patfarrell1832
      @patfarrell1832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder! Have any killin kliches(see what I did there?) that are iconic to certain players? Like "here's a classic Lester line or check out this Mark O'Connor monster"

  • @jakemf1
    @jakemf1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A little off this topic and perhaps you answered this but where is a good place to start for beginners? Tunes to learn recordings to listen to breaks to learn? Love the videos thanks a ton

  • @ridethesong9030
    @ridethesong9030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it! The right lesson at the right time (for me) done right. Succinct and powerful. A “how to build licks” lesson that actually explains the “how”.

  • @polintr
    @polintr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard Tony Rice discovered the quantum negative fret realm. Or was it Doc Watson?

  • @mandolinsam7901
    @mandolinsam7901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are consistently awesome. Another home run! A note of constructive criticism, the first lick (out of 1st inversion) has a awkward fingering shift. It took me a bit to figure it out (scrunching the hand to play the Bb with a first finger), and it would've been nice to have had that noted. I get that this an advanced lesson, though. And, really, any criticism aside, amazing.

    • @LessonsWithMarcel
      @LessonsWithMarcel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man! And yeah... don't really love that first lick. I was just trying to use all of the cliches at once for teaching purposes. It's a little overboard, feel free to change it!

  • @johnsee7269
    @johnsee7269 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul McCartney brags about not being able to read music 🎵 🎶. I guess Paul, Eric, Carlos and others aren't watching this. Good for them and keep doing what you do for the rest of us! 🤘

  • @billholton5024
    @billholton5024 ปีที่แล้ว

    Extremely educational. I do have one question however, what, if any, accommodations do I need to make if I wish to play in a minor key?

  • @gumdocga
    @gumdocga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chief!!😂😂😂

  • @onofreneto5325
    @onofreneto5325 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Marcel , how do those cliches apply do minor chords? Thank you

  • @ryanbloom1738
    @ryanbloom1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll step in for Brandon he is from Minnesota a sweet heart of a guy. I'm from Minnesota too not to sweet though just a cranky old ex hockey player. A little blood and bluegrass?

  • @matthewpinckard479
    @matthewpinckard479 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Marcel, this might be a stupid question, and I feel like I know the answer but I would just use these same patterns over the IV, and V chords? And adjust the third for any minor chords in the song/key?

    • @LessonsWithMarcel
      @LessonsWithMarcel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, just line up the root with the new chord and adjust the chord tones for major or minor. That's a great place to start!

  • @matthewpejovicmusic1019
    @matthewpejovicmusic1019 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fiiiight lol love this video! Thanks marcel

  • @banjobones8075
    @banjobones8075 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So what is a 3rd, 5th, and a cliché? I've been playing bluegrass guitar for over 30 years and this has lost me

  • @louisfryzel4618
    @louisfryzel4618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only bluegrass teacher I ever had kicked me out after two lessons. Why? She said I HAD to play "Old Joe Clark" her way using her patterns of up and down picking. When I played it "my way" she said she couldn't teach me because I wouldn't listen (that is, blindly follow) her demands.

    • @gatoryak7332
      @gatoryak7332 ปีที่แล้ว

      She was right. Everybody should learn and practice the basics.If a student "knows better" than the instructor, then the instructor is wasting the student's time and money.

  • @c_rollins21
    @c_rollins21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I realize now that I've done this process for years, but under the guise of "playing out of the chord shape" lol also, is that an accutron!??

    • @LessonsWithMarcel
      @LessonsWithMarcel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Accutron allows me to open my third eye and access Tony vision; then I can see into the other side where the ancient secrets of the fretboard are knowable and the people feast on cigarettes and coffee.

    • @c_rollins21
      @c_rollins21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LessonsWithMarcel 😂😂 I'll have what you're having lol but it looks great man, I need to get one for myself one day. From one Tony nerd to another, may the accutron grant you the power to grunt and grass with the precisional timing of a timeless piece.

  • @nickswinehart3343
    @nickswinehart3343 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven't watched this video yet, looking forward to it, but has anyone seen 'Flatpicking Up the Neck' by Jeff Troxel? Would you recommend it?

    • @LessonsWithMarcel
      @LessonsWithMarcel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've only read the book? I actually didn't know there was a video that went with it. It's got a lot of great floating ideas.

    • @nickswinehart3343
      @nickswinehart3343 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LessonsWithMarcel Oh sorry, I meant I haven't watched YOUR video yet. Only mentioned Jeff's book because it seems similar. I went ahead and got it since it seems like it has lots of practice exercises, and that's what I need :-) Thanks man!

  • @banjobones8075
    @banjobones8075 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I guess that why I learned from watching others pick. This is like trying to understand algebra 🤣

  • @markhusbands2037
    @markhusbands2037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    GBDGBD baby

  • @Steve-si8hx
    @Steve-si8hx ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the filthy third better myself

  • @trevormekelburg3773
    @trevormekelburg3773 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:59 there’s a hole in the wall.

  • @CowboyBobDuke
    @CowboyBobDuke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the word "cliche"?

    • @LessonsWithMarcel
      @LessonsWithMarcel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cliche is a word used in music theory/improv discussion that doesn't have to have negative connotations. It's basically a synonym for "common". Look up "line cliches" in jazz theory as an example of the word being used in this context.

    • @CowboyBobDuke
      @CowboyBobDuke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LessonsWithMarcel thanks for the explanation. I've never heard it discussed in bluegrass flatpicking circles before. Now you've opened a new rabbit hole for me to go down and explore. I'm so happy and grateful for you showing the way.

  • @resilientrecoveryministries
    @resilientrecoveryministries 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn. Shots fired. A waffle house fight?!!

  • @supermotorcat
    @supermotorcat ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome lesson